Re: RFS: xxxterm

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi,

[...]
 I've just uploaded a new package containing a rule that converts the icon
 into an xpm file.  It removes the lintian error, making the package lintian
 clean.  Here's the link to the package:
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xxxterm/xxxterm_1.518-1.dsc
 
[...]

Built, signed, and uploaded.

Thanks a lot for your work,
Michael



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Re: RFS: xxxterm

2011-09-05 Thread Luis Henriques
Hi Michael,

On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 11:28:48AM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
 [...]
 
 Built, signed, and uploaded.

Great!  Thank you

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Re: RFS: getstream

2011-09-05 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi!

Hervé Rousseau he...@moulticast.net writes:
 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 14:17, Christoph Egger christ...@debian.org wrote:
 The orig.tar.gz downloaded from the website differs from the orig.tar.gz
 in your package:

 1144dc0180cedb494f6c7826e994fc3bcf7eebe4 
 getstream_20100616.orig.tar.gz.website
 1e45acb2b75b6da9ecd446408f04dd2631c5f71f 
 getstream_20100616.orig.tar.gz.mentors

 Is there any reason for that?

 Hi !

 I guess I unpacked the archive and did some changes I forgot to
 reverse and start again from the original .tgz...
 I have re-uploaded the package on mentors.debian.net with the proper
 original archive from upstream's website.

  I'm mostly fine with uploading. However I'm wondering about the
licensing. I couldn't find any information about a license apart from a
single file that claims to be taken from the kernel and being GPLv2 (not
GPLv2 or later like in debian/copyright though that doesn't matter
probably as it was Public Domain before). Is there any claim hidden
somwhere that the rest of getstream is GPLv2?

Regards

Christoph

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Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Gilbert
Hi,

I've been thinking about how mentors works lately (after watching
Asheesh's debconf11 talk).  It seems like the 4 day response effort
worked somewhat well for a while, but kind of tailed off, and I've been
pondering what could be done instead that would have some staying power.

I've noticed that the release team has a lot of success addressing their
issues in a rather timely manner.  I think that this success comes from
the fact that they treat all of the items they need to accomplish as
bugs [0].  So, as requests get old, they notice that and do something
about it (or they just close it out if the submitter isn't responsive). 

Anyway, I think mentors could greatly benefit from a similar work flow.
So, I was wondering if there were any thoughts on setting up a
mentors.debian.net pseudo-package [1]?  It seems like all of the
existing ones are debian.org features, so I'm not sure if that would
require mentors becoming an official .org service first or not?

Anyway, I think this could be a really significant improvement to the
mentors culture.

Best wishes,
Mike

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RFS: roxterm (updated package)

2011-09-05 Thread Tony Houghton
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package roxterm.

 * Package name: roxterm
   Version : 2.1.1-1
   Upstream Author : Tony Houghton
 * URL : http://roxterm.sourceforge.net
 * License : GPL-3+
   Section : x11

It builds these binary packages:

 roxterm- Multi-tabbed GTK+/VTE terminal emulator
 roxterm-common - Multi-tabbed GTK+/VTE terminal emulator
 roxterm-gtk2 - Multi-tabbed GTK+/VTE terminal emulator
 roxterm-gtk3 - Multi-tabbed GTK+/VTE terminal emulator

To access further information about this package, please visit the following 
URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/roxterm

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

  dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/r/roxterm/roxterm_2.1.1-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards,

Tony Houghton


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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi Michael, hi all,

(keeping Don CC'ed)

[...]
 I've noticed that the release team has a lot of success addressing their
 issues in a rather timely manner.  I think that this success comes from
 the fact that they treat all of the items they need to accomplish as
 bugs [0].  So, as requests get old, they notice that and do something
 about it (or they just close it out if the submitter isn't responsive). 
 
[...]

I'm all for tracking RFS in some more formal way, it would quite a bit reduce
the load on my inbox (which I'm currently using for tracking).

There is one fundamental difference, however, to, e.g, the release team: there
is no *team*. Who are they in case of sponsoring? What makes the situation
worse is that the number of people filing RFS is unbounded, this process is open
to everyone (don't get me wrong, this is a good thing in general).

