Re: News about the mentors.debian.net transition to upgraded software

2011-08-13 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 04:50:42AM -0400, Asheesh Laroia wrote:
 As of Thu Aug 11 08:47:29 UTC 2011, mentors.debian.net now runs the
 Debexpo code.
 
 FTP upload should be working. There is a cron job that looks for
 FTP-based uploads every 30 minutes. This provides compatibility with
 the /etc/dput.cf that we ship with the dput package.

Aha, this explains why my last upload takes so long to appear on
mentors' website. What was the reason behind such a long interval?
Documentation on the website claims that the newly uploaded packages
should be available for downloads within 30 *seconds*.

 I do suggest using the HTTP-based upload instead (which the website
 explains).

I guess, the HTTP-based method does not have this absurd 30 minutes
long delay... Trying to login and sort things out...

BTW, do I understand right that its impossible to login with https
anymore?

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Re: News about the mentors.debian.net transition to upgraded software

2011-08-13 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 01:48:31PM +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
 I guess, the HTTP-based method does not have this absurd 30 minutes
 long delay... Trying to login and sort things out...

Noticed one more thing on the page with the information about the
uploaded package (look below for the text marked with  ):


Information

Version:0.6-1 (View RFS template) 
Uploaded:2011-08-13 10:01:17.454471
Source package:http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/kbdd/kbdd_0.6-1.dsc

Section:x11
Priority:extra
Closes bugs:636262 
^^

QA information

Info:The watch file works
Info:/home/expo/data/live/incoming/kbdd_0.6-1_i386.changes
Info:kbdd_0.6-1.dsc
Info:Package is Lintian clean
Info:Package is not native
Info:The maintainer and uploader emails are the same
Info:Package is the latest upstream version
Info:A watch file is present
Error:636262
  ^^
Info:Homepage: https://github.com/qnikst/kbdd
Info:The diff.gz file is clean
Info:The package uses straight debhelper


I think using Error: in the QA informaion above is inappropriate.
It is a valid ITP available at http://bugs.debian.org/636262

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RFS: kbdd

2011-08-13 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package kbdd.

* Package name: kbdd
  Version : 0.6
  Upstream Author : Alexander V. Vershilov alexander.vershi...@gmail.com
* URL : https://github.com/qnikst/kbdd
* License : GPL 2 or later
  Programming Lang: C
  Description : Per-window keyboard layout switching daemon for X

Long description:

 KBDD stands for keyboard daemon. It is a simple keyboard layout
 switching program, which is designed to run in an X11 session and
 remember keyboard layouts on a per-window basis. That can be very
 handy for a user of a non-US keyboard who does not want to jump
 through layouts back and forth while typing in terminals (mostly in
 latin) and some kind of chat (in native language). Another useful
 thing about KBDD is its D-Bus notification support — it can emit
 signals on layout change, thus, making it possible to create layout
 indicator widgets in such window managers as awesome, for example.
 
 Users of popular desktop environments such as GNOME or KDE most
 likely do not need this package, as a similar functionality should
 be already available within their environment. This package may be
 of interest, however, for the users of tiling or dynamic window
 managers such as dwm or awesome. 

More notes:

 There are already similar programs within Debian:
 
 1) xxkb - Keyboard state indicator and switcher for xkb
This program does not work with nonreparenting window managers. 
 
 2) xkbind - X Keyboard Extension Indicator
This program has limitations regarding input focus change tracking
with some X toolkits.
 
 KBDD covers all these use cases.
 
To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/kbdd

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this
command:

  dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/kbdd/kbdd_0.6-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards,
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Downloading of test data

2011-08-13 Thread Antonio Valentino
Hi mentors,
I have a package (pyepr) that provides a small python extension written
in cython.
The upstream source includes a test suite that needs some data to be
downloaded from the internet (398K) using wget.
Note that data are only used for testing, they are not installed.

My question is: is it sane to download data at package build time?

And, in case, should wget be set as build-dependency?

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Re: Downloading of test data

2011-08-13 Thread David Paleino
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:09:57 +0200, Antonio Valentino wrote:

 My question is: is it sane to download data at package build time?

It's not possible, buildds don't have network access.

