Re: BSD licenses

2008-11-26 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello Gudjon,

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 07:25, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
I am trying to package software that contains code with different BSD
 licenses. However, none of the licenses are similar to
 /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD

So simply include those licenses in debian/copyright along with the
files they're appling to.

 Is there any homepage with versioned BSD licenses that I can refer to?

If your intent is to add those links into debian/copyright, please
don't: web pages can change, and even become unavailable with time, so
the license text would be unavailable too; and we would give chance to
read legal stuff to people with no network connection.

Regards,
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Re: RFS: webcpp (adoption, bugfix and standards/dh7)

2008-11-26 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 02:32, Jonathan Wiltshire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear mentors,

 I am seeking a sponsor for my package webcpp

Here a review:

debian/compat
- has 5 while you declare versioned build-dep on debhelper =7

debian/rules
- don't export DH_VERBOSE
- you can remove the commented header
- no need to [ ! -f configure-stamp ] || ... since -stamp targets
are only executed is -stamp file is missing
- -stamp file are sually touched with touch $@ (less spelling
problem and chars to digit ;) )
- instead of ln -s you can use dh_link and its file to create symlinks
- you may play a bit with Makefile (patching it) instead of install
doc.html in a dir and then move it into Debian right place

debian/README.source
- it's missing, but it's needed by 3.8.0, to explain that you're using
a patch system.

All the rest if fine, so I kindly ask you this additional effort for
the package, and then I can upload your package.

Once you'll have prepared the package, please upload again to mentors and reply.

Kindly,
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Re: RFS: dhcp-probe, another try to request with a lot of update

2008-11-26 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi

Dne Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:43:58 -0800
Michael Tautschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):

 [...]
  - debian/README.source content should be rather in debian/README.Debian
  
 
 I think this is not entirely true:
 - First paragraph in there is ok (dhcp-probe for Debian)

But it IMHO does not bring any useful information - you could
write about every package that it follows upstream development and
follow all principles of the Debian distribution.

 - Second paragraph should mostly be moved (Special usecase, but not the last
   sentence, which is not relevant for our users)
 
 Further, the current contents of README.Debian is a general info and nothing
 Debian specific, it should rather be dropped.

Right, maybe both files should be simply dropped, because there is no
Debian specific information...

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Re: BSD licenses

2008-11-26 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Hi Sandro
   And thanks for the answer
 I am trying to package software that contains code with different BSD
  licenses. However, none of the licenses are similar to
  /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD

 So simply include those licenses in debian/copyright along with the
 files they're appling to.

  Is there any homepage with versioned BSD licenses that I can refer to?

 If your intent is to add those links into debian/copyright, please
 don't: web pages can change, and even become unavailable with time, so
 the license text would be unavailable too; and we would give chance to
 read legal stuff to people with no network connection.

The problem is not to copy the licenses to the copyright file but the question 
is rather if the BSD license has some official homepage and if the different 
BSD licenses are version numbered so I can check if the licenses in the 
program I am packaging are similar to one of them.

What I know is that there is an old BSD license which is not GPL compatible 
but a new one is. How many BSD licenses exist? Which are GPL compatible?

Thanks
Gudjon


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Re: RFS: exact-image

2008-11-26 Thread Sven Eckelmann
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 13:23:36 Michal Čihař wrote:
 Hi
Thx for your response

 Dne Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:13:22 +0100

 Sven Eckelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):
  It builds these binary packages:
  bardecode  - command-line barcode decoder
  e2mtiff- any to multi-page TIFF converter
  econvert   - Fast Imagemagick convert clone
  edentify   - Fast Imagemagick identify clone
  empty-page - Threshold based command line decision tool
  hocr2pdf   - hOCR to searchable image pdf converter
  optimize2bw - Optimzed color/gray image to bw conversation utility

 Isn't this just too much packages? How about putting all these binaries
 into single binary package?
Ok, I will create a single exactimage package with all binaries.

 On the other side, I would expect shared
 library package to exist, but there is none.
There is currently no shared library so I cannot provide a binary package with 
it.

Best regards,
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Re: RFS: exact-image

2008-11-26 Thread Sven Eckelmann
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 13:23:36 Michal Čihař wrote:
 On the other side, I would expect shared
 library package to exist, but there is none.
Ok, I decided to stop to try to create a debian packages of exactimage for now 
because it does not fulfil his function as library and only provides binaries 
and script binding when it got packaged.

The other changes will be added to my repository but I will not upload them to 
mentors anymore.

