Re: Revamping the debian-legal website (was Re: removing the debian-legal website stuff?

2005-05-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 23 May 2005 19:20:42 -0400 Nathanael Nerode wrote:

 Frank Lichtenfeld wrote:
 Since this hasn't really worked out I propose to delete this stuff
 again until someone comes up with a better idea how to better present
 the work of debian-legal.
 
 It would really, really, really help if things like the
 currently-unofficial  debian-legal FAQ, some of the various FAQs about
 the GFDL, etc., were  integrated into the debian-legal website.

Yes, I think that MJ Ray's proposed text could be a starting point.

 Information about the freeness  tests we use, etc., is the sort of
 thing which belongs there. Also, I  really like the existing essay on
 the three categories of software, and the  comments about how our list
 differs from the FSF and OSI lists; I do *not*  want to lose that.
[...]
 Remember to get appropriate copyright licenses from everyone whose
 FAQs you  integrate and to specifically put the page under those
 licenses (not just the  default OPI for the website), with appropriate
 copyright notices.  We should  attempt to follow our own recommended
 best practices.  (Which, incidentally,  is another thing to add to the
 website: best practices in copyright and  licensing maintenance...)

Fully agreed!

 
 Oh -- what license would debian-legal like for its own web pages?  I
 think the  main choice to make is copyleft (meaning GPL) or highly
 permissive (in which  case I don't care which one, but it would be
 good to settle on one  preferred one).

My preferred non-copyleft license is the Expat (a.k.a MIT) license:
http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt

 I suggest highly permissive,
 because this site is going to  contain memes which we want to spread,
 and allowing unlimited reuse would  IMHO be good for that.

It's probably a good idea.

 
 ...
 OK, after making all those suggestions, it's time to put my money
 where my  mouth is.  I volunteer to do this work if nobody else wants
 to (or indeed to  do it with someone else if they do want to).  I'll
 even put it on high  priority; I think I could get quite a lot done
 very quickly, since the  information exists, but just has to be
 integrated.

Great!
This is really appreciated, indeed.  :-)


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Revamping the debian-legal website (was Re: removing the debian-legal website stuff?

2005-05-23 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Frank Lichtenfeld wrote:
Since this hasn't really worked out I propose to delete this stuff again
until someone comes up with a better idea how to better present the
work of debian-legal.

It would really, really, really help if things like the currently-unofficial 
debian-legal FAQ, some of the various FAQs about the GFDL, etc., were 
integrated into the debian-legal website.  Information about the freeness 
tests we use, etc., is the sort of thing which belongs there. Also, I 
really like the existing essay on the three categories of software, and the 
comments about how our list differs from the FSF and OSI lists; I do *not* 
want to lose that.

If you delete anything, *just* delete the summary list, and update the rest of 
the page to reflect that.   I think the official debian-legal website should 
form more of an About debian-legal, what we do, and how we do it site.  
Maybe we can put license summaries in later, but I think they're not the most 
important thing there.

Remember to get appropriate copyright licenses from everyone whose FAQs you 
integrate and to specifically put the page under those licenses (not just the 
default OPI for the website), with appropriate copyright notices.  We should 
attempt to follow our own recommended best practices.  (Which, incidentally, 
is another thing to add to the website: best practices in copyright and 
licensing maintenance...)

Oh -- what license would debian-legal like for its own web pages?  I think the 
main choice to make is copyleft (meaning GPL) or highly permissive (in which 
case I don't care which one, but it would be good to settle on one 
preferred one).  I suggest highly permissive, because this site is going to 
contain memes which we want to spread, and allowing unlimited reuse would 
IMHO be good for that.

...
OK, after making all those suggestions, it's time to put my money where my 
mouth is.  I volunteer to do this work if nobody else wants to (or indeed to 
do it with someone else if they do want to).  I'll even put it on high 
priority; I think I could get quite a lot done very quickly, since the 
information exists, but just has to be integrated.  However, I would need 
website access of some sort in order to do that, which I don't have.

--Nathanael Nerode


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