Kindly,
David

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Re: Downloading of test data

2011-08-13 Thread Antonio Valentino
Il 13/08/2011 13:24, David Paleino ha scritto:
 On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:09:57 +0200, Antonio Valentino wrote:
 
 My question is: is it sane to download data at package build time?
 
 It's not possible, buildds don't have network access.
 
 Kindly,
 David
 

OK, thanks David

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Re: Downloading of test data

2011-08-13 Thread Asheesh Laroia
Excerpts from Antonio Valentino's message of Sat Aug 13 07:09:57 -0400 2011:
 Hi mentors,
 I have a package (pyepr) that provides a small python extension written
 in cython.
 The upstream source includes a test suite that needs some data to be
 downloaded from the internet (398K) using wget.
 Note that data are only used for testing, they are not installed.

It's not particularly sane to download data at package build time. You
could package that data separately, and then build-depend on the test
data.

By depending on data from the Internet, it means that the package build
process isn't necessarily repeatable. It also means that a remote
party gets notified whenever Debian builds a package, or whenever any
individual rebuilds the package from source.

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Re: Downloading of test data

2011-08-13 Thread Ben Finney
Antonio Valentino antonio.valent...@tiscali.it writes:

 The upstream source includes a test suite that needs some data to be
 downloaded from the internet (398K) using wget. Note that data are
 only used for testing, they are not installed.

Downloading data to run automated code tests? That seems a bit silly,
but I suppose they have their reasons.

For the purpose of a Debian package, you can choose either to not run
the tests, or to treat the test data as part of the source and include
it as one of several source tarballs.

 My question is: is it sane to download data at package build time?

I think not.

 And, in case, should wget be set as build-dependency?

No, the automated tests should ideally be self-contained: they should
not rely on network access, only on the build dependencies and the
source package.

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Re: Downloading of test data

2011-08-13 Thread Gergely Nagy
Asheesh Laroia li...@asheesh.org writes:

 Excerpts from Antonio Valentino's message of Sat Aug 13 07:09:57 -0400 2011:
 Hi mentors,
 I have a package (pyepr) that provides a small python extension written
 in cython.
 The upstream source includes a test suite that needs some data to be
 downloaded from the internet (398K) using wget.
 Note that data are only used for testing, they are not installed.

 It's not particularly sane to download data at package build time. You
 could package that data separately, and then build-depend on the test
 data.

Another option is to package up the test data as a
pyepr_$version.orig-testdata.tar.gz, and with a 3.0 source format,
that'll be part of the source package, will get unpacked by dpkg-source
into pyepr-$version/testdata/ and so on and so forth.

I'd recommend doing this instead of introducing a separate package to
build-depend on.

Doing this also has an advantage over repacking the upstream sources to
include the test data: you don't need to repack.

(For an example of a very simple package that uses multiple upstream
tarballs, see git-flow)

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RFS: vnstat -- console-based network traffic monitor

2011-08-13 Thread Armin Ranjbar
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package vnstat.

* Package name: vnstat
 Version : 1.11-1
* URL : http://humdi.net/vnstat/
* License : GPL 2 or later
 Description : console-based network traffic monitor

Long description:
 vnStat is a network traffic monitor for Linux. It keeps a log of
 daily network traffic for the selected interface(s). vnStat is not
 a packet sniffer. The traffic information is analyzed from the /proc
 filesystem, so vnStat can be used without root permissions.


package is hosted at mentors:
http://mentors.debian.net/package/vnstat
package is build-able and is lintian clean.

vnstat is heavily used among users and administrator, wnpp reports up to 2983
installs.


Re: RFS: vnstat -- console-based network traffic monitor

2011-08-13 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:18:09 +0430
Armin Ranjbar z...@zoup.org wrote:

 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package vnstat.
 
But vnstat is already present:
apt-cache showpkg vnstat
Package: vnstat
Versions: 
1.11-1
(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
Description Language:
File: 
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-amd64_Packages
MD5: 08af52ede864e5ad37a762d616520683


Reverse Depends: 
  vnstati,vnstat 1.11-1
Dependencies: 
1.11-1 - libc6 (2 2.7) vnstati (0 (null)) 
Provides: 
1.11-1 - 
Reverse Provides: 

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Re: News about the mentors.debian.net transition to upgraded software

2011-08-13 Thread Alessandro Ghedini
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 02:12:53PM +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 01:48:31PM +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
  I guess, the HTTP-based method does not have this absurd 30 minutes
  long delay... Trying to login and sort things out...
 
