Config files which are writable by www-data

2008-02-09 Thread Roland Gruber
Hi all,

I am the maintainer of ldap-account-manager and got bug 462192.

The problem is that my application provides a set of default templates
for user creation. These files must be editable via the application
itself and therefore reside in /var/ldap-account-manager.
But the files are overwritten on every package installation because they
are not treated as config files in Debian's sense.

Now I think about moving the files to /etc. But Debian policy sais that
files in /etc should be owned by root and writable only by the user.

So what can I do? Would it be ok to assign these files to group www-data
and allow the group write access? Or would it be better to own them by
www-data and not root?

Thanks a lot for your help.


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Re: RFS: libx86 (adopted package)

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:40:31 +0530
Kapil Hari Paranjape [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Hello,
 
 On Sat, 09 Feb 2008, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
  I have not yet done the rest of my review so you may want to wait a
  while before uploading a new version to mentors.
 
 Since you are adding quilt, it is probably a good idea to modify/add
 the Makefile in a quilt patch.

Ooops, I must have missed that, sorry. (I usually leave only debian/ into the
.diff.gz). Probably it was done by the previous maintainer, and I just didn't
notice it. It has been fixed now :)

 Once you take a decision on this and the name change please upload
 your file to mentors and I will upload it.

Sure, done.

I decided to use your suggestion as the version number, with revision number
1 (i.e. 0.99.ds1-2), because it's the first release with the repackaged
source. And, IMHO, it's better than the +ds thing.

Here you are:

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libx86/libx86_0.99.ds1-1.dsc

Thanks for reviewing this package.

Kindly,
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Re: RFS: libx86 (adopted package)

2008-02-09 Thread Luca Bruno
David Paleino scrisse:

 I decided to use your suggestion as the version number, with revision
 number 1 (i.e. 0.99.ds1-2), because it's the first release with the
 repackaged source. And, IMHO, it's better than the +ds thing.

I'd say that this isn't a great idea. If in the future upstream release
a micro revision, eg 0.99.1, you'll be in trouble as 0.99.1 isn't
greater than your 0.99.ds1. Please compare these:

dpkg --compare-versions  0.99.1  gt  0.99.ds1  echo OK
dpkg --compare-versions  0.99.1  gt  0.99+ds1  echo OK

 Kindly,
 David
 
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Re: RFS: QA Upload -- quiteinsane

2008-02-09 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi,

Barry deFreese wrote:
 Here is another QA upload.  Closes 1 bug and does some package clean-up
 / standards update.
Your changes all look great (it's not quite done building yet, but you will have
done that), maybe we can make two more changes, though:

And the copyright file is very wrong and needs to be redone. It misses copyright
statements and even copyright holders (e.g. Trolltech).

On the other hand, in debian/control:
 .
  Author:   Michael Herder [EMAIL PROTECTED]

does not belong in the description.

Kind regards

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Re: RFS: libx86 (adopted package)

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sat, 9 Feb 2008 10:45:48 +0100
Luca Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 David Paleino scrisse:
 
  I decided to use your suggestion as the version number, with revision
  number 1 (i.e. 0.99.ds1-2), because it's the first release with the
  repackaged source. And, IMHO, it's better than the +ds thing.
 
 I'd say that this isn't a great idea. If in the future upstream release
 a micro revision, eg 0.99.1, you'll be in trouble as 0.99.1 isn't
 greater than your 0.99.ds1. Please compare these:
 
 dpkg --compare-versions  0.99.1  gt  0.99.ds1  echo OK
 dpkg --compare-versions  0.99.1  gt  0.99+ds1  echo OK

You're right. Thanks for noticing this :)

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libx86/libx86_0.99+ds1-1.dsc

Ciao,
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RFS: debian-builder (updated package)

2008-02-09 Thread Deepak Tripathi

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.8
of my package debian-builder.

It builds these binary packages:
debian-builder - Rebuild Debian packages from source code

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 457027

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/debian-builder
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/debian-builder/debian-builder_1.8.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
Deepak Tripathi


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Re: RFS: syslog-summary (updated and adopted package)

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:57:06 +0100
David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.13 of the package
 syslog-summary, which I'm also adopting (ITA: #455005).

