Re: RFS: kplayer

2007-06-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:47:39AM -0500, Richard A. Johnson wrote:
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package kplayer.
 
 * Package name:   kplayer
   Version:0.6.2
   Upstream Author:kiriuja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * URL:http://kplayer.sourceforge.net
 * License:GPL
   Section:kde
 
 It builds these binary packages:
 kplayer- KDE multimedia player frontend for MPlayer

  what is the improvement or things that kmplayer wouldn't do ?


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Re: About peless

2007-06-04 Thread Damyan Ivanov
[back to list, again]

-=| Giorgio Pioda, Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:33:35 +0200 |=-
 I've cleaned up the peless package:
 
 http://web.ticino.com/gfwp/debian/peless-1.125/peless_1.125-1.dsc
 
 *generated from a tar.gz to have md5sums correspondence
 *watch file corrected and tested
 *changelog cleaned up (only 1 entry, initial release (Closes...)

Good. Thanks.

I have three more little things to mention :)

* The .desktop file is invalid, try checking it with
  desktop-file-validate. As a result, peless is nowhere in the gnome
menu. There is also two warnings

* The debian/copyright should point to
http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1681
as download location, since one currently used results in something
else being downloaded, perhaps some unreleased version.

* The debian/menu entry has no icon. Can you add one? Note that
menufiles use images in xpm format. It would be best if the .xpm is
generated in build time from .png to avoid mismatches if the icon
changes in the future.

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Re: RFS: kplayer

2007-06-04 Thread Richard A. Johnson
On Monday 04 June 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
| On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:47:39AM -0500, Richard A. Johnson wrote:
|  Dear mentors,
| 
|  I am looking for a sponsor for my package kplayer.
| 
|  * Package name: kplayer
|Version:  0.6.2
|Upstream Author:  kiriuja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  * URL:  http://kplayer.sourceforge.net
|  * License:  GPL
|Section:  kde
| 
|  It builds these binary packages:
|  kplayer- KDE multimedia player frontend for MPlayer
|
|   what is the improvement or things that kmplayer wouldn't do ?

KMplayer is nothing more than a simple KPart plugin for Konqueror that 
imitates or mimics the realplayer, media player, quicktime, and flash 
plugins. KPlayer is a stand alone front end to MPlayer that offers WAY more 
functionality than KMPlayer. Plus KPlayer has the KIO-Slave connections that 
allow different types of connections to your media. You can use KPlayer to 
connect via SSH (fish:/) or HTTP and even secure HTTP with a password. Simply 
KMPlayer is a Konqui plugin, KPlayer is a full fledged media player/front 
end.

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notifying the user about an incompatible upgrade

2007-06-04 Thread Eric Cooper
What is the best way to notify the user or administrator when a new
version of a package changes the format of a configuration file in a
backwards-incompatible way?

These options occurred to me:
  Try to upgrade the user's old configuration automatically.
  Document it in NEWS.
  Print a warning on stderr.
  Use a debconf note.
  Send an email to root or some other system user.

I'd appreciate any advice.

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RFS: Xnee (updated package) Second try

2007-06-04 Thread Jeremiah Foster

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 2.06-1
of my package xnee.

It builds these binary packages:
xnee   - an X evironment emulator and recorder

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xnee
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xnee/xnee_2.06-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
 Jeremiah Cushman Foster


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Re: About md5sums of debian sources

2007-06-04 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 12:26:22PM -0400, Simon wrote:

 screwing that up.  I don't see why the build system isn't just
 extended to handle bz2 files, it's one of the things that bugs me
 about debian packaging.

That's happening - support for bzip2 compressed tarballs is in dpkg-dev
in etch so it can now be enabled in dak when someone gets round to it.
There's a policy of making sure that source packages can be unpacked on
at least the current stable release so until etch was released it wasn't
going to be enabled in the archive.

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Re: RFS: kplayer

2007-06-04 Thread Raphael Geissert

This package is already available at www.debian-multimedia.org

I would say there's a reason why it isn't in the official
repositories. Christian is a DD so he doesn't need any sponsor ;)

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Re: About md5sums of debian sources

2007-06-04 Thread Simon

On 6/2/07, Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Because on some architectures, there are not 2 GHz dual-core or
quad-core CPUs available.  Making them take double or triple the time
for a 10% gain space is probably not acceptable.