 Noticed one more thing on the page with the information about the
 uploaded package (look below for the text marked with  ):
 
 
 Information
 
 Version:0.6-1 (View RFS template) 
 Uploaded:2011-08-13 10:01:17.454471
 Source 
 package:http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/kbdd/kbdd_0.6-1.dsc
 
 Section:x11
 Priority:extra
 Closes bugs:636262 
 ^^
 
 QA information
 
 Info:The watch file works
 Info:/home/expo/data/live/incoming/kbdd_0.6-1_i386.changes
 Info:kbdd_0.6-1.dsc
 Info:Package is Lintian clean
 Info:Package is not native
 Info:The maintainer and uploader emails are the same
 Info:Package is the latest upstream version
 Info:A watch file is present
 Error:636262
   ^^
 Info:Homepage: https://github.com/qnikst/kbdd
 Info:The diff.gz file is clean
 Info:The package uses straight debhelper
 
 
 I think using Error: in the QA informaion above is inappropriate.
 It is a valid ITP available at http://bugs.debian.org/636262

I get that too, for whathever bug the upload closes.

Another problem I see, is that if I upload a package (with the same version)
twice, the second upload gets ignored. Even if I delete the package, and 
then re-upload it, I see only the first upload. The old mentors updated the
package anyway, without requiring me to change its version.

Anyway, thanks to everybody involved in the debexpo development and 
migration.

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Re: RFS: vnstat -- console-based network traffic monitor

2011-08-13 Thread Leo costela Antunes
On 13/08/11 15:03, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
 But vnstat is already present:

But it's maintained by the QA team, so maybe an adoption would be in order?


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Re: RFS: vnstat -- console-based network traffic monitor

2011-08-13 Thread Armin Ranjbar
indeed, this is my ITA:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=637639


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Leo costela Antunes
cost...@debian.orgwrote:

 On 13/08/11 15:03, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
  But vnstat is already present:

 But it's maintained by the QA team, so maybe an adoption would be in order?


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Re: RFS: vnstat -- console-based network traffic monitor

2011-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Armin,

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 06:52:53PM +0430, Armin Ranjbar wrote:
 indeed, this is my ITA:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=637639

but in that case you cannot adopt the package with the same version that's
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Re: Please advice about symbols versioning (was Re: How to close bug #620550?

2011-08-13 Thread Satoru KURASHIKI
hi,

Thanks for your comment.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Keith Lawson ke...@nowhere.ca wrote:
 Don't use libqdbm15. Upstream might (and probably will!) use such SONAME
 for their own purposes in the future.

 Are there actually any packages in Debian using gdbm symbols provided by
 libqdbm? If there are none, I'd just drop the symbols without changing
 package name or SONAME, and wouldn't bother creating a separate package.

I tried to check this (with apt-rdepends -r and apt-source and grep...), and
I think that no debian package use qdbm's gdbm emulation.
(There is no include hovel.h.)

 Won't that break PHP code if people are using GDBM in their applications?
 Even if Debian packages don't use GDBM there's no guarantee that people's
 applications don't. How can you provide GDBM in PHP without linking against
 GDBM and removing the GDBM symbols from QDBM which libphp5.so is linked
 against?

I guess there is no PHP code which using GDBM code. If there is, they
had falled into troubles after php switched to link from gdbm to qdbm, because
PHP source package also doesn't include hovel.h.

I think that I should care the people who has been using qdbm and gdbm interface
for their published/non-published programs.
(provide alternative package, only notice, and so on..)

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Re: Downloading of test data

2011-08-13 Thread Antonio Valentino
Hi guys,

thank you for all your answers

Il 13/08/2011 13:09, Antonio Valentino ha scritto:
 Hi mentors,
 I have a package (pyepr) that provides a small python extension written
 in cython.
 The upstream source includes a test suite that needs some data to be
 downloaded from the internet (398K) using wget.
 Note that data are only used for testing, they are not installed.
 
