Re: Patch to fix ambiguity in AL5

2009-08-14 Thread Enrico Zini 
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:12:36PM -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote:

  +AL5. What target in debian/rules would you use in debian/rules
 ^^^   ^^^

Thanks. It's fixed now.

Ciao,

Enrico

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Re: http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips

2009-08-14 Thread Enrico Zini 
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:21:32PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:

 The first bit that I wanted to add to it was Things to do before asking
 questions from the templates, where I'd like to condensate some of the
 things discussed during Debconf.
 
 I've already added it to the wiki page, but then I thought it's best to
 brainstorm entries here before putting them in the page. So here it is,
 I'll take care of updating the wiki after the brainstorming:
 
 == Things to do before asking questions from the templates ==
 
  1. Use http://ddportfolio.debian.net/ and the
 
 [[http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/nm/trunk/nm-templates/minechangelogs|minechangelogs]]
 script to look for comprehensive Debian activity; if found, just ask
 about philosophy and very little of procedures.
  2. If comprehensive Debian activity is not easily seen, ask advocate to
 provide links to external or non-visible activity: maybe there is much
 more than meets the eye.
  3. If there is still something that you feel like you need to know,
 ask. Pick questions from the templates if you consider them useful. The
 more you find in point 1 and 2, the less is likely to be needed at this
 point.
  4. If no particular Debian activity is found and the advocate cannot
 provide good reasons for continuing with the application, soft reject.

How about an upside down approach instead?

 1. Take all questions from the templates.

 2. Use http://ddportfolio.debian.net/ and the

[[http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/nm/trunk/nm-templates/minechangelogs|minechangelogs]]
script to look for comprehensive Debian activity; if found,
remove the questions about those things that you can see the
applicant already knows.

For really good candidates, this can mean going all the way to
removing all TS and Procedures, and just include in the AM report
the output of minechangelogs and the other things that you found.
Don't waste the time of excellent people.

 3. If comprehensive Debian activity is not easily seen, ask the
advocate to provide links to external or non-visible activity: maybe
there is much more than meets the eye. If found, remove the
questions that you can see the applicant already knows.

 4. Ask the questions that remain, or give practical tasks on those
remaining areas that you'd like to explore with the applicant.

If no activity in or outside Debian is found, it may be a better
idea to not ask any question at all and just reject the applicant.
Discuss with the advocate if unsure.

Is this way clearer?


Ciao,

Enrico

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