Re: Should we drop GUI from Cluster3 Debian package to make the remaining free code fit for Debian main (Was: License of cluster3 becomes unspecified since you are linking to a non-existing URL)

2020-02-06 Thread Michael Crusoe
Summary: cluster3 can not enter Debian main until the src/command.c file is
relicensed by Stanford

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:00 AM Andreas Tille  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> since more than two years we did not heard any news regarding the
> license of X11/gui.c which is as far as I can see the only code inside
> the cluster3 code that does not feature a free license.  Since I
> consider the non-GUI code as valuable for Debian users (thanks to the
> authors who considered a free license) I propose hereby to remove
>X11/gui.c
> from the source package and move cluster3 to Debian main.


So if only the GUI code descends from Michael Eisen's code, then we can
move the package out of "non-free", yes.

However, the non-free license is still present in the src/command.c and
that file is required for /usr/bin/cluster3 (and the perl and python
modules which we aren't even building yet)



>   Those who
> consider the GUI an important part of the program are kindly invited to
>
>   1. Keep on contacting the author to consider a free license
>   2. Create a separate package cluster3-gui residing in non-free
>
> Kind regards
>
>  Andreas.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 06:01:37PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > Hello Michiel,
> >
> > I'm writing you again[1] about the license of Cluster 3.0.
> > Unfortunately nothing has happended since then since I did not found any
> > contact information.
> >
> > As license statement you are refering to
> >
> > http://rana.lbl.gov/EisenSoftwareSource.htm
> >
> > The fact that this URL does not exist any more is a good example why
> > using URLs instead of an explicit license text is not a good idea.  The
> > current situation is that your software does not have any license at all
> > any more which would even make it non-distributable even in the non-free
> > area of the Debian mirror.
> >
> > I really appreciate that you agreed to a free license and I absolutely
> > share your assumption that Michael Eisen would probably agree as well.
> > Unfortunately I have no idea how to reach a person who could clarify the
> > license.  In any case it would be a really good start if you would use a
> > free license for your own code and add the original license text to the
> > downloadable file.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >   Andreas.
> >
> > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-med/2016/02/msg0.html
> >
> > --
> > http://fam-tille.de
> >
> >
>
> --
> http://fam-tille.de
>
>

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Michael R. Crusoe


Should we drop GUI from Cluster3 Debian package to make the remaining free code fit for Debian main (Was: License of cluster3 becomes unspecified since you are linking to a non-existing URL)

2020-02-06 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi,

since more than two years we did not heard any news regarding the
license of X11/gui.c which is as far as I can see the only code inside
the cluster3 code that does not feature a free license.  Since I
consider the non-GUI code as valuable for Debian users (thanks to the
authors who considered a free license) I propose hereby to remove
   X11/gui.c
from the source package and move cluster3 to Debian main.  Those who
consider the GUI an important part of the program are kindly invited to

  1. Keep on contacting the author to consider a free license
  2. Create a separate package cluster3-gui residing in non-free

Kind regards

 Andreas.


On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 06:01:37PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hello Michiel,
> 
> I'm writing you again[1] about the license of Cluster 3.0.
> Unfortunately nothing has happended since then since I did not found any
> contact information.
> 
> As license statement you are refering to
> 
> http://rana.lbl.gov/EisenSoftwareSource.htm
> 
> The fact that this URL does not exist any more is a good example why
> using URLs instead of an explicit license text is not a good idea.  The
> current situation is that your software does not have any license at all
> any more which would even make it non-distributable even in the non-free
> area of the Debian mirror.
> 
> I really appreciate that you agreed to a free license and I absolutely
> share your assumption that Michael Eisen would probably agree as well.
> Unfortunately I have no idea how to reach a person who could clarify the
> license.  In any case it would be a really good start if you would use a
> free license for your own code and add the original license text to the
> downloadable file.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>   Andreas.
> 
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-med/2016/02/msg0.html
> 
> -- 
> http://fam-tille.de
> 
> 

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