 My question is: is it sane to download data at package build time?
 
 And, in case, should wget be set as build-dependency?
 
 Thanks

The dataset needed for automatic testing in a satellite image.
It is part of a sample/demo dataset provided by the European Space Agency.
Although data are available for free download I don't know if
re-distribution is allowed and in which terms.

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Re: News about the mentors.debian.net transition to upgraded software

2011-08-13 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 03:18:06PM +0200, Alessandro Ghedini wrote:
 Another problem I see, is that if I upload a package (with the same version)
 twice, the second upload gets ignored. Even if I delete the package, and 
 then re-upload it, I see only the first upload. The old mentors updated the
 package anyway, without requiring me to change its version.

I can confirm this bug. Today, I first uploaded kbdd package through ftp.
Then, after my upload was processed in next 30 mins, I noticed a
lintian warning about an outdated Standards-Version (it was 3.9.1). I
deleted the package through the web interface, updated the
Standards-Version to 3.9.2 in the package (it was the only change) and
reuploded the package using 'dput -f' with http. The new package was
processed in the system, and there was no lintian warnings anymore,
however, as I just checked, the link

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/kbdd/kbdd_0.6-1.dsc

still points to old package!

Seems like the transition to the new system was done in a hurry...

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Re: RFS: kbdd

2011-08-13 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 02:42:52PM +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote:
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package kbdd.

[skipped]

The package was deleted from mentors.debian.net, and will be
reuploaded after debexpo bug [1] gets fixed (please, do it quick!).

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2011/08/msg00311.html

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RFS: gnome-split

2011-08-13 Thread Guillaume Mazoyer
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package gnome-split.

 * Package name: gnome-split
   Version : 1.1-1
   Upstream Author : Me (Guillaume Mazoyer)
 * URL : http://gnome-split.org/
 * License : GPLv3
   Section : gnome

To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/gnome-split

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this
command:

  dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-split/gnome-split_1.1-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.
This package provides the latest version of GNOME Split which is the
only one that can be build with java-gnome 4.1.1 which is already in
sid.

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Re: RFS: libchart-php

2011-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Daniel,

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 11:05:52PM +0200, Daniel Lombraña González wrote:
 Would you mind to check again the package ;) I hope this time is almost done
 :)

Sorry for taking so long to have another look. Your debian/watch file still
has some issue in finding the latest version. It grabs a file detail for
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Re: RFS: Sitplus -- Free software framework for ludic-therapeutic activities

2011-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Luis,

On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 03:09:34AM +0200, Luis Rivas wrote:
[...]
 I've re-uploaded the latest sitplus source package to
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/sitplus/
 
 It is lintian --pedantic clean except for a binary-without-manpage
 warning. Please let me know if you need something else.

Sorry to ask you to put another version up onto the now new mentors.d.n but
obviously the migration has eaten your package.

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Re: Sponsor for accessibility packages

2011-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Jean-Philippe,

On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 02:22:48AM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
 Actually I uploaded on http://demo.accelibreinfo.eu a edbrowse.tar.bz2
 which contains the whole package: .dsc, .orig, .debian.tar.gz, etc.
 You'll have the same things (a .dsc, a .orig.tar.gz, a .debian.tar.gz)
 in speechd-up2.tar.gz and speakup-tools.tar.gz for these packages.
 Sorry, I didn't put .dsc directly because I have bad conditions now to
 connect to the Internet. Besides it would create some mess on the
 repository I think.

Thanks for working on the package. I've just had a look at your edbrowse
package. This looks very intrusive for an NMU. IMHO too much intrusive. Is
there any public discussion with the current maintainer? What does he think
about this?

For future posts to this list I'd recommend putting the source upload
directly available either on mentors.debian.net or on your own web server.
The wrapped up tar.bz2 including source and binary is not very handy to
review.

Anyway, if an NMU would be required, please post the statement of the
current maintainer to go ahead and keep changes minimal. Or become new
uploader of the package and comment more verbose all the different changes
you introduce.

N.b. if you're NMUing you should not use the regular -1 version suffix.

