Bug#471263: Generated changes and patch systems

2008-05-28 Thread Neil Williams
Oops, sent to the wrong bug report.

On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 11:45 +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 18:06 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
  Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 08:40 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
  
   Lots of other packages do this -- one of mine off the top of my head is
   xml-security-c.
  
   Nope. No mention of aclocal.m4 in debian/rules for that package,
   just /usr/share/misc/config.guess and config.sub.
  
  Uh, it's the same problem.  Surely the generalization is obvious?
 
 It's not quite the same problem because aclocal.m4 is regenerated in the
 clean rule itself because changing it causes ./configure --recheck to
 recreate the (modified) file. So instead of copying it around, it has to
 be deleted - merely because a patch system is in use. Seems crazy to me.
 
   I need to patch configure and configure.ac in this package, that means
   that aclocal.m4 is constantly being changed and reverted. It shouldn't
   matter - it really should not.
  
  Right, so delete it in the clean rule.
 
 OK. It's a bit like collateral damage - need a patch to configure,
 patching causes configure --recheck which modifies aclocal.m4 so delete
 aclocal.m4. Hmmm. I don't like it but I'll do it anyway.
 
   I see no purpose in lintian (or dpkg come to that) testing for changes
   in aclocal.m4 - IMHO it should simply be exempt from this check.
  
  Absolutely not -- you're introducing unexpected changes to the packaging
  diff file, 
 
 Well my point is that the change is entirely expected (because the
 patch modifies a file that is involved in generating the changes) - the
 changes are merely a consequence of the patch. It feels wrong to have to
 add a clean rule for aclocal.m4 as a direct result of patching
 configure.ac when aclocal.m4 was not a problem before the patch. 
 
 Anyway, the problem of the tmpl/* files is far more resistant.
 
   I really don't want to do all that for the tmpl/* files as well - I
   don't see the need, copying dozens of files into foo.safe or
   foo.upstream and then moving them back?
  
   Just delete them then.
  
   ??? That simply does not work. The problem is that running gtk-doc not
   only requires tmpl/*.sgml files to exist but it *then modifies them*!
  
  This is extremely unusual.  Are you *sure* that it does an inplace edit of
  the files during the build process? 
 
 $ ls libgpewidget-0.115.orig/doc/tmpl/ -1
 colordialog.sgml
 color-slider.sgml
 dirbrowser.sgml
 errorbox.sgml
 gpeclockface.sgml
 gpehelp.sgml
 gpeiconlistitem.sgml
 gpe-iconlist.sgml
 gpeiconlistview.sgml
 gpetimesel.sgml
 gpewindowlist.sgml
 gtkdatecombo.sgml
 gtksimplemenu.sgml
 infoprint.sgml
 init.sgml
 libgpewidget-unused.sgml
 picturebutton.sgml
 pixmaps.sgml
 popup_menu.sgml
 popup.sgml
 question.sgml
 smallbox.sgml
 spacing.sgml
 stylus.sgml
 translabel.sgml
 tray.sgml
 windows.sgml
 
 From the build log:
  gtkdoc-mkdb --module=libgpewidget --source-dir=.. --output-format=xml
 --sgml-mode --output-format=xml --tmpl-dir=tmpl
 
 Now running lintian...
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/color-slider.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/colordialog.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/colorrenderer.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/gpeclockface.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/gpedialog.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/gpehelp.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/gtkdatecombo.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/gtksimplemenu.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/libgpewidget-unused.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/link-warning.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/pixmaps.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/smallbox.sgml
 W: libgpewidget source: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff 
 doc/tmpl/spacing.sgml
 Finished running lintian.
 
 13 out of 27 files modified by gtk-doc.
 
 Copy those files back into doc/tmpl/ from the upstream source and they
 are still modified at the next build.
 
 Add a rm -f doc/tmpl/*.sgml to clean:: and the build fails: No rule to
 make doc/tmp/*.sgml
 
 So, yes, --enable-gtkdoc is modifying files included upstream and which
 are essential to the build process.
 
 If I drop --enable-gtkdoc I get different contents in the
 libgpewidget-doc package.
 
   This is almost never what build
  systems do; instead, they generate files from other files using templating
  systems.  They may ship the results of that operation and then redo it
  during the build, in which case you need to delete the 

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Bug#483384: lintian: False positive on native-package-with-dash-version with 3.0 (quilt) source packages

2008-05-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Package: lintian
Version: 1.23.49
Severity: normal

If you generate a 3.0 (quilt) source package with
$ dpkg-source --format=3.0 (quilt) -b mypackagedir
and you analyze with lintian the generated source package you'll end up
with something like this:
W: quilt source: native-package-with-dash-version

