How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Emmanuel Kasper
I have uploaded a package on mentors.debian.net, and I got some review
of my package suggesting some modifications
(http://mentors.debian.net/package/vmtouch)

Now that I have done the suggested changes, should I rather:
A) delete the old package, upload a new one with same version number
(and lose the reviewing suggestions)

B) keep the old package online, upload a new one with same version
number (at the expense of some confusion in the mentors.debian.net page)

C) delete the old package, upload a new one with a new revision number
(even if the changes are minimal)

I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?

I know for instance NetBSD has an extra CVS repo called pkgsrc-wip where
all newbies can out their stuff before it's added to the real thing.
If not I can use github/gitorious.

Greetings
Emmanuel


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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Daniel Lintott
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On 26 February 2014 09:55:44 GMT+00:00, Emmanuel Kasper emman...@libera.cc 
wrote:
I have uploaded a package on mentors.debian.net, and I got some review
of my package suggesting some modifications
(http://mentors.debian.net/package/vmtouch)

Now that I have done the suggested changes, should I rather:
A) delete the old package, upload a new one with same version number
(and lose the reviewing suggestions)

B) keep the old package online, upload a new one with same version
number (at the expense of some confusion in the mentors.debian.net
page)

C) delete the old package, upload a new one with a new revision number
(even if the changes are minimal)


Leave the version number the same and upload to mentors again. The new package 
will appear above the old on the package page.

I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?

I know for instance NetBSD has an extra CVS repo called pkgsrc-wip
where
all newbies can out their stuff before it's added to the real thing.
If not I can use github/gitorious.


I believe you could use collab-maint but I have no experience with it myself.

As you say alternatively use github or similar, I have done that for 3 of my 
packages.

Using git will also allow you to use git-buildpackage. Details are in the 
wiki... But I don't have the link to hand.

Greetings
Emmanuel

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Regards

Daniel Lintott

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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Feb 26, 2014 10:56 AM, Emmanuel Kasper emman...@libera.cc wrote:
 I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
 VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
 work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?


Sure, but you need a DD to advocate you. See
https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/PackagingProject

 I know for instance NetBSD has an extra CVS repo called pkgsrc-wip where
 all newbies can out their stuff before it's added to the real thing.
 If not I can use github/gitorious.

Usually for a simple package should be used collab-maint project, and not
an external project.


Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Bertrand Marc
Le 26/02/2014 10:55, Emmanuel Kasper a écrit :
 Is it possibile to host the packaging
 work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?

You need to create a guest account on Alioth and then you will be able
to use a personal git repository [1].

Joining collab-maint is also an option, but it requires an advocate [2].

Cheers,
Bertrand

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#Using_personal_Git_repositories
[2] http://deb.li/3qmXG



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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:55:44AM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
 I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
 VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
 work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?
Yes, though you need a DD advocate to join collab-maint, see
http://deb.li/3qmXG (linked from
https://alioth.debian.org/projects/collab-maint )

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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Ross Gammon
On 02/26/2014 11:23 AM, Daniel Lintott wrote:
snip
 I have also read on the list that some mentors like to have a link to a
 VCS to review the pacaking work. Is it possibile to host the packaging
 work on alioth when you're not a Debian Developper ?
 
 I know for instance NetBSD has an extra CVS repo called pkgsrc-wip
 where
 all newbies can out their stuff before it's added to the real thing.
 If not I can use github/gitorious.
 
 
 I believe you could use collab-maint but I have no experience with it myself.
 
 As you say alternatively use github or similar, I have done that for 3 of my 
 packages.
 
 Using git will also allow you to use git-buildpackage. Details are in the 
 wiki... But I don't have the link to hand.
 
It is a good idea to use collab-maint as all Debian Developers have
access by default and can easily step in to help out when required, and
you can agree with others to co-maintain the package with you in case
you get busy etc.

You can read about collab-maint here:
https://wiki.debian.org/CollaborativeMaintenance

You will need your sponsor to write an email to allow the Alioth team to
approve your request to set up the repository. Details on the process
are here:
https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/PackagingProject

Regards,

Ross
 Greetings
 Emmanuel
 
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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Emmanuel Kasper
Le 26/02/2014 11:35, Bertrand Marc a écrit :
 Le 26/02/2014 10:55, Emmanuel Kasper a écrit :
 Is it possibile to host the packaging work on alioth when you're
 not a Debian Developper ?
 
 You need to create a guest account on Alioth and then you will be
 able to use a personal git repository [1].
 
 Joining collab-maint is also an option, but it requires an advocate
 [2].

OK tahnks for info, it seems  this rules out collab-maint, because if
my package is not yet in Debian, so I don't think I will find an
advocate. Collab-maint brings the following chicken and egg problem:

sponsored package wants to be in Debian - sponsored packages needs a
VCS url to be reviewed - VCS should be collab-maint for small
packages - access collab-maint should be avocated - advocate will
likely accept only if package is already in debian ...

But there are alternatives.

 Cheers, Bertrand
 
 [1]
 https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#Using_personal_Git_repositories 
 [2] http://deb.li/3qmXG
 


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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Ross Gammon
On 02/26/2014 12:03 PM, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
 Le 26/02/2014 11:35, Bertrand Marc a écrit :
 Le 26/02/2014 10:55, Emmanuel Kasper a écrit :
 Is it possibile to host the packaging work on alioth when you're
 not a Debian Developper ?

 You need to create a guest account on Alioth and then you will be
 able to use a personal git repository [1].

 Joining collab-maint is also an option, but it requires an advocate
 [2].
 
 OK tahnks for info, it seems  this rules out collab-maint, because if
 my package is not yet in Debian, so I don't think I will find an
 advocate. Collab-maint brings the following chicken and egg problem:
 
 sponsored package wants to be in Debian - sponsored packages needs a
 VCS url to be reviewed - VCS should be collab-maint for small
 packages - access collab-maint should be avocated - advocate will
 likely accept only if package is already in debian ...

No, you do not need a VCS url to get the package reviewed. You have done
the right thing and uploaded it to Mentors. When you find a sponsor and
they are happy with the package they can do the upload/release from
there. Then if they are happy to continue sponsoring the next versions
for you, they may prefer you to move it to collab-maint.

 
 But there are alternatives.
 
 Cheers, Bertrand

 [1]
 https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git#Using_personal_Git_repositories 
 [2] http://deb.li/3qmXG

 
 


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Re: How to deal with reviews in mentors.debian.net and repositories for new packaging work

2014-02-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:03:58PM +0100, Emmanuel Kasper wrote:
  advocate will likely accept only if package is already in debian ...
Not necessarily.

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