Anyone interested in this? :)

David

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Re: RFS: libx86 (adopted package)

2008-02-09 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008, David Paleino wrote:
 You're right. Thanks for noticing this :)
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libx86/libx86_0.99+ds1-1.dsc

Looks like there is convergence!

I'm currently away from my build machine. I'll upload as soon as I
get there.

Regards,

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Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-09 Thread Riku Voipio
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 01:34:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 I think that it is a bit frivolous to distribute software with
 advertisment clause in main and not properly warning the redistributors,

I think the short term solution to this dilemma is to compile a list
of attributions needed to be included in advertizment material.
Also a list should be compiled attributions needed n documentation
(such as libjpeg's). Obviously most distributors/boob writers will
not notice such lists, but that's a different problem...

 Anyway, I really think that there are good chances to obtain a
 relicencing, that is by far the best way to find a solution that
 pleases everybody.

This is even better, but it can pontially take a very long time.
I believe it has bee requested from OpenSSL people years ago..

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Re: RFS: QA Upload -- quiteinsane

2008-02-09 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Thomas Viehmann wrote:
 Barry deFreese wrote:
 Here is another QA upload.  Closes 1 bug and does some package clean-up
 / standards update.
 Your changes all look great (it's not quite done building yet, but you will 
 have
 done that), maybe we can make two more changes, though:
[...]
Thanks for adding these. Uploaded.

Kind regards

T.


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RFS: dictconv (5th try)

2008-02-09 Thread Francesco Namuri
Hi,

asking again for a sponsorfor dictconv. No one interested? I think it's
a very useful tool...

  Package name: dictconv
  Version : 0.2-4
  Upstream Author : Raul Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  URL : http://ktranslator.sourceforge.net/
  License : GPL
  Section : utils

It builds these binary packages:
dictconv   - convert a dictionary file type in another dictionary file type

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 435814

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/dictconv
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/dictconv/dictconv_0.2-4.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
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RFS: QA Upload -- quiteinsanegimpplugin

2008-02-09 Thread Barry deFreese

Hi folks,

Since I did quiteinsane I figured it was only right to fix up 
quiteinsanegimplugin.  Fixes 1 bug and some package clean-up / standards 
updates.  Including fixing up similar debian/copyright issues to 
quiteinsane.


http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/q/quiteinsanegimpplugin/quiteinsanegimpplugin_0.3-9.dsc

Thank you,

Barry deFreese


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[uploaded] RFS: libx86 (adopted package)

2008-02-09 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008, David Paleino wrote:
 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 0.99-2+ds1 of the package
 libx86, which I want to adopt.

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008, David Paleino wrote:
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libx86/libx86_0.99+ds1-1.dsc

Uploaded. Thanks for your work on this package.

Please check http://buildd.debian.org/libx86
for further information on the results of buildd's.

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Re: [uploaded] RFS: libx86 (adopted package)

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:45:23 +0530
Kapil Hari Paranjape [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Uploaded. Thanks for your work on this package.

Thank you for reviewing and uploading it.

Kindly,
David

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Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-09 Thread Joey Hess
Riku Voipio wrote:
 I think the short term solution to this dilemma is to compile a list
 of attributions needed to be included in advertizment material.
 Also a list should be compiled attributions needed n documentation
 (such as libjpeg's). Obviously most distributors/boob writers will
 not notice such lists, but that's a different problem...

Most writers don't have to worry about it, it's not as if we advertise
Debian as Debian.. now with Thomas G. Lane's JPEG support and OpenSSL.
The advertisement clause tries to not allow those specific attributions
to be used in advertisements; it does NOT require that advertisements
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Re: RFS: debian-builder (updated package)

2008-02-09 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:26:48 +0530
Deepak Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.8
 of my package debian-builder.
 
 It builds these binary packages:
 debian-builder - Rebuild Debian packages from source code

Why is this worth having in Debian? (What's wrong with apt-get -b or
the half-dozen other ways of building a source package?)

How many more (vanity) build systems must we have

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RFS: xpn

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package xpn.

* Package name: xpn
  Version : 1.0.0-1
  Upstream Author : Antonio Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://xpn.altervista.org/index_en.html
* License : GPL-2+
  Section : news

It builds these binary packages:
xpn- graphical newsreader written in Python and GTK+ toolkit

  With XPN you can read/write articles on the Usenet with a good MIME support.
  XPN can operate with all the most widespread charsets, starting from US-ASCII
  to UTF-8. When you edit an article XPN automatically chooses the best
  charset, however is always possible to override this choice.
  .
  There also other useful features like scoring, filtered views, random
  tag-lines, external editor support, one-key navigation, ROT13, spoiler
  char, ...

