Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

[Walter Landry]

Martin Hanson  writes:
> I have posted this bug report
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 that has been
> rejected by the maintainer.
>
> Maybe I have misunderstood the issue completely, but I do have some
> experience with legal issues and AFAIK, there IS a problem here.
>
> I am posting this to the mailing list in order to get "more eyes on
> the issue".

This is equivalent to providing a default search engine in Firefox or
Chromium.  If the software required the use of these external services
in order to provide basic functionality, then you might have an argument
that the software should go into contrib.  But that is not the case.
Especially for this bug report, there are many options, packaged by
Debian, for running your own DNS server.  Those will be selected by
default if you set up your network correctly.  So I am not seeing the
problem here.

Cheers,
Walter Landry

Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

[Francesco Poli]

On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 04:28:07 +0200 Martin Hanson wrote:

> I have posted this bug report
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806
> that has been rejected by the maintainer.
[...]

While I see a possible privacy issue in using the Google public DNS
servers, I am under the impression that doing so does not require to
accept any Terms of Service.
At least, I failed to spot any hint about that in the
[instructions page](https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using)

So, as others have already pointed out, this does not seem to be a DFSG
issue.

Nonetheless, I would be much happier, if packages in Debian did not
rely on Google (or any other private company's) services as default,
since I think this is not a recommendable strategy.


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Re: systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

[jonathon]

On 04/30/2018 02:28 AM, Martin Hanson wrote:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806

> Maybe I have misunderstood the issue completely, but I do have some 
> experience with legal issues and AFAIK, there IS a problem here.

Effective 25 May 2018 it _might_ be a GDPR violation, but that is
probably the closest law (^1) that applies. Furthermore, it would be
Google, not Debian that is in violation.

If you claiming that the _Oracle v Google_ Appellate Court ruling
applies, that is about a different set of circumstances. Furthermore,
that case hasn't been settled, and the previous court decision isn't
necessarily rendered null and void,, because the first time through was
about a different set of legal circumstances, than the second time through.

###

As a practical matter, are there any globally available DNS servers,
whose formal Terms and Conditions of Service are DFSG compliant?

^1: The Philippine privacy statute, might apply, but it is restricted to
The Philippines, and, furthermore, is usually enforced on "not a friend
of the state" status. Besides which, The Philippines can't afford to
piss off a major American corporation, whilst most European countries
can almost afford to do so.

I am not a lawyer.
This is not legal advice.

jonathon

systemd-resolved violates The Debian Free Software Guidelines

[Martin Hanson]

I have posted this bug report 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=896806 that has been rejected 
by the maintainer.

Maybe I have misunderstood the issue completely, but I do have some experience 
with legal issues and AFAIK, there IS a problem here.

I am posting this to the mailing list in order to get "more eyes on the issue".

Kind regards