Re: RFS: dsbltesters

2006-01-27 Thread Al Nikolov
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Christoph Haas wrote:

  - Please close the WNPP bug 273204 which you opened yourself
one and a half year ago.

 Ok, i'll close it.

 I assumed though that ITP should be closed after that the package was
 become ready and was appeared in the pool. I'm i wrong?
 
 Please use the debian/changelog to close it.

http://www.de.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-upload-bugfix

Yes, that's better.

 
  - The copyright file should contain the years of copyright.

 Ok, i'll fix that.

 BTW i see many copyright files in Debian packages whitout (c)year lines.
 Is it actually a violation?
 

http://groups.google.de/group/linux.debian.announce.devel/browse_frm/thread/ee00935883c7bec2/5326ec35388edb3c

IMHO, the Debian Policy really should be more exacting.

  - There has been long time no change. Did you contact the upstream
to make sure the software is still maintained?

 This piece of software is developed and distributed by dsbl.org project
 which acts as great free network service. I have no doubt, the software
 is pretty _useful_ as one of methods to open proxy/relay reliable
 testing and it's included in FreeBSD ports collection. Should i care if
 it wasn't updated for 2 years?
 
 The main concern is that security bugs may come up. And in that case the
 upstream should jump in quickly and help to fix it. If the upstream
 software became unmaintained then the situation may lead to the removal of
 the package.
 
 It's okay if the last update is a year ago. I just wanted to make sure you
 talked to the upstream at least once.

Waiting for the answer.

  - The package is not lintian clean. Three issues there.

 Do you mean issues above or something other? I saw only one:

 $ lintian dsbltesters_0.9.5-1.dsc
 W: dsbltesters source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1
 
 I got these messages:
 
 W: dsbltesters source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1
 E: dsbltesters: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/dsbl.conf
 W: dsbltesters: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file

 Could you be so kind to check dsbltesters_0.9.5-2?
 
 Just did. Still not lintian clean. Did you use a current Sid (unstable)
 installation to build the package? These are the remaning messages:
 
 E: dsbltesters: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/dsbl.conf
 W: dsbltesters: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
 
 Please make sure your package are lintian-clean.

Hmm... The history follows.

I made built package checks under my usual system (testing), and now i see
that it should be produced in pbuilder environment. I just added linda- and
lintian-hooks to pbuilder (DISTRIBUTION=testing). They reports:

Setting up linda (0.3.17) ...

Linda: Running as root, dropping to nobody.
E: dsbltesters; dsbl.conf is in /etc, but not marked as a conffile.

Setting up lintian (1.23.14) ...

E: dsbltesters: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/dsbl.conf
W: dsbltesters: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file

To me, it's a kind of magic, because i use up-to-date etch system and
certanly same linda/lintian versions as for pbuilder environment. How come
the difference?

Anyway, now, pbuilder environment was upgraded for sid and next release
should be lintian-clean. Be so nice, look at dsbl-testers_0.9.5-3...

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Re: RFS: dsbltesters

2006-01-26 Thread Al Nikolov
Christoph Haas wrote:

 I'd be generally willing to sponsor it, but...

Thanks anyway.

 - Please close the WNPP bug 273204 which you opened yourself
   one and a half year ago.

Ok, i'll close it.

I assumed though that ITP should be closed after that the package was become
ready and was appeared in the pool. I'm i wrong?

 - Please use the current standards version.

No problem, i'll fix that.

 - The copyright file should contain the years of copyright.

Ok, i'll fix that.

BTW i see many copyright files in Debian packages whitout (c)year lines. Is
it actually a violation?

 - There has been long time no change. Did you contact the upstream
   to make sure the software is still maintained?

This piece of software is developed and distributed by dsbl.org project
which acts as great free network service. I have no doubt, the software is
pretty _useful_ as one of methods to open proxy/relay reliable testing and
it's included in FreeBSD ports collection. Should i care if it wasn't
updated for 2 years? I maintain an another package (proxycheck) which do
almost the same and it also stays without aggressive development. IMHO,
such a nature of the object: most of open proxies/relays are usual MUAs,
HTTP servers and other well-known services in well-known insecure states.
There is not so many news from the battlefield.

