Re: Adam Borowski: Declaration of intent to become a DD, upl.
On 17115 March 1977, Geert Stappers wrote: >I would like to reapply to change my status in Debian >back to Debian Developer, uploading. > ..., and would like to continue the battle to dethrone gregoa >from the #1 all-time spot Oh hell no. I really don't think we need or want him back, given history here. FWIW: I would like[1] to have a better[2] Adam back. An Adam who has addressed / acknowledged the points from the past that led to the current status and took precautions to ensure it won't end up the same, yes. An Adam where the project can be sure it will not just be a repeated history. Coming back is fine - unless it is for exact the same as before. Right now *I* fail to see that. It *appears* more like "Just wait off the time, people will forget, reapply and continue as before". I would hope its not like this, but it does look a lot like it. I assume that "battle" and "dethrone" where sends a joke, but want to have that expressed expliciet. Or want other text in the motivation on why returning to previous status[3]. Just explaining those two words away is *not* going to make people look favorable at the application. Not with the person who used them. -- Silence is hard to parse That quote fits entirely too well in this case. -- bye, Joerg
Aloïs Micard: Application Manager report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For nm.debian.org, at 2021-06-20: After looking at Aloïs Micard 's contributions and after exchanging some emails to get to know them a bit better, I agree with the advocate(s) that Aloïs Micard can and should indeed be a Debian Developer, uploading right now. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcty+znVan90Ug4AV81V4v5iAVmAFAmDPpZsACgkQ81V4v5iA VmBnShAAsUR2S5nihoqfMN3nIQoUPKf/0WyPdHkqoAEhSN0JplJy5rIdHjdQVyrc apYWd/Df/f3q12AcWWe76nke4XoXABrP78oAGF0rpQjoeZ5JnBonFTFtyH+oqzOu s4S0kSK2yLU++KE3bcJbZllKPp0LCpEu0QOnl8FYRLypqfAbp8uSDOUhsCsuMU3c 7soCqirHlMZXL4C/WojoqWSnr4Jvd4a62u9Ue1Pe7fa2Odf33uK3PhdWWeLIj8Wh j8kZKFm+4KtHyMII5q+amVoekM13jIve2MShZxL9JD+v9o7TjDXcrfJXrZyqZmrW V3pVdyiJ6Xp+0r/HjTm2QTUFtmZFC3xquB4IXdUEWPPV+i9ARV0/MG76+FSxU4gD mWaVGi4pSQITaKocTtvd5Ley1O73bPnxW5fQkjQssQOw/vmhRcuJoL8cTXeCmN7a bz+JmGv20QPDmAkjjYUzNTXeN/jHqy2bIkWk0Lr+75N5r5QyawS2a2cix2X+o4Cn QrGNndxBLGwqQ+2w17BYXeKsjfiyr6mTF2A9M9q1Fk6rb0QLyNtSWp7Mq1IOxrMP LzpF22pcZMlbLZ+L3QRhOLz95NSCxTvCC+ZtukhtlF788Mx/KLHwzA5ndJJ+q1NS FQdrXITP5xitsfkBp99JpvBlOKEzxkCnqKS/l6qLsGDoEuJ90ds= =uYSw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Joerg Jaspert (via nm.debian.org) For details and to comment, visit https://nm.debian.org/process/884/ -- https://nm.debian.org/process/884/
Sophie Brun: Application Manager report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For nm.debian.org, at 2021-06-20: After looking at Sophie Brun 's contributions and after exchanging some emails to get to know them a bit better, I agree with the advocate(s) that Sophie Brun can and should indeed be a Debian Developer, uploading right now. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcty+znVan90Ug4AV81V4v5iAVmAFAmDPodUACgkQ81V4v5iA VmAz3BAA00F7mSCAzoNp7UxRfPhmwc9pJQj7Qrth27RwEPwlVug0ELh8A9H94T8d NmW3ZtqonYW877T87jhbSACXp5VTio6GTtnnf/M3E0f3qkITHl7TO65EnEtGVg/G TtX1gzqRJ+fUbNhGpe0Slv5CkLCtoe1cHoTBY9PsyaWn/PBF8TvFmtFT3Fut9KCQ I82RstF00/5jE/7Hwlu0s6So6Lj7P+Abjpu6aRa1EnqpFgb3dtkzUoHRPLB7XYLl 4zV4Pr67zcQkrpry5BOC31OIAGpAqJYyZuZqjoPhGa0KEsoP1wXxi1j2k58xqTPr btN4KniiM7UtKOIdP4rgam+TZWsOmxQk/GMZ+YDNd2WMhPhDND1TUU+VYLdzrCdd Myn1YBcPRk/Kc93vinSBbdTLvATnNpKdmarB5k2TEfXC8qpgsILrZ6ryknS0gw9I +8ZKSKpKzkVIulyqw24ggZGUQ55M8T5E1K62uWphAOyYd+nfPU7OE14wKuZsVFnh iZ2KltxfWuipeRlszSRbBwFHA4hDpbS6OqOSM/Y9F3Pr3Z67uZlu5nJWd3RHlxCW o7CLW7jppEVfJtl8tqMbFgOnvGi5U2d6wjjsmwZZ5PuM37tJeAF5tQi7y0grydEq EoQYtUcphvFdbc8CisUQ2qL8KVduMXCU8YrslnDmA8rGMN1Ey4Y= =z+Rc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Joerg Jaspert (via nm.debian.org) For details and to comment, visit https://nm.debian.org/process/879/ -- https://nm.debian.org/process/879/
Baptiste Beauplat: Application Manager report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For nm.debian.org, at 2021-03-02: Having had a mail exchange with Baptiste Beauplat and finally looked at some of his packaging work to get to know them a bit better, I do agree that Baptiste Beauplat can and should indeed be a Debian Developer, uploading right now. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcty+znVan90Ug4AV81V4v5iAVmAFAmA+tS4ACgkQ81V4v5iA VmBfeQ//YQbnX4SYys+L9SvmHEkC27OHbGEc86PMWIEr5+66vCeVNlhrVE2CDIBU ubZVZXv90fEzAajhIOfjJ6Mg6yDQO3hAB5CB6YgCmijFNH8jhvUj/0cs7e5cLQuQ weQFpR2LOX5VTAtUgsbOxzoY7KohH0nGVdXd0Ob4gSk5ML75j+CXfmVJCupvkzwT /dDzVmap7j98WYHEnf2cE9UZSHR7LOeE+Yq/nLw/K6WeE94FF3LipeyfarMG5tQF 18b0a6thNK1XZ5+peGC5QEYZLJaDUKDDMkkAy6fb21yVFnenkte3nMtnaoV3f/Hs 76uI8Xueo5ffOJACxfxljX66fRGDoSuFW2H4eFiyXtCsxBU/evTyzBUDjHSQ5GRm XHdZoVMIRyWKX8eI8derhzUChPpJ1zQG2RxLhYVT2OxcNoeLrsQKnn38rzhjf4WL XT+sPfXuqOWcCQxGFWtNRc5yZiioguGZ0ZnRP/a3FFt/c8UJff5/HSups3nbvDPA 3i6kv8uQAilJLJZcQU6DOAmoAoba6/eBaUXgwRbgzBBJqDNF6tOFdlQeK6xNOpC4 MFSwe8RKBtsFfwnbT8AwaKs0R9sKg6beMLlcZSyikzeXMr51RC5+MgybKlHM7r7C f0jYJcr5nH/Wifrne0PkMqhEc25EaOauS5fxXUDJon9Ew58LyQI= =cOkB -END PGP SIGNATURE- Joerg Jaspert (via nm.debian.org) For details and to comment, visit https://nm.debian.org/process/828/ -- https://nm.debian.org/process/828/
Joseph Nahmias: Application Manager report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For nm.debian.org, at 2020-09-10: Joseph Nahmias is an emeritus DD that wants to come back. Did a short checkup exchanging some emails with him and agree that he can have his account back. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcty+znVan90Ug4AV81V4v5iAVmAFAl9akWMACgkQ81V4v5iA VmDFeBAAp2iIFl6QnGrugVRIrk6hy/aVxYpoiGw5wFPidwohcQu5ny0G8fkwQS2y ap7Vvp+LZYG/rsZ3D2hoa3XJQ6AeyfhauN2GzYjhPOTtteAFMx0GeZ/fwUJeSV8c Zz54+k2yk1LNwLdZ7mGpSaidbSVKssyeQDWf4Iej1234JN272fG4MVeMqjEXrD/g k7+QsO5+tAMQFHMyK2EkDjuBU3df0uLduKl30Vlr+H7YsMmKxQWU+udodVkty0O/ Je7hGvVbiSP3BKco9GSxoy9M1NKdoGwXjU75LJw9UQhfnU5FLXNqk/7ycb75foEp p+12dPbAvqLiJ+eTDEPZTDDRNKvdMH6ad7wsFpRzIRihsnFl4KOPTWHbgpfLJkU4 ol5AqKstI3tufMFz+CglIQwjLM4v19u+aHU5VdEk5db8aRGhUIeQ3bP/o3xyN/XJ 0YMq91YMoDZK6x0/rEz2GEP34iRmM565Ms1Mhd+Wet93ENDInXqF1dgGD6Q9XEBA UiOKfum5Gq9TtyAzYoSyDze5JiTtRLqxYEO+neil8bHFhNowTUMK3fQ6bQjGVkdZ HhJ+xG+7DYJjTw60va4dyuW/6cszKNa8Xk3spNxC1EBnjUMbTxR3VU8M2k1Nk/J3 K9nvUqEml9aQ5cPqjQLdOxwOUGvHDl6Btr9It0kNwDoggyoABU4= =KrXZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Joerg Jaspert (via nm.debian.org) For details and to comment, visit https://nm.debian.org/process/804/ -- https://nm.debian.org/process/804/
