Re: RFS: packagekit (ping2)

2010-10-17 Thread Matthias Klumpp
 
 [...] (lots of further info on packagekit)
 
 Well, I am a DD and in principle could sponsor such a package, but I
just
 lack
 all the know how needed to properly evaluate gnome-related packages.
And,
 as I
 already wrote in another reponse to an RFS some minutes ago, it seems
that
 nobody else reading the RFS on this list is currently able to do such
 sponsoring. Wouldn't it maybe be a good idea to contact the Debian GNOME
 Team
 instead? All the info is available at
 
 http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-gnome
PackageKit is no GNOME package (it's not part of GNOME). There is a GNOME
frontend for it, called GNOME-PackageKit. The PackageKit daemon uses
GLib, but that's all.
But as PackageKit is used (can be used) by many GNOME applications, the
GNOME development team might be interested in having this in the repos.
So, I'll write to their mailing list later, maybe someone is interested in
sponsoring the package.

 Hope this helps,
Yep, at least I have some kind of perspective for this package now. I'll
first ask the Ubuntu devs, then post on the pkg-gnome mailinglist.
Thanks!


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Re: RFS: packagekit (ping2)

2010-10-13 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi Matthias,

 On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 22:38:59 +0200, Julien Viard de Galbert
 jul...@vdg.blogsite.org wrote:
  On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 08:09:23PM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
  Dear mentors,
  
  I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.
  This package has been reviewed by Paul Wise and Asheesh Laroia already
  and
  should be completely free of any policy violations or other problems
  regarding packaging.
  OK, I will save them to answer you within 4 days then ;)
  Don't take me wrong, I'm not DD so I wont upload, but even if I were, by
  reading your mail I just don't get what packagekit is, so I guess I'm
  not the only one ;)

[...] (lots of further info on packagekit)

Well, I am a DD and in principle could sponsor such a package, but I just lack
all the know how needed to properly evaluate gnome-related packages. And, as I
already wrote in another reponse to an RFS some minutes ago, it seems that
nobody else reading the RFS on this list is currently able to do such
sponsoring. Wouldn't it maybe be a good idea to contact the Debian GNOME Team
instead? All the info is available at

http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-gnome

Hope this helps,
Michael



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Re: RFS: packagekit (ping2)

2010-10-09 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 22:38:59 +0200, Julien Viard de Galbert
jul...@vdg.blogsite.org wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 08:09:23PM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.
 This package has been reviewed by Paul Wise and Asheesh Laroia already
 and
 should be completely free of any policy violations or other problems
 regarding packaging.
 OK, I will save them to answer you within 4 days then ;)
 Don't take me wrong, I'm not DD so I wont upload, but even if I were, by
 reading your mail I just don't get what packagekit is, so I guess I'm
 not the only one ;)
Hmm, okay, if this is the problem I can solve it easily :P PackageKit is a
DBus abstraction layer and Freedesktop standard for accessing package
management. It allows you to implement access to package management into
your application in a cross-distro way, for example the Anjuta IDE searches
for required plugins using PackageKit and the Nautilus file manager can use
it to install apps for missing mime-types etc. All these apps just need to
know the PackageKit API, it does not matter if the distribution uses
APT/Yum/Zypper/Emerge/your_packagemanager.
Also, PackageKit organizes all package management tasks in transactions,
which allows you e.g to browse the package database while installing new
packages/updates. PackageKit is also the basis for tools like
GNOME-PackageKit, which provides an advanced, user-friendly PackageManager
and System-Update GUI, as well as KPackageKit (Apper) does for KDE. (KDE
can also use PackageKit to install missing Debug-Symbols automatically)
For more information about PK, please read
http://packagekit.org/pk-intro.html or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PackageKit

 
 I work closely with upstream and hope to find someone interested in
 sponsoring the package for Debian.
 
 Here you can find details about this package:
 
 * Package name: packagekit
   Version : 0.6.8-1
   Upstream Author : Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com
 * URL : http://packagekit.org
 * License : GPLv2/LGPLv2
   Section : admin
 
 It builds these binary packages:
 [...]
 The package appears to be lintian clean.
 
 The upload would fix these bugs: 468132
 
 My motivation for maintaining this package is: [fill in].
 