Anyway, i've asked upstream about the software status.

 - Installing the README file doesn't seem to add any value for the
   end-user.

Ok, i'll remove it.

I assumed that README.Debian is the right place to point on specific build
options. Debian includes needed development libraries, but the easiest way
to debianize this software was just to link it against the supplied
versions. Should i emphasize that somewhere?

 - The upstream tarball I just fetched from the web site has another
   md5 checksum than the orig.tar.gz you provide. How come?
   At a first diff -r glance the two files have many differences.

$ md5sum dsbltesters_0.9.5.orig.tar.gz dsbl-testers-0.9.5.tar.gz
55285009d90914048df2f62f4c9525d8  dsbltesters_0.9.5.orig.tar.gz
55285009d90914048df2f62f4c9525d8  dsbl-testers-0.9.5.tar.gz

For me, they are identical. Perhaps, you've downloaded by mistake
dsbl-0.9.5.tar.gz which is server software.

 - The package is not lintian clean. Three issues there.

Do you mean issues above or something other? I saw only one:

$ lintian dsbltesters_0.9.5-1.dsc
W: dsbltesters source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1

Could you be so kind to check dsbltesters_0.9.5-2?

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Re: RFS: dsbltesters

2006-01-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2006-01-26, Al Nikolov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I assumed though that ITP should be closed after that the package was become
 ready and was appeared in the pool. I'm i wrong?

It should be closed in the changelog. Then it will automagically be
closed when package get build.

/Sune
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Re: RFS: dsbltesters

2006-01-26 Thread Christoph Haas
On Thursday 26 January 2006 21:18, Al Nikolov wrote:
 Christoph Haas wrote:
  - Please close the WNPP bug 273204 which you opened yourself
one and a half year ago.

 Ok, i'll close it.

 I assumed though that ITP should be closed after that the package was
 become ready and was appeared in the pool. I'm i wrong?

Please use the debian/changelog to close it.
http://www.de.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-upload-bugfix

  - The copyright file should contain the years of copyright.

 Ok, i'll fix that.

 BTW i see many copyright files in Debian packages whitout (c)year lines.
 Is it actually a violation?

http://groups.google.de/group/linux.debian.announce.devel/browse_frm/thread/ee00935883c7bec2/5326ec35388edb3c

  - There has been long time no change. Did you contact the upstream
to make sure the software is still maintained?

 This piece of software is developed and distributed by dsbl.org project
 which acts as great free network service. I have no doubt, the software
 is pretty _useful_ as one of methods to open proxy/relay reliable
 testing and it's included in FreeBSD ports collection. Should i care if
 it wasn't updated for 2 years?

The main concern is that security bugs may come up. And in that case the 
upstream should jump in quickly and help to fix it. If the upstream 
software became unmaintained then the situation may lead to the removal of 
the package.

It's okay if the last update is a year ago. I just wanted to make sure you 
talked to the upstream at least once.

  - Installing the README file doesn't seem to add any value for the
end-user.

 Ok, i'll remove it.

 I assumed that README.Debian is the right place to point on specific
 build options. Debian includes needed development libraries, but the
 easiest way to debianize this software was just to link it against the
 supplied versions. Should i emphasize that somewhere?

The README.Debian provides additional information for end users on how to 
use the software. Say the package installs some binaries then the user 
should start by reading the README.Debian to understand how to use the 
package.

That README.Debian should not be used to tell how your package works 
internally or which options you used to build it. That's not relevant for 
the end user.

  - The upstream tarball I just fetched from the web site has another
md5 checksum than the orig.tar.gz you provide. How come?
At a first diff -r glance the two files have many differences.

 $ md5sum dsbltesters_0.9.5.orig.tar.gz dsbl-testers-0.9.5.tar.gz
 55285009d90914048df2f62f4c9525d8  dsbltesters_0.9.5.orig.tar.gz
 55285009d90914048df2f62f4c9525d8  dsbl-testers-0.9.5.tar.gz

 For me, they are identical. Perhaps, you've downloaded by mistake
 dsbl-0.9.5.tar.gz which is server software.

