RE: Cavalry
Hi. You guys say that my app. won't be very useful, why is that? It provides a good way for people with low-quality connections to access remote data. Thanks, Misha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1314772827.6326.1.camel@mitty
Re: Cavalry
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 08:40:27AM +0200, Misha Strong wrote: You guys say that my app. won't be very useful, why is that? It provides a good way for people with low-quality connections to access remote data. It's hard to say anything specific without seeing the source. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Cavalry
Noone said that your package is not very useful. Debian provides an enormous set of packages. Therefore, the people here would like to see what your package has to to offer in addition to what is available in Debian already. You have to convince them of the usefulness of your package. * Explain how your package provides a good way for people with low-quality connections to access remote data * Convince the people here that there is no other package package providing the same features yet If you don't there will be litttle chance that your package will be included indeed. And indeed, if you do not provide any source code it will not be very useful to talk about anything your package does. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 08:40:27AM +0200, Misha Strong wrote: You guys say that my app. won't be very useful, why is that? It provides a good way for people with low-quality connections to access remote data. It's hard to say anything specific without seeing the source. -- WBR, wRAR -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/camtvz+s6xuqfvi4pmsgejrmfdavya5petcsgfbqnrl6oucs...@mail.gmail.com
RE: Cavalry
OK, I'll try get the src together. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1314788775.8067.0.camel@mitty
Re: Cavalry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Misha, On 31.08.2011 13:06, Misha Strong wrote: OK, I'll try get the src together. - From your ITP: * Package name: cavalry Version : 1.15.0 ... * License : GPL That's not an optional step. Presuming you give out binary copies of your program licensed under the terms of the General Public License, everyone must be allowed to access your source code. However, as far as my knowledge goes, nobody saw a binary code copy either. Hence you are technically not violating the GPL (yet). Please note, for Debian the source availability is a crucial requirement [1], unless you target our non-free repository which is not part of Debian, technically speaking. [1] http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines - -- with kind regards, Arno Töll IRC: daemonkeeper on Freenode/OFTC GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOXh4DAAoJEMcrUe6dgPNt6gAQALrUxtgnDqe/oco/coW9eA9d Hr/Y8T+2H2m7SoL7bweiEFuaMbrnAiyH1sBgm/wTQG3/QRhkRfLqING6JOZIOn5W Dikl1hkVpdERB/lbLXxUm2XFRLHxt72bTwN5ZvodzMOLyFMThocTkZpg5z6xJQUq 1zSaq8NMu2B1M0nWovT0ek9mXibISf6I8+C5RewWbbFN2bOKh+OOgWL7WWRgZ5r0 rxEYcDs+5KBFKBpO0oaI6d4nTOxArd9M8Awdzn2YP0ljtEsd1+2HkAfEuExkanBZ /quHzCADzDtkf5CXBEPnNO6e1U2Us5Qg7xXU5WLZoamllIQrpn/HvJL5OeIAJ3f9 mq8mXqThqUoBSNCzHYCU+OiI3FpQNNvWU8D18ZTh8lHUDCwpz0pEetSHzVXMPbGD ux42b3FsGADk9kd48ELxasdCFynJEK39O/BHy4YHkn8keTwh/WJxUQkAOzsb6qji N+tWilDrBrmdEYXHXdhj1kxyeVv7IbE4KGjV1Y26EVY6HIKv+TrIcgGB4rgR+lWu hikNtLoBiulP+F5JK/nh6V7IDCuhwyufvBX9831a7eQD3F/z6pleumPzc1xM8SW5 KxlUhlG+/2+uarzD9HAuuxRuvSbvYXcVkVv8n4SJQQVbaboKjg0Rwy70+c1RLufb jqZRrOZGN/0qv7D3zXV7 =8pv8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e5e1e04.3060...@toell.net
Re: Cavalry
* Arno Töll deb...@toell.net, 2011-08-31, 13:41: From your ITP: * Package name: cavalry Version : 1.15.0 ... * License : GPL That's not an optional step. Presuming you give out binary copies of your program licensed under the terms of the General Public License, everyone must be allowed to access your source code. However, as far as my knowledge goes, nobody saw a binary code copy either. Hence you are technically not violating the GPL (yet). Quoting http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DeveloperViolate: Strictly speaking, the GPL is a license from the developer for others to use, distribute and change the program. The developer itself is not bound by it, so no matter what the developer does, this is not a “violation” of the GPL. However, if the developer does something that would violate the GPL if done by someone else, the developer will surely lose moral standing in the community. -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110831120051.ga9...@jwilk.net
Cavalry
Hi. I've just written my own program, and I'd like it added to your distro. Cavalry: synchronize documents with an FTP server. [Input] This program takes the name of a folder on your system, and recursively scans all OpenOffice and MS-Word documents within it. It also includes any ASCII-text files available. [Processing] Then the daemon checks file access times, and also looks for changes to their data. As necessary, they are copied to the server: [Output] The IP address or DNS of an existing FTP server is read from the config file. In an efficient and reliable manner, all data are transferred to same. Finally, the entire process is repeated with your remote server as [Input], and your own hard drive as [Output] -- basically in reverse. Thank, Misha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1314630199.1924.12.camel@mitty
Re: Cavalry
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 05:03:19PM +0200, Misha Strong wrote: I've just written my own program, and I'd like it added to your distro. I've already filed two ITPs: #637761, #639366. That means that you are going to make a Debian package for this software. If that is true, did you make the package? Cavalry: synchronize documents with an FTP server. [Input] This program takes the name of a folder on your system, and recursively scans all OpenOffice and MS-Word documents within it. It also includes any ASCII-text files available. [Processing] Then the daemon checks file access times, and also looks for changes to their data. As necessary, they are copied to the server: [Output] The IP address or DNS of an existing FTP server is read from the config file. In an efficient and reliable manner, all data are transferred to same. Finally, the entire process is repeated with your remote server as [Input], and your own hard drive as [Output] -- basically in reverse. I'm not going to comment on usability or usefulness of the software, but both these things are questionable. Also, the software has no homepage, no source and no description outside the ITPs and this email. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Cavalry
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 09:41:08PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 05:03:19PM +0200, Misha Strong wrote: I've just written my own program, and I'd like it added to your distro. I've already filed two ITPs: #637761, #639366. I meant you've. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Cavalry
Misha Strong misha.str...@mweb.co.za writes: I've just written my own program, and I'd like it added to your distro. Thank you for your interest in contributing to Debian. The best way to ask for a package to be added to Debian is by filing a “request for package” (RFP) bug report against the ‘wnpp’ package URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/, as a central point to discuss the package's suitability for Debian. The request doesn't make anything happen, though. Adding a work to Debian is done through the efforts of some person who will create and advocate for the Debian package and take responsibility for maintaining the package in Debian. Are you that person? You may want to read the Debian development documentation at URL:http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals for more on the work expected of contributors to Debian. -- \ “We spend the first twelve months of our children's lives | `\ teaching them to walk and talk and the next twelve years | _o__) telling them to sit down and shut up.” —Phyllis Diller | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871uw4te2b@benfinney.id.au