Best regards,
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Re: RFS: exact-image

2008-11-26 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi

Dne Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:13:22 +0100
Sven Eckelmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):

 It builds these binary packages:
 bardecode  - command-line barcode decoder
 e2mtiff- any to multi-page TIFF converter
 econvert   - Fast Imagemagick convert clone
 edentify   - Fast Imagemagick identify clone
 empty-page - Threshold based command line decision tool
 hocr2pdf   - hOCR to searchable image pdf converter
 optimize2bw - Optimzed color/gray image to bw conversation utility

Isn't this just too much packages? How about putting all these binaries
into single binary package? On the other side, I would expect shared
library package to exist, but there is none.

 perl-exactimage - ExactImage Perl API
 php5-exactimage - ExactImage PHP API
 python-exactimage - ExactImage Python API
 
 The package appears to be lintian clean.
 
 The upload would fix these bugs: 502183
 
 The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
 - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/e/exact-image
 - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
 contrib non-free
 - dget 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/e/exact-image/exact-image_0.6.7-1.dsc

Also debian/rules is wrong as configured does not seem to
generate config.status.

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Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] RFS: ttf-sil-gentium (release-goal bug fix)

2008-11-26 Thread Nicolas Spalinger
[..]

 I will include your changes in
 the current pkg-fonts team-maintained packaging tomorrow.

Theppitak's work is integrated in a updated package available on:
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/ttf-sil-gentium/ttf-sil-gentium_1.02-7.dsc
(The work is also in our team svn).

I'm looking for a sponsor for this update.
Thanks.

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Re: RFS: webcpp (adoption, bugfix and standards/dh7)

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:00:52AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
 debian/compat
 - has 5 while you declare versioned build-dep on debhelper =7
 debian/rules
 - don't export DH_VERBOSE
 - you can remove the commented header

Fixed

 - no need to [ ! -f configure-stamp ] || ... since -stamp targets
 are only executed is -stamp file is missing
 - -stamp file are sually touched with touch $@ (less spelling
 problem and chars to digit ;) )

Aha, still learning about dh7!

 - instead of ln -s you can use dh_link and its file to create symlinks
 - you may play a bit with Makefile (patching it) instead of install
 doc.html in a dir and then move it into Debian right place

I've patched it in 05_makefile_docdir

 debian/README.source
 - it's missing, but it's needed by 3.8.0, to explain that you're using
 a patch system.

Ok, written and included.

The dsc is at:
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/w/webcpp/webcpp_0.8.4-7.dsc

Thanks for your comments.



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Re: Preferred version format for svn revisions?

2008-11-26 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 19:12, Cyril Brulebois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sandro Tosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] (09/11/2008):
 yes it it: you have to provide a programmatical way to
 retrive/generate the orig.tar.gz […]

 FSVO have to. It is clearly tagged as optional in Policy §4.9.

Thanks KiBi for pointing it out, let's rephrase as for you to have me
sponsor your package, please add a get-orig-source target to
retrieve/generate the orig.tar.gz

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Re: RFS: wallpaper-tray (updated package)

2008-11-26 Thread Guido Loupias

Hey Sandro,

I'm a little confused about your suggestion with regards to README.source.

Sandro Tosi schreef:

... and we expect to find in this file the
information to use the source package that *differs* from the normal
way; so, no need to say use dpkg-source -x .dsc to obtain the debian
package, we know how to do it since it's the normal way to do it. What
I expect is something like we manage to patch the upstream source
code with dpatch, take a look at dpatch docs in /usr/share/doc/dpatch


However the policy manual says that it should include specific commands[1] and 
that it should not assume familiarity with any specific Debian packaging system 
or patch management tools.[1]


1: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-readmesource

Regards,
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Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] RFS: ttf-sil-gentium (release-goal bug fix)

2008-11-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Nicolas Spalinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 [..]
 
  I will include your changes in
  the current pkg-fonts team-maintained packaging tomorrow.
 
 Theppitak's work is integrated in a updated package available on:
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/ttf-sil-gentium/ttf-sil-gentium_1.02-7.dsc
 (The work is also in our team svn).


H:

ttf-sil-gentium (20081126:1.02-7) unstable; urgency=low
   * preinst: Clear obsolete conffile. (Closes: #455109). (Thanks to Theppitak
   Karoonboonyanan)

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Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] RFS: ttf-sil-gentium (release-goal bug fix)

2008-11-26 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Nicolas Spalinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [..]

 I will include your changes in
 the current pkg-fonts team-maintained packaging tomorrow.

 Theppitak's work is integrated in a updated package available on:
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/ttf-sil-gentium/ttf-sil-gentium_1.02-7.dsc
 (The work is also in our team svn).

I think you still have to add the transitional package ttf-gentium
back, and do the preinst for it there. Otherwise, ttf-gentium in etch
will never be upgraded to this new version, unless the user
explicitly installs the renamed package.

