Re: ipv6calc: IP address assignments as source code
I wish mailing lists had moderation like Slashdot. -1 Flamebait. On 6/3/06, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The C header files containing the address assignments in the tarball are not source code in the GPL sense, ie. 'the preferred form of the work for making modifications'. This means that we're technically violating the GPL distributing the ipv6calc package in its current form. Get real, it's just data. Probably not even copyrightable. Unless somebody tells me I'm wrong somewhere, I'm about to file a You are wrong just about everywhere. Looks like you have been reading weirdos on debian-legal too long. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrewdonnellan.com http://ajdlinux.blogspot.com Jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG - hkp://subkeys.pgp.net 0x5D4C0C58 --- Member of Linux Australia - http://linux.org.au Debian user - http://debian.org Get free rewards - http://ezyrewards.com/?id=23484 OpenNIC user - http://www.opennic.unrated.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipv6calc: IP address assignments as source code
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:49:50PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: The ipv6calc upstream tarball database directory contains a README saying: Because of unknown license issues, the database files aren't included in source tarball (cleanup by make distclean), but will be retrieved on make Thus my understanding is that 2. We're also of course violating the Social Contract by distributing software without full source. Yes. Independently of licenses issues, it is not acceptable to download data from the net when building a package. Packages should be buildable from the source CD-ROMs. Cheers, -- Bill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine a large red swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipv6calc: IP address assignments as source code
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The C header files containing the address assignments in the tarball are not source code in the GPL sense, ie. 'the preferred form of the work for making modifications'. This means that we're technically violating the GPL distributing the ipv6calc package in its current form. Get real, it's just data. Probably not even copyrightable. Unless somebody tells me I'm wrong somewhere, I'm about to file a You are wrong just about everywhere. Looks like you have been reading weirdos on debian-legal too long. -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipv6calc: IP address assignments as source code
I can't answer most of these questions. But you will probably be helped by the fact that databases, as mere collections of facts, are usually *not copyrightable*, certainly not in the US. So these documents are most likely in the public domain. I believe this is the way to go: unless there appears to be a significant creative element, assume that they're in the public domain. Of course, the evil European sui generis Database Right is a problem. How are we approaching that? Are we dealing with it like we deal with patents (ignore it unless someone starts suing)? It's clearly just as evil, immoral, and unjustifiable, if not more so. (Note that the RFC license is NOT a free software license; it doesn't permit creating modified, renamed copies. We have been trying to get them to fix this, but they seem nearly as intransigent as the FSF.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipv6calc: IP address assignments as source code
Niko Tyni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For IANA, the data actually is already in Debian main, in the doc-iana package. The e-mail correspondence found in the doc-iana debian/copyright file [3] indicates that the rfc-copyright-story document [4] applies to all IANA documents. This looks DFSG-free to me, but I'm not sure if the information is still current. ... [4] http://www.faqs.org/rfc/rfc-editor/rfc-copyright-story That's not current, the latest version is available from: http://www.rfc-editor.org/copyright.html And it is far from DFSG-free, for several reasons. Sadly, the IETF seems less than responsive on fixing this issue. /Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
