Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Markus Koschany]

Hi,

Am 13.02.2016 um 09:23 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> Hi,
> 
> On Freitag, 12. Februar 2016, Markus Koschany wrote:
[...]
>> For now it should be clear that Wheezy LTS will be supported
>> until the end of May 2018.
> 
> Sadly, if you only read the "Debian 6.0 Long Term Support reaching end-of-
> life" announcement, this is *not clear*, it just says "May 2018", despite we 
> having discussed this well in time… oh well.
> 
> I have fixed wiki.d.o/LTS now to be clear.
> 
> I hope the announcement send at the start of Wheezy LTS (there will be one, 
> right?) will be clear on this too.

Yes, I hope so too. There will be another announcement when the security
support of Wheezy is handed over to the LTS team and then it makes sense
to mention the end-of-support date 31th of May 2018 again. Thanks for
updating the wiki pages. I have mentioned the start of Wheezy LTS, 26th
of April, now and added the information that the LTS team will assist
the security team in the time between.

Regards,

Markus




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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Moritz Mühlenhoff]

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 08:19:02PM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote:
> Am 11.02.2016 um 19:09 schrieb Miroslav Skoric:
> > On 02/10/2016 10:17 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> so, are you prepared for valentine's day massacre?
> >>
> > 
> > Actually not: It is Wheezy (7.9) now, and I predict its valentine's day
> > massacre to approach in few years. Btw, when is the end of life for
> > Wheezy LTS?
> 
> May 2018. More information about Debian LTS can be found here:

In the light of the recent confusion about what "February 2016" means
you should really communicate a fixed date upfront.

Cheers,
Moritz

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Markus Koschany]

[ I am subscribed to debian-lts. No need to CC me ]

Am 11.02.2016 um 20:36 schrieb Moritz Mühlenhoff:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 08:19:02PM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote:
>> Am 11.02.2016 um 19:09 schrieb Miroslav Skoric:
>>> On 02/10/2016 10:17 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>>>

 so, are you prepared for valentine's day massacre?

>>>
>>> Actually not: It is Wheezy (7.9) now, and I predict its valentine's day
>>> massacre to approach in few years. Btw, when is the end of life for
>>> Wheezy LTS?
>>
>> May 2018. More information about Debian LTS can be found here:
> 
> In the light of the recent confusion about what "February 2016" means
> you should really communicate a fixed date upfront.
> 

Since there were no objections against ending Squeeze LTS at the end of
February 2016, May 2018 implies the same for Wheezy LTS. At least that
would be consistent. As soon as the current LTS cycle ends all
information on wiki.debian.org will be updated to reflect this.

Regards,

Markus




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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 02/10/2016 10:17 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:



so, are you prepared for valentine's day massacre?



Actually not: It is Wheezy (7.9) now, and I predict its valentine's day 
massacre to approach in few years. Btw, when is the end of life for 
Wheezy LTS?



or have you tried something like memory upgrade?

I notice slowdown when logging to lxde after upgrading to jessie,
however I think most of problems aren't related to HW performance, I
remember ~18 tears ago when installing dnsmasq locally speed up my
computer much.



Well, it's an 1999-year machine, 224 meg RAM, Celeron 400 MHz. I do not 
plan to waste $$$ for an upgrade. As long as it works I'll keep it as 
is. Interestingly, while that box was running Squeeze LTS, I found xfce 
to be the fastest GUI (compared to lxde and gnome). Now with Wheezy, 
Gnome is the speediest. It's slow but works.

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Holger Levsen]

Hi,

On Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2016, Markus Koschany wrote:
> > In the light of the recent confusion about what "February 2016" means
> > you should really communicate a fixed date upfront.
> Since there were no objections against ending Squeeze LTS at the end of
> February 2016, May 2018 implies the same for Wheezy LTS. At least that
> would be consistent. As soon as the current LTS cycle ends all
> information on wiki.debian.org will be updated to reflect this.

Moritz is right, we should't say "wheezy LTS will end in May 2018." now, but 
instead explicitly say "wheezy LTS will end of May 31 2018."

