Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 09:33:38AM +, Raphael Hertzog wrote: furthermore I'm not even sure that James has the time to follow what's happening on the DM side. ^^ you meant Debian right ? -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpcKwmUYHION.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 09:17:43AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: If I understand properly, people are against NMs becoming DMs, even for a short period of time, because they really should become DDs, and the Not any NM, this particular NM (and around 30 other like him) is at the stage where they should get their account, only waiting for James. Why are people adding them to the DM keyring instead of kicking James where he deserves ? Because Debian is mostly about Do what you're interested in. If those people are interested in adding people to the DM keyring, let them do it. I fail to see how you think you should know better than themselves how to spend their time on Debian. In the meantime, you et al. can kick James all you want yourself, as you seem to be very interested in that. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 11:24:11AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: Because Debian is mostly about Do what you're interested in. If those people are interested in adding people to the DM keyring, let them do it. 100% agree. Plus, I think that if many clever solutions have started as workarounds, then it's stupid to stifle a workaround while waiting for a clever solution to arrive. So, as I said with Miriam, I support José as a DM even if I too would have liked to see his account created long ago. Ciao, Enrico -- GPG key: 1024D/797EBFAB 2000-12-05 Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
On dim, 2007-11-18 at 11:24 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: Because Debian is mostly about Do what you're interested in. What if people prevent you to do what you're interested in? -- Yves-Alexis Perez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 11:34:38AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On dim, 2007-11-18 at 11:24 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: Because Debian is mostly about Do what you're interested in. What if people prevent you to do what you're interested in? Does James prevent you to kick him? Or do you mean James prevents DM people to get added to the DM keyring? Maybe James prevents other people to do other stuff, but I fail to see why the DM applicants should be held hostage for that, just because with them it's most easy to do so. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newmaint - New Maintainer Application
This is to request that I be endorsed as a Debian Maintainer I have four packages in Debian, one of which is under fairly active development and for which I am upstream, (sisu) which was first uploaded to Debian in July 2005 (by Gunnar Wolf at Debconf 5), (one of which consisting of sample marked up writings is to be found in non-free as the authors' substantive text are not to be changed). http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I acknowledge and adhere to the Debian Social Contract, the Debian Free Software guidelines and will adhere to the Debian Machine Usage Policies My upload sponsors have primarily been Wookey (who wrote suggesting I apply now), and Daniel Baumann, both of whom I hope will support this application. Thank you, Sincerely, Ralph Amissah signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Newmaint - New Maintainer Application
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ralph Amissah wrote: My upload sponsors have primarily been Wookey (who wrote suggesting I apply now), and Daniel Baumann, both of whom I hope will support this application. Ralph Amissah is the only person I know, where I'm fine to advocate him for becoming a Debian Maintainer. I do completely trust him to use the privileges of a Debian Maintainer wisely, I am confident in his technical and social skils, and therefore, I do hereby support his application to become a Debian Maintainer. On the other hand, I certainly will miss his sponsoring request. It is a pleasure to review his packages and to hear about the latest and greatest of SiSU. Regards, Daniel - -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQJJH+C5cwEsrK54RAlV2AJ9lhef7AI3XfPkXON+gdp2uY0hniACglGTn zh4AiHJKwFbcFacz6BWnQbQ= =5Vir -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 06:15:00PM +, Micah Anderson wrote: * Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071118 00:17]: On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 07:28:00AM +, Micah Anderson wrote: * Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071117 09:28]: On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 05:00:56PM +, Micah Anderson wrote: How long should people wait until about to be added to the DD one... would be considered too long and adding to the DM one to get around the wait is reasonable? What if we fix that problem, and concentrate only on that one, instead of trying to circumvent it with ersatz ? What if we do both? Or are we unable to do two things at once? I feel as if what I said here still is a valid question that was unanswered in your email. Because I felt this was obvious. Adding one person to the DM or DD keyring requires the same amount of work, so why shouldn't we add him _directly_ in the proper place ? We're doing exactly what I feared: DM will prevent people from fixing the real issues with the NM queue. How exactly is this happening? I saw no answer to this question either. Who do you see fixing NM right now ? I see plenty of people trying to make DM work though. I agree that DM for NMs past PP make sense, a lot. So why are you blocking this again? he's not _just_ past PP, he's at the: PP + TS + FD Approved + DAM Approved stage. If you don't get the difference, please note that I do. -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O[EMAIL PROTECTED] OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgpKqx9fARL2o.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newmaint - New Maintainer Application
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 06:02:43PM +, Ralph Amissah wrote: This is to request that I be endorsed as a Debian Maintainer [...] My upload sponsors have primarily been Wookey (who wrote suggesting I apply now), and Daniel Baumann, both of whom I hope will support this application. On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 07:27:31PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: I want to advocate his inclusion in the DM keyring. Ralph is certainly technically competent and he is really nice to work with. Please don't forget to file a bug report against the debian-maintainers package to get this to actually happen: Applications are made by filing a bug against the debian-maintainers package -- please see its README file for instructions on what information is needed, and how to put it together. -- http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/11/msg4.html Cheers, aj signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: AM report for Miriam Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 04:25:33PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: I recommend to accept Miriam as a Debian Developer. I second this recommendation. She is pleasant to work with, and the packages I've seen from her were good. Most importantly, she is able to keep Debian fun for the people she works with. Thanks, Bas -- I encourage people to send encrypted e-mail (see http://www.gnupg.org). If you have problems reading my e-mail, use a better reader. Please send the central message of e-mails as plain text in the message body, not as HTML and definitely not as MS Word. Please do not use the MS Word format for attachments either. For more information, see http://pcbcn10.phys.rug.nl/e-mail.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Rejection of Justin Pryzby's application