The package is lintian clean.

The upload would fix ITP #439107

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xpn
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main
contrib non-free
- dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xpn/xpn_1.0.0-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
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Re: RFS: xpn

2008-02-09 Thread Nico Golde
Hi David,
* David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-09 19:46]:
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package xpn.
 
 * Package name: xpn
   Version : 1.0.0-1
   Upstream Author : Antonio Caputo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * URL : http://xpn.altervista.org/index_en.html
[...] 
The upstream homepage results in a 404, please adjust that.
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Re: RFS: dictconv (5th try)

2008-02-09 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:04:59 +0100
David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2) debian/changelog should list only official releases. You're already at -4,
 without even a single official upload to the repositories :). Shrink all the
 info to Initial release (Closes: #foo), as you've never uploaded it.

Francesco is following my recommendation:
http://people.debian.org/~codehelp/#increment

 3) are the files listed in debian/docs really necessary/useful? I found useful
 just the README: IMHO you could safely remove debian/docs and pass README
 directly to dh_installdocs (this would be with debhelper, I don't really like
 cdbs).

There are sponsors who *do* like CDBS. In the case of the README, CDBS adds 
this automatically (if it exists). The listing in debian/docs does no harm.

Francesco - I notice this is the 5th try for this package. I don't remember 
seeing a long description, maybe that would help?

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Re: RFS: dictconv (5th try)

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:31:11 +0100
Francesco Namuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Hi,

Hi Francesco (piacere, David :),

 
 ...
 

IANADD, but I have some suggestions for your package:

1) why is it Priority: extra? Put it Priority: optional, if there is no
specific reason to put it as extra;

2) debian/changelog should list only official releases. You're already at -4,
without even a single official upload to the repositories :). Shrink all the
info to Initial release (Closes: #foo), as you've never uploaded it.

3) are the files listed in debian/docs really necessary/useful? I found useful
just the README: IMHO you could safely remove debian/docs and pass README
directly to dh_installdocs (this would be with debhelper, I don't really like
cdbs).

HTH,
David

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Re: RFS: xpn

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:53:10 +0100
Nico Golde [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Hi David,

Hi Nico,

 * David Paleino [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-09 19:46]:

  * URL : http://xpn.altervista.org/index_en.html
 
 The upstream homepage results in a 404, please adjust that.

It's index-en.html, not index_en.html. I wrote that by hand (sorry for not
cutpasting) :)

http://xpn.altervista.org/index-en.html

Kindly,
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RFS: QA Upload -- ksocrat

2008-02-09 Thread Barry deFreese

Hi,

While working on removing libqt3-compat-headers, I ran across this 
orhpaned package as well so here is one to fix this issue as well as 
standards update, etc, etc.


If someone has time to review/upload, I would appreciate it.

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/k/ksocrat/ksocrat_3.2.1-2.dsc

Thank you,

Barry deFreese


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Re: RFS: debian-builder (updated package)

2008-02-09 Thread Deepak Tripathi
On Feb 9, 2008 11:58 PM, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:26:48 +0530
 Deepak Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Dear mentors,
 
  I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.8
  of my package debian-builder.
 
  It builds these binary packages:
  debian-builder - Rebuild Debian packages from source code

 Why is this worth having in Debian? (What's wrong with apt-get -b or
 the half-dozen other ways of building a source package?)

Hi ,
Nothing is wrong with apt-get -b BUT   It is not designed to enhance your
installation
 by producing optimized binaries, however this may be achieved  with the aid
of companion packages such as 'pentium-builder' or 'athlon-builder'.
 The prime purpose of this package is to ease the testing of  compiler
patches such as the Stack Smashing Protection patch  available from IBM.



 How many more (vanity) build systems must we have

there are many and besically it depends how the community uses them,.


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Re: Config files which are writable by www-data

2008-02-09 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 10:09:13AM +0100, Roland Gruber wrote:
 The problem is that my application provides a set of default templates
 for user creation. These files must be editable via the application
 itself and therefore reside in /var/ldap-account-manager.

I most sincerely hope they do not.

 But the files are overwritten on every package installation because they
 are not treated as config files in Debian's sense.