Felix Lechner: Application Manager report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For nm.debian.org, at 2020-04-04: After looking at Felix Lechner 's contributions and after exchanging some emails to get to know them a bit better, I agree with the advocate(s) that Felix Lechner can and should indeed be a Debian Developer, uploading right now. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcty+znVan90Ug4AV81V4v5iAVmAFAl6JAjcACgkQ81V4v5iA VmCheQ/+PAJZfWKxfbvLE55Wx8TakHi+fmsi21ADRXc7N0xTwDIvAFNllhZXz0Lm Klny2PNQke0sIsyE+8tCq9fWQSuyuEe0evvJOtpOYFGnWBc8vu4W8FfE6rBKkxBc hf/sSgzrxBpKo6fRm1MdPijBkpblKshSdTZkEPuLhQ4G9cTpH8kqFeJogUU3eapJ ETbD1kFgE0JTYzHenTdE3wHYZ1J0ZKXKrtjwkNYauG+wxxXiQqDqTBXp/CJBrL+C dMCuGlMB3TlZ/D3yTMhpUwOCM6vrx7W4k1loDTVSopIzoR1Jb6+VhIrwvDN7DHFz nPa0Tgw7XyPOxEBfHqo2Rr/jHqTVq0cQk4u4BtySi/zBaVd5PDJTQO3KyZX+zgxW uCmbqVmkLjCIkdAyL7hXqZs+CfzEas9dYqOhsse5+3MMwqsAEYmdN6eJ2jzgziTO 7tZwVIPN9cqxQoHG7usdU5vq0UnuKaXWI5AS2usxnKCOh5JueGrD7fDdbDwpylhW T1Nx19KYtCMEAPklzG51ee7BxVS3HEXq3J9fdU8v3FNsQAfWIRMmd4UOsDArifcE Il+h6fBb690YYC6qSHekWaBsQqK4WH/ZZNj9JXTal7Op/KO/0z65DcWM8V2RhuN2 YP25y1n4eehOxy7IMJ45A7xJG3r34485L2duW8TqMcZRZ88EdJU= =Xinf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Joerg Jaspert (via nm.debian.org) For details and to comment, visit https://nm.debian.org/process/688 -- https://nm.debian.org/process/688
Kai-Chung Yan: Application Manager report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For nm.debian.org, 2018-10-13: After having exchanged a bunch of mails with Kai-Chung Yan 's and taking a look at his contributions, I agree with the advocate(s) that Kai-Chung Yan can and should indeed be a Debian Developer, uploading right now. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcty+znVan90Ug4AV81V4v5iAVmAFAlvCTJkACgkQ81V4v5iA VmA/ng//VaRAXBUipxtWeNK7MILtq2NyUJr9DB8lzt4qUVVrItwnZP9cxgd+rp7/ xMnhfh8USzNcqBkHBnxpu4IDHWHAxB1Fa1gPODlU17BVe/leaz8W6jn/ghKkNJtP oqTrngTo4ElIzYkjHI/Dchw+dTtDid5WB7Gad8c/m7lPAFffBqsEKjANLp+8dVP0 YD0x+G4GKlmi+0goVIla669xg/kV8lble3955/2ENT0GyR+dVOqAmmXfzyEvE+Xu AJ3uTl0ZE10DEcqeTTGA9tfr++naGhM4exE0XL00kseku4tSDRw9DVkSObs3D3gx kWRPBQYYrXmRHce44A4EzosVE0DX/chF9yEKYonR1Up2r/EAr2EQi3Ztih1UDJtq eySF/z8sRIje7YBzJz/Eyvo3Z9AwBPSOpyI47CyMMWTlw8W8yO7MQTz1EZDWJaCt qjLlYVy+7lJUqiJsaid4a3LlH18hlE5TpScPnJNBRZuQ4D5qY0KKSJ/PRcZagJQu OH4+8k70QlWEQUHmPp9KWS0ANuEUG39tLTCdDO0DMlt0riShqyfd4WZdu7XiYyMk AFl6Q60jCUqHGIJ3mpxMHpw/dEzLko4RoJW1DyWIv1iS2s1FtNv9gCvOWkAreG2p Pc/pv7TaUmmxmFc5xyoi8+PG92/CqQr4L98iRVGWnmUtwfJVCE8= =SMfO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Joerg Jaspert (via nm.debian.org) For details and to comment, visit https://nm.debian.org/process/479 -- https://nm.debian.org/process/479
Re: DM application of Edward Betts
On 14099 March 1977, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > first, I'm not sure the workflow is to make Edward become DM, or if he > can become directly DD again, but well. > (Edward was a DD, moved to -removed because of MIA action) To clarify this, there are two states a former DD can be in: - If they resigned and closed their accounts by notifying the project that they leave *OR* by answering one of our (seldom) WAT pings they go emeritus. - If they didn't do this, they end up in removed. Coming back from emeritus is much simpler than a new DD application. Coming back from removed needs a full DD application, as if you never existed before. -- bye, Joerg
Advocacy for Nattie Mayer-Hutchings
Hello, I advocate Nattie Mayer-Hutchings to become Debian Developer, non-uploading. The current status of Nattie Mayer-Hutchings is Debian Contributor. Advocacy text: Known from a load of DebConfs, perfect match for non-uploading DD status. Joerg Jaspert (via nm.debian.org) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140901213452.3381.32...@nono.debian.org
Re: Advocacy for Jari Aalto
On 13219 March 1977, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr, 2013-05-21, 21:52: I think Jari would be a very valuable asset in Debian, and that he should be made DD. I very much disagree. Noted, but to have any usefulness you want to get a bit more verbose. -- bye, Joerg Homer no function beer well without. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r4gzy1so@gkar.ganneff.de
Re: Legal names
That way there can be exceptions but the project still can trace people if they really need it, going through the persons mentioned above. Encrypting this information to the various persons implies that the project itself can lose access to this information if those people all become unavailable in the future. Is the information also stored somewhere that DSA (the role, not the people currently in it) will be able to recover that information if needed? We will use a way that makes sure that someone from the project (ie. future DAM/DSA members) can read the data later on, yes. Most possibly using the way sgran described. -- bye, Joerg Maulkin I am a scotsman pgphJrsSMP12t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Legal names (was: AM report for Vagrant Cascadian vagr...@freegeek.org)
Hi, while this was raised for a specific applicant, lets make this a general statement. In general we do require every applicant to join the project using their legal name, not any given synonym they might use. This is one reason why we require multiple signatures on every key added to the keyring.[1] But as usual with every rule there *might* be good reasons why this rule should not be applied and someone should be able to join using a synonym. It should, and always will be, a very rarely used exception. It is hard to write down exactly when it could be applied, so I don't. Just - a simple I don't want you to know it, sod off or I prefer this other name, sounds much nicer won't ever work. Currently we think a good way to do this is to have the applicant be known to multiple Debian Developers who speak up for them to the DAM. The applicant, who should be a long-term contributor already, also needs to be willing to reveal his identity to the DAM, DSA and the at-that-time-acting leader, together with the reason why he wants the synonym to be used. Those mails can, of course, be encrypted to the various persons. That way there can be exceptions but the project still can trace people if they really need it, going through the persons mentioned above. [1] Of course this relies on the people signing keys doing this right. But right now we are not discussing that part. :) -- bye, Joerg helix doogie: you have an interesting definition for 'interact with people' that means 'make them want to jump off cliffs' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: DM application for Martin-Éric Racine
to all who think it is still needed to discuss the application and throw bad words and other things towards other people: Please *STOP* it now. There's no need to discuss it at all as DAM objected against Martin becoming a DM. Martin is welcome to join the NM process, nobody will stop him from going trough it to become a DD. Honestly, why would the DAM accept him as DD when he doesn't accept him as DM? There is no ultimate guarantee in that, as for anyone else doing NM. The possibility is higher, as there is much more room to evolve in the process. -- bye, Joerg Hätten die Affen, von denen wir angeblich abstammen, geahnt, dass durch die Evolution eines Tages aus Ihren Reihen Politiker entstehen würden, wären sie auf Ihren Bäumen geblieben und hätten niemals versucht den aufrechten Gang zu erlernen. (J. Sheridan, Babylon5) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
DAM rejection of Kai Hendry