 And that should probably be filled too
Oh, sorry, I forgot this... My motivation is that I work closely with
upstream on some PK related tasks, including this package. I develop an
extension for PackageKit, so I know the project's code well, also
PackageKit is the basis of some own projects I develop.
I also assist the Ubuntu packaging of PK sometimes (by providing patches
etc.) and I think having PK in Debian is great for PackageKit by itself (as
it tries to be a generic package management abstraction layer for all
distros) and for Debian, as it then can benefit from all PK features and
existing apps can depend on it, as well as Debian can have the (really
nice) PK-based update-manager or other PK-based tools too. It also can use
the global AppInstall data to create tools similar to Ubuntu's USC. (but
cross-distro)

 The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
 - URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit
 - Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
 main contrib non-free
 - dget

http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.8-1.dsc
 
 I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.
 
 Kind regards
  Matthias Klumpp


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RFS: packagekit (ping2)

2010-10-08 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.
This package has been reviewed by Paul Wise and Asheesh Laroia already and
should be completely free of any policy violations or other problems
regarding packaging.
I work closely with upstream and hope to find someone interested in
sponsoring the package for Debian.

Here you can find details about this package:

* Package name: packagekit
  Version : 0.6.8-1
  Upstream Author : Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com
* URL : http://packagekit.org
* License : GPLv2/LGPLv2
  Section : admin

It builds these binary packages:
browser-plugin-packagekit - Plugin to install missing plugins using
PackageKit
gstreamer0.10-packagekit - GStreamer plugin to install codecs using
PackageKit
libpackagekit-glib2-14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
libpackagekit-glib2-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
packagekit - Provides a package management service
packagekit-backend-apt - Python APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-aptcc - C++ APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-smart - Smart backend for PackageKit
packagekit-bash-completion - Offer to install missing programs
automatically
packagekit-docs - Documentation for PackageKit
packagekit-gtk-module - Install fonts automatically using PackageKit
python-packagekit - PackageKit Python bindings

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 468132

My motivation for maintaining this package is: [fill in].

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.8-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
 Matthias Klumpp


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RFS: packagekit (ping2)

2010-09-13 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.

* Package name: packagekit
  Version : 0.6.8-1
  Upstream Author : Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com
* URL : http://packagekit.org
* License : GPLv2/LGPLv2
  Section : admin

It builds these binary packages:
browser-plugin-packagekit - Plugin to install missing plugins using
PackageKit
gstreamer0.10-packagekit - GStreamer plugin to install codecs using
PackageKit
libpackagekit-glib2-14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
libpackagekit-glib2-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
packagekit - Provides a package management service
packagekit-backend-apt - Python APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-aptcc - C++ APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-smart - Smart backend for PackageKit
packagekit-bash-completion - Offer to install missing programs
automatically
packagekit-docs - Documentation for PackageKit
packagekit-gtk-module - Install fonts automatically using PackageKit
python-packagekit - PackageKit Python bindings

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 468132

My motivation for maintaining this package is: I follow the project since
version 0.1.5 and develop some own software on to of the
PackageKit library. I use PackageKit daily and I'm in contact with
upstream.

Note on PackageKit:
PackageKit has Debconf support now (the APTcc backend has it) and supports
some other functions requested for Debian, like solving the problem if a
package installation requires a package removal etc. Nearly all problems
some Debian devs named are fixed and PK ist ready for the repos. Kubuntu
aleady uses it with great success.
I recently updated the pkg at Debian Mentors. Specially for Debian,
v.0.6.8 provides these changes:

 - aptcc: Improved user experience by setting subprogress on package
installation/remove/update (Daniel Nicoletti)
 - aptcc: Disable auto remove by default (Daniel Nicoletti)
 - aptcc: Fix how downloads are emitted (Daniel Nicoletti)
 - aptcc: Forbid canceling while installing, the user might need to dpkg
--configure -a on the cmd line (Daniel Nicoletti)
 - aptcc: Improved how packages are emited (Daniel Nicoletti)
 - aptcc: Improved logic for the updates category (Daniel Nicoletti)
 - aptcc: make sure all downloaded packages emit FINISHED (Daniel
Nicoletti)
 - aptcc: Show apt error message when we could not get the cache lock
(Daniel Nicoletti)


The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.7-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
 Matthias Klumpp


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RFS: packagekit

2010-09-03 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.

