Re: Looking for mentor to package dolibarr erp/crm - ITP 634783
Le 30/07/2011 20:38, Arno Töll a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Laurent, On 30.07.2011 19:32, Laurent Destailleur (eldy) wrote: Now i use the dpkg-buildpackage to generate .dsc, source and binary package at once. Yes. This sounds much better. Thanks for doing this. This seems to be fixed now. Cool. I was aware of documentation that recommand usage of dpkg-buildpackage or debuild but I found also other documentation found on debian web site that was speaking about using dpgk -b and dpkg-source. So i made a choice, simply the wrong one. I try to find it again again on net but fails. Sorry if this has wasted a part of your time. Please note, these are orthogonal approaches. dpkg -b is not meant to produce useful binary packages, but just to produce a package (the physical package.deb archive that is) out of stuff you prepared by other means. dpkg-buildpackage aggregates all those steps. I removed this dependency. I added it because i found current package using it and i wanted to do like others. Not always the good way to work :-) Which package is having firefox as dependency for a _web_ service? That's serious policy violating bug. Please have a look to the Debian policy which clearly explains when to declare which dependencies. I used google some days ago to find examples but I can't remember which package it was. I can remember it was a ubuntu package, but I supposed it's same as most of them comes from debian. If i find it again, and if this is into control file of debian source, I promise to report a bug. Moreover please note, I did not point out all issues with it. I can remember, there were some more problems with your control file. I imagine you speak about dependency with apache (you speak about that at bottom of email) ? I will work soon to have package working even with lighttpd or other web server with php. I let know on mentor ML (may be dev ML is more appropriate) ? I read several times debian policies and i don't think I misunderstand what is a debian package. So let me explain my pooint of view: Dolibarr contains a web install wizard that is required (for the moment) to setup Dolibarr completely. The reason is we think debian package system can't do everything, or at least can't do sophisticated tasks, moreover when it needs a lot of conditionnal or crossed interactions with users or need sophisticated error management on databases. Please note, I don't argue against Dolibarr itself. It may be useful (or not - I don't know). I argued about the location /where/ you install it. The file hierarchy standard cleary states which files are allowed to be installed where. Moreover the policy forbids embedded code copies of libraries. Those have to be packaged separately. Have a look to §4.13 of the Debian policy. But what about if such copies are no more original copies and was used as source to be modified to build other libraries now specific to software. All opensource software contains some part of other code that was cut and paste from other licence compatible opensource software. That's a force of opensource. Do we have to build packages each time some code was extracted from other project ? Moreover some of thoses code come from project that does not exists anymore (ie artichow libraries). So code is now only maintained by the dolibarr team only, as part of dolibarr itself. Do we really have to build a secondary package for code that is used and will ever been used by dolibarr only (because contains change specific to Dolibarr) ? PHP Libraries that are used as is and not modified by Dolibarr are already removed from last package I provide (ie php-mime). The postinst - postrm actually initialize the first part of config files into /etc/dolibarr, the wizard ask missing things and do the rest . For example, the wizard can detect database table lost, problems into permissions, duplicate instances, migration process from version x to y that failed making data