Hi as Kai just asked me to make it public: I did reject his NM application on 21 Jan 2008, 21:17 UTC. Summary: - He is rejected, its a weak rejection. - He can reapply to NM, after at least 6 months have passed - I haven't said anything about DM, so in case he finds advocates and there aren't multiple DDs issuing a veto on his DM application he can get DM status. - There is currently a discussion phase in the NM committee, and as its a weak rejection the committee may decide to override my rejection. Usually that phase ends after about a week, where FD goes and deletes the NM entry for the rejected applicant. Quoting relevant parts from the rejection howto mail: Applicants can put forward arguments against their rejection and they can also ask Debian developers to write references for them and these will be taken into account during the discussion of the NM committee. During the NM committee discussion, a member can only vote to override the DAM's decision if he has arguments for this. Committee members are AMs that are active (ie. haven't retired) and that approved an applicant in the last six months. Weak rejections are for applicants I'm unconvinced should become a developer. The NM committee can override my decision if 1/4 of the committee decides that the applicant should be approved. My rejection mail: --8schnipp-8--- I'm now rejecting Kai Hendry according to the Guidelines at [1], this is a weak rejection. Sorry for the delay in doing this, but writing a rejection isn't an easy task and takes lots of time. Reason: First a bit of history: Kai had multiple AMs during his process. He went, at least, from Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt to Moray Allan and then Moritz Muehlenhoff, who finished the process with him. Marc and Kai had agreed to disagree, up to the level where Marc as the AM did want to reject him. Frontdesk reassigned to Moray and later to Moritz. Now, there are multiple points that made me decide to reject Kai for now. One goes back to 2004, where it escalated all the way up to me as DAM, reaching me in early Februar 2005. The relevant blog entry from Kai is at [2], my reply to his mail is in [3], basically I asked for a new key. When Kai got reassigned from Marc to Moray, Moray went and asked him about his key. Moray: --8schnipp-8--- On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 16:53 +0200, Kai Hendry wrote: I do not have a laptop or a PC, which I think are needed to fulfil your conditions. My machine is in Finland, hosted by Teemu. It's all I have. I usually work through a putty connection from abroad. Sorry, I don't follow this -- how have you been signing your messages? (I can't see how you can have had secure access to your key in Finland.) --8schnapp-8--- The following two mails are from Kai to Moray. Moray had a mail in between, but the relevant part is quoted from Kai, so I left that out. --8schnipp-8--- On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 08:49:52PM +, Moray Allan wrote: My machine is in Finland, hosted by Teemu. It's all I have. I usually work through a putty connection from abroad. Sorry, I don't follow this -- how have you been signing your messages? (I can't see how you can have had secure access to your key in Finland.) Sorry, I did miss this question. I sign my messages via ssh to my box. Is secure access to your key defined somewhere? Or is it as subjective as I think it is? My box is hosted with Teemu, a DD. Yes, he can root it and have access to my key. My previous AM says I must have a PC in that case. Since I am travelling, a laptop. But I argue a laptop is less secure while travelling. USB key stick is just as bad, if not worse. About my access to my box. When I ssh I am careful. I know I shouldn't take it personally, but I was almost insulted when you asked me if I access my box from an infected machine. Of course I try my very best to minimize this possibility (remember it is always a possiblity), by using live CDs. AVG free edition is otherwise used when this is not possible. I hope we won't dwell on this subject too much. I know enough about security to know that paranoia shouldn't stop me working. --8schnapp-8--- --8schnipp-8--- On 2005-08-07T21:57+0100 Moray Allan wrote: You wrote on your blog: This will be the first time I’ve actually owned a laptop. So I’ll regenerate my GPG key and always carry it around with me, so I can become a proper DD. What's the key ID for your new key? Is it signed by a DD? 64399BE2 http://keys.se.linux.org/pks/lookup?op=vindexfingerprint=onsearch=0x8917ABEA64399BE2 It is signed by Daniel Stone. On second thought I hate that idea. I hate GPG. Those key signings are BORING ffs. I wish uploads were done
Re: DM application (yes, once again)
On 11264 March 1977, Andreas Tille wrote: Strictly speaking you are right and I expected this response. On the other hand my advocation does not become invalid once David has a DD signed key, right? Nope. Different issue. -- bye Joerg * libpng2 no libpng3 no why ? because no yes no yes no yes bullshit no yes no yes no yes stop ? no when someday beep beep beep beep (Closes: #157011) -- Christian Marillat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:41:58 +0200 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
On 11205 March 1977, David Moreno Garza wrote: I'm hereby advocating Jose Parrella [1] as a DM while he waits in the NM-queue. While I agree with Jose getting upload rights I veto his inclusion into the DM keyring, for the sole reason that he is already past me and only waits for James to do the last step of adding his key and giving Jose his login details. That same reason is true for all the other nearly 30 persons currently in that queue. DM should step in somewhere between PP1 and PP2 for NMs. -- bye Joerg NM-fun: The Debian project, at least for me, is not a joke, [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advocate DM: Jose Parrella
[Resending signed, dont know why i missed that earlier] On 11205 March 1977, David Moreno Garza wrote: I'm hereby advocating Jose Parrella [1] as a DM while he waits in the NM-queue. While I agree with Jose getting upload rights I veto his inclusion into the DM keyring, for the sole reason that he is already past me and only waits for James to do the last step of adding his key and giving Jose his login details. That same reason is true for all the other nearly 30 persons currently in that queue. DM should step in somewhere between PP1 and PP2 for NMs. -- bye Joerg NM-fun: The Debian project, at least for me, is not a joke, [...] pgponO4drUWNq.pgp Description: PGP signature
AM report for Regis Boudin