* Package name: packagekit
  Version : 0.6.7-1
  Upstream Author : Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com
* URL : http://packagekit.org
* License : GPLv2/LGPLv2
  Section : admin

It builds these binary packages:
gstreamer0.10-packagekit - GStreamer plugin to install codecs using
PackageKit
libpackagekit-glib2-14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
libpackagekit-glib2-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
browser-plugin-packagekit - Plugin to install missing plugins using
PackageKit
packagekit - Provides a package management service
packagekit-backend-apt - Python APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-aptcc - C++ APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-smart - Smart backend for PackageKit
packagekit-bash-completion - Offer to install missing programs
automatically
packagekit-docs - Documentation for PackageKit
packagekit-gtk-module - Install fonts automatically using PackageKit
python-packagekit - PackageKit Python bindings

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 468132

My motivation for maintaining this package is: I follow the project since
version 0.1.5 and develop some own software on to of the
PackageKit library. I use PackageKit daily and I'm in contact with
upstream.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.7-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Note on PackageKit:
PackageKit has Debconf support now (the APTcc backend has it) and supports
some other functions requested for Debian, like solving the problem if a
package installation requires a package removal etc. Nearly all problems
some Debian devs named are fixed and PK ist ready for the repos. Kubuntu
aleady uses it with great success.

Kind regards
 Matthias Klumpp


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RFS: packagekit (ping)

2010-09-03 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.

* Package name: packagekit
  Version : 0.6.7-1
  Upstream Author : Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com
* URL : http://packagekit.org
* License : GPLv2/LGPLv2
  Section : admin

It builds these binary packages:
gstreamer0.10-packagekit - GStreamer plugin to install codecs using
PackageKit
libpackagekit-glib2-14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
libpackagekit-glib2-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
browser-plugin-packagekit - Plugin to install missing plugins using
PackageKit
packagekit - Provides a package management service
packagekit-backend-apt - Python APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-aptcc - C++ APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-smart - Smart backend for PackageKit
packagekit-bash-completion - Offer to install missing programs
automatically
packagekit-docs - Documentation for PackageKit
packagekit-gtk-module - Install fonts automatically using PackageKit
python-packagekit - PackageKit Python bindings

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 468132

My motivation for maintaining this package is: I follow the project since
version 0.1.5 and develop some own software on to of the
PackageKit library. I use PackageKit daily and I'm in contact with
upstream.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.7-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Note on PackageKit:
PackageKit has Debconf support now (the APTcc backend has it) and supports
some other functions requested for Debian, like solving the problem if a
package installation requires a package removal etc. Nearly all problems
some Debian devs named are fixed and PK ist ready for the repos. Kubuntu
aleady uses it with great success.

Kind regards
 Matthias Klumpp


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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-09-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org wrote:

 The license of the Fedora Wiki is AFAIK CC-BY-SA, should be no problem to
 reuse the texts. (I also modified them to match the Debian situation)

I mean stuff like indicating that the text is CC-BY-SA and listing the
copyright information.

Please read the CC-BY-SA legal code and try to ensure you are doing
the right thing.

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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-09-02 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:39:55 +0800, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org
 wrote:
 
 The license of the Fedora Wiki is AFAIK CC-BY-SA, should be no problem
to
 reuse the texts. (I also modified them to match the Debian situation)
 
 I mean stuff like indicating that the text is CC-BY-SA and listing the
 copyright information.
Uh, I already added the information to Debian's wiki, but it seems like I
removed while moving the page to PackageKit namespace... Anyway, I added a
reference to Fedorawiki and the information that the license is CC-BY-SA
again.
Cheers,
  Matthias

 Please read the CC-BY-SA legal code and try to ensure you are doing
 the right thing.


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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-09-01 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Something left to do?
Regards
   Matthias


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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-31 Thread Praveen A
2010/8/31 Paul Wise p...@debian.org:
 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org wrote:

 new wiki pages have been created. (I basically took the information from 
 Fedora)

 Please move them under the PackageKit namespace, so...

 http://wiki.debian.org/PackageKit/PackageItemNotFound
 and so on

 Also, what was the license for the Fedora pages? Please ensure that
 the Debian wiki is in compliance with that license.

I was reading through the wiki and found this,

* Debian does not include software that is encumbered by software patents.

This statement is correct for Fedora, but we have many *known* patent
encumbered software in our repos like mp3 codec, ffmpeg etc. So I
think, this item can be removed.