And the announcement hasn't been sent yet…!


cheers,
Holger


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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Markus Koschany]

Am 12.02.2016 um 01:08 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> Hi,
> 
> On Donnerstag, 11. Februar 2016, Markus Koschany wrote:
>>> In the light of the recent confusion about what "February 2016" means
>>> you should really communicate a fixed date upfront.
>> Since there were no objections against ending Squeeze LTS at the end of
>> February 2016, May 2018 implies the same for Wheezy LTS. At least that
>> would be consistent. As soon as the current LTS cycle ends all
>> information on wiki.debian.org will be updated to reflect this.
> 
> Moritz is right, we should't say "wheezy LTS will end in May 2018." now, but 
> instead explicitly say "wheezy LTS will end of May 31 2018."
> 
> And the announcement hasn't been sent yet…!

As I said this should and will be corrected as part of the next wiki
update. For now it should be clear that Wheezy LTS will be supported
until the end of May 2018.

Regards,

Markus




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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Santiago Ruano Rincón]

El 08/02/16 a las 23:02, Santiago Ruano Rincón escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> I've committed to https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/publicity/announcements.git/
> the first draft for the announcement about the Squeeze LTS EOF. Please,
> take a look on it.
> 
> I haven't proposed a release date yet. Next Sunday, 14th February should
> be Ok?

The publicity team ask to schedule the announce for next Friday. Does
anyone disagree?

Santiago

P.S. Plain version on the commit repo:
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/publicity/announcements.git/plain/en/2016/201602XX.wml


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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Chris Lamb]

> > I haven't proposed a release date yet. Next Sunday, 14th February should
> > be Ok?
> 
> The publicity team ask to schedule the announce for next Friday. Does
> anyone disagree?

Not here. Just want to say thank you all for working on the announcement.


Regards,

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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

On 02/09/2016 05:04 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

End of Life on Valentines Day?

So, Valentines Day means death to many lifes?

A Valentines Day Massacre?

(Someone had to say it...)


On 09.02.16 17:05, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
To prevent the 'end of life' I upgraded my old comp to wheezy some 
time ago, despite being told to throw the old box to the junk-yard. 
It is awfully slw now. I wonder if it is in its 'afterlife'  :-)


so, are you prepared for valentine's day massacre?

or have you tried something like memory upgrade?

I notice slowdown when logging to lxde after upgrading to jessie,
however I think most of problems aren't related to HW performance, 
I remember ~18 tears ago when installing dnsmasq locally speed up my

computer much.

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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Holger Levsen]

Hi,

On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> My personal preference is also at the end of the month. But I believe that
> Ben sort of officially declared end of support for the squeeze kernel
> already.

Ben has "just" closed a lot of linux bugs which only affected 2.6.32 with a 
note saying

"Debian 6.0 Long Term Support has now ended, and the 'linux-2.6' source
package will no longer be updated.  This bug is being closed on the
assumption that it does not affect the kernel versions in newer Debian
releases.

If you can still reproduce this bug in a newer release, please reopen
the bug report and reassign it to 'src:linux' and the affected version
of the package. [...]"


That said, *I don't believe* Ben would be against fixing really critical bugs 
in linux-2.6 should one pop up in, say, the next two weeks…

Looking more at the wider future, I think it would be great if we could 
support one LTS version until the next oldstable becomes oldstable-lts.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[santiagorr]

Hi,

El 09/02/16 a las 10:33, Holger Levsen escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > My personal preference is also at the end of the month.

Mine too.

> > But I believe that
> > Ben sort of officially declared end of support for the squeeze kernel
> > already.
> 
> Ben has "just" closed a lot of linux bugs which only affected 2.6.32 with a 
> note saying
> 
> "Debian 6.0 Long Term Support has now ended, and the 'linux-2.6' source
> package will no longer be updated.  This bug is being closed on the
> assumption that it does not affect the kernel versions in newer Debian
> releases.
> 
> If you can still reproduce this bug in a newer release, please reopen
> the bug report and reassign it to 'src:linux' and the affected version
> of the package. [...]"
> 

I've started to draft the announce to be consistent with this. But I
think there is a problem with the imprecise date (February 2016) on the
wiki. Some of us, and more important, some users may thought it was at
the end of the month.

> 
> Looking more at the wider future, I think it would be great if we could 
> support one LTS version until the next oldstable becomes oldstable-lts.

For wheezy-lts, it would mean until stretch's release date + 1 year, and
not wheezy's release date + 5 years: 4th May 2018. Isn't it?

