Re: Can I modify the DFSG (and not derive from)?

2003-08-31 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le ven 29/08/2003 à 22:01, Mathieu Roy a écrit :
 The DFSG is free enough to be useful -- you still cannot just simply
 modify it and redistribute it under the same name, do you?

So what?
The LPPL has the same restriction and is considered free by Debian, GNU
and OSI.
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Re: Can I modify the DFSG (and not derive from)?

2003-08-29 Thread David Schleef
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 10:01:40PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
 The DFSG is free enough to be useful -- you still cannot just simply
 modify it and redistribute it under the same name, do you? Or is that
 exactly what mean build on? Am I able to publish a DFSG named DFSG
 (if it's just because Debian may be (is?) a trademark, it's not
 related to the license)? 

 May I for instance take a copy of Debian and redistribute it by _only_ 
 changing the DFSG text, adding a line saying that the GFDL qualified
 documentation as free documentation?

Yes.  As long as you follow the modification rules of the OPL:

  1. The modified version must be labeled as such.
  2. The person making the modifications must be identified and the
 modifications dated.
  3. Acknowledgement of the original author and publisher if applicable
 must be retained according to normal academic citation practices.
  4. The location of the original unmodified document must be identified.
  5. The original author's (or authors') name(s) may not be used to assert
 or imply endorsement of the resulting document without the original
 author's (or authors') permission.

As Debian/SPI are the authors of the document, I think you would have
to label the modified version very clearly that it is not the opinion
of Debian or SPI in order to comply with the license.

IMO, I think you would have a very difficult time convincing anyone
that you are complying with the license without changing the title
of the document.

  Go away, troll.



dave...



Re: Can I modify the DFSG (and not derive from)?

2003-08-29 Thread MJ Ray

On 2003-08-29 21:01:40 +0100 Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
May I for instance take a copy of Debian and redistribute it by 
_only_ 
changing the DFSG text, adding a line saying that the GFDL qualified

documentation as free documentation?


Probably (modulo any trademark guff), but if you attempt to pass off 
your bastard version as ours, or our work as yours, then we will come 
after you for sure for defamation, misrepresentation, whatever.  Also, 
don't expect us to follow you or wish you well if you do that.