Report for new developer applicant Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with keyid 0xB12D595A: ID check passed, key signed by enough developers: Output from keycheck.sh: pub 1024D/B12D595A 2003-01-07 Key fingerprint = BA1C 73EB 8400 716C 5B46 59C1 544D 7BB0 B12D 595A uid Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig! DF81EE83 2005-08-28 Rob Bradford (robster) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2B7D86E0F 2004-08-28 Chris Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!220687895 2004-08-29 Daniel Silverstone (DOB: 1980-04-09) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!212066207 2004-08-29 Ben Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!268FD549F 2004-08-29 Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!343A1E308 2004-07-02 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!388C7C1F7 2004-08-29 Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3DF5CE2B4 2004-08-29 Simon Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!32C0FCD1A 2004-08-30 Daniel Glassey [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3DED45912 2004-08-30 Paul Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!35B430367 2004-08-30 Jonathan McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3EBE31EF5 2004-09-07 Vincent Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3DD9B9910 2005-03-22 Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B12D595A 2004-03-11 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B12D595A 2004-07-06 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!343A1E308 2004-07-02 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig! DF81EE83 2005-08-28 Rob Bradford (robster) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2B7D86E0F 2004-08-28 Chris Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!212066207 2004-08-29 Ben Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!268FD549F 2004-08-29 Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!220687895 2004-12-11 Daniel Silverstone (DOB: 1980-04-09) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!220687895 2005-08-27 Daniel Silverstone (DOB: 1980-04-09) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B7D2F063 2004-02-24 Thibaut Varene (T-Bone) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!388C7C1F7 2004-08-29 Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3DF5CE2B4 2004-08-29 Simon Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!32C0FCD1A 2004-08-30 Daniel Glassey [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3DED45912 2004-08-30 Paul Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!35B430367 2004-08-30 Jonathan McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3EBE31EF5 2004-09-07 Vincent Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3DD9B9910 2005-03-22 Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B12D595A 2003-11-27 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid Regis Boudin (Houba) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig! DD9B9910 2003-08-19 Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig! 2C0FCD1A 2003-09-25 Daniel Glassey [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2B7D86E0F 2003-08-19 Chris Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!212066207 2004-08-29 Ben Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!268FD549F 2004-08-29 Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3DED45912 2003-08-17 Paul Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!388C7C1F7 2003-08-18 Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!320687895 2003-08-18 Daniel Silverstone (DOB: 1980-04-09) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!325BFB848 2003-08-22 Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3EBE31EF5 2003-08-26 Vincent Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B7D2F063 2003-09-05 Thibaut Varene (T-Bone) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!343A1E308 2003-10-03 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3DF5CE2B4 2004-08-29 Simon Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!35B430367 2004-08-30 Jonathan McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B12D595A 2003-01-07 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B12D595A 2003-01-07 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B12D595A 2004-07-06 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig-3B12D595A 2004-07-06 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B12D595A 2003-08-17 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig! 0464E7E5 2003-08-19 Philip Hands (old PGP key) [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid [ revoked] Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2B7D86E0F 2004-08-28 Chris Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!212066207 2004-08-29 Ben Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!268FD549F 2004-08-29 Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3EBE31EF5 2003-08-26 Vincent Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B7D2F063 2003-09-05 Thibaut Varene (T-Bone) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!343A1E308 2003-10-03 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] rev! B12D595A 2005-08-28 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3B12D595A 2003-08-15 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 1024g/8E0D132F 2003-01-07 sig! B12D595A 2003-01-07 Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 bad signature 26 signatures not checked due to missing keys Let's test if its a version 4 or greater key Key is ok Check for key expire stuff Key has no expiration date set, nothing to check. Applicant writes:
Reject of Michelle Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi this is the rejection of Michelle Ribeiro - due to long inactivity. Last mail is years ago and the only package in the archive just got orphaned. Michelle can get back into NM at any time, if wanted. -- bye Joerg vorlon I realize the risk of portability problems is lower than with certain other desktop environments beginning with K that will go unnamed pgpwW58gZVQT5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Rejection: Frederik Dannemare
Hi this is the rejection of Frederik Dannemare. The last mail contact was end of 2005, stating that he is busy with his work. Nothing since then. He can come back into NM whenever he wants. -- bye Joerg [http://www.youam.net/stuff/info...-hosting.de/server-info.php] [...] und der Arbeitsspeicher recht schnell und hoch ist. (Wie hoch? 2cm, 4cm? Am besten an die Decke nageln, was? pgp4Qlji8PASY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Rejection of guillaume pernot
Hi This is the rejection of guillaume pernot. He is on hold for a long time - hold reason was inactivity. I also cant see a package maintained by him in the archive. He can come back into NM whenever he wants too. -- bye Joerg Maulkin I am a scotsman pgpS0eWfa8gYC.pgp Description: PGP signature
AM byebye
Hi so, thats it. The amount of mails you just got marks my way out as an AM, i just cleaned up my whole queue that was left from the time before I got DAM. It was fun doing the AM job, even when I was - well, a bit slow lately. I mostly enjoyed doing the work and helping people get the DD status - and sometimes also rejecting them. I also like that it did help me to learn *lots* about Debian and its processes and technical stuff. Ever seen something you dont understand in Debian? Get AM, add a question to the templates, let your Applicants explain it to you. :) Anyone out there not yet AM: Go, ask FrontDesk if they want you (usually they do :) ). Anyone out there already AM: Thanks for your work! -- bye Joerg D. You've just heard about this great program and would like to package it, what are your next steps? I would start off by sighing deeply and wishing I were already a DD. :-) [...] If I were already a DD, I would perform most of these same steps. I would omit the deep sigh and replace it with a gasp of excitement,[...] pgpkwqVaRV5u3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I request that my rejection message, if any, be published