I don't think technical infrastructure alone will solve those problems. In fact,
mentors.debian.net would already have all the necessary infrastructure: packages
are uploaded there and hence tracked. It is possible to leave comments, and
maybe this whole RFS business should just move over to mentors.debian.net.

Oh, and with all this moaning about RFS not being dealt with in a timely manner:
true, we don't manage to get packages reviewed and sponsored within 4 days, but
is the situation really that bad at the moment? Are there any packages older
than one month still waiting for sponsorship?

Best,
Michael



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Re: RFS: cppcheck, new upstream version 1.50

2011-09-05 Thread Joachim Reichel
Hi,

On 08/31/2011 10:22 PM, Reijo Tomperi wrote:
  George Danchev wrote:
 On Monday, August 15, 2011 12:41:29 AM Reijo Tomperi wrote:
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/package/cppcheck

 Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this
 command:

 dget -x
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/c/cppcheck/cppcheck_1.50-1.dsc

 
 JFYI, also hinting co-sponsors :)
 I'll try to have a look in the coming days, unless someone did it
 before me.
 
 A couple of weeks has passed. Any progress with this?

uploaded, after a build failure in the first version was fixed.

Joachim


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RFS: libpam-tacplus

2011-09-05 Thread Jeroen Nijhof
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package libpam-tacplus.

 * Package name: libpam-tacplus
   Version : 1.3.5-1
   Upstream Author : Jeroen Nijhof jer...@nijhofnet.nl
 * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/tacplus
 * License : GPLv2
   Section : admin

It builds those binary packages:

libpam-tacplus - TACACS+ protocol client library and PAM module in C

To access further information about this package, please visit the
following URL:

  http://mentors.debian.net/package/libpam-tacplus

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

  dget -x
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/libp/libpam-tacplus/libpam-tacplus_1.3.5-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

With kind regards,
Jeroen Nijhof



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Packaging php app/scripts

2011-09-05 Thread kuLa
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Hi all,
I have simple app in php and would like to package it. Source is in git
(2 branches; upstream and debian, gbp.conf is pointing into these branches).
I used dh_make to debianised package, relevant packages has been edited.
When running git buildpackage final deb package is containing only docs
in usr/share/doc/[package] dir (dh_installdocs i surnning as meant).
When I'm trying to override_dh_install with dh_install --sourcedir=src
I'm still having:
cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/src/index.php': No such file or directory
My whole php app code is in src directory, so all files from this dir
should be copied into package and they aren't.
But package_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz created during build process is containing
all files I need.
Can anybody point me what should I change to achieve my goal?
Thx for any help in advance.
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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Jakub Wilk

* Michael Tautschnig m...@debian.org, 2011-09-05, 20:51:
I've noticed that the release team has a lot of success addressing 
their issues in a rather timely manner.  I think that this success 
comes from the fact that they treat all of the items they need to 
accomplish as bugs [0]. So, as requests get old, they notice that and 
do something about it (or they just close it out if the submitter 
isn't responsive).


This is not a new idea:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2002/08/msg00262.html

I'm all for tracking RFS in some more formal way, it would quite a bit 
reduce the load on my inbox (which I'm currently using for tracking).


Same here.

There is one fundamental difference, however, to, e.g, the release 
team: there is no *team*. Who are they in case of sponsoring? What 
makes the situation worse is that the number of people filing RFS is 
unbounded, this process is open to everyone (don't get me wrong, this 
is a good thing in general).


I don't think technical infrastructure alone will solve those problems.


Of course it won't, but that's not a reason not to think about 
improvements.


In fact, mentors.debian.net would already have all the necessary 
infrastructure: packages are uploaded there and hence tracked. It is 
possible to leave comments, and maybe this whole RFS business should 
just move over to mentors.debian.net.


I can't talk to debexpo using my MUA. This is a big no-go for me.

Oh, and with all this moaning about RFS not being dealt with in a 
timely manner: true, we don't manage to get packages reviewed and 
sponsored within 4 days, but is the situation really that bad at the 
moment? Are there any packages older than one month still waiting for 
sponsorship?