You are right. My mistake. Awkward... :)

  - The package is not lintian clean. Three issues there.

 Do you mean issues above or something other? I saw only one:

 $ lintian dsbltesters_0.9.5-1.dsc
 W: dsbltesters source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1

I got these messages:

W: dsbltesters source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.6.1
E: dsbltesters: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/dsbl.conf
W: dsbltesters: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file

 Could you be so kind to check dsbltesters_0.9.5-2?

Just did. Still not lintian clean. Did you use a current Sid (unstable) 
installation to build the package? These are the remaning messages:

E: dsbltesters: file-in-etc-not-marked-as-conffile /etc/dsbl.conf
W: dsbltesters: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file

Please make sure your package are lintian-clean.

 Christoph
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RFS: dsbltesters

2006-01-25 Thread Al Nikolov
Package: dsbltesters
Description: open proxy/relay testing utilities
License: GPL
URL: http://dsbl.org/programs
Upstream Authors: Rik van Riel, Ian Gulliver, Ron Guilmette, Fred Smith

This package contains testing software configured to work with
the DSBL (http://dsbl.org/) or DSBL-compliant services.  It
enables you to send tests to servers based on spam that you
receive.  If those tests succeed, the results will reach the
DSBL host in question, and the relay will be listed.

It can be downloaded from:
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/dsbltesters/

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Re: RFS: dsbltesters

2006-01-25 Thread Christoph Haas
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 14:10, Al Nikolov wrote:
 Package: dsbltesters
 Description: open proxy/relay testing utilities
 License: GPL
 URL: http://dsbl.org/programs
 Upstream Authors: Rik van Riel, Ian Gulliver, Ron Guilmette, Fred Smith

 This package contains testing software configured to work with
 the DSBL (http://dsbl.org/) or DSBL-compliant services.  It
 enables you to send tests to servers based on spam that you
 receive.  If those tests succeed, the results will reach the
 DSBL host in question, and the relay will be listed.

 It can be downloaded from:
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/d/dsbltesters/

I'd be generally willing to sponsor it, but...

- Please close the WNPP bug 273204 which you opened yourself
  one and a half year ago.
- Please use the current standards version.
- The copyright file should contain the years of copyright.
- There has been long time no change. Did you contact the upstream
  to make sure the software is still maintained?
- Installing the README file doesn't seem to add any value for the
  end-user.
- The upstream tarball I just fetched from the web site has another
  md5 checksum than the orig.tar.gz you provide. How come?
  At a first diff -r glance the two files have many differences.
- The package is not lintian clean. Three issues there.

Please fix that first.

Kindly
 Christoph
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RFS: dsbltesters - open proxy/relay testing utilities

2005-12-12 Thread Al Nikolov
Hi, all

Seeking for sponsorship for the package (ITP: 273204)

 Package: dsbltesters
 Version: 0.9.5-1
 Section: net
 Priority: optional
 Description: open proxy/relay testing utilities
  This package contains testing software configured to work with
  the DSBL (http://dsbl.org/) or DSBL-compliant services.  It
  enables you to send tests to servers based on spam that you
  receive.  If those tests succeed, the results will reach the
  DSBL host in question, and the relay will be listed.

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Re: RFS: dsbltesters - open proxy/relay testing utilities

2005-12-12 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:16:19PM +0300, Al Nikolov wrote:
 Hi, all
 
 Seeking for sponsorship for the package (ITP: 273204)
Where can one find the package to download and test?

 
  Package: dsbltesters
  Version: 0.9.5-1
  Section: net
  Priority: optional
  Description: open proxy/relay testing utilities
   This package contains testing software configured to work with
   the DSBL (http://dsbl.org/) or DSBL-compliant services.  It
   enables you to send tests to servers based on spam that you
   receive.  If those tests succeed, the results will reach the
   DSBL host in question, and the relay will be listed.
I think the long description could use some work; if I understand
correctly,

  Tests SMTP servers for opened proxy/relay based on email received
  and listed as spam.  Unsecured and abusive hosts can be reported to
  DBSL-style blacklists (http://dsbl.org).

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