Re: Packages with DMUA but no DM (was: Re: RFS: mpg321 (updated package with AudioScrobbler support))

2010-06-28 Thread Michal Čihař
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Hi

Dne Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:45:25 -0500
Raphael Geissert geiss...@debian.org napsal(a):

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 Paul Wise wrote:
 
  On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Nanakos Chrysostomos
  nana...@wired-net.gr wrote:
  
  I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 0.2.11-4
  of my package mpg321.
  
  According to the PTS the package has DMUA set on it, so you should be
  able to build and upload it yourself.
 
 Except that Nanakos isn't a DM according to [1] and [2], which makes me 
 wonder why Michal sponsored an upload that sets the field.

I really did not check whether he is DM, sorry. I've already uploaded
few version of mpg321 and though it would be okay to keep DMUA there. I
just did not expect somebody would add DMUA while not being DM ...
lesson learned.

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Re: Packages with DMUA but no DM (was: Re: RFS: mpg321 (updated package with AudioScrobbler support))

2010-06-28 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno lun, 28/06/2010 alle 11.44 +0200, Michal Čihař ha scritto:
 [...] I
 just did not expect somebody would add DMUA while not being DM ...
 lesson learned.
 

Just curiosity, but... why is this a problem?

I mean: couldn't a DD say I trust you on this package but you're still
not DM - I set the flag so it's useful in case you become it?!
Is there some key-related security trap I'm missing?

thanks

Pietro


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Re: Packages with DMUA but no DM (was: Re: RFS: mpg321 (updated package with AudioScrobbler support))

2010-06-28 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno lun, 28/06/2010 alle 11.44 +0200, Michal Čihař ha scritto: 
 [...] I
 just did not expect somebody would add DMUA while not being DM ...
 lesson learned.
 

Just curiosity, but... which lesson?

I mean: couldn't a DD say I trust you for this package but you're still
not DM - I set the flag so it's useful in case you become it?!
Is the problem that it's unsecure to trust an email address which key is
still not officially known to Debian?

thanks

Pietro 


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Re: Packages with DMUA but no DM (was: Re: RFS: mpg321 (updated package with AudioScrobbler support))

2010-06-28 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi

Dne Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:57:22 +0200
Pietro Battiston m...@pietrobattiston.it napsal(a):

 Il giorno lun, 28/06/2010 alle 11.44 +0200, Michal Čihař ha scritto: 
  [...] I
  just did not expect somebody would add DMUA while not being DM ...
  lesson learned.
  
 
 Just curiosity, but... which lesson?

Because I should check it more carefully.

 I mean: couldn't a DD say I trust you for this package but you're still
 not DM - I set the flag so it's useful in case you become it?!
 Is the problem that it's unsecure to trust an email address which key is
 still not officially known to Debian?

I think the biggest problem is that it is confusing - eg. PTS shows
this information and make people think there is no need to sponsor this
package (like it happened now).

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Re: Packages with DMUA but no DM (was: Re: RFS: mpg321 (updated package with AudioScrobbler support))

2010-06-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 09:45:25PM -0500, Raphael Geissert a écrit : 
 
 I wonder if there should be a list of packages with DMUA but no DM 
 Uploader[s] or Maintainer.

Hi Raphaël,

in the Debian Med packaging team, we set the DMUA field to ‘yes’ in all of our
packages, and regulate upload rights through the Uploaders field. So at least
some of our packages would be in this list without being problematic.

Have a nice day,

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Charles Plessy
Debian Med packaging team
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan.


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Packages with DMUA but no DM (was: Re: RFS: mpg321 (updated package with AudioScrobbler support))

2010-06-26 Thread Raphael Geissert
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Paul Wise wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Nanakos Chrysostomos
 nana...@wired-net.gr wrote:
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for the new version 0.2.11-4
 of my package mpg321.
 
 According to the PTS the package has DMUA set on it, so you should be
 able to build and upload it yourself.

Except that Nanakos isn't a DM according to [1] and [2], which makes me 
wonder why Michal sponsored an upload that sets the field.

Not to mention that some bugs were closed in the changelog when they should 
have been closed by manually sending a message to the report explaining why 
it is not a bug. Examples:

* Tried to reproduce the same experiment as Bug #388587 and
  i don't see any problem.
  If someone else can simulate the same problem, please report the bug
  and the way to simulate it again.So i am closing thsi bug also.
  (Closes: Bug#388587)
* Anyone who wants to use the -a option can follow the information 
from
  the manpage. To give an example: mpg321 -a /dev/dsp song.mp3.
  So Bug #286176 should close.The -a option seems to work fine.
  (Closes: Bug#286176).


I wonder if there should be a list of packages with DMUA but no DM 
Uploader[s] or Maintainer.

[1]https://nm.debian.org/dm_list.html
[2]http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?archive=both;package=debian-
maintainers
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