corrupted, etc... and fix all of this. And there is a lot of other things, like tracking installs date into software itself that is a feature required for some business usage or country needs, etc... Fair enough, but please notice it is not allowed by Debian policy to touch other package's files and/or name space and/or domain. Sure. Not a problem, Dolibarr package does not touch any file of any other package. Therefore you have to be _REALLY_ careful when you try to install data base schemes in a postinst script. Yes, that why this part is done by an online wizard. Because all the care we need can't be put into a postinst script. We spent several years to have an install wizard able to install or upgrades thousands of tables and data whatever is start situation. ... /etc/apache2/conf.d, or removing data or database when package is purged. And the wizard do the rest. Another note: Debian is meant as /universal/ operating system. We have, I think, around 10 web
Re: Looking for mentor to package dolibarr erp/crm - ITP 634783
I made all changed suggested by all answers i recevied after my first mentor request to upload Dolibarr ERP CRM : Package provided is now a source package built with dpkg-source : DSC:http://www.dolibarr.org/files/debian/dolibarr_3.1.0-1.1.dsc Source tgz: http://www.dolibarr.org/files/debian/dolibarr_3.1.0-1.1.tar.gz I still provide binary built with dpkg if needed (but should not): Binary: http://www.dolibarr.org/files/debian/dolibarr_3.1.0-dev_all.deb I removed most Lintian warnings. There is still 3 kinds of warnings: * W: embedded-javascript-libraryThis can't be avoid because package use embedded library that are different version than one provided by debian default packages and are modified specially for Dolibarr software. * W: embedded-php-library This can't be avoid because package use embedded PHP library that are different version of one provided by debian default packages and are modified specially for Dolibarr software. * W: extra-license-file This can't be avoid without removing licence files of js and php embedded library (see 2 previous points). Licence of embedded libraries are reported also into the copyright file. I tried to provide a complete copyright file, fix packages dependencies, removed not necessary embedded libraries (those remainings can't be removed and we can't use another version than the one embedded). I am waiting next feedbacks with this second try to guide me if something must be changed/fixed again. Le 21/07/2011 01:53, Arno Töll a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Laurent, On 20.07.2011 23:05, Laurent Destailleur (eldy) wrote: The package can be found on URL: http://www.dolibarr.org/files/dolibarr-3.1.0-dev.deb and Because Dolibarr is a PHP application, binary package is also source package (no compiled binaries inside). I'm afraid, but this is not true. For sponsoring, a source package is required, not a binary (.deb) package, being architecture independent or not. So please, re-upload your source package if you want to have it reviewed. However, before you do, please fix problems with it. Lintian tests report no errors. Please run lintian --pedantic -E -I dolibarr-3.1.0-dev.deb (or even better on your *.changes file) and come back if you reduced Lintian warnings to something in a more sane magnitude. Moreover please read again the maintainer guide and the policy. You are massively abusing most^W^Wsome standards, including but not limited to package relationships, embedded code copies, purpose of maintainer scripts, source code distributions and a massively too shallow copyright file. - -- with kind regards, Arno Töll IRC: daemonkeeper on Freenode/OFTC GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOJ2pgAAoJEMcrUe6dgPNtWSIQALARqTr3dY4yBKiqcXVHw3+s /CplriZKJVifQ5PjJNROLcr6G6tgLZTTvA4SPvQ5fWZVPXd47J3wm1XqUndrj+Ia 4Cm32TCpJvh+UY4ukBdtNRBb9whLVkNwp0KChBprINYoatB4e7jNYq8rdNejfoxX RMy9gBrWaSTchQ+2sNrOWm/POpnPo+4dFCc7sTeUnYZaJTCZyFYm8YoTT2tTlscD pyoigp5Ihxg6iY8gfyHR5yJw1Hp3NKmLlSlRdK5vkYU483CA4ZU7sA0epzkDQvix KcaV/aGm1xmZfKR5OyR+Jhb8vSx3hs+mGlbpDyQxWDX7Cr8JBUs0krKmgAXmAzRy ODSffhbQPLoJ1F5nd88C+9bhnFvWCPS7diEqA+zl+Wexz2iHoVxQQ42QTNDw4f4M RYREkK7r1uSt3P3MAq9UnFQwQJm43opp53O4z7SwzUT4bpic0L8ycaXI+/qzAbLE HTtqQK5XqSZHGAvpLBMh7PM6psFc46BtCduWAbOt41Y1/4TeHNKpykFov60nUDq6 HlgoE+IH8hGTGsJkmyoUOdxCA4VBheYy0FT44c21WU1IZ4PS+9wF2BdWIb3WZ7YG SCGFUdxe3/p8D8x43BaAGRHn2TXR94F1xno8SEcpj3MZDGMbQPbK/o0DEM76rG5q xPudhs47Q4wutKz8Q8M1 =h3gv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Eldy (Laurent Destailleur). --- EMail: e...