But the source package is definitely not native:
$ cat ../quilt_0.46-4.1.dsc 
Format: 3.0 (quilt)
Source: quilt
Binary: quilt
Architecture: all
Version: 0.46-4.1
Maintainer: Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uploaders: Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon Horman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Standards-Version: 3.6.1.0
Build-Depends: cdbs (= 0.4.23-1.1), debhelper (= 4.1.0)
Build-Depends-Indep: gettext, hevea, lynx, diffstat
Checksums-Sha1: 
 9344c1289f262053beb0196645b41ea5d9cda597 403984 quilt_0.46.orig.tar.gz
 384fa4d069913b20fe50699dc77da9f8f644b741 38224 quilt_0.46-4.1.debian.tar.gz
Checksums-Sha256: 
 47bf030565bb462840db694acc183273455714028c74974c5b3a3bd4ad29ad89 403984 
quilt_0.46.orig.tar.gz
 e52b6fc53a588957e71d7245516fd591e3e5efd610f6589698546467da2d9f63 38224 
quilt_0.46-4.1.debian.tar.gz
Files: 
 4508546d1ed0257ef7c128b6121b7208 403984 quilt_0.46.orig.tar.gz
 713ef9174ad7269af4b88f143f193a9d 38224 quilt_0.46-4.1.debian.tar.gz


You probably check for the presence of a .diff.gz file. This check should be 
restricted
to the 1.0 format.

With newer source package format, you get 3.0 (native) for a native package
and 3.0 (quilt) can never be native. You can check for the presence of the
..debian.tar.* file though.

I'm not sure how you should handle 3.x (git) and 3.x (bzr). I'd tend to handle 
them
as native packages but some people are interested to use them even for 
packaging of
third-party software (which is a bad idea IMO).

Cheers,

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  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 
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Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages lintian depends on:
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ii  man-db  2.5.2-1  on-line manual pager
ii  perl [libdigest-sha 5.10.0-10Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 

lintian recommends no packages.

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Re: Lintian Maints happy with Subversion?

2008-05-28 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 06:46:52PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Since lintian is one of the few remaining pieces of original code (as
  opposed to non-native packages) that I co-maintain and that is not yet
  maintained in a distributed VCS I justed wanted to ask what the other
  co-maintainers think about switching the VCS?
 
  Would you prefer remaining with SVN?
  If no, which other VCS would you prefer?
 
  My choice would be to switch to git, but hg or bzr
  would also be ok if there is a majority for them.
 
 *heh*.  I sent my other message before seeing this.  Yeah, I'd be very
 happy to move to Git.

I think everybody had plenty time to object. I will go ahead with this
then.

Does anybody still have the old CVS repo around. IIRC we did not import
that when we created the SVN repo. Jeroen maybe?

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Bug#482869: lintian: no-md5sums-control-file false positive on package containing only conffiles

2008-05-28 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:30:54PM -0400, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 I have a package that contains only conffiles and directories.  (It works
 with another package that can, among other things, be used as a network
 server, by providing scripts and a directory hierarchy to make that easy.)
[...]
 Naturally enough, dh_md5sums does not produce a checksums file for this
 package, which makes lintian object:
 
 $ lintian -I monotone_0.40-3_amd64.changes
 I: monotone-server: no-md5sums-control-file
 
 Please consider having this check verify that there are regular files in
 the package that are not conffiles.

Hmm, I wonder if it wouldn't be better for dh_md5sums to generate an
empty md5sums file in this case to make it clear that it checked but
found no files that needed to be listed.

Otherwise every other program that tries to use the information later
will need to check again. OTOH they probably need to check anyway since
an empty md5sums file also could be an error.

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Re: [checks/scripts] script_is_evil_and_wrong() and bashisms update

2008-05-28 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 06:32:42AM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 03:15 +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
  On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:51:03AM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
   On Fri, May 16, 2008 23:58, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
 [...]
Have you generated an account at http://svn.wolffelaar.nl/ ?
   
   I've tried, a few times, but it appears that either I'm struggling with
   the IQ test or the form's broken (obviously I'd plump for the latter :-)
   
   I pinged jvw via e-mail a couple of weeks ago but didn't get a response as
   yet.
  
  Ok.
  
  Maybe that code should be moved to Alioth at some point...
 
 I did notice that there was an Alioth project for lintian (although it
 doesn't seem to have been used; the SVN repo is still at revision 0).

I've now requested the creation of a git repo on Alioth now and plan to fill
it with content in the next days. Feel free to make a Request to Join
via the Alioth interface.

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Bug#482869: lintian: no-md5sums-control-file false positive on package containing only conffiles

2008-05-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Russ Allbery wrote:

 We do already have code that's supposed to check whether an md5sums
 control file is needed.  It apparently isn't working right.  (Naively,
 I would have thought that files in /etc would still have md5sums in the
 package?  I'm probably just confused.)

 dpkg already includes md5sums for conffiles, so it's redundant to put
 those in the md5sums file (though dh_md5sums can do it if asked via -x).

Oh, okay, that makes perfect sense.  Thanks.

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