Re: How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-05 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 06:39:01AM -0800, varun_shrivastava wrote:
 Justin Pryzby-43 wrote:
  
  On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 08:13:22AM -0700, varun_shrivastava wrote:
  You could have libinput0-debug provides:libinput0.
  
  However I still think the best way is to compile with debugging
  symbols and move the symbols to separate files in /usr/lib/debug and
  separate -dbg package which is *just* the debugging syms.
 
 thanks for reply
 
 do i have to make changes in Makefile or some thing else
 please can you provide me some links or documents on how to separate debug
 symbols from main library
I already referenced the source:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2007/11/msg00012.html


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Re: How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-05 Thread varun_shrivastava



Justin Pryzby-43 wrote:
 
 On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 08:13:22AM -0700, varun_shrivastava wrote:
 You could have libinput0-debug provides:libinput0.
 
 However I still think the best way is to compile with debugging
 symbols and move the symbols to separate files in /usr/lib/debug and
 separate -dbg package which is *just* the debugging syms.
 
 Justin
 

thanks for reply

do i have to make changes in Makefile or some thing else
please can you provide me some links or documents on how to separate debug
symbols from main library

thanks 
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Re: How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-02 Thread varun_shrivastava


Justin Pryzby-43 wrote:
 
 
 Do you mean it adds stuff within a #ifdef to use SDL?  Why is it so
 huge?
 
 
 
yes it adds code not so huge under #ifdef SDL_ENABLE ... #endif

Can we provide a virtual package libinput-virtual  on which the applications
will depend and the virtual package can be libinput0 or libinput0-debug
depending on what is installed

thanks
varun
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Re: How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-02 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 08:13:22AM -0700, varun_shrivastava wrote:
 Justin Pryzby-43 wrote:
  
  Do you mean it adds stuff within a #ifdef to use SDL?  Why is it so
  huge?
  
 yes it adds code not so huge under #ifdef SDL_ENABLE ... #endif
 
 Can we provide a virtual package libinput-virtual  on which the applications
 will depend and the virtual package can be libinput0 or libinput0-debug
 depending on what is installed
You could have libinput0-debug provides:libinput0.

However I still think the best way is to compile with debugging
symbols and move the symbols to separate files in /usr/lib/debug and
separate -dbg package which is *just* the debugging syms.

Justin


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Re: How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-02 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 09:42:33PM -0700, varun_shrivastava wrote:
 
 hi
 actually the library uses g_log kind of debugging technique ie some #defines
 are there, so when log is enabled #defines get replaced by g_log(***), and
 when its disabled #defines get replaced by (void)0 
 
 But i have a bigger problem thats the library has one more option of
 --enable-sdl=yes/no , I checked the source code and enabling it adds a huge
 amount of code to standard library.
Do you mean it adds stuff within a #ifdef to use SDL?  Why is it so
huge?

Or do you mean it compiles a static copy of SDL?  Don't do this; use a
{build,}dep on the shared library package instead.


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How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-01 Thread varun_shrivastava

hi
i have a library and want to package it 
But it has a configuration option as --enable-debug=yes/no

So i need to make 2 packages as

1) libinput0
2) libinput0-debug

So now if an application uses libinput, how the $(shlibs:Depends) variable
get substituted, during application package being built. Because dpkg will
automatically determine and substitute the variable according to which one
of the above two lib packages are installed, at the time of application
package being built.

The application must work with any of  the above packages

should i manually write libinput0 | libinput0-debug in Depends field.
Or is there a some other way to do it.

thanks and regards
varun 
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Re: How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-01 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:57:19AM -0700, varun_shrivastava wrote:
 
 hi
 i have a library and want to package it 
 But it has a configuration option as --enable-debug=yes/no
 
 So i need to make 2 packages as
 
 1) libinput0
 2) libinput0-debug
I think the recommended way to do this [0] is to build with debugging
symbols then move the debugging symbols to a separate file, and
associate the dbg files with the normal runtime files.

Justin

[0] see the developers' references and at least one bug against such.


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Re: How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:57:19AM -0700, varun_shrivastava wrote:
 i have a library and want to package it 
 But it has a configuration option as --enable-debug=yes/no
 
 So i need to make 2 packages as
 
 1) libinput0
 2) libinput0-debug
 
 So now if an application uses libinput, how the $(shlibs:Depends) variable
 get substituted, during application package being built. Because dpkg will
 automatically determine and substitute the variable according to which one
 of the above two lib packages are installed, at the time of application
 package being built.

It won't be a problem, because the -dbg package (the standard suffix isn't
-debug) doesn't have full copies of the library, just the debugging symbols.

The only place where you could run into trouble would be if --enable-debug
for this package doesn't just enable -g -O0 and disable stripping, but
instead actually modifies the source to be compiled (such as adding
fprintf(stderr, DEBUG: Got here\n) throughout the source, or something
else similarly irritating).

If that's the case, then you've got a real problem, as I can't think of a
really good solution to that.  I suspect the best solution there is going to
be to have the regular library and the -dbg library *conflict* with each
other, and have the -dev package depend on only the non-dbg version, so
anyone who's building against the library is guaranteed to only have the
non-dbg version installed.  That is, however, unbelievably ugly, and largely
defeats the purpose of having a -dbg version of the library, because the
people who are going to want the debugging-enabled library are the people
who are linking against the library...

I would suggest working out exactly what --enable-debug does to the library
build process, and changing anything that isn't symbol related to be
run-time rather than build-time configured (so enabling any fprintf(stderr,
DEBUG: ) with an environment variable rather than #ifdef), and then the
problem reverts to the standard strip symbols, stick symbols in -dbg
package method.

- Matt


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Re: How a package will determine the dependencies

2007-11-01 Thread varun_shrivastava

hi
actually the library uses g_log kind of debugging technique ie some #defines
are there, so when log is enabled #defines get replaced by g_log(***), and
when its disabled #defines get replaced by (void)0 

But i have a bigger problem thats the library has one more option of
--enable-sdl=yes/no , I checked the source code and enabling it adds a huge
amount of code to standard library.

What to do now?

thanks for your reply
varun
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