Thanks
Praveen
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Debian and Patents (was: Re: RFS: packagekit)

2010-08-31 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In aanlktimrba0hxth3kq-fik9g57m8iqbzcjf1f0ryy...@mail.gmail.com, Praveen A 
wrote:
I was reading through the wiki and found this,

* Debian does not include software that is encumbered by software patents.

This statement is correct for Fedora, but we have many *known* patent
encumbered software in our repos like mp3 codec, ffmpeg etc. So I
think, this item can be removed.

I thought the patent encumbered software was banned from the repos due to 
legal risk to SPI.  I get my ffmpeg and mp3 stuff from the debian-multimedia 
repositories which, while good, are not official.
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Re: Debian and Patents (was: Re: RFS: packagekit)

2010-08-31 Thread Praveen A
2010/8/31 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net:
 I thought the patent encumbered software was banned from the repos due to
 legal risk to SPI.  I get my ffmpeg and mp3 stuff from the debian-multimedia
 repositories which, while good, are not official.

apt-cache policy libmad0 ffmpeg
apt-cache show libmad0 ffmpeg

pr...@savannah:~$ apt-cache policy libmad0 ffmpeg
libmad0:
  Installed: 0.15.1b-5
  Candidate: 0.15.1b-5
  Version table:
 *** 0.15.1b-5 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
ffmpeg:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 4:0.5.2-3
  Version table:
 4:0.6-2 0
101 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages
 4:0.5.2-3 0
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Packages

It is in debian main. I was surprised to see even wmv/wma playing out
of the box with squeeze.

Thanks
Praveen
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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-31 Thread Russ Allbery
Praveen A prav...@gmail.com writes:

 I was reading through the wiki and found this,

 * Debian does not include software that is encumbered by software patents.

 This statement is correct for Fedora, but we have many *known* patent
 encumbered software in our repos like mp3 codec, ffmpeg etc. So I
 think, this item can be removed.

It depends on what you mean by encumbered.  I'm quite sure that Fedora
contains software covered by patents for which there is no public license.
It's almost impossible to have software systems that aren't covered by
some patent, probably unenforcable.

I believe Debian and Fedora use essentially the same policy: we don't
include software with a patent that we think is likely to be enforced on
either Debian or our users.  Where that line gets drawn tends to vary a
lot depending on a wide variety of factors, including legal advice.

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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-31 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:26:25 +0800, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org
 wrote:
 
 new wiki pages have been created. (I basically took the information
from
 Fedora)
 
 Please move them under the PackageKit namespace, so...
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/PackageKit/PackageItemNotFound
 and so on
 
 Also, what was the license for the Fedora pages? Please ensure that
 the Debian wiki is in compliance with that license.
Changed. (http://wiki.debian.org/PackageKit/ItemNotFound) I refreshed the
patch and uploaded the package to Mentors again.
The license of the Fedora Wiki is AFAIK CC-BY-SA, should be no problem to
reuse the texts. (I also modified them to match the Debian situation)
Regards
  Matthias



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- dget
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Re: Debian and Patents (was: Re: RFS: packagekit)

2010-08-31 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:12:37 +0530, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/8/31 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net:
 I thought the patent encumbered software was banned from the repos due
to
 legal risk to SPI.  I get my ffmpeg and mp3 stuff from the
 debian-multimedia
 repositories which, while good, are not official.
It is. Debian Sid ships a version of FFMpeg which has disabled patented
codecs etc.
The Debian software pool might be not completely free of patents, but the
most dangerous and important aren't shipped. Also it AFAIK does not contain
a lot of patented software.


 apt-cache policy libmad0 ffmpeg
 apt-cache show libmad0 ffmpeg
 
 pr...@savannah:~$ apt-cache policy libmad0 ffmpeg
 libmad0:
   Installed: 0.15.1b-5
   Candidate: 0.15.1b-5
   Version table:
  *** 0.15.1b-5 0
 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 ffmpeg:
   Installed: (none)
   Candidate: 4:0.5.2-3
   Version table:
  4:0.6-2 0
 101 http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental/main Packages
  4:0.5.2-3 0
 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main Packages
 
 It is in debian main. I was surprised to see even wmv/wma playing out
 of the box with squeeze.
Are you really sure? (Maybe I got something wrong, but this shouldn't be
possible and it wasn't possible on my Debian installation)