That's why I decided to upload to t-p-u in the first place, as it
would be too intrusive for NMU if done in unstable.

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Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] RFS: ttf-sil-gentium (release-goal bug fix)

2008-11-26 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Nicolas Spalinger
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [..]

 I will include your changes in
 the current pkg-fonts team-maintained packaging tomorrow.

 Theppitak's work is integrated in a updated package available on:
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/ttf-sil-gentium/ttf-sil-gentium_1.02-7.dsc
 (The work is also in our team svn).

 I think you still have to add the transitional package ttf-gentium
 back, and do the preinst for it there. Otherwise, ttf-gentium in etch
 will never be upgraded to this new version, unless the user
 explicitly installs the renamed package.

 That's why I decided to upload to t-p-u in the first place, as it
 would be too intrusive for NMU if done in unstable.

Besides, please also update the version in this line in the preinst:

if dpkg --compare-versions $2 le 1.02+dfsg1-5; then

from 1.02+dfsg1-5 to 20080813:1.02-6.

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Re: RFS: webcpp (adoption, bugfix and standards/dh7)

2008-11-26 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello Jonathan,
thanks a lot for the fast reply.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 15:21, Jonathan Wiltshire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:00:52AM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
 - no need to [ ! -f configure-stamp ] || ... since -stamp targets
 are only executed is -stamp file is missing
 - -stamp file are sually touched with touch $@ (less spelling
 problem and chars to digit ;) )

 Aha, still learning about dh7!

well, that's notions about makefiles and not strictly about dh7 :)

 debian/README.source
 - it's missing, but it's needed by 3.8.0, to explain that you're using
 a patch system.

 Ok, written and included.

Even a simpler one where enough :) for example, simply saying you're
using dpatch and the info about dpatch are in /usr/share/doc/dpatch
(similar to what I usually write) would be enough.

 The dsc is at:
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/w/webcpp/webcpp_0.8.4-7.dsc

ehm, I personally like to have all the changes in the revision =
current revision in debian+1, so -6, and you have the opportunity to
fix this since your package FTBFS if build twice in a row. what
does this mean? take your source pacakge and uncompress it, then exec
debuild -us -uc  debuild -us -uc, the second execution will fail
with

dpatch  deapply-all
reverting patch 05_makefile_docdir from ./ ... ok.
reverting patch 04_offbyone from ./ ... ok.
reverting patch 03_bashism_fix from ./ ... ok.
reverting patch 02_gcc43_patch from ./ ... ok.
reverting patch 01_gcc41_patch from ./ ... ok.
rm -rf patch-stamp patch-stampT debian/patched
rm -f config.sub config.guess
[ ! -f Makefile ] || /usr/bin/make distclean
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/morph/deb/sponsorship/webcpp-0.8.4'
cd .  /bin/sh ./config.status Makefile
config.status: error: invalid argument: Makefile
make[1]: *** [Makefile] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/morph/deb/sponsorship/webcpp-0.8.4'
make: *** [clean] Error 2
dpkg-buildpackage: failure: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2
debuild: fatal error at line 1319:
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc failed

could you please give it a look and fix it?

Once ok, please merge all the changes in the -6 entry, and upload
again; don't hesitate to ask in case of any question.

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Re: RFS: wallpaper-tray (updated package)

2008-11-26 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello Gudo,

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 16:23, Guido Loupias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Sandro,

 I'm a little confused about your suggestion with regards to README.source.

sorry about that, I'm attaching a sample file I use in some of my packages, HTH.


 Sandro Tosi schreef:

 ... and we expect to find in this file the
 information to use the source package that *differs* from the normal
 way; so, no need to say use dpkg-source -x .dsc to obtain the debian
 package, we know how to do it since it's the normal way to do it. What
 I expect is something like we manage to patch the upstream source
 code with dpatch, take a look at dpatch docs in /usr/share/doc/dpatch

 However the policy manual says that it should include specific commands[1]
 and that it should not assume familiarity with any specific Debian
 packaging system or patch management tools.[1]

 1: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-readmesource

Yes, but the information about using dpatch are kept into its doc
directory, so why not refer to the package doc instead of rewrite
another short HOWTO use dpatch? If you were using your one custom
patch system (like patches in my_patches/ dir, with name like
name.debpatch applied running a script apply_patch.sh and so on)
then yes, you would have to write carefully what's the way to apply,
unapply, modify, add and remove patches, but given dpatch is
documented in the package doc dir, let's link to it.

And that file is not meant to be a guide to packaging, so dpkg-source
-x and other info are not strictly needed to be there.