Probably dozens of them...

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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Chris Carr

On 05/09/2011 20:51, Michael Tautschnig wrote:

Oh, and with all this moaning about RFS not being dealt with in a timely manner:
true, we don't manage to get packages reviewed and sponsored within 4 days, but
is the situation really that bad at the moment? Are there any packages older
than one month still waiting for sponsorship?


I was going to reply to this and say that my angband-audio package has 
been waiting for six months (it was uploaded on 27 Feb) - but I went to 
check on it and I see it has disappeared! I did not receive any email 
about this - are old packages deleted from m.d.n after a certain time?


Not to worry, I'll re-upload it and make another RFS.

No moaning from me btw - I am sure there are many more RFSs than there 
are sponsors. I just wish it wasn't so hard to reach DM.


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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 20:51:47 +0100 Michael Tautschnig wrote:
 I'm all for tracking RFS in some more formal way, it would quite a bit reduce
 the load on my inbox (which I'm currently using for tracking).
 
 There is one fundamental difference, however, to, e.g, the release team: there
 is no *team*. Who are they in case of sponsoring? 

Well, perhaps its time to formalize that?  Let's make mentors a .org
and get the DPL to do some official appointments.  I'm willing to
volunteer for that (I'm only a DM now, but I've run into enough
limitations with my DM status lately that I'm starting to feel like I
should really be going for DD now).  Who else is willing to volunteer?

 What makes the situation
 worse is that the number of people filing RFS is unbounded, this process is 
 open
 to everyone (don't get me wrong, this is a good thing in general).

I agree, this is a very good thing.  I'm hoping this approach will make
supporting so many people a more tractable thing.

 I don't think technical infrastructure alone will solve those problems. In 
 fact,
 mentors.debian.net would already have all the necessary infrastructure: 
 packages
 are uploaded there and hence tracked. It is possible to leave comments, and
 maybe this whole RFS business should just move over to mentors.debian.net.

Yes, the new infrastructure really is an improvement, but it does have
some issues, which of course may be easily fixable with the current
framework.  For example, discussion on the mentor's package pages isn't
reproduced on the mentors ML and vice versa; as would be done with a
BTS package and associated mailing list. There is no email-based option
to the web interface.  Also, aestetically, the new mentors system
reproduces functionality already available via the bug system. Finally,
and maybe this is because the oldness only goes back to July now, there
isn't really as sense of what's old and thus a candidate to close out;
and even so it's not possible to close out other's packages (with an
option to reopen) like on the BTS.

Also, a very useful thing (I think) would be reportbug integration.
Thus submitters would be able to reference their existing ITP
submission and not have to re-enter the same information in their RFS
(this duplication has always irked me about the mentors process).

 Oh, and with all this moaning about RFS not being dealt with in a timely 
 manner:
 true, we don't manage to get packages reviewed and sponsored within 4 days, 
 but
 is the situation really that bad at the moment? 

I'm not trying to bemoan the situation; just trying to be proactive and
thoughtful about finding ways to make it better.

 Are there any packages older than one month still waiting for sponsorship?

You can see all of the packages currently in limbo at [0]; although
it's not currently possible to select only those older than a month
(although that too could probably be implemented relatively easily with
the new expo framework). I for example have a set of old packages
awaiting further review [1]. Admittedly a lot of those are back in my
court to fix some issues, and its my fault for forgetting about them;
although I feel like I would be less inclined to do that if they were
tracked as bugs and tagged with moreinfo (although then again something
similar could be implemented on mentors), and with someone poking me
every now and then saying this is really old and you haven't worked on
it, so we're going to close it.

So, anway it boils down to the fact that the BTS already has all of these
wonderful features, and mentors could get them, but if they're already
available why go though the duplicative process?  If I could choose, my 
approach would be to go the BTS route and better integrate the mentors
pages with that and vice versa.

Best wishes,
Mike

[0] http://mentors.debian.net/packages/index
[1] http://mentors.debian.net/packages/uploader/michael.s.gilbert%40gmail.com


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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 I was wondering if there were any thoughts on setting up a
 mentors.debian.net pseudo-package [1]?