On 10990 March 1977, Nathanael Nerode wrote: (Its [EMAIL PROTECTED], note the -. Fixed for this mail). I have been told by a third party that I was rejected from the NM process. I have never received any message to that effect. My email has admittedly been unreliable. The mail was sent on Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:24:39 +0100. Your address bounced (quota full), the same address you use right now. That was added to your nm.d.o entry at the same day. The mail was then resent from me to a different address you used in the past, i think some old twcny one. Same was done by one member of Frontdesk: (reason: 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Well, also bounced, dead account it seems. Frontdesk then deleted your entry in the database on 26-02-2007, which is 16 days after the rejection. It appears that I was removed from the NM database recently, so I assume that the information is correct. Yes, you got rejected. I request and demand that copies of any emails sent to me to inform me of my rejection, or the reasons why, be publicly posted to the debian-newmaint mailing list as soon as possible. I have nothing to fear from public statements. Thank you. I bounced it to you once again, hope you get it now. Feel free to make it public. -- bye Joerg vorlon hmm, I should fill in the buildds box for sparc and make it flash red and green pgpWDh8Z7oqb0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Procedure to return to the NM process
On 10856 March 1977, Regis Boudin wrote: Already tried that in June and August last year, January this year and 5 times since June, without a single reply on the subject so far, hence the post to this list. I know a couple of my messages to him have already been lost previously, but I also know he received some others (he replied to a non-related one and obviously received the one about my new e-mail address). I'm reaching a point where it's becoming quite frustrating. And I got some of your pings. For some reason I havent replied and would understand if you request a new AM from Frontdesk. I suck. If you want to continue with me - also fine, mail to you^W^Wall my waiting NMs should go out within next week. -- bye Joerg andreasj Also diese neuen Spam-Mails muten an wie Blog-Posts von Clint Adams andreasj irgendwie ist es eine Geschichte, aber ich versteh sie nicht -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reforming the NM process
On 10622 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote: And the bigger problem is that people who are ready to become DD may be waiting on the AM assignation list while people who are not ready are currently learning with the help of an AM whose job should not be to play the sponsor of the applicant (unless he fully agrees with that). The solution may involve two changes: - ask each AM if she wants to process people who should be ready, or if she accepts to take more time with applicants who are not ready but who can learn with her. Then NMs see Ah, if i say i know everything i can get an AM earlier. Nope, not good. - first require each appliacnt to document their contribution when registering on nm.debian.org. Then the FD checks if it's enough or not. If not, he's immediately put on hold and the applicant can come back a few months later (unless we have an AM who is willing to also play as trainer). Documenting stuff in a wiki-like page may help *a little bit* prior to the AM assignment, but not very much. And about nothing after that, as the AM already asks (if he uses my templates or something based on that) for the contributions, so another wiki page is useless there. The lack of free Application Managers that led to the accumulation of applicants waiting for an AM is mostly based on the fact that many developers don't care about the NM process, so only a few people are actually helping out. And also that you rarely ask for new AM on d-d-a and that the AM HOWTO is difficult to find and outdated. As if that would help, asking on d-d-a. Enough people get asked here and there (IRC, mail), most of them deny helping as AM. Lack of time, lack of interest, etc. 1.1.3 Front Desk That one's easy. Brian has not much time, I'm bored by reading the same answers over and over and over again. Also, the amount of time I'm able to invest fluctuates, as my studies sometimes take up quite a lot of time (usually right before exams...) The internal working of the NM team also lacks some transparency. I understand the need of privacy on some issues, but that privacy doesn't need to be restricted more than to Debian developers. There are many different email whose use is not clear. new-maintainer _AT_ debian.org Frontdesk address. Forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] nm-committee _AT_ nm.debian.org AMs that are active (finished an NM lately). Gets DAM-rejections CCed and could overturn it (except for ultimate rejections), for example. front-desk _AT_ nm.debian.org That gets to the frontdesk members and to a archive mbox. I don't know what happen on nm-committee but for example I believe that general discussion between AM on how to improve the system can happen on [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. (And Christoph Berg told me that such discussion have been going on nm-committee since that's where he discussed the possibility to use MIA scripts for NM) Can you explain (quickly) the purpose of each email ? 1.2.1 Add more people ~ Change that into recruiting more people and then it becomes a solution. People don't come alone ... :-) How to recruit volunteers? In the recent past, people suggested to share applicants between a number of AMs, and/or assign a certain part of the questions to AMs who are experienced in that area. Looking at the current problems with AMs, this will not reduce the load, but add more load, as every one of the respective application managers needs to follow the application process to notice when he's needed. Also, we've experienced in the past that team work on boring tasks lead to a distribution of responsibility, to a degree that no one felt responsible. In conclusion, this may solve the problems applicants have with unresponsive AMs, but increases the load on the whole NM team. On this topic, I would really like that we setup a centralized system which would not be mandatory but we that we strongly encourage to use. No, that wont work and is IMO one of the worst ideas, making it only more work and harder for the AMs to follow their NMs. I strongly discourage to use that. The best solution that I see is re-using a similar infrastructure than the one used by MIA. Christoph Berg was ready to implement it (as I am). No. That works for MIA, but i doubt it works for NM, and Im against that, whatever that may be worth. MIA can work very good this way because you dont need to remember much what was in the previous mails, and dont need too much context (except the usual why and what). You cant do that with NMs, where you have a (sometimes lengthy) discussion[1] with the NM, pointing out several flaws, where you need the context what he did say 3 or 4 mails ago. The MIA-style just works against that, as you, if you want to do it right, would need to read every prior mail of the NM and the other AM then, which greatly increases the load. [1] For those who dont know the amount of mail a usual NM process gets to: I