Cheers
  Matthias


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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-30 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Hi again!
With the latest upload I fixed everything which was criticized on the
packaging: The copyright is clear, it does not FTBFS on pbuilder, the
mozilla package has been renamed to browser-plugin, we don't need the dirty
hack to remove the source file anymore and new wiki pages have been
created. (I basically took the information from Fedora)
So, is there someone out there who wants to review/sponsor the package?
Would be very nice :)
Regards
   Matthias

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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-30 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:12:18 +0200, David Bremner brem...@unb.ca wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 14:48:17 +0200, Matthias Klumpp
matth...@nlinux.org
 wrote:
 somone (pabs?) wrote:
  Why do you move the upstream helper scripts to /usr/lib?
 They're scripts and should not be in /usr/share/PackageKit. In this
 directory we only have documentation of PK.
 
 As best I understand the Linux File Hierarchy Standard, and thus Debian
 Policy, architecture independent files should go in /usr/share, even if
 they are scripts.  Perhaps you could make a subdirectory for the docs,
 and one for the helper scripts
I think someone from Ubuntu told me one time to move the scripts to
/usr/lib... Anyway, I changed the packaging, the helper scripts now go to
/usr/share/PackageKit
Thanks,
  Matthias

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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-30 Thread David Bremner
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 14:48:17 +0200, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org wrote:
 somone (pabs?) wrote:
  Why do you move the upstream helper scripts to /usr/lib?
 They're scripts and should not be in /usr/share/PackageKit. In this
 directory we only have documentation of PK.

As best I understand the Linux File Hierarchy Standard, and thus Debian
Policy, architecture independent files should go in /usr/share, even if
they are scripts.  Perhaps you could make a subdirectory for the docs,
and one for the helper scripts

All the best,

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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org wrote:

 new wiki pages have been created. (I basically took the information from 
 Fedora)

Please move them under the PackageKit namespace, so...

http://wiki.debian.org/PackageKit/PackageItemNotFound
and so on

Also, what was the license for the Fedora pages? Please ensure that
the Debian wiki is in compliance with that license.

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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-29 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org wrote:

 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.7-1.dsc

A review as promised...

The copyright situation is much more complex than what you present in
debian/copyright. Please look at each file and fully document the
license situation. It is possible to have a per-binary-package
copyright file, which you might want to do since the libraries are
licensed differently.

Why do you need to build in a subdirectory? Seems like it complicates
the debian/rules file for no benefit. You can drop many of the flags
from DEB_BASIC_AUTOTOOLS_FLAGS by using dh_auto_configure --
$(DEB_BASIC_AUTOTOOLS_FLAGS) $(PK_CONFIGURE_FLAGS) instead. Same for
make vs dh_auto_install.

Why do you move the upstream helper scripts to /usr/lib?

Not sure that patch removal stuff is a good idea. Better to fix
upstream to not include generated files in the tarball.

Can the ln -s can be achieved with dh_link instead?

The watch file isn't quite as specific as it could be, I would replace
(.*) with ([\d\.]+) and drop the blank line.

Why is most of 01_set_defaults.patch needed? Shouldn't we only need to
change the iceweasel thing?

02_update_aptcc.patch is a pretty big patch, has it been applied upstream yet?

For the URLs in 00_set_vendor.patch I would suggest creating new pages
in the PackageKit namespace on the wiki focused on what PackageKit
needs from them and based on what other distros have in the equivalent
pages. Then make those pages CategoryPermalink.

I wonder if the s/emblem-favorite/distributor-logo/ part of
00_set_vendor.patch should be forwarded upstream.

The browser plugin package naming has changed recently, they should no
longer be called mozilla-* but browser-plugin-* or xul-ext-* IIRC.

Is the smart backend useful in Debian? I can't see smart in Debian.

The upstream README duplicates the information from debian/control,
drop it from debian/docs.

Please add explanations to README.Debian about why things aren't shipped.

Would it be a good idea to turn on unit tests? That would help ensure
the package works on all arches.

Which features of PackageKit in Fedora will not work in Debian?

