Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-28 Thread Kees Cook
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 09:03:25PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 08:09:32PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
  /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
  the right place for it.
 
 Ack!  Hmm.  I was generally using tuxracer's debian files as an example, 
 and they use /usr/games (as does fortune-mod).

So, what is needed from me to move forward with getting the 
orbitalsniper package finished?

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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-28 Thread Kees Cook
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 09:03:25PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 08:09:32PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
  /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
  the right place for it.
 
 Ack!  Hmm.  I was generally using tuxracer's debian files as an example, 
 and they use /usr/games (as does fortune-mod).

So, what is needed from me to move forward with getting the 
orbitalsniper package finished?

-- 
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-25 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 22:09, Brian Nelson wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
  
   Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
   match.
  
One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
   into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.
  
For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.
 
 /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
 the right place for it.

http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#REQUIREMENTS9

It's still there.
(Please don't scare me like that in the future.)
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-25 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 01:59:03AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 22:09, Brian Nelson wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
   On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
   
Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
match.
   
 One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.
   
 For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.
  
  /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
  the right place for it.
 
 http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#REQUIREMENTS9

It's listed as optional though.  Does that mean it's deprecated or
anything?  I'm surprised putting games in /usr/games would still be
considered a good idea.

 It's still there.
 (Please don't scare me like that in the future.)

Heh, sorry.  A text search for usr/games on that page didn't show
anything...

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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-25 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 12:17, Brian Nelson wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 01:59:03AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
  On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 22:09, Brian Nelson wrote:
   On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:

 Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
 match.

  One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
 into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.

  For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.
   
   /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
   the right place for it.
  
  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#REQUIREMENTS9
 
 It's listed as optional though.  Does that mean it's deprecated or
 anything?

I think it just means you don't need it to be an FHS-compliant system,
like, say, /usr/bin. Other such cases are /home, /root, and /bin/gzip
(none of which, I hope, are deprecated).

 I'm surprised putting games in /usr/games would still be considered
 a good idea.

While I don't have any use for separating games from other executables,
I can imagine situations where it might be desirable (e.g. school
computer labs where /usr is mounted from a central server, but only
certain people or certain systems are gaming-allowed).
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-25 Thread Kees Cook
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 08:09:32PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
 /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
 the right place for it.

Ack!  Hmm.  I was generally using tuxracer's debian files as an example, 
and they use /usr/games (as does fortune-mod).

... what's the verdict on this?

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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-25 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 22:09, Brian Nelson wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
  
   Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
   match.
  
One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
   into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.
  
For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.
 
 /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
 the right place for it.

http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#REQUIREMENTS9

It's still there.
(Please don't scare me like that in the future.)
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-25 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 01:59:03AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 22:09, Brian Nelson wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
   On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
   
Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
match.
   
 One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.
   
 For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.
  
  /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
  the right place for it.
 
 http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#REQUIREMENTS9

It's listed as optional though.  Does that mean it's deprecated or
anything?  I'm surprised putting games in /usr/games would still be
considered a good idea.

 It's still there.
 (Please don't scare me like that in the future.)

Heh, sorry.  A text search for usr/games on that page didn't show
anything...

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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-25 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 12:17, Brian Nelson wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 01:59:03AM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
  On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 22:09, Brian Nelson wrote:
   On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:

 Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources 
 to 
 match.

  One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
 into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.

  For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.
   
   /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
   the right place for it.
  
  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#REQUIREMENTS9
 
 It's listed as optional though.  Does that mean it's deprecated or
 anything?

I think it just means you don't need it to be an FHS-compliant system,
like, say, /usr/bin. Other such cases are /home, /root, and /bin/gzip
(none of which, I hope, are deprecated).

 I'm surprised putting games in /usr/games would still be considered
 a good idea.

While I don't have any use for separating games from other executables,
I can imagine situations where it might be desirable (e.g. school
computer labs where /usr is mounted from a central server, but only
certain people or certain systems are gaming-allowed).
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Kees Cook
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 04:09:56PM +0300, Eugeniy Meshcheryakov wrote:
  deb http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
  deb-src http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
  
 IMHO package name should be the same as executable name.

Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
match.  In gentoo, this package is called orbital-eunuchs-sniper, but 
the New Maintainers doc says to keep package names under 20 characters.  
Also, it seems that for packaging, only sub-elements of a package get a 
dash in their name.  I suppose I could call it orbitaleunuchssniper.  
What do people think?

 Bug report:
 It does not work is sound card is busy (nasd running for example):

I'll forward this on to the icculus bugzilla.

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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:

 Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
 match.

  One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
 into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.

  For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.

Steve
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
 
  Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
  match.
 
   One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
  into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.
 
   For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.

/usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
the right place for it.

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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Kees Cook
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
  Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
  match.
 
   One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
  into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.
 
   For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.

Oh!  Yes, good catch.  Okay, repackaged again.