Cheers,

Santiago

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Jan Ingvoldstad]

On 02/09/2016 08:51 AM, Guido Günther wrote:


Regarding the date do you propose we end support on the 14th sharp or on
2015-02-29? I'd vote for the later to give people some more time to
upgrade and us to prepare at least the answers for the missing bits of
[1] (so we can have an updated debian-security-support for Wheezy with
the LTS scope soonish).


If I may weigh in:

When support has ended, people will always come and ask for special 
favors in the following days/weeks.


Being nice to these people is fine by me, but there is no need to change 
the end-of-support date for that.


Keeping the end-of-support date at February 6 (yep!) makes it clear that 
any effort made after last Saturday is purely a matter of extraordinary 
courtesy.


That way, you are free to say at any later time "sorry, we no longer 
have spare capacity to handle Squeeze security updates".


Additionally, I think it's fine to handle any updates to Squeeze on a 
consultancy basis, but then not via the official mirrors.

--
Cheers,
Jan

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Andreas Ziegler]

Hi,

> Additionally, I think it's fine to handle any updates to Squeeze on a
> consultancy basis, but then not via the official mirrors.

i agree, otherwise people wouldn't upgrade to wheezy at all because
"they will keep fixing the big things in squeeze" - i observe similar
behavior with typo3-upstream users...

Regards

Andreas

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Antoine Beaupré]

On 2016-02-09 08:51:20, Holger Levsen wrote:
> There's one irritation though, which I could not fix yet: if support for 
> Squeeze LTS ends now or on the last day of February, and support for Wheezy 
> will be taken over from the security team on April 26th, what will the LTS 
> team do in the maintime? It reads as if the LTS team would do nothing til 
> then.

That was something I was wondering about as well.

One idea I was thinking of was to collaborate with the secteam to merge
all the work we have done on squeeze that still has to be forward-ported
into wheezy.

If squeeze is not supported anymore and wheezy is supported by the
secteam, the least we could do is to make sure wheezy is up to date to
squeeze, since we're going to have to do that work eventually anyways.

How does that sound?

A.
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its needs, but also to its aspirations.  It's quite certainly here to
stay.
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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Jan Ingvoldstad]

On 02/09/2016 02:51 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:


There's one irritation though, which I could not fix yet: if support for
Squeeze LTS ends now or on the last day of February, and support for Wheezy
will be taken over from the security team on April 26th, what will the LTS
team do in the maintime? It reads as if the LTS team would do nothing til
then.


Vacation?

The team members have deserved that much, at least!

I suppose a more PC turn of phrase would be something like:

"After the end of Squeeze LTS support, the LTS team will prepare for 
start of Wheezy LTS support April 26, 2016."

--
Cheers,
Jan

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Holger Levsen]

Hi,

On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Then I think we should not miss the opportunity to ask for more funding for
> the LTS effort, so I'd suggest adding a paragraph linking to
> https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding - patch (#3) for that attached.

rather obviously, contributing work is also great, patch attached.


cheers,
Holger
From 4912fa51641bd45a2cb099849d5cb87ffebdb74a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Holger Levsen 
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 16:29:56 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] explain that contributing work is also great

---
 en/2016/201602XX.wml | 3 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/en/2016/201602XX.wml b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
index 51c1c1b..7744981 100644
--- a/en/2016/201602XX.wml
+++ b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
@@ -25,7 +25,8 @@ it possible to extend the life of previous stable releases, and who have
 made this LTS a success.
 
 If you rely on Debian LTS, please consider
-https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding;>funding the efforts
+https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding;>funding the efforts
+or contributing with patches or testing.
 
 About Debian
 
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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Holger Levsen]

Hi Markus,

On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016, Markus Koschany wrote:
> I have added a new paragraph to
> https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Development#Switching_to_the_next_LTS_release

cool, thanks!


> Who should be contacted and what should be done to ensure that the
> infrastructure works as expected when the switch occurs?

the Debian archive team (aka: the ftp masters).


cheers,
Holger


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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Jan Ingvoldstad]

On 02/09/2016 12:20 PM, Johnathon Tinsley wrote:


I'd definitely agree with this. I, as a user, expected a formal notice
of end of support, rather than a quiet whimper into support end. Finding
out LTS ended officially 3 days ago after-the-fact is.. unpleasant.

The wiki still states "Debian 6 “Squeeze” until February 2016", which
means I expected a fixed date to be announced soon, rather than just
hearing "eh, done now" sentiments on a mailing list.


Whoops, I always thought that the date was Februar 6, so that was what 
we've used in our internal communication, so we've only got a very small 
amount of software left running on the "mercy" level.