@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org To make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: cont...@destailleur.fr AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net To make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: cont...@destailleur.fr AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2f4598.1060...@destailleur.fr
Re: Looking for mentor to package dolibarr erp/crm - ITP 634783
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Laurent Destailleur (eldy) e...@destailleur.fr wrote: Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for new package dolibarr. I have already to others of my opensource project packaged (awstats and cvschangelogbuilder), but i was not the packager so i have yet no experience on debian process even if i can build .deb package myself. The new package i would like someone to uplod is : * Package name : dolibarr Version : 3.1.0 Upstream Author : Laurent Destailleure...@destailleur.fr * URL :http://www.dolibarr.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: PHP Description : ERP and CRM to manage small companies, freelances or foundations Dolibarr ERP/CRM is a software built by modules addition (you enable only features you need), to manage small or medium companies, freelancers or foundations. We can say Dolibarr is an ERP or CRM (or both depending on activated modules). It's an OpenSource project base on a LAMP server (Apache, Mysql, PHP). Dolibarr was designed to provide a solution that is easy to install, easy to use and easy to develop. Dolibarr is a 10 years old project and one of the most popular Opensource ERP-CRM in France. I am looking to a mentor to close 634783 by uploading package. The package can be found on URL: http://www.dolibarr.org/files/dolibarr-3.1.0-dev.deb Lintian tests report no errors. Because Dolibarr is a PHP application, binary package is also source package (no compiled binaries inside). -- Eldy (Laurent Destailleur). --- EMail: e...@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org To make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: cont...@destailleur.fr AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net To make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: cont...@destailleur.fr AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e274310.1090...@destailleur.fr Hi, Instead of providing a binary .deb package, please consider providing a link to a .dsc source control file. Thanks! Kind regards, - Vincent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caczd_tbyfule9++dwpchwdl_zeb2ks+7r6n-7do+htmonka...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Looking for mentor to package dolibarr erp/crm - ITP 634783
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Laurent, On 20.07.2011 23:05, Laurent Destailleur (eldy) wrote: The package can be found on URL: http://www.dolibarr.org/files/dolibarr-3.1.0-dev.deb and Because Dolibarr is a PHP application, binary package is also source package (no compiled binaries inside). I'm afraid, but this is not true. For sponsoring, a source package is required, not a binary (.deb) package, being architecture independent or not. So please, re-upload your source package if you want to have it reviewed. However, before you do, please fix problems with it. Lintian tests report no errors. Please run lintian --pedantic -E -I dolibarr-3.1.0-dev.deb (or even better on your *.changes file) and come back if you reduced Lintian