Bug#696600: Sponsoring sun - schedule tasks at sunrise/set

2012-12-25 Thread Steffen Vogel
Hi Paul's :-)

Im very glad you want to sponsor my package!

Some more thoughts about an appropriate packagename:
I'm currently not clear about the future development of the sun tool.
There are several features which might extend the tool in future
releases:
- add muslimic prayer times: http://www.nabkal.de/namazrech.html
- add calculations for the sun position
- add calculations for sun eclipses

As I'm not willing to change the packagename, once its in the archive, I
think it's important the choose a suitable name which also covers these
new features.

Here are my proposals:

sun - fits calculations related to the planet sun

suncal - seems only to be correct for time/date related calculus.
Determination of the sun position in coordinates is not covered.

ephemeris - fits calculations for positions of arbitrary celestial
objects (sun, moon, planets, stars ..)

Regards,
  Steffen

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Re: Bug#696600: Sponsoring sun - schedule tasks at sunrise/set

2012-12-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 04:02:58PM +0100, Steffen Vogel wrote:
 As I'm not willing to change the packagename, once its in the archive, I
 think it's important the choose a suitable name which also covers these
 new features.
 
 Here are my proposals:
 
 sun - fits calculations related to the planet sun
 
 suncal - seems only to be correct for time/date related calculus.
 Determination of the sun position in coordinates is not covered.
 
 ephemeris - fits calculations for positions of arbitrary celestial
 objects (sun, moon, planets, stars ..)

I'd say, let's try insisting on the name sun for a bit, for reasons I
mentioned earlier.  It's short and sweet, you have a legitimate stake for
it, and contrary to appearances, the FTPmasters are not evil.

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Bug#696600: Sponsoring sun - schedule tasks at sunrise/set

2012-12-25 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:02:58 +0100, Steffen Vogel wrote:

 Here are my proposals:
 
 sun - fits calculations related to the planet sun
 
 suncal - seems only to be correct for time/date related calculus.
 Determination of the sun position in coordinates is not covered.

Depends on if you expand cal to calendar or calculation(s) :)
(Maybe suncalc would be clearer for the latter.)
 
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Bug#696600: Sponsoring sun - schedule tasks at sunrise/set

2012-12-25 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 05:27:28PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
 On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:02:58 +0100, Steffen Vogel wrote:
 
  Here are my proposals:
  
  sun - fits calculations related to the planet sun
  
  suncal - seems only to be correct for time/date related calculus.
  Determination of the sun position in coordinates is not covered.
 
 Depends on if you expand cal to calendar or calculation(s) :)
 (Maybe suncalc would be clearer for the latter.)

A agree, suncal isn't bad, but what's neat about sun is how the command
invocation flows:

$ sun rise $FOO
$ sun set $FOO

So, my money is on atsun just do to:

$ atsun rise $FOO
$ atsun set $FOO

Or, see if you can barter with the FTP folks to keep `sun'

  
 Cheers,
 gregor
  
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Bug#696600: Sponsoring sun - schedule tasks at sunrise/set

2012-12-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Paul,

you may also sponsor the package if you want to. I am still busy with
kismet :).

Cheers,

Adrian

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Bug#696600: Sponsoring sun - schedule tasks at sunrise/set

2012-12-25 Thread Steffen Vogel
Am Dienstag, den 25.12.2012, 11:35 -0500 schrieb Paul Tagliamonte:
 Or, see if you can barter with the FTP folks to keep `sun'

Jup, I agree. I think, we should just try to get 'sun' into the
archives. It's still worth the try, than continue discussing... ;-)

If the name gets rejected, we could even choose between:
- suncal
- atsun
- suncalc

  suncal - seems only to be correct for time/date related calculus.
  Determination of the sun position in coordinates is not covered. 
  Depends on if you expand cal to calendar or calculation(s) :)
  (Maybe suncalc would be clearer for the latter.)
 A agree, suncal isn't bad, but what's neat about sun is how the
command
 invocation flows:
 
I would prefer 'suncalc'. Just to keep more options open.

Regards,
  Steffen
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