Re: Suggestion: Time limit for NM process
On 10612 March 1977, Thomas Hood wrote: If I hadn't been fast-tracked I would've minimised my Debian involvement So threatening to withdraw worked for you? No, he didnt do that, because that doesnt work. That only gets a bad record for your name. -- bye Joerg exa look i can't afford to to any more work without becoming a DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AM Report for Stephen Birch
Report for new developer applicant Stephen Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0xAEEFD127: ID Check passed, Key signed from 13 existing DD Output from keycheck.sh 0xAEEFD127 pub 1024D/AEEFD127 2004-03-04 Key fingerprint = 0D4A EB31 A19D 2568 1456 6911 CB8A 9C64 AEEF D127 uid Stephen Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!23FCC2A90 2004-03-15 Amaya Rodrigo Sastre [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2DF81EE83 2004-03-16 Rob Bradford (robster) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!22B46A27C 2004-03-30 Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!22BE16D01 2004-04-21 Moray Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!23501E6C5 2004-12-17 Robert McQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!388C7C1F7 2004-03-14 Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!368FD549F 2004-03-14 Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3A3F9E30E 2004-03-30 Michael C. Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3CD98B20A 2004-10-22 Tim Riker [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3FC81E159 2004-11-27 Tim Cutts [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3EBE31EF5 2004-11-30 Vincent Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!310FA4CD1 2005-06-06 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3AEEFD127 2004-03-04 Stephen Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig! 23F5ADDB 2004-05-29 Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048g/60B4A472 2004-03-04 sig! AEEFD127 2004-03-04 Stephen Birch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- My interest in computers dates back to 1978 when I purchased and constructed a Science of Cambridge (later Sinclair) MK14. http://net.supereva.it/retroware/sinclairstory.htm?p For software, we created an MK14 newsletter. Since email did not exist, participants wrote their assembly programs down and circulated the papers them using snail mail. Our newsletter was quite typical of the nascant free software movement as it existed in the 70s. My bugeoning interest in computers led me to a career programming some truly fascinating machines. RSX-11 on a PDP-11, VMS on a VAX and Unix on a Sun. When Miscrosoft released the long anticipated NT I plonked down nearly $1k of my own money to aquire a copy. I was well aware that Microsft had hired the VMS architect (David Cutler) to design NT, so it was bound to be good. I will never forget the feeling of disappointment as I investigated the product. What happened to the tools I loved so much? Where was NFS, UUCP, grep, awk, sed, the bourne shell etc etc etc etc etc. NT didn't have the software that even a very basic server should process. I was truly shocked by this pathetic attempt at a computer operating system. NT may have had preemptive multi-tasking and virtual memory, but you couldn't DO anything with it. Imagine Linux (the kernel) without GNU. My interest in Linux bagan when a friend gave me a copy of the Yggdrasil distribution. I was utterly amazed that my little 386 was capable of running a real unix clone, including X. I began using Linux for all of my computing tasks and ultimately installed it on all of my machine. NT was permanantly removed in favour of this beautiful free operating system, As time passed and personal machines grew ever more powerful, I remained loyal to Linux and worked my way through a number of distributions (Slackware, Red Hat, SuSE) before discovering Debian. It quickly became clear that Murdock had created an incredible environment for the collaborative construction of a truly free distribution. Debain is where I want to be - it is very, very high quality. Having observed the industry for many years, I am convinced that the Debian development model is such that it will ultimately bacome the number 1 distribution. So why do I want to give up my time to help with the project? I have been participating in the free software movement for many years. A bug fix here, a patch there. I do this for several reasons, some benevelant (to give back), others selfish (scratch an itch and want the changes in upstream). It is my belief and hope that the days of a monopoly controlled operating system are numbered. It is not that I have any objection to closed source software, I just believe that the opearing system and a good collection of tools can be, and should be, completely open. This creates a level playing field for companies wishing to write and sell software. This desire is consistant with the Debian Social Contract and is explicitly mentioned in paragraph 4. By helping with the packaging process I hope to do my bit to help continue to make a 100% free distribution available to the world. Debian is the very best of breed and I want to help keep it that way. --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and Procedures - Stephen has a good understanding of Debians Philosophy and Procedures. He answered all my
Re: Putting Kanru Chen on hold
On 10451 March 1977, Martin Pitt wrote: I did not hear anything from Kanru for one and a half month now, and he did not respond to my ping. I put him on hold for now until he responds. Unfortunately there seems to be a bug in the NM database, I cannot actually update his status at the moment. More details could help to fix it. -- bye Joerg Overfiend joshk: okay. I've manned a Debian booth before. I need to give you a quick training session. Overfiend So, when's sarge going to be released? Overfiend So, when's sarge going to be released? Overfiend So, when's sarge going to be released? Overfiend So, when's sarge going to be released? Overfiend So, when's sarge going to be released? Overfiend So, when's sarge going to be released? Overfiend So, when's sarge going to be released? Overfiend So, when's sarge going to be released? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rejection of David Pashley
Hi This is the Rejection of David Pashley [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Inactivity. This application is running for a long time now (started 2002), and always had some long timeouts in it, which lead to multiple holds. Also his 2 packages are (one) NMUed and both removed from testing for some time now. He can of course reapply later if he wants and has enough time. -- bye Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rejection of Pete Ryland
Hi This is the Rejection of Pete Ryland [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Old and very slow moving application. Basically nothing since January and even before that it was slow. Additionally he has no package in the archive (and as such fails a requirement FD now sets) and all his 3 ITPs got closed, after beeing pinged and inactive for a long time. He can of course reapply later if he wants to. -- bye Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rejection of Michael Zehrer