warnings to something in a more sane magnitude. Moreover please read again the maintainer guide and the policy. You are massively abusing most^W^Wsome standards, including but not limited to package relationships, embedded code copies, purpose of maintainer scripts, source code distributions and a massively too shallow copyright file. - -- with kind regards, Arno Töll IRC: daemonkeeper on Freenode/OFTC GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOJ2pgAAoJEMcrUe6dgPNtWSIQALARqTr3dY4yBKiqcXVHw3+s /CplriZKJVifQ5PjJNROLcr6G6tgLZTTvA4SPvQ5fWZVPXd47J3wm1XqUndrj+Ia 4Cm32TCpJvh+UY4ukBdtNRBb9whLVkNwp0KChBprINYoatB4e7jNYq8rdNejfoxX RMy9gBrWaSTchQ+2sNrOWm/POpnPo+4dFCc7sTeUnYZaJTCZyFYm8YoTT2tTlscD pyoigp5Ihxg6iY8gfyHR5yJw1Hp3NKmLlSlRdK5vkYU483CA4ZU7sA0epzkDQvix KcaV/aGm1xmZfKR5OyR+Jhb8vSx3hs+mGlbpDyQxWDX7Cr8JBUs0krKmgAXmAzRy ODSffhbQPLoJ1F5nd88C+9bhnFvWCPS7diEqA+zl+Wexz2iHoVxQQ42QTNDw4f4M RYREkK7r1uSt3P3MAq9UnFQwQJm43opp53O4z7SwzUT4bpic0L8ycaXI+/qzAbLE HTtqQK5XqSZHGAvpLBMh7PM6psFc46BtCduWAbOt41Y1/4TeHNKpykFov60nUDq6 HlgoE+IH8hGTGsJkmyoUOdxCA4VBheYy0FT44c21WU1IZ4PS+9wF2BdWIb3WZ7YG SCGFUdxe3/p8D8x43BaAGRHn2TXR94F1xno8SEcpj3MZDGMbQPbK/o0DEM76rG5q xPudhs47Q4wutKz8Q8M1 =h3gv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e276a61.6090...@toell.net
Re: Looking for mentor to package dolibarr erp/crm - ITP 634783
Le 21/07/2011 01:53, Arno Töll a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Laurent, On 20.07.2011 23:05, Laurent Destailleur (eldy) wrote: The package can be found on URL: http://www.dolibarr.org/files/dolibarr-3.1.0-dev.deb and Because Dolibarr is a PHP application, binary package is also source package (no compiled binaries inside). I'm afraid, but this is not true. For sponsoring, a source package is required, not a binary (.deb) package, being architecture independent or not. So please, re-upload your source package if you want to have it reviewed. However, before you do, please fix problems with it. Lintian tests report no errors. Please run lintian --pedantic -E -I dolibarr-3.1.0-dev.deb (or even better on your *.changes file) and come back if you reduced Lintian warnings to something in a more sane magnitude. Moreover please read again the maintainer guide and the policy. You are massively abusing most^W^Wsome standards, including but not limited to package relationships, embedded code copies, purpose of maintainer scripts, source code distributions and a massively too shallow copyright file. Thanks for feedbacks. I will works on all this and will send another mail request once all those things are corrected... - -- with kind regards, Arno Töll IRC: daemonkeeper on Freenode/OFTC GnuPG Key-ID: 0x9D80F36D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOJ2pgAAoJEMcrUe6dgPNtWSIQALARqTr3dY4yBKiqcXVHw3+s /CplriZKJVifQ5PjJNROLcr6G6tgLZTTvA4SPvQ5fWZVPXd47J3wm1XqUndrj+Ia 4Cm32TCpJvh+UY4ukBdtNRBb9whLVkNwp0KChBprINYoatB4e7jNYq8rdNejfoxX RMy9gBrWaSTchQ+2sNrOWm/POpnPo+4dFCc7sTeUnYZaJTCZyFYm8YoTT2tTlscD pyoigp5Ihxg6iY8gfyHR5yJw1Hp3NKmLlSlRdK5vkYU483CA4ZU7sA0epzkDQvix KcaV/aGm1xmZfKR5OyR+Jhb8vSx3hs+mGlbpDyQxWDX7Cr8JBUs0krKmgAXmAzRy ODSffhbQPLoJ1F5nd88C+9bhnFvWCPS7diEqA+zl+Wexz2iHoVxQQ42QTNDw4f4M RYREkK7r1uSt3P3MAq9UnFQwQJm43opp53O4z7SwzUT4bpic0L8ycaXI+/qzAbLE HTtqQK5XqSZHGAvpLBMh7PM6psFc46BtCduWAbOt41Y1/4TeHNKpykFov60nUDq6 HlgoE+IH8hGTGsJkmyoUOdxCA4VBheYy0FT44c21WU1IZ4PS+9wF2BdWIb3WZ7YG SCGFUdxe3/p8D8x43BaAGRHn2TXR94F1xno8SEcpj3MZDGMbQPbK/o0DEM76rG5q xPudhs47Q4wutKz8Q8M1 =h3gv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Eldy (Laurent Destailleur). --- EMail: e...@destailleur.fr Web: http://www.destailleur.fr Dolibarr (Project leader): http://www.dolibarr.org To make a donation for Dolibarr project via Paypal: cont...@destailleur.fr AWStats (Author) : http://awstats.sourceforge.net To make a donation for AWStats project via Paypal: cont...@destailleur.fr AWBot (Author) : http://awbot.sourceforge.net CVSChangeLogBuilder (Author) : http://cvschangelogb.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e277595.6030...@destailleur.fr