An automated warning:

configure: WARNING: Distro upgrade notification not supported

The package FTBFS in pbuilder:

running CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh /bin/sh ../configure --prefix=/usr
--includedir=${prefix}/include --mandir=${prefix}/share/man
--infodir=${prefix}/share/info --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var
--libexecdir=${prefix}/lib/packagekit --disable-dependency-tracking
--disable-silent-rules --disable-static --enable-introspection
--enable-gtk-doc --disable-cron --enable-apt --enable-aptcc
--enable-smart --disable-local --disable-tests
--with-default-backend=aptcc --enable-browser-plugin
--enable-gtk-module --enable-gstreamer-plugin
--enable-command-not-found --disable-dummy
PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/pabs/opt/lib/pkgconfig CFLAGS=-g -O2 LDFLAGS=
CPPFLAGS= CXXFLAGS=-g -O2 --no-create --no-recursion
configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --enable-introspection
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking how to create a ustar tar archive... gnutar
../configure: line 3493: syntax error near unexpected token `0.6.7'
../configure: line 3493: `GOBJECT_INTROSPECTION_CHECK(0.6.7)'
make[1]: *** [config.status] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
lib/packagekit-glib2/Makefile.am:234: HAVE_INTROSPECTION does not
appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
lib/packagekit-glib2/Makefile.am:241: addprefix $(srcdir: non-POSIX
variable name
lib/packagekit-glib2/Makefile.am:241: (probably a GNU make extension)
make[1]: *** [../Makefile.in] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/buildd/packagekit-0.6.7/build'
dh_auto_build: make -j2 returned exit code 2
make: *** [build] Error 2
dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2


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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-29 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Hi!


http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.7-1.dsc
 
 A review as promised...
 
 The copyright situation is much more complex than what you present in
 debian/copyright. Please look at each file and fully document the
 license situation. It is possible to have a per-binary-package
 copyright file, which you might want to do since the libraries are
 licensed differently.
I updated the license file. Should be okay now.

 Why do you need to build in a subdirectory? Seems like it complicates
 the debian/rules file for no benefit. You can drop many of the flags
 from DEB_BASIC_AUTOTOOLS_FLAGS by using dh_auto_configure --
 $(DEB_BASIC_AUTOTOOLS_FLAGS) $(PK_CONFIGURE_FLAGS) instead. Same for
 make vs dh_auto_install.
Changed. I built in a subdirectory because I thought maybe the scripts
would create their modified file versions there so I could easily cleanup
the sources. This is not the case, so I dropped the out-of-source build as
you said.

 Why do you move the upstream helper scripts to /usr/lib?
They're scripts and should not be in /usr/share/PackageKit. In this
directory we only have documentation of PK.

 Not sure that patch removal stuff is a good idea. Better to fix
 upstream to not include generated files in the tarball.
I asked upstream to do this. As soon as the problem is fixed I will remove
the patch removal.

 Can the ln -s can be achieved with dh_link instead?
Changed.

 The watch file isn't quite as specific as it could be, I would replace
 (.*) with ([\d\.]+) and drop the blank line.
Okay, done.

 Why is most of 01_set_defaults.patch needed? Shouldn't we only need to
 change the iceweasel thing?
The patch sets the optimal settings for the APT(cc) backends for Debian.
The other settings are set to good values which Kubuntu uses too.

 02_update_aptcc.patch is a pretty big patch, has it been applied
upstream
 yet?
Yes. Will be included in the next PK release.

 For the URLs in 00_set_vendor.patch I would suggest creating new pages
 in the PackageKit namespace on the wiki focused on what PackageKit
 needs from them and based on what other distros have in the equivalent
 pages. Then make those pages CategoryPermalink.
I'll do this. Can copy the Ubuntu page with instructions how to add new
repositories? It's a pretty nice page.

 I wonder if the s/emblem-favorite/distributor-logo/ part of
 00_set_vendor.patch should be forwarded upstream.
Don't know... Fedora does not change this setting, so I think it's okay
since Richard is the maintainer of the Fedora packaging and could easily
change it upstream too.

 The browser plugin package naming has changed recently, they should no
 longer be called mozilla-* but browser-plugin-* or xul-ext-* IIRC.
Okay, changed.

 Is the smart backend useful in Debian? I can't see smart in Debian.
See http://labix.org/smart . We do have a smart package in Debian Sid.

 The upstream README duplicates the information from debian/control,
 drop it from debian/docs.
Done.

 Please add explanations to README.Debian about why things aren't
shipped.
Added.

 Would it be a good idea to turn on unit tests? That would help ensure
 the package works on all arches.
Unit tests always failed in pbuilder and while running a local debuild. I
think they're broken at time, cause Fedora has them disabled too.
I'll enable them if they do not block the build process.