Should I bump the package number for these kinds of repackagings prior 
to real release?  I didn't this time: it's still 1.29-1:

deb http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
deb-src http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/

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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Kees Cook
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 08:09:32PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
 /usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
 the right place for it.

Ack!  Hmm.  I was generally using tuxracer's debian files as an example, 
and they use /usr/games (as does fortune-mod).

... what's the verdict on this?

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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Kees Cook
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 04:09:56PM +0300, Eugeniy Meshcheryakov wrote:
  deb http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
  deb-src http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
  
 IMHO package name should be the same as executable name.

Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
match.  In gentoo, this package is called orbital-eunuchs-sniper, but 
the New Maintainers doc says to keep package names under 20 characters.  
Also, it seems that for packaging, only sub-elements of a package get a 
dash in their name.  I suppose I could call it orbitaleunuchssniper.  
What do people think?

 Bug report:
 It does not work is sound card is busy (nasd running for example):

I'll forward this on to the icculus bugzilla.

-- 
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:

 Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
 match.

  One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
 into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.

  For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.

Steve
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 11:59:29AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
 
  Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
  match.
 
   One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
  into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.
 
   For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.

/usr/games doesn't appear in the FHS (anymore?).  I think /usr/bin is
the right place for it.

-- 
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-24 Thread Kees Cook
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 10:00:31PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
  Okay, I've renamed this to orbitalsniper and adjusted the sources to 
  match.
 
   One thing that stood out was that the binary isn't installed 
  into /usr/games/, instead you chose /usr/bin.
 
   For a game that is suprising, so I'd suggest moving it.

Oh!  Yes, good catch.  Okay, repackaged again.

Should I bump the package number for these kinds of repackagings prior 
to real release?  I didn't this time: it's still 1.29-1:

deb http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
deb-src http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/

-- 
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-23 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
23.10.2004  01:57 -0700 Kees Cook (-):
 Package: oesniper
 License: Free: same as zlib
 URL: http://www.icculus.org/oes/
 Desc: An anti-terrorist, pro-Eunuchs satellite sniping game
 
 Hi!  This is my first attempt at a debian package.  This is from the 
 icculus game archives.  It's small, simple, and fun, with a Free 
 license.
 
 My sources:
 
 deb http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
 deb-src http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
 
 
 I've written a man page, corrected paths, and applied a patch from the 
 icculus bugzilla to fix a segfault.  It passes lintian, and my eyes are 
 bleeding from reading all the Debian docs.  :)
 
 Can someone look this over, give me some tips, and let me know if I've 
 missed anything?  Thanks!  I'm excited about finally getting my feet wet 
 with debian packaging.
 
 My big concern is that the original package is distributed as
 orbital_eunuchs_sniper, the executable in the package is snipe2d,
 and the CVS tree is named oes.  So I kinda took the approach of a 20
 character name that was more specific that oes, and made a man page
 for both oesniper and snipe2d.
 
IMHO package name should be the same as executable name.

Bug report:
It does not work is sound card is busy (nasd running for example):

ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1155:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed:
Device or resource busy
Mix_OpenAudio(): No available audio device
Fatal signal: Floating Point Exception (SDL Parachute Deployed)

Even when I choose No sound in preferences.

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Kyiv National Taras Shevchenko University
Information and Computing Centre
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Re: RFS: icculus's orbital sniper game

2004-10-23 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
23.10.2004 о 01:57 -0700 Kees Cook написав(-ла):
 Package: oesniper
 License: Free: same as zlib
 URL: http://www.icculus.org/oes/
 Desc: An anti-terrorist, pro-Eunuchs satellite sniping game
 
 Hi!  This is my first attempt at a debian package.  This is from the 
 icculus game archives.  It's small, simple, and fun, with a Free 
 license.
 
 My sources:
 
 deb http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
 deb-src http://www.outflux.net/debian unstable/
 
 
 I've written a man page, corrected paths, and applied a patch from the 
 icculus bugzilla to fix a segfault.  It passes lintian, and my eyes are 
 bleeding from reading all the Debian docs.  :)
 
 Can someone look this over, give me some tips, and let me know if I've 
 missed anything?  Thanks!  I'm excited about finally getting my feet wet 
 with debian packaging.
 
 My big concern is that the original package is distributed as
 orbital_eunuchs_sniper, the executable in the package is snipe2d,
 and the CVS tree is named oes.  So I kinda took the approach of a 20
 character name that was more specific that oes, and made a man page
 for both oesniper and snipe2d.
 
IMHO package name should be the same as executable name.

Bug report:
It does not work is sound card is busy (nasd running for example):

ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1155:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed:
Device or resource busy
Mix_OpenAudio(): No available audio device
Fatal signal: Floating Point Exception (SDL Parachute Deployed)

Even when I choose No sound in preferences.

Regards,
-- 
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Kyiv National Taras Shevchenko University
Information and Computing Centre
http://icc.univ.kiev.ua


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