Hi This is the Rejection of Michael Zehrer [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Long inactivity, last ping sent in February after he was on hold for more than 6 months. I cant find any response, and looking at his packages doesnt show much activity, so rejected for now. He can reapply later if he wants. -- bye Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rejection of Michael K. Edwards
Hi This is the Rejection of Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Long timeout, stopped application for now. I can find some mails to different lists, but nothing really for packaging or even NM stuff despite a reminder, so I stop this now. He can reapply whenever he wants. -- bye Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rejection of Sean Harshbarger
Hi This is the Rejection of Sean Harshbarger [EMAIL PROTECTED]. PP got sent in March 2004, since then only one reply, nothing to my additional questions. Sent some pings, last in May, nothing to work with, so rejected. Can reapply whenever he has enough time to finish the NM. -- bye Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rejection of Skat Mills
Hi This is the Rejection of Skat Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Rejected for long inactivity. Can reapply when he wants and has time. Was reassigned to me after his previous AM rejected him, to check if its only a language problem. At the moment it is a time problem, as I havent gotten a reply to my mail from March. -- bye Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DAM queue progress
On 10285 March 1977, Frans Pop wrote: I very much hope that DAM queue processing will be picked up again. Well, yeah, sorry, im a *bit* behind my schedule, I know that. (Its less than one month, 2 days left for a month to be full. :) ) -- bye Joerg Fubak /msg NickServ IDENTIFY arschloch codebreaker /msg nickserv ghost Fubak arschloch -!- Fubak has quit [Nick collision from services.] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guillaume Pernot on hold
Hi Guillaume Pernot [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on hold now. Sent PP in August, a ping in December. Got no answers - Hold. -- bye Joerg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bits from the DAMs
On 10197 March 1977, Joey Hess wrote: This is to avoid theoretical things against us/the applicants, that they are faked by the advocate, by providing one or more other signatures from different people. If you're worried about an existing DD creating a new identity and advocating it, this seems like a very small barrier to that. Any DD should find it easy to do enough work as their alternate identity to get adovcated by someone else. Yes, but its a little bit more. :) Well, the more important part is the second signature here. I would need to look in my approvals to be sure, but IIRC the only NMs with only one signature matched the description above. Sig from Advocate. And they fixed that. :) [Answering to the mail from Frans Pop together with this one] On 10196 March 1977, Frans Pop wrote: 5. Handling of MiA-Maintainers -- [...] The list of developers to consider in a run is built out of - has no package in the archive and wasn't seen in the last 6 month with a signed mail by echolon, - or we got a notice from the MIA-team that they decided to orphan the packages of the maintainer due to inactivity/unresponsiveness/whatever. How does this take into account active developers who do not have a package to their name but are co-maintainers in a team (and don't do uploads themselves) or work on things like documentation, translation or QA? Similar to what Don already explained: They answer to the ping we sent. Explaining what they are doing. So we can see a trace of action there and not kick them out. Together with the two month timeframe for the answer that should even work if one is on vacation/business trip or so. -- bye Joerg D. You've just heard about this great program and would like to package it, what are your next steps? I would start off by sighing deeply and wishing I were already a DD. :-) [...] If I were already a DD, I would perform most of these same steps. I would omit the deep sigh and replace it with a gasp of excitement,[...] pgpV8AwpkkXm5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Proposed question topics
On 10164 March 1977, Brian Nelson wrote:
1. debhelper
I've found that some applicants don't really understand debhelper
very well. I'd like to add a question that asks what debhelper is,
what purposes it serves, what alternatives are available, and how to
use it properly (debian/compat, build-depends, ${misc:Depends},
basically the stuff covered in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/03/msg2.html).
Isnt that more for the package check? 98% of them are having dh_
packages, so let them prepare a really good one of it.
Next step of course redo the whole stuff without dh.
2. version control
I can't remember where I wanted to go with this one. I guess the
idea was that applicants should have a basic understanding of
cvs/subversion/arch, and maybe should understand the benefits of
maintaining packages with version control.
Naa. Everyone can handle that how he likes it most. Even if one prints
the stuff out and makes changes with a red pencil. I dont think thats a
thing to add to NM.
3. debconf, ucf
I think applicants should have an understanding of when to use
debconf in their packages, how to use it, and when ucf can be used in
conjunction with it.
ucf, hrmm. One can enhance the question we already have that points to
debconf, so it includes more debconf and also ucf related stuff.
4. debconf notes vs. debian/NEWS
Which to use...
See above.
5. testing migration
How packages migrate to testing, how to diagnose and fix migration
problems, and where to ask for help...
Thats in the urgency question together with the Many Debian suites one.
6. pristine tarballs
This one's pretty straight-forward. How to ensure a package's
orig.tar.gz is pristine (aka md5sums match), what to do if upstream
doesn't distribute a tar.gz (tar.bz2, etc.) ...
Ok.
7. library packaging
I'd like to see some more questions about library packaging, since it
can be very tricky and many people, including existing developers,
make mistakes with it. In particular sonames, shlibs,
${shlibs:Depends}, dpkg-shlibdeps, and especially proper use of
dh_makeshlibs.
Not everyone will package libs later. The basic questions I have should
give them the right directions, including a reading of the lib guides we
have, so they remember later where too look. Anything more is IMO too
much, some AMs already strip (most of) the library questions.
That last one reminds me--the question:
Why does a foo-dev package depends on foo?
Why is it fooX-dev and not foo-dev in some cases?
is confusing. Many applicants read that and say, huh? I think the
question is trying to ask why libraries are split into libblahX and
libblah-dev packages, and why it can be useful to have multiple -dev
versions for a library. Joerg, can you please clarify?
Yes, it asks why there are sometimes multiple version of one dev
package.
