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From: Andrew Suffield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Andrew Suffield
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 2:13 PM
To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SableVM/Kaffe pissing contest (Was: GPL and Copyright Law)
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 11:18:30PM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
Andrew Suffield writes:
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 08:14:32PM -0500, Michael Poole wrote:
The rest of your post is either intentionally or incompetently
misleading, since Java's idea of binary compatibility means that a
compiled Eclipse package does not contain any copyrightable
portion of
the class libraries that provide declarations to the compiler.
That
is what determines whether the binary package is a derivative work
of
the class library package.
That's not entirely true. The binary package is a derivative work of
the class library package if:
(a) it contains a literal creative part of the class library,
or a derivative of such a part
or
(b) it contains a literal creative part of the java source or a
derivative of such (pretty much a given or the compiler wouldn't
be much use), and the java source is a derivative of the class
library
Does (b) refer to the use of features that are specific to one
implementation (or at least one license)? Or do you mean something
broader?
It means anything that a court would consider derivation. The stuff
about using features is just a convinient rule of thumb.
About the only thing I've seen that will do (a) is static linking in
an ELF object, or anything comparable. (b) is the one that we
normally
deal with in Debian.
[Always remember: derivation is a transitive relation. If a is
derived
from b, and b is derived from c, then a is derived from c]
This is not true. The parts that make A a derivative of B may be
disjoint from the parts that make B a derivative of C. (When those
works are virally licensed, the license is transitive.)
It's still true, you've just introduced an aliasing error. Set the
resolution to 'lines of code', not 'packages'.
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