 Which features of PackageKit in Fedora will not work in Debian?
 
 An automated warning:
 
 configure: WARNING: Distro upgrade notification not supported
Strange... ALL features of PackageKit the backend supports will work on
Debian. (And the APT backends do support most of the PK features) Distro
upgrade notifications have to be done by KPackageKit or GNOME-PackageKit.
But anyway I don't think it's a good idea to let PackageKit do
distro-upgrades, so APT will notify about a new distro release and do the
upgrade instead. (PackageKit won't interrupt APT working as usual)

 The package FTBFS in pbuilder:
 
 [...]

 ../configure: line 3493: syntax error near unexpected token `0.6.7'
 ../configure: line 3493: `GOBJECT_INTROSPECTION_CHECK(0.6.7)'
 make[1]: *** [config.status] Error 2
 make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 lib/packagekit-glib2/Makefile.am:234: HAVE_INTROSPECTION does not
 appear in AM_CONDITIONAL
 lib/packagekit-glib2/Makefile.am:241: addprefix $(srcdir: non-POSIX
 variable name
 lib/packagekit-glib2/Makefile.am:241: (probably a GNU make extension)
 make[1]: *** [../Makefile.in] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/buildd/packagekit-0.6.7/build'
 dh_auto_build: make -j2 returned exit code 2
 make: *** [build] Error 2
 dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
Fixed.

Thanks!


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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-28 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Hi!
I found a way to make the creation of the patch a little less annoying.
You just need to run debuild -S -sa twice, if a patch is created, and the
script will remove the patch and cleanup the sources automatically. This
keeps the debian/patches directory clean.

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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-27 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:12:47 +0800, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org
 wrote:
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.
 
 I'd like to applaud your and others efforts on this package, well done.
 
 I don't have time to do ongoing sponsorship but I will attempt to
 review the package this weekend.
Great! Most work to make PackageKit Debian-compliant was done by Daniel
Nicoletti, Richard Hughes, Sebastian Heinlein and many others.
Before you complain about this after review: Do you know a way to disable
the automatic patch creation which was introduced with the 3.0 deb format?
PackageKit updates the documentation and other files during build. This is
not undone in make distclean, so debhelper creates a huge patch in
debian/patches, which is really ugly.
Is there a workaround for this or do I have to live with it?
Thanks,
  Matthias


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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-27 Thread David Paleino
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:31:41 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:

 Before you complain about this after review: Do you know a way to disable
 the automatic patch creation which was introduced with the 3.0 deb format?
 PackageKit updates the documentation and other files during build. This is
 not undone in make distclean, so debhelper creates a huge patch in
 debian/patches, which is really ugly.
 Is there a workaround for this or do I have to live with it?

You could just use format 1.0 :)

Or disable the documentation-update-on-build, or bash upstream until they
provide already-updated documentation ;)

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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-27 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 00:50:34 +0900, Ansgar Burchardt ans...@43-1.org
wrote:
 Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org writes:
 
 Before you complain about this after review: Do you know a way to
disable
 the automatic patch creation which was introduced with the 3.0 deb
 format?
 PackageKit updates the documentation and other files during build. This
 is
 not undone in make distclean, so debhelper creates a huge patch in
 debian/patches, which is really ugly.
 
 It's not specific to the 3.0 source format, the changes would also show
 up in the .diff.gz with the old format.
 
 If the updated files are not needed for the next build, you can just
 remove them in the clean target, either by listing them in debian/clean
 with debhelper = 7 or manually in debian/rules.
I already do this, but the problem is that the script changes files, it
does not only create new ones.
So I'm completely unable to restore all files.
Cheers
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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-27 Thread Matthias Klumpp
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:37:18 +0200, David Paleino da...@debian.org
wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:31:41 +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
 
 Before you complain about this after review: Do you know a way to
disable
 the automatic patch creation which was introduced with the 3.0 deb
 format?
 PackageKit updates the documentation and other files during build. This
 is
 not undone in make distclean, so debhelper creates a huge patch in
 debian/patches, which is really ugly.
 Is there a workaround for this or do I have to live with it?
 
 You could just use format 1.0 :)
 
 Or disable the documentation-update-on-build, or bash upstream until
they
 provide already-updated documentation ;)
I'll ask upstream :) Thanks!