It's not about saving space, it's about handling upstream release
archives with a minimum of modifications.  I agree about the
performance concerns, and gzip has a very high performance to
compression rate ratio, but handling upstream files unmodified saves
developers time, and avoids the confusion about the origin of a
tarball.



Re: notifying the user about an incompatible upgrade

2007-06-04 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Eric Cooper wrote:
 What is the best way to notify the user or administrator when a new
 version of a package changes the format of a configuration file in a
 backwards-incompatible way?
 
 These options occurred to me:
   Try to upgrade the user's old configuration automatically.
   Document it in NEWS.
   Print a warning on stderr.
   Use a debconf note.
   Send an email to root or some other system user.

I don't think there is a generic answer. The answer would depend
on the kind of service provided by the package.

For example, if the package provides an important service and
automatic upgradation of the old config files is likely to break,
then it may even be a good idea to have the new package with a new
name. Then you could keep both packages maintained for a while with a
clear indication to the users that one is deprecated.

Regards,

Kapil.
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Re: About md5sums of debian sources

2007-06-04 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 09:31:24PM -0400, Simon wrote:
 On 6/2/07, Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because on some architectures, there are not 2 GHz dual-core or
 quad-core CPUs available.  Making them take double or triple the time
 for a 10% gain space is probably not acceptable.
 
 It's not about saving space, it's about handling upstream release
 archives with a minimum of modifications.  I agree about the
 performance concerns, and gzip has a very high performance to
 compression rate ratio, but handling upstream files unmodified saves
 developers time, and avoids the confusion about the origin of a
 tarball.
 

Yes.  But then what of projects like OpenOffice.org and gcc?

OOo releases their sources in .tar.bz2 files of the following sizes:
117 MB, 28 MB, 16 MB, 70 MB and 28 MB.  Gcc releases their sources in
.tar.bz2 files of the following sizes: 42 MB, 4 MB, 18.1 MB, 957 KB, 5
MB, 10 MB, 193 KB, 4 MB.

Now, according to http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi, the arm and m68k
machines avaiable are:

 elara - (206 MHz StrongARM, 64 MB RAM)
 europa - (206 MHz StrongARM, 128 MB RAM)
 leisner - (184 MHz ARM, 60 MB RAM)
 kullervo - (50 MHz 68060, 112 MB RAM)

I am relatively certain that on those machines, the speed boost of using
gzip compression over bzip2 compression is probably quite necessary in
the ability of those machines which are being used as buildds to keep
up.  If you search for gzip bzip2 comparisons or benchmarks you will
also see, that depending on the benchmark and the files tested, bzip2
can take a great deal longer (some bench marks reported times of up to
triple that of gzip) to decompress with bzip2.  In addition, bzip2 hogs
memory.  One benchmark [0] on the OOo 1.1.4 sources showed that when
using compression level 9, the sources compressed to 78768334 bytes for
gzip and 72223858 for bzip2 (a savings of ~6 MB).  However, the
decompression time was 38.2s for bzip2 and 3.1 seconds for gzip.  That
is a difference of more than order of magnitude.  The difference for the
Linux 2.6.11 sources was even bigger!  To say nothing of the fact that
bzip2 required about quadruple the amount of memory on decompression.

Regards,

-Roberto

[0] http://tukaani.org/lzma/benchmarks
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Re: About md5sums of debian sources

2007-06-04 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 00:54 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
 
 I am relatively certain that on those machines, the speed boost of
 using
 gzip compression over bzip2 compression is probably quite necessary in
 the ability of those machines which are being used as buildds to keep
 up.  

This would suggest that the decompression time (with bz2) is a
dominating factor in building software on these machines.. is it?

Or is it just supposition?

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Re: About md5sums of debian sources

2007-06-04 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:59:16PM +1000, Robert Collins wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 00:54 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
  
  I am relatively certain that on those machines, the speed boost of
  using
  gzip compression over bzip2 compression is probably quite necessary in
  the ability of those machines which are being used as buildds to keep
  up.  
 
 This would suggest that the decompression time (with bz2) is a
 dominating factor in building software on these machines.. is it?
 
 Or is it just supposition?
 
Good point.  For things like OOo, gcc and linux, probably not.  But I
imagine that the memory issues is much more relevant.  If bzip2 hogs
lots of memory, it will push into swap, which will slow things down even
more.  Of course, there is also the perspective that every little bit
helps.

Regards,

-Roberto

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