Re: How to deliver an binary file
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 09:51:49AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: If that's the case, what they distribute isn't free software — unless any recipient can get that source. Certainly, for it to be included in Debian, we need to distribute the *entire* corresponding source form of the work. Is this then justification for putting the sfd in the orig and repacking with a -dfsg suffix to the upstream version? -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to deliver an binary file
Hi there, i packaged typo3-src and had to add an source-file for a font that is used inside typo3. The file is a gzipped .sfd file and currently i handle this by repackaging the orig.tar.gz (my former sponsor wanted this). But my new sponsor thinks this should be added during package build. But this way the 88kb binary file would be in the diff.gz... What is the prefered way to handle this ? PS: i talked to upstream some time ago and they do not want to add this into their releases. So i have to handle this on my own. -- MfG, Christian Welzel GPG-Key: http://www.camlann.de/key.asc Fingerprint: 4F50 19BF 3346 36A6 CFA9 DBDC C268 6D24 70A1 AD15 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to deliver an binary file
OoO Pendant le temps de midi du dimanche 19 août 2007, vers 12:06, Christian Welzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: i packaged typo3-src and had to add an source-file for a font that is used inside typo3. The file is a gzipped .sfd file and currently i handle this by repackaging the orig.tar.gz (my former sponsor wanted this). But my new sponsor thinks this should be added during package build. But this way the 88kb binary file would be in the diff.gz... What is the prefered way to handle this ? PS: i talked to upstream some time ago and they do not want to add this into their releases. So i have to handle this on my own. To be able to include it in diff.gz, you need to encode it. You can use uudecode to decode it. Therefore, you need to source depend on sharutils. -- I WILL NOT CUT CORNERS -+- Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 7F11 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to deliver an binary file
Vincent Bernat wrote: OoO Pendant le temps de midi du dimanche 19 août 2007, vers 12:06, Christian Welzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: i packaged typo3-src and had to add an source-file for a font that is used inside typo3. The file is a gzipped .sfd file and currently i handle this by repackaging the orig.tar.gz (my former sponsor wanted this). But my new sponsor thinks this should be added during package build. But this way the 88kb binary file would be in the diff.gz... What is the prefered way to handle this ? PS: i talked to upstream some time ago and they do not want to add this into their releases. So i have to handle this on my own. To be able to include it in diff.gz, you need to encode it. You can use uudecode to decode it. Therefore, you need to source depend on sharutils. -- I WILL NOT CUT CORNERS -+- Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 7F11 You don't need sharutils, you can use perl's pack function See the footnote in the Developer's Reference http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/footnotes.en.html#f7 -- Julian Andres Klode IRC Nickname: juliank (Debian/OFTC + Freenode, GimpNet) Fellow of FSFE: https://www.fsfe.org/en/fellows/jak (No. 1049) Debian Wiki:http://wiki.debian.org/JulianAndresKlode Ubuntu Wiki:http://wiki.ubuntu.com/JulianAndresKlode In Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~juliank My packages: http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Languages: German, English, [bit French] signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: How to deliver an binary file
Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 12:10 schrieb Vincent Bernat: To be able to include it in diff.gz, you need to encode it. You can use But is it such a good idea to put a 120kb encoded file into the diff? I believe i read somewhere this is not a good practise... -- MfG, Christian Welzel GPG-Key: http://www.camlann.de/key.asc Fingerprint: 4F50 19BF 3346 36A6 CFA9 DBDC C268 6D24 70A1 AD15 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to deliver an binary file
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 12:26:21PM +0200, Christian Welzel wrote: Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 12:10 schrieb Vincent Bernat: To be able to include it in diff.gz, you need to encode it. You can use But is it such a good idea to put a 120kb encoded file into the diff? I believe i read somewhere this is not a good practise... The encoded filesize will be not less than 4/3 larger anyway. Were you thinking of you mustn't include in the repacked orig.tar.gz any file not distributed upstream or modified by you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to deliver an binary file
Christian Welzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i packaged typo3-src and had to add an source-file for a font that is used inside typo3. The file is a gzipped .sfd file and currently i handle this by repackaging the orig.tar.gz (my former sponsor wanted this). Is the .sfd file the source form of the font -- that is, is that file the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it, as the GPL would say? (I ask because I don't know what a .sfd file is.) If not, how are you satisfying the DFSG need for distributing the modifiable source of the work? But my new sponsor thinks this should be added during package build. But this way the 88kb binary file would be in the diff.gz... What is the prefered way to handle this ? I would think the best way would be to encourage the upstream to distribute the source form of the work in the source tarball. PS: i talked to upstream some time ago and they do not want to add this into their releases. So i have to handle this on my own. What, then, does upstream consider the source form of the work? Is their distributed source form something that would be considered free software? -- \ If [a technology company] has confidence in their future | `\ ability to innovate, the importance they place on protecting | _o__) their past innovations really should decline. —Gary Barnett | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to deliver an binary file
Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 13:23 schrieb Ben Finney: Is the .sfd file the source form of the font -- that is, is that file the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it, as the GPL would say? (I ask because I don't know what a .sfd file is.) sfd is a format that can be read by fontforge (former pfaedit) and is the source of this font (at least the only source format i ever found). I would think the best way would be to encourage the upstream to distribute the source form of the work in the source tarball. I tryed this. I'll try it further. What, then, does upstream consider the source form of the work? Is their distributed source form something that would be considered free software? I think they also believe the above .sfd as the source of the font but the do not want to redistribute it, because they think nobody ever wants this file and it therefor would waste space in the tarball. -- MfG, Christian Welzel GPG-Key: http://www.camlann.de/key.asc Fingerprint: 4F50 19BF 3346 36A6 CFA9 DBDC C268 6D24 70A1 AD15 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to deliver an binary file
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, Christian Welzel wrote: I think they also believe the above .sfd as the source of the font but the do not want to redistribute it, because they think nobody ever wants this file and it therefor would waste space in the tarball. You mean that they're distributing whatever is built from the sfd (ttf or whatever) in the tarball and not the sfd? [One would hope that they'd at least be distributing some form of this font.] Don Armstrong -- CNN/Reuters: News reports have filtered out early this morning that US forces have swooped on an Iraqi Primary School and detained 6th Grade teacher Mohammed Al-Hazar. Sources indicate that, when arrested, Al-Hazar was in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square and a calculator. US President George W Bush argued that this was clear and overwhelming evidence that Iraq indeed possessed weapons of maths instruction. http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to deliver an binary file
Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 21:28 schrieb Don Armstrong: You mean that they're distributing whatever is built from the sfd (ttf or whatever) in the tarball and not the sfd? Exactly what i wanted to say, yes. (one ttf, no sfd). -- MfG, Christian Welzel GPG-Key: http://www.camlann.de/key.asc Fingerprint: 4F50 19BF 3346 36A6 CFA9 DBDC C268 6D24 70A1 AD15 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to deliver an binary file
Christian Welzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Sonntag, 19. August 2007 13:23 schrieb Ben Finney: What, then, does upstream consider the source form of the work? Is their distributed source form something that would be considered free software? I think they also believe the above .sfd as the source of the font but the do not want to redistribute it, because they think nobody ever wants this file and it therefor would waste space in the tarball. If that's the case, what they distribute isn't free software — unless any recipient can get that source. Certainly, for it to be included in Debian, we need to distribute the *entire* corresponding source form of the work. -- \Choose mnemonic identifiers. If you can't remember what | `\ mnemonic means, you've got a problem. -- Larry Wall | _o__) | Ben Finney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