The real question is whether a number of people who are responding to
RFS are willing to participate in a pseudopackage like that.

I personally don't have a problem with creating one (I expect it would
have debian-mentors@lists.debian.org as its maintainer, with
mentors.debian.org as the pseudopackage name) if there is significant
buy-in from people doing sponsoring that this would assist them in
finding and tracking packages that they are interested in sponsoring.
 

Don Armstrong

BTW: there's no need to keep me CC'ed, as I'm subscribed to -mentors
(and in general, ow...@bugs.debian.org is the right role address to
e-mail for these things.)

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Becoming DM [was: Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs]

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi,

[...]
 No moaning from me btw - I am sure there are many more RFSs than
 there are sponsors. I just wish it wasn't so hard to reach DM.
 
[...]

Could you please be more precise about that last bit? What exactly is hard about
becoming DM?

I really wish more people applied for DM. Sponsoring the same package more than
a few times makes little sense in most cases (there are exceptions, and I for
one are regularly sponsoring at least one such exception).

Best,
Michael




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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi,

[...]
 This is not a new idea:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2002/08/msg00262.html
 

Thanks a lot for the pointer, indeed this is an interesting read (well, the
technical part of that).

[...]
 
 I can't talk to debexpo using my MUA. This is a big no-go for me.
 

Fully agreed.

[...]

I'll continue in another subthread, just wanted to note those bits here.

Best,
Michael



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Re: Packaging php app/scripts

2011-09-05 Thread Igor Pashev
06.09.2011 00:44, kuLa пишет:
 Hi all,
 I have simple app in php and would like to package it. Source is in git
 (2 branches; upstream and debian, gbp.conf is pointing into these branches).
 I used dh_make to debianised package, relevant packages has been edited.
 When running git buildpackage final deb package is containing only docs
 in usr/share/doc/[package] dir (dh_installdocs i surnning as meant).
 When I'm trying to override_dh_install with dh_install --sourcedir=src
 I'm still having:
 cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/src/index.php': No such file or directory
 My whole php app code is in src directory, so all files from this dir
 should be copied into package and they aren't.
 But package_1.0.0.orig.tar.gz created during build process is containing
 all files I need.
 Can anybody point me what should I change to achieve my goal?
 Thx for any help in advance.

Would be nice if you show all files in ./debian
(and its content)


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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Arno Töll
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Hello everyone,
as I see this discussion going on, I think I should inform you about
some things going on on mentors.d.n right now:

* Asheesh and we are steadily improving features on Debexpo (the
software behind mentors.d.n). Its not finished yet, and misses some
features we would like to add.

* I was thinking to implement a debian-mentors - Debexpo bridge to
import comments made on the mailing list to Expo. There are some stub
functions available, if you are interested have a look to our devel
branch [1]. This is something to come in future. Basically I will grab
RFS comments made on the mailing list, and import them to the package
history on Debexpo. More advanced plans include to keep track of the
entire package history. If someone else is willing to assist me here:
any help is appreciated. That would not change the workflow for MUA fans
out there.

* As a result on the dc11 sponsorship BoF, I think, one of the most
useful additions to Expo would be sponsor metrics [2]. I prepared a
newsletter together with David Bremner which is in the pipeline and we
will probably send it out very soon, as I get my stuff on Expo regarding
that done.

* Lucas Nussbaum made a very interesting proposal to make a social
peer-to-peer review platform out of Debexpo. Basically his idea was to
have some karma / teams. Have a look to [3][4] get the idea.

* Debexpo did not lose packages being uploaded to the old Mentors
infrastructure before we switched. For technical reasons we don't have
the precise upload date and/or package description available. So I gave
those uploads a random legacy upload date. Besides they are fully
functional.

* We need more contributors to Debexpo. We have a lot of (wishlist)
bugs. Let me hear if anyone is interested to step in.


On 05.09.2011 23:09, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
 Could you please be more precise about that last bit? What exactly is hard 
 about
 becoming DM?

The fact, you won't find sponsors easily which makes it pretty hard to
find someone who advocates you. Here is more to come on the newsletter I
announced above.




