Re: Debian policy, a problem or a misunderstand ?
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 07:16:50AM +0200, Laurent Guignard wrote: Hi mentors, I read the Debian policy to create my package and i read this at chapter 6.1 Introduction to package maintainer scripts The package management system looks at the exit status from these scripts. *It is important that they exit with a non-zero status if there is an error*, so that the package management system can stop its processing. For shell scripts this means that you almost always need to use set -e (this is usually true when writing shell scripts, in fact). It is also important, of course, that *they don’t exit with a non-zero status if everything went well.* It seems that if an error occurs, the script have to exit with non-zero status and later in paragraph, if all went well, the script has to exit with non-zero status. How do i have understand that ? My opinion is that if everything went well, the exit status has to be zero other else a non-zero status ? Basic shell exit code convention may be non-intuitive. non-zero if ERROR zero if success [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ true ; echo $? 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ false ; echo $? 1 Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian policy, a problem or a misunderstand ?
Laurent Guignard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi mentors, I read the Debian policy to create my package and i read this at chapter 6.1 Introduction to package maintainer scripts The package management system looks at the exit status from these scripts. *It is important that they exit with a non-zero status if there is an error*, so that the package management system can stop its processing. For shell scripts this means that you almost always need to use set -e (this is usually true when writing shell scripts, in fact). It is also important, of course, that *they don’t exit with a non-zero status if everything went well.* It seems that if an error occurs, the script have to exit with non-zero status Yes. and later in paragraph, if all went well, the script has to exit with non-zero status. No, you've flipped a boolean somewhere :-) It says exactly the opposite: it is important that the script *not* exit with a non-zero status if all went well. How do i have understand that ? Perhaps the double negatives are confusing you. My opinion is that if everything went well, the exit status has to be zero other else a non-zero status ? Yes, that's the meaning of the passage you quoted. -- \“I don't accept the currently fashionable assertion that any | `\ view is automatically as worthy of respect as any equal and | _o__) opposite view.” —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
Hei, You might want to investigate the 'pbuilder' package for maintaining a chroot specifically to build your packages inside. You should also test your packages in unstable too. So how would I do that efficiently? It is highly unlikely that I buy a second computer, or that I replace ubuntu on the existing one... The package has only 4 files (binary, copyright, changelog, manpage). http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise I did not find any hints regarding debian/ubuntu on this wiki page. Best wishes, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
This one time, at band camp, Alexander Bürger said: Hei, You might want to investigate the 'pbuilder' package for maintaining a chroot specifically to build your packages inside. You should also test your packages in unstable too. So how would I do that efficiently? It is highly unlikely that I buy a second computer, or that I replace ubuntu on the existing one... Most people who want to run stable on their machines use an unstable chroot for development work. -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
Hi, On Saturday 18 October 2008 12:28, Stephen Gran wrote: Most people who want to run stable on their machines use an unstable chroot for development work. Depending on the needs, a virtual machine using the virtualbox package is another good option. regards, Holger pgpQCyr2DTHf8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian policy, a problem or a misunderstand ?
Ben Finney a écrit : Laurent Guignard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi mentors, I read the Debian policy to create my package and i read this at chapter 6.1 Introduction to package maintainer scripts The package management system looks at the exit status from these scripts. *It is important that they exit with a non-zero status if there is an error*, so that the package management system can stop its processing. For shell scripts this means that you almost always need to use set -e (this is usually true when writing shell scripts, in fact). It is also important, of course, that *they don’t exit with a non-zero status if everything went well.* It seems that if an error occurs, the script have to exit with non-zero status Yes. and later in paragraph, if all went well, the script has to exit with non-zero status. No, you've flipped a boolean somewhere :-) It says exactly the opposite: it is important that the script *not* exit with a non-zero status if all went well. How do i have understand that ? Perhaps the double negatives are confusing you. Yes it is. A saturday, 07:00 it is excusable ;). My opinion is that if everything went well, the exit status has to be zero other else a non-zero status ? Yes, that's the meaning of the passage you quoted. Sorry for noise. -- Laurent Guignard, Registered as user #301590 with the Linux Counter Site : http://www.famille-guignard.org Blog : http://blog.famille-guignard.org Projet : http://sicontact.sourceforge.net GULL de Villefranche sur Saône : http://www.cagull.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
Hi! Alexander Bürger schrieb: You might want to investigate the 'pbuilder' package for maintaining a chroot specifically to build your packages inside. You should also test your packages in unstable too. So how would I do that efficiently? It is highly unlikely that I buy a second computer, or that I replace ubuntu on the existing one... You don't need a second computer. Ben already mentioned one tool you could use: pbuilder. You can set up an chroot environment with that tool, build packages in a clean sid environment and you can test (some) things when using pbuilder --login and installing your package there. Best regards, Alexander signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Debian policy, a problem or a misunderstand ?
