Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Raphael Geissert
Charles Plessy wrote:

 Dear Mentors,
 
 I was just wondering if there was a tool accsssible to non-DDs, that
 would allow to get the list of packages that have been uploaded more
 than 10 days ago, but never built on a given architecture. I am about to
 write an email to the buildd admin of mips and mipsel to ask for my
 packages to be built but before I would like to see if I am just
 unlucky, or if this is a more general dysfunctioning.

What about checking on
http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?packages=PACKAGE ?

 
 Have a nice day,
 

Cheers,
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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 05/02/2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
 I was just wondering if there was a tool accsssible to non-DDs, that
 would allow to get the list of packages that have been uploaded more
 than 10 days ago,

d-d-c might help?

 but never built on a given architecture.

Not that I know. You probably want to check the queues on buildd.net,
which should give you an overview of the state of each port.

 I am about to write an email to the buildd admin of mips and mipsel
 to ask for my packages to be built but before I would like to see if
 I am just unlucky, or if this is a more general dysfunctioning.

mipsel has a huge backlog, and ISTR that mips too. Nothing related to
your particular packages, I'd say. Remarks based on some packages of
mine, and of some packages I've been more or less tracking during the
last weeks.

Cheers,

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List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear Mentors,

I was just wondering if there was a tool accsssible to non-DDs, that
would allow to get the list of packages that have been uploaded more
than 10 days ago, but never built on a given architecture. I am about to
write an email to the buildd admin of mips and mipsel to ask for my
packages to be built but before I would like to see if I am just
unlucky, or if this is a more general dysfunctioning.

Have a nice day,

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Debian-Med packaging team
Wakō, Saitama, Japan


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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:38:29 +0900
Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was just wondering if there was a tool accsssible to non-DDs, that
 would allow to get the list of packages that have been uploaded more
 than 10 days ago, but never built on a given architecture. I am about to
 write an email to the buildd admin of mips and mipsel to ask for my
 packages to be built but before I would like to see if I am just
 unlucky, or if this is a more general dysfunctioning.

You mean something like these:

http://buildd.debian.org/stats/?arch=mipselstate=Needs-Build
http://buildd.debian.org/stats/?arch=mipsstate=Needs-Build

So you can see you are not alone :-).

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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Plessy
[CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], because the problem has not been
raised there yet.]

 Charles Plessy wrote:
  
  I was just wondering if there was a tool accsssible to non-DDs, that
  would allow to get the list of packages that have been uploaded more
  than 10 days ago, but never built on a given architecture. I am about to
  write an email to the buildd admin of mips and mipsel to ask for my
  packages to be built but before I would like to see if I am just
  unlucky, or if this is a more general dysfunctioning.


Le Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 08:46:20PM -0600, Raphael Geissert a écrit :
 
 What about checking on
 http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?packages=PACKAGE ?


Le Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 03:46:43AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois a écrit :
 
 mipsel has a huge backlog, and ISTR that mips too. Nothing related to
 your particular packages, I'd say. Remarks based on some packages of
 mine, and of some packages I've been more or less tracking during the
 last weeks.


Le Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:49:09AM +0900, Michal Čihař a écrit :
 
 You mean something like these:
 
 http://buildd.debian.org/stats/?arch=mipselstate=Needs-Build
 http://buildd.debian.org/stats/?arch=mipsstate=Needs-Build
 
 So you can see you are not alone :-).


Hi all,

thanks for all your ansers.

At the beginning I thought that the problem was that the buildds were
ignoring some packages, but finally it is only seems that they are not
keeping up.

So in conclusion, we have nothing else to do than hoping that the
buildds will restart keeping up some day, or is it time to ask on
debian-release that packages not up to date on these arches are allowed
to migrate in testing anyway ?


Have a nice day,

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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 10:09:21AM +0530, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
 On Tue, 05 Feb 2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
  So in conclusion, we have nothing else to do than hoping that the
  buildds will restart keeping up some day, or is it time to ask on
  debian-release that packages not up to date on these arches are allowed
  to migrate in testing anyway ?
 
 Or you could look for a suitable mips machine that could be used to
 help the existing buildd's!
 
 I did ask around here but no one seemed to have one.

(Off-topic, but anyway...)

Having a mipsel machine would help with debugging many things as
well. For example, the most recent are:

lam FTBFSing on mipsel due to a gcc bug:
http://experimental.ftbfs.de/fetch.php?pkg=lamver=7.1.2-1.1arch=mipselstamp=1202167930file=logas=raw

lapack FTBFSing on mips due to a mysterious reason:
http://experimental.ftbfs.de/fetch.php?pkg=lapackver=3.1.1-0.2arch=mipsstamp=1202168381file=logas=raw

If I get enough money later in life, I'm definitely buying one of
these machines, _just_ for testing out stuff and doing a dput/dupload
of packages built on them. Would look awesome to stand apart with a
mips(el) or s390 upload, when others are doing only
source+{i386,amd64}. :-)

Kumar
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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
 So in conclusion, we have nothing else to do than hoping that the
 buildds will restart keeping up some day, or is it time to ask on
 debian-release that packages not up to date on these arches are allowed
 to migrate in testing anyway ?

Or you could look for a suitable mips machine that could be used to
help the existing buildd's!