[1]
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debexpo/debexpo.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/devel
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsNet#Metrics
[3]
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=313252group_id=100127atid=413115
[4]
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=313253group_id=100127atid=413115
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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 10:46:11PM +0200, Jakub Wilk a écrit :
 * Michael Tautschnig m...@debian.org, 2011-09-05, 20:51:
 I've noticed that the release team has a lot of success
 addressing their issues in a rather timely manner.  I think that
 this success comes from the fact that they treat all of the
 items they need to accomplish as bugs [0]. So, as requests get
 old, they notice that and do something about it (or they just
 close it out if the submitter isn't responsive).
 
 This is not a new idea:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2002/08/msg00262.html

And http://wiki.debian.org/PackageReview :)

By the way, I find it also a bit strange that while a lot of developement in
Debian is now done in version control systems, the paradigm of sponsoring is
still centered on source packages instead of checkouts…   This may also be one
reason why some RFS take some time to be transformed in uploads.

Have a nice day,

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Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan


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RFS: django-autoslug

2011-09-05 Thread Jocelyn Delalande

Dear mentors ( padawans) ,

First of all, as it's my initial post here ; so I just wanted to say Hi 
to you all, I hope we'll happy-hack together :-).
I'll mainly work with Python packaging, as it's a language I know well, 
love fairly. I use some nice pieces of python software missing just the 
deb packaging to hit the full awesomeness rank, sounds like a mission 
for me :-)


I am looking for a sponsor for my package django-autoslug.

* Package name : django-autoslug
Version : 1.4.1-1
Upstream Author: Andy Mikhailenko a...@neithere.net
* URL: http://bitbucket.org/neithere/django-autoslug/
* License: LGPL-3
Section : python

It builds those binary packages:

python-django-autoslug - Automated slug field for Django.

To access further information about this package, please visit the 
following URL:


http://mentors.debian.net/package/django-autoslug

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:

dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/django-autoslug/django-autoslug_1.4.1-1.dsc


I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.


I tried to stick to naming used with other django apps in debian.

My goal is to package snowy (http://live.gnome.org/Snowy ), a notes sync 
server. But first, I'll package its missing dependencies, which is a 
good thing cause packaging a django project seems a bit difficult for a 
first Debian package. So, python-django-autoslug is normaly the first of 
a serie of packages.
By the way, it's my first ever package submited to Debian, so it 
certainly contains some begginer-errors…



Best regards,

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Re: Tracking RFSs as bugs

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:46:11 +0200 Jakub Wilk wrote:
 This is not a new idea:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2002/08/msg00262.html

After reading through that old discussion, I conclude that the highly
confrontational approach chosen by Raphael at that time lead to people 
basically tuning him out, and eventually leading to the death of the 
idea.

That's unfortunate since that pursuit eliminated the BTS as a
solution for the past 9 years, which could have greatly improved the
mentors situation a long time ago.  Anyway that's all in the past, and
not worth worrying about anymore :)

So, the two quantified issues back then were that RFS bugs would be
large in number and that there would be BTS spam on the mentors ML.
Given that there are over 600,000 debian bugs now, I don't thing the
large number argument holds water any more.  As for BTS spam, I've
followed the debian-release ML for a long time, and have had no problem
basically ignoring it.  So I think the quantifiable/technical
opposition doesn't really exist anymore; although some of the
personalities that originally opposed the idea are still around.

Also, while I'm thinking about it, there really good benefits of
reportbug integration.  For example, scripts could be built to
automatically CC the relevant teams (i.e. games, java, etc.).  I see
this is also part of the debexpo plan [0].  Also, for example I help
with the security team, and it would be helpful to have a Security NMU
category that CC's the security team.  Also, an RC NMU category could
be created for RFSs fixing release-critical bugs (this would help
newbies contribute to the release process).   And of course the BTS
has MUA integration (also in the debexpo plan).

So, I feel like I could update reportbugs' debbugs.py script relatively
quickly to be able to support these things (given some free time, which
I should be able to find in the next couple weeks).  So, anyway, I'll
plan on looking into that.

[0] 
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=313253group_id=100127atid=413115

Best wishes,
Mike


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