Ben Finney wrote: Laurent Guignard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] It is also important, of course, that *they don’t exit with a non-zero status if everything went well.* How do i have understand that ? Perhaps the double negatives are confusing you. They are confusing indeed. It would be better if it was written ... that they exit with a zero return status if everything went well. Comments, your could a wishlist bug be filled suggesting this wording change? -- Your program is sick! Shoot it and put it out of its memory. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
Hi, ... a virtual machine ... I set up a virtual machine with debian unstable and re-built the package. The only change from this step was that the Standards-Version is now 3.8.0. The new package is re-uploaded to debian-mentors. It can be found via: - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/fig2sxd - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/fig2sxd/fig2sxd_0.19-1.dsc I would be glad if someone uploaded the package for me. Thanks, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cracklib2 bashism in update-cracklib fixed
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 08:07:11PM +, Jan Dittberner wrote: Hello release team, hello mentors, the Ubuntu folks discovered a bug [1] in cracklib-runtime that turned out to be caused by a bashism in its update-cracklib script. Steve Langasek fixed the issue in the Ubuntu package and forwarded me a link to the debdiff [2]. Unfortunately a new upstream version of cracklib2 has been created and was uploaded to unstable recently, so I cannot simply go the way through unstable. I don't want to introduce the new upstream release in Lenny at this late point of the release cycle and you surely do not want it too. I prepared an upload to testing-proposed-updates that includes only the fix for the bug mentioned above and the fix for the cracklib-runtime's postinst maintainer-script-ignores-error fix that I made in 2.8.13-1. I'm no DD so I need a sponsor to upload the package. I put the package on mentors.debian.net [3]. The debdiff is attached to this mail. Will the package reach Lenny this way? If not, could anybody please unblock it when it's uploaded? Regards Jan Dittberner [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278743 [2] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18591357/cracklib2-278743.debdiff [3] http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/c/cracklib2/cracklib2_2.8.12-8lenny1.dsc I'll sponsor and unblock it. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpooRLw47FmZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian policy, a problem or a misunderstand ?
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 07:16:50AM +0200, Laurent Guignard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi mentors, I read the Debian policy to create my package and i read this at chapter 6.1 Introduction to package maintainer scripts The package management system looks at the exit status from these scripts. *It is important that they exit with a non-zero status if there ^ is an error*, so that the package management system can stop its processing. For shell scripts this means that you almost always need to use set -e (this is usually true when writing shell scripts, in fact). It is also important, of course, that *they don’t exit with a non-zero ^^^ status if everything went well.* Perhaps this should say If everything goes well, they should exit with zero status. It seems that if an error occurs, the script have to exit with non-zero status and later in paragraph, if all went well, the script has to exit should not with non-zero status. How do i have understand that ? My opinion is that if everything went well, the exit status has to be zero other else a non-zero status ? Correct. Justin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFS: ttf-rufscript
Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my package ttf-rufscript. * Package name : ttf-rufscript Version : 010-1 Upstream Author : Hiran Venugopalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://hiran.in/blog/rufscript-font * License : GPL-3 + Font exception Section : x11 It builds these binary packages: ttf-rufscript - a handwriting based font for Latin characters The package appears to be lintian clean. The upload would fix these bugs: 502645 The package can be found on mentors.debian.net: - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/ttf-rufscript - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free - dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/ttf-rufscript/ttf-rufscript_010-1.dsc I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me. Kind regards Andrew Starr-Bochicchio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
Alexander Bürger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, ... a virtual machine ... I set up a virtual machine with debian unstable and re-built the package. The only change from this step was that the Standards-Version is now 3.8.0. You also tested the package inside the chroot as a user of that package, to make sure it's as functional? -- \“Like the creators of sitcoms or junk food or package tours, | `\ Java's designers were consciously designing a product for | _o__) people not as smart as them.” —Paul Graham | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
Alexander Bürger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hei, You should also test your packages in unstable too. So how would I do that efficiently? It is highly unlikely that I buy a second computer, or that I replace ubuntu on the existing one... As an aside: It is the burden of the package maintainer to ensure they have the proper development and packaging environment. If you're not able to maintain a Debian ‘unstable’ environment for proper packaging and testing of your packages, you may want to re-think whether you're currently able to do the service of package management. -- \“Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?” “Wuh, I think | `\ so, Brain, but how will we get three pink flamingos into one | _o__) pair of Capri pants?” —_Pinky and The Brain_ | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
Hi, ... virtual machine with debian unstable ... ... inside the chroot ... Which chroot? ... make sure it's as functional? Yes, it is! Best wishes, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fig2sxd
Hi, ... also test your packages in unstable ... ... how ... efficiently? ... ... burden ... If you're not able ... re-think ... Sorry. I do not package very often so I sometimes have basic questions or problems. I was not sure what would be the simplest acceptable solution to the 'ubuntu problem'. I had the impression that pbuilder was not acceptable and I did not immediately think of a virtual machine. Best wishes, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