I did ask around here but no one seemed to have one.

Regards,

Kapil.
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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 05/02/2008, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
 lam FTBFSing on mipsel due to a gcc bug:
 http://experimental.ftbfs.de/fetch.php?pkg=lamver=7.1.2-1.1arch=mipselstamp=1202167930file=logas=raw

Enjoy 4.3 series… An IMHO interesting test would be trying to get it
built with 4.2.

 lapack FTBFSing on mips due to a mysterious reason:
 http://experimental.ftbfs.de/fetch.php?pkg=lapackver=3.1.1-0.2arch=mipsstamp=1202168381file=logas=raw

Maybe killed from outside, not necessarily a compiler error like the
first one.

 If I get enough money later in life, I'm definitely buying one of
 these machines, _just_ for testing out stuff and doing a
 dput/dupload of packages built on them.

Porter machines could help, anyway. Depending on the architectures,
there are some of them available (at least for DDs). Some nice people
even offer access to their architectures to mere contributors (hppa,
kfreebsd-*, for example).

 Would look awesome to stand apart with a mips(el) or s390 upload,
 when others are doing only source+{i386,amd64}. :-)

You're forgetting powerpc uploads anyway. :p

Cheers,

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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Kumar Appaiah
(Removing CC to debian-mips, as your last mail got the point across).

On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 06:01:55AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 On 05/02/2008, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
  lam FTBFSing on mipsel due to a gcc bug:
  http://experimental.ftbfs.de/fetch.php?pkg=lamver=7.1.2-1.1arch=mipselstamp=1202167930file=logas=raw
 
 Enjoy 4.3 series... An IMHO interesting test would be trying to get it
 built with 4.2.

While I'd love to, this is a job for Debian (mips) man!. What I mean
is, someone has to do this on a machine and tell me if this is a
regression (since doko has ruled out the possiblity of GCC 4.2 being
the preferred build toolchain component, we have confirm that it's a
regression).

  lapack FTBFSing on mips due to a mysterious reason:
  http://experimental.ftbfs.de/fetch.php?pkg=lapackver=3.1.1-0.2arch=mipsstamp=1202168381file=logas=raw
 
 Maybe killed from outside, not necessarily a compiler error like the
 first one.

Possible, since it doesn't look like this:
http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=lapackarch=s390ver=3.0.2531a-1.2stamp=1202005519file=logas=raw

That is outright mysterious, though the blame goes on gcc
there. Again, this (according to knowledgeable people) is a gcc
bug. doko is working on fixing it (or working around it temporarily).

  If I get enough money later in life, I'm definitely buying one of
  these machines, _just_ for testing out stuff and doing a
  dput/dupload of packages built on them.
 
 Porter machines could help, anyway. Depending on the architectures,
 there are some of them available (at least for DDs). Some nice people
 even offer access to their architectures to mere contributors (hppa,
 kfreebsd-*, for example).

True. And another thing I wish to place on record is my appreciation
and gratitude to the porters who help keep a mammoth distribution sane
on so many architectures.

  Would look awesome to stand apart with a mips(el) or s390 upload,
  when others are doing only source+{i386,amd64}. :-)
 
 You're forgetting powerpc uploads anyway. :p

Accepted; I've seen a few people do that. But an esoteric (from my
POV) architecture would be too cool! :-)

Kumar
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458, Jamuna Hostel,
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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 05/02/2008, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
 (Removing CC to debian-mips, as your last mail got the point across).

Well, that was on purpose…

  Enjoy 4.3 series... An IMHO interesting test would be trying to
  get it built with 4.2.
 
 While I'd love to, this is a job for Debian (mips) man!. What I
 mean is, someone has to do this on a machine and tell me if this is
 a regression (since doko has ruled out the possiblity of GCC 4.2
 being the preferred build toolchain component, we have confirm that
 it's a regression).

… since I'd bet it's more likely to have a subscriber of -mips than a
subscriber of -mentors be able to do so, that's why I replied with a
cross-post. You might want to try [EMAIL PROTECTED], but looks
to me you might have more chance by asking the -mips subscribers.

Cheers,

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Re: List of out-of-date packages on a given architecture.

2008-02-04 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 06:21:24AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 On 05/02/2008, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
  (Removing CC to debian-mips, as your last mail got the point across).
 
 Well, that was on purpose...

I know, and that was the right thing.

   Enjoy 4.3 series... An IMHO interesting test would be trying to
   get it built with 4.2.
  
  While I'd love to, this is a job for Debian (mips) man!. What I
  mean is, someone has to do this on a machine and tell me if this is
  a regression (since doko has ruled out the possiblity of GCC 4.2
  being the preferred build toolchain component, we have confirm that
  it's a regression).
 
 ... since I'd bet it's more likely to have a subscriber of -mips than a
 subscriber of -mentors be able to do so, that's why I replied with a
 cross-post. You might want to try [EMAIL PROTECTED], but looks
 to me you might have more chance by asking the -mips subscribers.

I am thankful to you for doing so, which is why I said you got the
point across (to the right people). :-)

Just to confirm, is it considered all right to mail debian-port for
help on debugging architecture specific problems? I guess people who
listen wouldn't mind helping out, would they?

Thanks!

Kumar
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