I hope this time I was a little bit clearer :)

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Re: BSD licenses

2008-11-26 Thread Jose Luis Rivas
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Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote:
 Hi Sandro
And thanks for the answer
I am trying to package software that contains code with different BSD
 licenses. However, none of the licenses are similar to
 /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD
 So simply include those licenses in debian/copyright along with the
 files they're appling to.

 Is there any homepage with versioned BSD licenses that I can refer to?
 If your intent is to add those links into debian/copyright, please
 don't: web pages can change, and even become unavailable with time, so
 the license text would be unavailable too; and we would give chance to
 read legal stuff to people with no network connection.
 
 The problem is not to copy the licenses to the copyright file but the 
 question 
 is rather if the BSD license has some official homepage and if the different 
 BSD licenses are version numbered so I can check if the licenses in the 
 program I am packaging are similar to one of them.
 
 What I know is that there is an old BSD license which is not GPL compatible 
 but a new one is. How many BSD licenses exist? Which are GPL compatible?

3-clausule BSD is DFSG-compatible [0], there may be infinite
BSD-licenses versions, just check they're DFSG-compatible by checking
each of these points with the license. What you see different are just
clausules the author adds and they may be restrictive at times... So if
you're unsure email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[0]
http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#head-85700b45e3e6dfe08d94e89b596be0e2a297c0c5

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Re: python-uniconvertor breaks help(modules) in python

2008-11-26 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
FYI: python-uniconvertor 1.1.2-2 uploaded to testing-proposed-updates


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Re: RFS: webcpp (adoption, bugfix and standards/dh7)

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
Hi Sandro

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:33:57PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
 ehm, I personally like to have all the changes in the revision =
 current revision in debian+1, so -6, and you have the opportunity to
 fix this since your package FTBFS if build twice in a row. what
 does this mean? take your source pacakge and uncompress it, then exec
 debuild -us -uc  debuild -us -uc, the second execution will fail
 with
 (snip)

Hmm, I was encouraged before to ensure each upload is unique, but I
guess it's preference. (A direct upload to ftp-master requires
uniqueness, doesn't it?)

I think it failed to build twice in a row because the paches were
removed before distclean was called, but correct me if I'm wrong. I've
changed it in debian/rules and it seems to be ok now. Diff attached.

Combined changelog entries and updated the timestamp.

Uploaded to
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/w/webcpp/webcpp_0.8.4-6.dsc,
if you have chance to take a look.

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--- rules~	2008-11-26 20:21:13.0 +
+++ rules	2008-11-26 19:40:18.0 +
@@ -31,7 +31,8 @@
 	dh build
 	touch $@
 
-clean: unpatch
+distclean: unpatch
+clean:
 	-rm -f config.sub config.guess
 	[ ! -f Makefile ] || $(MAKE) distclean
 	dh $@


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Re: Re: RFS: xinha

2008-11-26 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hi,

2008/11/23 Mathieu Parent [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,


 Thanks for all your help

 2008/11/23 Raphael Geissert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[...]

 Build-Depends: debhelper (= 6.0.7~)

 what is that tilde doing there? (lintian should probably warn about it)
 the tilde is for eventual backports of debhelper (see
 http://lintian.debian.org/tags/debhelper-script-needs-versioned-build-depends.html).

 Cite: Giving the version followed by ~ is recommended so that
 backports will satisfy the dependency.

Yeah, Russ Allbery pointed that out in -mentors right after I sent the email.

[...]

 debian/uupdate-wrapper:

   | gzip  xinha_$version.orig.tar.gz
 use max compression (a.k.a -9)
 Done

But looks like you didn't re-compress the tarball using -9, please do.


 * better use the same file name as in $file (there should be no worries about
 replacing the file while reading from it because tar requires the whole 
 tarball
 to be available/read).
 Original tarbal is bzip2. that's why I rename it.

I missed that part, sorry.

[...]

 Regards

 Mathieu Parent


There are a couple of issues in xinha  itself that I will be reporting
later (security issues). Do you happen to have an email address of
upstream? I couldn't find it anywhere on the website.


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Re: BSD licenses

2008-11-26 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Thanks Jose
 3-clausule BSD is DFSG-compatible [0], there may be infinite
 BSD-licenses versions, just check they're DFSG-compatible by checking
 each of these points with the license. What you see different are just
 clausules the author adds and they may be restrictive at times... So if
 you're unsure email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [0]
 http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#head-85700b45e3e6dfe08d94e89b596be0e2a2
97c0c5
I had forgotten this clause. 

Anyway, even if the licenses aren't long it would be easier if they were 
standardised with well documented relations to the other licenses. A single 
word may change the meaning of the license and it is difficult to know the 
consequenses. 

Perhaps the Debian mentor list is not the correct place to discuss it. Excuse 
me if I'm off topic and thanks for the help.

Regards
Gudjon


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