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi The application of Justin has been stalled for over one year. As he has currently no time nor motivation to complete the process, I think it's best to drop the application at this point. Justin is free to reapply anytime in the future... Cheers Luk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQLOK5UTeB5t8Mo0RAiDGAJ49tEUihoV9GxkRi73u3rbxX4n2ngCdHgv/ E6GWzbw4SvfeA/2ulEB+VYY= =bEoX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ryan Finnie statement for DM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I, Ryan Finnie, understand, acknowledge and agree with the Debian Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines, and Debian Machine Usage Policies. Stand by for advocacy in 3... 2... 1... Ryan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQLX3KZYQqSA+yiURApAgAJ9BmKc4PSUxNITFcdauRJF7fGblQwCZAcIQ f3V5iHdV7AGClQEhbI8IA7o= =dxwQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
* Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071118 11:50]: On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 06:15:00PM +, Micah Anderson wrote: * Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071118 00:17]: On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 07:28:00AM +, Micah Anderson wrote: * Pierre Habouzit [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071117 09:28]: On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 05:00:56PM +, Micah Anderson wrote: How long should people wait until about to be added to the DD one... would be considered too long and adding to the DM one to get around the wait is reasonable? What if we fix that problem, and concentrate only on that one, instead of trying to circumvent it with ersatz ? What if we do both? Or are we unable to do two things at once? I feel as if what I said here still is a valid question that was unanswered in your email. Because I felt this was obvious. Adding one person to the DM or DD keyring requires the same amount of work, so why shouldn't we add him _directly_ in the proper place ? If the answer was obvious, I wouldn't have asked the question. I dont think anyone would disagree that if we were given the choice, adding him _directly_ to the proper keyring (DD) would be the preferable one. However, we don't have that choice, and there is a clear backlog for adding people to that keyring. We do have the choice of adding him to the DM keyring, which is a step *up* from where he is now, until he is properly added to the DD keyring, which will be another steup up from DM. We're doing exactly what I feared: DM will prevent people from fixing the real issues with the NM queue. How exactly is this happening? I saw no answer to this question either. Who do you see fixing NM right now ? I see plenty of people trying to make DM work though. This makes no sense. I dont see how the request to add this person to DM is causing people to not fix NM, they are totally unrelated. Unless you are making the argument that everyone who eats food is not fixing NM also? I agree that DM for NMs past PP make sense, a lot. So why are you blocking this again? he's not _just_ past PP, he's at the: PP + TS + FD Approved + DAM Approved stage. If you don't get the difference, please note that I do. PP + TS + FD Approved + DAM Approved stage = past PP What it sounds like you are saying is that when someone passes PP they can be added to DM, but when they pass PP and then pass TS they can't be added to DM? Passing PP means passing PP, it doesn't mean passing PP but not passing anything more. Micah signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Rejection of Justin Pryzby's application
On Nov 19, 2007 7:20 AM, Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The application of Justin has been stalled for over one year. As he has currently no time nor motivation to complete the process, I think it's best to drop the application at this point. :( that is a real shame! Justin is free to reapply anytime in the future... And strongly encouraged to reapply, Debian would definitely be a better distribution and community if Justin were to become a developer. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advocate key for Tobias Toedter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear debian-newmaint: I'm writing to advocate Tobias Toedter for the DM process. I'm forwarding my email advocating his entry into the NM queue nearly 4 years ago. I feel the same way about working with Tobias as I did when I wrote this email in February of 2004. Furthermore, he has shown a long-standing commitment to Debian during the intervening years, which I believe further strengthens his credentials for DM privileges. Please contact me if you have any questions regarding my work with Tobias. Thank you, Tony Mancill tony mancill wrote: On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:57:42PM +0100, NM Front Desk wrote: Auth-Key: nmauth1a82ccfa6f60a1b233e3f8f8ad44930b Applicant: Tobias Toedter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why do you advocate this person? (please provide a 5-10 line summary; note that this comment will be cited on a public mailing list): I am advocating Tobias Toedter to join Debian as a developer because I believe that he possesses the skills, attitude, maturity, and patience necessary to successfully perform the duties of a DD. Furthermore, I believe that his philosophical approach to Free Software is compatible with that of the goals set forth by the project. In the 10+ months that I sponsored Tobias, I have enjoyed working with him, finding him responsive and knowledgeable, without being either arrogant or intolerant. Finally, insofar as is possible in a relationship constituted by virtual contact, I trust Tobias, and readily vouch for his NM application. Cheers, tony ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Better the pride that resides in a citizen of http://www.debian.org | the world, than the pride that divides, | when a colorful rag is unfurled.(Peart) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQSKJpdwBkPlyvgMRAnrwAJ9EUGnl+UYRmn09f4g7A6YYmRLtwQCePmf+ cAvYCv1xAm8bcsRHyjZ9Vq4= =wC3o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recommending Tobias Toedter as Debian Maintainer
I hereby recommend Tobias Toedter [EMAIL PROTECTED] as Debian Maintainer. Tobias joined the iso-codes maintenance team a while ago (early 2006) and progressively became the most important and active member in the team, managing to prepare several releases of the package since July 2006. These releases were sponsored by myself and, as of now, no error happened and this always demonstrated a good knowledge of Debian package maintenance and processes. Tobias did a great work to better separate Debian maintenance from upstream maintenance and prepared many releases. In short, I personnally trust him entirely to do releases as good as mine (and most often better ones). He has also a good practice of team interactions with great social skills and good relations woth other team members, whether they're former developers or new contributors. Therefore, I recommend him as Debian Maintainer and would be glad to make the next iso-codes upload with him listed as package maintainer. -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
