Re: Sending LTS changes to debian-lts-changes

2016-05-03 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 02 May 2016, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> > Send them first only to debian-lts-changes@ as it might be that the
> > tracker gets them that way too.
> 
> Now I already set both mail addresses. Should I change that to only
> debian-lts-changes@?
> Note that security.d.o doesn't sent mail to @packages.qa.d.o.

Let's see how it behaves first. After further thinking, I believe it
should be good.  The new tracker does not follow debian-lts-changes AFAIK,
only the old one does for the news feed displayed on the package page.

> > (That said dak needs a general cleanup to send mail to the new tracker
> > directly and stop relying on @packages.qa.debian.org, as nobody did
> > anything in response to
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/12/msg1.html)
> 
> Should I just add dispatch@tracker.d.o to all suites where we sent out
> announcement mails for?
> 
> And in that case stop sending mail to @packages.qa.d.o?
> 
> And it looks like we also sometimes send mail to
> @packages.d.o.  So many different choices :)

Yes, I would like to simplify all this... and to some extent, I already
put the required infrastructure in place for it.

The package tracker needs a single copy of the mail arriving to dispatch@
but that copy can come from:
- a mail to @packages.d.o
- a direct mail to dispatch@tracker.d.o
- a mail to @packages.qa.debian.org (kept working for now until
  all services migrated)

So basically the rules are: when you send a mail to @packages.d.o, you
don't need to send a copy to dispatch@tracker.d.o. For all other (public)
mails, you should send a copy to dispatch@tracker.d.o. And you should no
longer send anything to @packages.qa.d.o.

Ideally, we would always use @packages.d.o as the single contact point.
(Except that it does not work very well for new packages as the list of
alias on that service is static. So in the long term I would like the
tracker to handle that email service directly.)

Cheers,
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer

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Re: Sending LTS changes to debian-lts-changes

2016-05-02 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 08:57:40PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog writes:
> > On Mon, 02 May 2016, Markus Koschany wrote:
> >> thank you for fixing the mirror bug. Moritz Mühlenhoff informed us on
> >> IRC that accepted mails for LTS uploads are still sent to dak AT
> >> security.debian.org. Can you filter those mails so that they are sent to
> >> debian-lts-changes instead and if possible also to
> >> dispatch _AT_ tracker.debian.org as Raphael had suggested? [1]
> >
> > Send them first only to debian-lts-changes@ as it might be that the
> > tracker gets them that way too.
> 
> Now I already set both mail addresses. Should I change that to only
> debian-lts-changes@?
> 
> Note that security.d.o doesn't sent mail to @packages.qa.d.o.

For wheezy-lts we don't need the changes mails send to d...@security.debian.org,
anyone in the security team interested in those can simply subscribe to
debian-lts-changes

Cheers,
Moritz



Re: Sending LTS changes to debian-lts-changes

2016-05-02 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> On Mon, 02 May 2016, Markus Koschany wrote:
>> thank you for fixing the mirror bug. Moritz Mühlenhoff informed us on
>> IRC that accepted mails for LTS uploads are still sent to dak AT
>> security.debian.org. Can you filter those mails so that they are sent to
>> debian-lts-changes instead and if possible also to
>> dispatch _AT_ tracker.debian.org as Raphael had suggested? [1]
>
> Send them first only to debian-lts-changes@ as it might be that the
> tracker gets them that way too.

Now I already set both mail addresses. Should I change that to only
debian-lts-changes@?

Note that security.d.o doesn't sent mail to @packages.qa.d.o.

> (That said dak needs a general cleanup to send mail to the new tracker
> directly and stop relying on @packages.qa.debian.org, as nobody did
> anything in response to
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/12/msg1.html)

Should I just add dispatch@tracker.d.o to all suites where we sent out
announcement mails for?

And in that case stop sending mail to @packages.qa.d.o?

And it looks like we also sometimes send mail to
@packages.d.o.  So many different choices :)

Ansgar



Re: Sending LTS changes to debian-lts-changes

2016-05-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi,

On Mon, 02 May 2016, Markus Koschany wrote:
> thank you for fixing the mirror bug. Moritz Mühlenhoff informed us on
> IRC that accepted mails for LTS uploads are still sent to dak AT
> security.debian.org. Can you filter those mails so that they are sent to
> debian-lts-changes instead and if possible also to
> dispatch _AT_ tracker.debian.org as Raphael had suggested? [1]

Send them first only to debian-lts-changes@ as it might be that the
tracker gets them that way too.

(That said dak needs a general cleanup to send mail to the new tracker
directly and stop relying on @packages.qa.debian.org, as nobody did
anything in response to
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/12/msg1.html)

Cheers,
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer

Support Debian LTS: http://www.freexian.com/services/debian-lts.html
Learn to master Debian: http://debian-handbook.info/get/



Sending LTS changes to debian-lts-changes

2016-05-02 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi Ansgar,

thank you for fixing the mirror bug. Moritz Mühlenhoff informed us on
IRC that accepted mails for LTS uploads are still sent to dak AT
security.debian.org. Can you filter those mails so that they are sent to
debian-lts-changes instead and if possible also to
dispatch _AT_ tracker.debian.org as Raphael had suggested? [1]

Cheers,

Markus


[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2016/04/msg00140.html



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