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Re: RFS: gnome-split

2011-08-13 Thread Kilian Krause
Hi Guillaume,

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 09:08:31PM +0200, Guillaume Mazoyer wrote:
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package gnome-split.
   dget -x 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-split/gnome-split_1.1-1.dsc

Thanks for your work.

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RFS: bmake -- NetBSD make

2011-08-13 Thread Andrew O. Shadoura
Hello,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package 'bmake'.

* Package name: bmake
  Version : 20110622-1
  Upstream Author : Simon J. Gerraty s...@void.crufty.net
* URL : http://www.crufty.net/help/sjg/bmake.htm
* License : BSD
  Section : devel

It builds this binary package:
bmake - NetBSD make

The upload would fix these bugs: #476267, #627983.

The original packaging was done by NetBSD developer Aleksey Cheusov.
Together with Jeroen Schot we're working on this package maintainance.

This package is important as pmake that's currently in Debian is too
old and obsolete, and bmake's absense is preventing some software from
entering Debian.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/package/bmake
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main 
contrib non-free
- dget http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/b/bmake/bmake_20110622-1.dsc

Also, it's kept under version control here:
http://anonscm.debian.org/hg/collab-maint/bmake

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

-- 
WBR, Andrew


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Re: Sponsor for accessibility packages

2011-08-13 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Hi,

Le samedi 13 août 2011 à 23:05 +0200, Kilian Krause a écrit :
 Hi Jean-Philippe,
 
 On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 02:22:48AM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
  Actually I uploaded on http://demo.accelibreinfo.eu a edbrowse.tar.bz2
  which contains the whole package: .dsc, .orig, .debian.tar.gz, etc.
  You'll have the same things (a .dsc, a .orig.tar.gz, a .debian.tar.gz)
  in speechd-up2.tar.gz and speakup-tools.tar.gz for these packages.
  Sorry, I didn't put .dsc directly because I have bad conditions now to
  connect to the Internet. Besides it would create some mess on the
  repository I think.
 
 Thanks for working on the package. I've just had a look at your edbrowse
 package. This looks very intrusive for an NMU. IMHO too much intrusive. Is
 there any public discussion with the current maintainer? What does he think
 about this?

The current maintainer doesn't say anything. He's not said anything for a very 
long time. You can see:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2011/05/msg00059.html

He didn't react to this bug: 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=598162

bug reported on 2010, without any answer. I answered on 2011, July, no answer. 
Actually I'm alone to make this bug live, so I tend to think the maintainer has 
disappeared as he must have been notified of all these messages (from BTS and 
from the mailing list). Moreover there was a request from an user, twice.


 For future posts to this list I'd recommend putting the source upload
 directly available either on mentors.debian.net or on your own web server.
 The wrapped up tar.bz2 including source and binary is not very handy to
 review.

ah ok sorry. I couldn't understand well how to use mentors.debian.net, and I've 
problems to set and test the right permissions on my server when I do 
subdirectories. Would you have some full doc about mentors.debian.net? I mean: 
I've an account on alioth, should I create one on mentors.debian.net? Then 
uploading?

 
 Anyway, if an NMU would be required, please post the statement of the
 current maintainer to go ahead and keep changes minimal. Or become new
 uploader of the package and comment more verbose all the different changes
 you introduce.

To be honest I don't know real changes. I only update the package following 
what does upstream. I can show the changelog of source, but I don't know 
exactly what is done in the code as my skills in programming are very low. I 
know to package, but not very much more about programming, especially C. I can 
become new uploader but I guess there's a process. And I upgrade from a 
deprecated release to the last one, it implies to upgrade from a stable to a 
2-releases newer release.


 N.b. if you're NMUing you should not use the regular -1 version suffix.

I've not exactly understood this process too. Yes I do a NMU. But I don't know 
very good if I have to tell this in a more official way, how, ... I thought it 
was explicit via my changelog.debian and the bug I refer to. And the doc I 
found about NMU didn't say any specific tools or way to use the BTS to announce 
a NMU.

 Thanks!

Thanks for all your explanations and sorry but... I have some problems to 
understand the processes to become maintainer of this package, with all the 
rules. Thanks for your future explanations.

Regards,

-  
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

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