Given the phrase used on the wiki, I agree, support should be extended 
through the end of February.

--
Cheers,
Jan

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Holger Levsen]

Hi Santiago,

On Montag, 8. Februar 2016, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
> I've committed to
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/publicity/announcements.git/ the first
> draft for the announcement about the Squeeze LTS EOF. Please, take a look
> on it.

thanks for your work on this!

I've attached some patches (#1+#2) fixing minor wording and grammar issues.

Then I think we should not miss the opportunity to ask for more funding for 
the LTS effort, so I'd suggest adding a paragraph linking to 
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding - patch (#3) for that attached.

There's one irritation though, which I could not fix yet: if support for 
Squeeze LTS ends now or on the last day of February, and support for Wheezy 
will be taken over from the security team on April 26th, what will the LTS 
team do in the maintime? It reads as if the LTS team would do nothing til 
then.

> I haven't proposed a release date yet. Next Sunday, 14th February should
> be Ok?

I'd be more in favor of February 29th, patch (#4) attached.


cheers,
Holger
From 75c007cd0e6766749bbb08657e75d3119869b5fb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Holger Levsen 
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:36:35 +0100
Subject: [PATCH 1/4] remove one 'also', add comma

---
 en/2016/201602XX.wml | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/en/2016/201602XX.wml b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
index 84c8ff2..07076ba 100644
--- a/en/2016/201602XX.wml
+++ b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
@@ -12,8 +12,8 @@ release on February 6, 2011.
 
 There will be no further security support for Debian 6.0.
 
-The LTS Team will now focus on Debian 7 (wheezy) which is the
-current oldstable release. The LTS team will also take over support from the
+The LTS Team will now focus on Debian 7 (wheezy), which is the
+current oldstable release. The LTS team will take over support from the
 Security Team on April 26, 2016.
 
 Debian 7 will also receive Long Term Support for five years after its
-- 
1.9.1

From f4a2166d6f370acc452e4f9fd42e70edbd438cf6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Holger Levsen 
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:41:17 +0100
Subject: [PATCH 2/4] improve structure, thank sponsors more explicitly

---
 en/2016/201602XX.wml | 7 ---
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/en/2016/201602XX.wml b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
index 07076ba..6e0ec55 100644
--- a/en/2016/201602XX.wml
+++ b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
@@ -19,9 +19,10 @@ Security Team on April 26, 2016.
 Debian 7 will also receive Long Term Support for five years after its
 initial release with support ending in May 2018.
 
-Debian and its LTS Team would like to thank all contributing users,
-developers -and sponsors who are making it possible to extend the life
-of previous stable -releases, and who have made this LTS a success.
+Debian and its LTS Team would like to thank all contributing users and
+developers. We would especially like to thank the sponsors who have made
+it possible to extend the life of previous stable releases, and who have
+made this LTS a success.
 
 About Debian
 
-- 
1.9.1

From e7fab2b5d5a972828cae28519b77affed59cd96f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Holger Levsen 
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:46:14 +0100
Subject: [PATCH 3/4] add paragraph linking to wiki.d.o/LTS/Funding

---
 en/2016/201602XX.wml | 3 +++
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)

diff --git a/en/2016/201602XX.wml b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
index 6e0ec55..f821087 100644
--- a/en/2016/201602XX.wml
+++ b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
@@ -24,6 +24,9 @@ developers. We would especially like to thank the sponsors who have made
 it possible to extend the life of previous stable releases, and who have
 made this LTS a success.
 
+If you rely on Debian LTS, please consider
+https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Funding;>funding the efforts
+
 About Debian
 
 
-- 
1.9.1

From 5e4cd7b99b749ff9d3aad19e1b21f28cb387cd46 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Holger Levsen 
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 14:48:47 +0100
Subject: [PATCH 4/4] announce EOL for 20160229

---
 en/2016/201602XX.wml | 6 +++---
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/en/2016/201602XX.wml b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
index f821087..51c1c1b 100644
--- a/en/2016/201602XX.wml
+++ b/en/2016/201602XX.wml
@@ -6,9 +6,9 @@
 2016-02-DD
 #use wml::debian::news
 
-The Debian Long Term Support (LTS) Team has announced that Debian 6.0
-(squeeze) support has reached end-of-life, five years after its initial
-release on February 6, 2011.
+The Debian Long Term Support (LTS) Team hereby announces that Debian 6.0
+(squeeze) support will reach its end-of-life on February 29, 2016,
+five years after its initial release on February 6, 2011.
 