Well, don't do that, then.  Ship the template files somewhere else, and then
copy them into /var if they're not already there.

 Now I think about moving the files to /etc. But Debian policy sais that
 files in /etc should be owned by root and writable only by the user.
 
 So what can I do? Would it be ok to assign these files to group www-data
 and allow the group write access? Or would it be better to own them by
 www-data and not root?

There are already some files in /etc that are writable by www-data, so
that's a possibility too.  It comes down to direct admin editability -- is
it expected that sysadmins may want to futz around with these template files
using a text editor, or is the only sensible way of dealing with these files
through the application?  If the former, /etc.  If the latter, /var.

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Re: RFS: debian-builder (updated package)

2008-02-09 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 02:35 +0530, Deepak Tripathi wrote:
 On Feb 9, 2008 11:58 PM, Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:26:48 +0530
 Deepak Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear mentors,
 
  I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 1.8
  of my package debian-builder.
 
  It builds these binary packages:
  debian-builder - Rebuild Debian packages from source code
 
 
 Why is this worth having in Debian? (What's wrong with apt-get
 -b or
 the half-dozen other ways of building a source package?)
 Hi ,
 Nothing is wrong with apt-get -b BUT   It is not designed to enhance
 your installation
  by producing optimized binaries, however this may be achieved  with
 the aid of companion packages such as 'pentium-builder' or
 'athlon-builder'.
  The prime purpose of this package is to ease the testing of  compiler
 patches such as the Stack Smashing Protection patch  available from
 IBM.

Please post the long description - this sounds like a very specialised
package that should indicate this in the description if not in the
package name.

debian-builder appears to be far too generic - there would be no reason
to rebuild more than a few packages with such a tool IMHO.

 
 How many more (vanity) build systems must we have
 there are many and besically it depends how the community uses them,. 

No, it is how many Debian should support. There is a great deal of
controversy about build systems right now and you have not yet given any
convincing evidence of why this one should be added.

The problem with all build systems is that they start out as useful for
a few problems but soon they are adopted for packages outside that
remit which then depend on them and from which maintainers do not want
to move.

What is the role for this package with regard to packages to be uploaded
to Debian? What differences does your build system introduce that would
cause the binaries to differ from those inspected by the security team?
Why not simply use quilt or some other patch system and an existing
build tool - script it in shell if necessary.

Are you aware of the issues with introducing a new build tool? What are
your answers for the problems currently being discussed in Debian around
such build tools, patch systems and source package changes with regard
to your package?

A build tool is not an ordinary package. You need to work a lot harder
(now and forever more) to show that you can maintain this package in
the round and improve it to meet future changes as-yet-unknown.

I'd be surprised if this is achievable without being part of the
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Re: RFS: QA Upload -- ksocrat

2008-02-09 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:48:56PM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote:
 While working on removing libqt3-compat-headers, I ran across this 
 orhpaned package as well so here is one to fix this issue as well as 
 standards update, etc, etc.
 
 If someone has time to review/upload, I would appreciate it.
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/k/ksocrat/ksocrat_3.2.1-2.dsc

Uploaded

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Re: RFS: QA Upload -- vipec

2008-02-09 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 12:33:33AM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote:
 Here is another QA upload.  Fixes two bugs and standards updates if 
 someone has time to review/upload.
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/v/vipec/vipec_3.2.0-5.dsc

Uploaded

Gruesse,
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RFS: pydance

2008-02-09 Thread Brandon
I am looking for a sponsor so I can adopt the package pydance. It is
a dancing simulator, much like the ones in the arcades, such as Dance
Dance Revolution. It is programmed in python. It is published under the
GNU General Public License v2. Upstream has not released anything in
quite some time.

The ITA is here: http://bugs.debian.org/388361
Upstream is here: http://www.icculus.org/pyddr/

I have already created a package which I believe is fit to be put into
unstable. It fixes a few minor bugs, such as setting the standards
version, and making myself the maintainer, as well as one bigger bug
which caused pydance to crash when loading certain files.

The dsc, source, and diff are here:
http://wntrknit.freeshell.org/pydance_1.0.3-5.dsc
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pydance/pydance_1.0.3.orig.tar.gz
http://wntrknit.freeshell.org/pydance_1.0.3-5.diff.gz

-Brandon


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