Re: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Am 01.03.2016 um 13:16 schrieb Bonno Bloksma (list account): > Hi, > > On 2016-02-29 20:27, Paul Gevers wrote: >>> I know, but that is not what I meant. I meant (and wrote), upgrade via >>> wheezy. >> >> I think that (what you wrote ealier) would be a sensible recommendation to >> make. >> >> We're only keeping Wheezy around for system setups that were established >> while Wheezy was stable, we've tried to bring all Squeeze systems via Wheezy >> and then immediately to Jessie. > > So the announcement should probably read something like: > We recommend that you upgrade your systems to at least Debian 7 "Wheezy" and > then to the current Debian 8 stable release "Jessie" if you can. > Instructions to upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy can be found at > > https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using Hi, I have already sent the announcement to debian-lts-announce. > Also the info at the above link is rather sparse. "Recommendations for > upgrading from Squeeze LTS to Wheezy LTS" > Should there not also be a link to the old Squeeze to Wheezy upgrade > instructions? > There were several gotcha's if I remember. I have just added the links to the official release notes for Wheezy and the issues to be aware of. Please feel free to add more recommendations to the Wiki, if you think they may be useful for others. Regards, Markus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
RE: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Hi, On 2016-02-29 20:27, Paul Gevers wrote: >> I know, but that is not what I meant. I meant (and wrote), upgrade via >> wheezy. > > I think that (what you wrote ealier) would be a sensible recommendation to > make. > > We're only keeping Wheezy around for system setups that were established > while Wheezy was stable, we've tried to bring all Squeeze systems via Wheezy > and then immediately to Jessie. So the announcement should probably read something like: We recommend that you upgrade your systems to at least Debian 7 "Wheezy" and then to the current Debian 8 stable release "Jessie" if you can. Instructions to upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy can be found at https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using Also the info at the above link is rather sparse. "Recommendations for upgrading from Squeeze LTS to Wheezy LTS" Should there not also be a link to the old Squeeze to Wheezy upgrade instructions? There were several gotcha's if I remember. Bonno Bloksma
Re: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Hi Markus, On 29-02-16 21:56, Markus Koschany wrote: > If it helps I could remove the "Debian 7 Wheezy" part and write > "we recommend that you upgrade your systems". That fully resolves the issue I was having with the text. Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Am 29.02.2016 um 20:27 schrieb Paul Gevers: > Hi Markus, > > On 29-02-16 20:25, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> you only can upgrade to wheezy directly. upgrade accross versions is not >> supported. > > I know, but that is not what I meant. I meant (and wrote), upgrade via > wheezy. Hi Paul, the target audience for this announcement are Squeeze LTS users who might have missed the recent Debian news [1] or who are otherwise unaware that Squeeze LTS ends after five years. Debian only supports upgrades to consecutive releases. Upgrading to Wheezy is the right choice, no matter if you decide to upgrade to the current stable release again. If it helps I could remove the "Debian 7 Wheezy" part and write "we recommend that you upgrade your systems". The important thing is, and I hope this announcement makes it sufficiently clear, Squeeze LTS will be no longer supported from now on, please upgrade at your earliest convenience. Regards, Markus [1] https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160212 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Hi Markus, On 29-02-16 20:25, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > you only can upgrade to wheezy directly. upgrade accross versions is not > supported. I know, but that is not what I meant. I meant (and wrote), upgrade via wheezy. Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
On 29-02-16 12:35, Markus Koschany wrote: We recommend that you upgrade your systems to Debian 7 "Wheezy". On 29.02.16 19:59, Paul Gevers wrote: /me wonders, do we really recommend that? I would say we recommend our users to upgrade to the current stable (via Wheezy), no? And wheezy-lts is there for those that can't or won't upgrade now from wheezy to jessie (maybe coming from squeeze, true). But if you are upgrading, why not do it "right" if you can? you only can upgrade to wheezy directly. upgrade accross versions is not supported. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Linux IS user friendly, it's just selective who its friends are...
Re: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Hi Markus, On 29-02-16 12:35, Markus Koschany wrote: > We recommend that you upgrade your systems to Debian 7 "Wheezy". /me wonders, do we really recommend that? I would say we recommend our users to upgrade to the current stable (via Wheezy), no? And wheezy-lts is there for those that can't or won't upgrade now from wheezy to jessie (maybe coming from squeeze, true). But if you are upgrading, why not do it "right" if you can? Paul signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Am 28.02.2016 um 18:12 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> Hi Markus,
>
> On Sonntag, 28. Februar 2016, Markus Koschany wrote:
>> I have updated https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using to prepare for the
>> switch to Wheezy LTS. What do you think about sending an EOL
>> announcement to debian-lts-announce on March 1st? We could simply reuse
>> the official NEWS post [1] and would probably reach those people who
>> normally don't read news on debian.org.
>
> seems like a great idea to me. Can you do it? ;-)
>
Yes, I can. :) Here is my proposed draft.
Subject: [SECURITY] Debian 6 Squeeze has reached end-of-life
The Debian Long Term Support (LTS) Team hereby announces that Debian 6
("Squeeze") support has reached its end-of-life on February 29, 2016,
five years after its initial release on February 6, 2011.
There will be no further security support for Debian 6.0.
The LTS Team will prepare the transition to Debian 7 ("wheezy"), which
is the current oldstable release. The LTS team will take over support
from the Security Team on April 26, 2016.
Debian 7 will also receive Long Term Support for five years after its
initial release with support ending on May 31, 2018.
We recommend that you upgrade your systems to Debian 7 "Wheezy".
Instructions can be found at
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using
Debian and its LTS Team would like to thank all contributing users,
developers and sponsors who are making it possible to extend the life of
previous stable releases, and who have made this LTS a success.
If you rely on Debian LTS, please consider joining the team, providing
patches, testing or funding the efforts. More information can be found at
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/
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Re: Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Hi Markus, On Sonntag, 28. Februar 2016, Markus Koschany wrote: > I have updated https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using to prepare for the > switch to Wheezy LTS. What do you think about sending an EOL > announcement to debian-lts-announce on March 1st? We could simply reuse > the official NEWS post [1] and would probably reach those people who > normally don't read news on debian.org. seems like a great idea to me. Can you do it? ;-) cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Wiki update LTS/Using and EOL announcement
Hi all, I have updated https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using to prepare for the switch to Wheezy LTS. What do you think about sending an EOL announcement to debian-lts-announce on March 1st? We could simply reuse the official NEWS post [1] and would probably reach those people who normally don't read news on debian.org. Regards, Markus [1] https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160212 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