 There will be no further security support for Debian 6.0.
 
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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Joost van Baal-Ilić]

Op Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 11:47:49AM +0100 schreef santiag...@riseup.net:
> El 09/02/16 a las 10:33, Holger Levsen escribió:
> > On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > My personal preference is also at the end of the month.
> 
> Mine too.

Mine too.  (Is this a vote?  ;-)

Bye,

Joost - Debian LTS user at https://www.debian.org/users/edu/tilburguniversity



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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Johnathon Tinsley]

But I believe that
Ben sort of officially declared end of support for the squeeze kernel
already.

[...]
"Debian 6.0 Long Term Support has now ended, and the 'linux-2.6' source
package will no longer be updated.  This bug is being closed on the
assumption that it does not affect the kernel versions in newer Debian
releases.
[...]"



I've started to draft the announce to be consistent with this. But I
think there is a problem with the imprecise date (February 2016) on the
wiki. Some of us, and more important, some users may thought it was at
the end of the month.



I'd definitely agree with this. I, as a user, expected a formal notice 
of end of support, rather than a quiet whimper into support end. Finding 
out LTS ended officially 3 days ago after-the-fact is.. unpleasant.


The wiki still states "Debian 6 “Squeeze” until February 2016", which 
means I expected a fixed date to be announced soon, rather than just 
hearing "eh, done now" sentiments on a mailing list.


Regards,
Johnathon

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[qwer]

On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 11:02:41PM +0100, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
> I've committed to https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/publicity/announcements.git/
> the first draft for the announcement about the Squeeze LTS EOF. Please,
> take a look on it.

Why?
 
> I haven't proposed a release date yet. Next Sunday, 14th February should
> be Ok?

NO.

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Miroslav Skoric]

On 02/09/2016 05:04 AM, Bret Busby wrote:



End of Life on Valentines Day?

So, Valentines Day means death to many lifes?

A Valentines Day Massacre?

(Someone had to say it...)

:)



To prevent the 'end of life' I upgraded my old comp to wheezy some time 
ago, despite being told to throw the old box to the junk-yard. It is 
awfully slw now. I wonder if it is in its 'afterlife'  :-)


Misko

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Christopher Samuel]

On 09/02/16 09:02, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:

> I haven't proposed a release date yet. Next Sunday, 14th February should
> be Ok?

How long after the announcement will Squeeze be supported for?

I must admit to not having been aware of a deadline for it being phased
out until now, though that's probably just because I've not had the time
to pay close enough attention.

It's probably good to give people a grace period, even if it's only for
a few weeks, rather than suddenly cutting them off without notice.

All the best,
Chris (just another grateful Squeeze user)
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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Bret Busby]

On 09/02/2016, Santiago Ruano Rincón  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've committed to
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/publicity/announcements.git/
> the first draft for the announcement about the Squeeze LTS EOF. Please,
> take a look on it.
>
> I haven't proposed a release date yet. Next Sunday, 14th February should
> be Ok?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Santiago
>

End of Life on Valentines Day?

So, Valentines Day means death to many lifes?

A Valentines Day Massacre?

(Someone had to say it...)

:)

-- 

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Armadale
West Australia

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 you'll know what the answer means."
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Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Guido Günther]

Hi,
On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 11:02:41PM +0100, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've committed to https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/publicity/announcements.git/
> the first draft for the announcement about the Squeeze LTS EOF. Please,
> take a look on it.

Reads great! 

> 
> I haven't proposed a release date yet. Next Sunday, 14th February should
> be Ok?

Regarding the date do you propose we end support on the 14th sharp or on
2015-02-29? I'd vote for the later to give people some more time to
upgrade and us to prepare at least the answers for the missing bits of
[1] (so we can have an updated debian-security-support for Wheezy with
the LTS scope soonish).

Cheers,
 -- Guido

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2016/01/msg00106.html

Re: Preparing to announce Squeeze LTS end-of-life

[Christopher Samuel]

On 09/02/16 15:22, Christopher Samuel wrote:

> I must admit to not having been aware of a deadline for it being phased
> out until now, though that's probably just because I've not had the time
> to pay close enough attention.

Apparently I completely failed to either find, read or remember:

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

which gives the timeline for support.

My apologies!

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