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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-27 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org writes:

 Before you complain about this after review: Do you know a way to disable
 the automatic patch creation which was introduced with the 3.0 deb format?
 PackageKit updates the documentation and other files during build. This is
 not undone in make distclean, so debhelper creates a huge patch in
 debian/patches, which is really ugly.

It's not specific to the 3.0 source format, the changes would also show
up in the .diff.gz with the old format.

If the updated files are not needed for the next build, you can just
remove them in the clean target, either by listing them in debian/clean
with debhelper = 7 or manually in debian/rules.

Regards,
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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-27 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Hi again!

 I already do this, but the problem is that the script changes files, it
 does not only create new ones.
 So I'm completely unable to restore all files.
 
 No, not *completely*. You can move the files that get modified, build
 everything
 and move them back in the clean target. That's a common trick.
 
 Another one is to copy all the files in a subdirectory (say, cp -va src
 tgt),
 build the package there and just remove that subdirectory in the clean
 target
 once you're done. This way, the original sources are kept intact.
Funny, a few hours ago I added exactly this for the docs/api folder.
Maybe I'll extend it to restore the other files too.
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RFS: packagekit

2010-08-26 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.

* Package name: packagekit
  Version : 0.6.7-1
  Upstream Author : Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com
* URL : http://packagekit.org
* License : GPLv2/LGPLv2
  Section : admin

It builds these binary packages:
gstreamer0.10-packagekit - GStreamer plugin to install codecs using
PackageKit
libpackagekit-glib2-14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
libpackagekit-glib2-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
mozilla-packagekit - Plugin to install missing plugins using PackageKit
packagekit - Provides a package management service
packagekit-backend-apt - Python APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-aptcc - C++ APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-smart - Smart backend for PackageKit
packagekit-bash-completion - Offer to install missing programs
automatically
packagekit-docs - Documentation for PackageKit
packagekit-gtk-module - Install fonts automatically using PackageKit
python-packagekit - PackageKit Python bindings

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 468132

My motivation for maintaining this package is: I follow the project since
version 0.2 (I think) and develop some own software on to of the PackageKit
library. I use PackageKit daily and stay in contact with upstream.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.7-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Notes: The make distclean does not reset the source code. PackageKit
re-generates the source code documentation, so debhelper will create a
patch for all those files. This is somewhat ugly, does someone know how to
disable this behavior?

Kind regards
 Matthias Klumpp


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RFS: packagekit

2010-08-26 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.

* Package name: packagekit
  Version : 0.6.7-1
  Upstream Author : Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com
* URL : http://packagekit.org
* License : GPLv2/LGPLv2
  Section : admin

It builds these binary packages:
gstreamer0.10-packagekit - GStreamer plugin to install codecs using
PackageKit
libpackagekit-glib2-14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
libpackagekit-glib2-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using GLib
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt-dev - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
(development files)
libpackagekit-qt14 - Library for accessing PackageKit using Qt4
mozilla-packagekit - Plugin to install missing plugins using PackageKit
packagekit - Provides a package management service
packagekit-backend-apt - Python APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-aptcc - C++ APT backend for PackageKit
packagekit-backend-smart - Smart backend for PackageKit
packagekit-bash-completion - Offer to install missing programs
automatically
packagekit-docs - Documentation for PackageKit
packagekit-gtk-module - Install fonts automatically using PackageKit
python-packagekit - PackageKit Python bindings

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 468132

My motivation for maintaining this package is: I follow the project since
version 0.2 (I think) and develop some own software on to of the
PackageKit
library. I use PackageKit daily and stay in contact with upstream.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/packagekit/packagekit_0.6.7-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Notes regarding packaging: The make distclean does not reset the source
code. PackageKit
re-generates the source code documentation, so debhelper will create a
patch for all those files. This is somewhat ugly, does someone know how to
disable this behavior?

Note on PackageKit:
PackageKit has Debconf support now (the APTcc backend has it) and supports
some other functions requested for Debian.

Kind regards
 Matthias Klumpp


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Re: RFS: packagekit

2010-08-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Matthias Klumpp matth...@nlinux.org wrote:

 I am looking for a sponsor for my package packagekit.

I'd like to applaud your and others efforts on this package, well done.

I don't have time to do ongoing sponsorship but I will attempt to
review the package this weekend.

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pabs

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