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bye Joerg
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Re: Alternate nm_assigned.txt template
On 10163 March 1977, Brian Nelson wrote: The overall content is not much different. Mostly, I've just rephrased some stuff to sound like something I would write, and reformatted it a bit to my liking. I took a bit of it and merged it into my templates. Namely the part about the gpg howto, about the strong set and the tell me about yourself paragraph. Also, I removed the If you have packaged an application for Debian already... section since I prefer to just leave that until the TS test. I moved that with the splitting of the templates. -- bye Joerg Aquariophile geht nur in IE Aquariophile unter win Aquariophile autsch ich glaub das war ein eigentor pgpLLT1VYooXF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Possible Split/Change of the NM Templates
On 10155 March 1977, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Ok, I just did it, i splitted the templates. PP now has two parts, TS three (2 Question and one Package part). Ah. Ive also added another mail template, nm_advocate.txt, with a few points one may ask the sponsors and the advocate to get some more information. (Maybe thats something for the initial advocate mail. Martin?) The text itself is from Martin Loschwitz, [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks for that one. -- bye Joerg Die dümmsten Hähne haben die dicksten Eier. pgpdHg6Dc8Rlq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Possible Split/Change of the NM Templates
Hi Ok, I just did it, i splitted the templates. PP now has two parts, TS three (2 Question and one Package part). They are not committed to the nm-templates CVS, as now most of the AMs are using these templates I try to get some input first. :) Lets start with the assigned mail. I only added a paragraph there. Many applicants only have one or two signatures on their key, some of them arent even in the strongest set of gpg keys. Yes, the fulfill the basic requirements we have, having a sig from a DD, but its still not the best to have. The diff is small enough, so I include it right here. It needs a big hammer of a spell/grammar check, but you should get the basics out of it. :) --8schnipp-8--- Index: nm_assigned.txt === RCS file: /cvsroot/nm-templates/templates/nm_assigned.txt,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -c -u -r1.17 nm_assigned.txt --- nm_assigned.txt 14 Mar 2004 17:28:27 - 1.17 +++ nm_assigned.txt 31 Dec 2004 02:39:38 - @@ -40,6 +40,20 @@ know and we can discuss it. Usually I can find someone that lives near you that would agree to meet you and sign your key. +Besides the requirement to have a signature from at least one existing +Debian Developer there is a strong advice to get more signatures on your +key and to make sure you are in the strong set of keys. Of course noone +request you to be at the top position in the world-wide Web of Trust, +but you should try to get at least into the strong set of keys. A site +to check whats up with your key is +http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/ +Enter your keyid in the statistic box and see some stats about it. If it +complains it can't find your key, and you are sure you have used the +right ID it means that you are not in the strong set of keys, which is +not very good. This is not a showstopper for this application, but you +should try to get more signatures by meeting other people, exchanging +signatures, etc. + Please sign all mail to me. It's not that I'm paranoid about security, it's just a good habit to get in to, and it shows me that you know how. --8schnapp-8--- This is a thing every AM should check and talk to the NM if he is not in the strong set / has too few signatures ( 10 to say a number). Now go to PP. I splitted that in two parts. Its an easy split, just cut it at the position where it starts talking about the dev-ref, add some glue-text, voila, you are there. You can see the results in nm_pp1.txt and nm_pp2.txt at http://ganneff.de/nm/ In the nm_pp1.txt I added 4 URLs - I ask the NMs to read these documents, so I should have pointers there. The rest is completly moved to the second file. Also this first PP mail is the only mail that one should insist on having the NM sign it. It doesnt hurt if all mails are signed, shows that the applicant knows how to sign mails with his mailer, but we always required the two question at the bottom there to be signed... nm_pp2.txt is just the missing half of the questions, with a little introduction added. A, and the numbering changed, of course. :) Thats it for PP, now go to TS. Thats splitted in two question sets and one package check. I statically added a paragraph about dak.ganneff.de (you surely remember my mails From few days ago? :) ), every AM that wants to use this simply sends me the KeyID of the NM, he gets an account then. (Sent me your own keyid if you want an account for yourself). Address for that is [EMAIL PROTECTED] That paragraph gives a small introduction to the dak.ganneff.de thing and points to the dak.txt I prepared. At the moment Im not sure if its better to mail that one to the applicants or to just point them to a web location of it. I tend to the last one, as it doesnt need to be included in maillogs, can easier be changed If we move the service to a more official sounding one, etc. pp. Opinions? Or do you all remove that paragraph? :) After that its all added glue for the split. I splitted at a random position, after nearly half the questions. nm_ts2.txt has a starting paragraph added, here I especially want input From anyone speaking english better than I do (ie 95% of the world :) ). The thing i want to say in the sentence starting with All questions are... is just that there is no problem if one needs to ask for hints (as long as its not a really stupid question). I hope my formulation doesnt make people angry or something.. --8schnipp-8--- Nice, we finished with the first half of the TS Question set. Let's go on with the second half, which contains additional stuff I want to know From you. All questions are solveable with a bit of thinking mixed with google, so I simply expect you can answer all of them. But before you die over one of it - come back and talk with me, I can give you some hints. After all, the
Rejection of Pablo Fischer
Hi This is the Rejection of Pablo Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Pablo can re-apply if he wish, after a little period that I suggest to enhance his knowledge. At the moment he doesnt have the level of PP I expect from an applicant to approve him, so it is better if he works for a few (anything above 3 or 4 IMO) month with his sponsor and to restart the process then. -- bye Joerg
Please review and maybe comment on this text
Hi
I would like to get some native speakers to proofread the text I just
wrote for my applicants in the Debian NM process. Be careful, its
english written by me (which is the reason why I sent it to
-l10n-english too :) ).
I want to give my applicants a way to learn how to upload packages into
the Debian Archive, without any risk to break something with their
packages or the Debian archive itself. This is not intended as another
check for the applicant to make their life hard. Its intended to get
them used to the way the archive/the upload tools are working. This will
leave an approved applicant with more knowledge what tools are there and
how he can use them. IMO.
For this I have a full blown archive system running, the same thing our
ftp-master has.
For other AMs: If you want it I can enable your applicants to use this
system too. Im pondering on how to do it in the best way. One thing is
that you sent me the Keyid of the applicant, and I enable this key to
upload stuff (noone sane would use my archive in a sources.list, except
maybe for deb-src entries, so it should not do any harm).
What to do with all the control mails, should I setup a mailinglist for
them, so you other AMs can see what your NMs are doing?
And now, the text I want to sent to my NMs. If there is enough demand
for it that can be added to the assigned mail, but for now I plan to use
it as a seperate file.
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I have changed my ways to check packages from my Applicants a bit.
I now require every applicant to upload his package(s) to my own
personal archive.
This archive is running the same software that the Debian Archive is
using. This way you can now play with the tools and learn, without a
risk to damage something on the official archive.
For now it means a bit more work, but in the end you are
not left without any knowledge how to upload packages after you got
approved.
You need either dupload or dput, whatever you like more. The following
are the config snippets you need to put in your configuration for the
tool you use to upload the package. Of course they are already setup in a
way that you can upload to Debian later without any configuration
change/addition.
For dput use:
[ganneff_app]
fqdn = ganneff.de
method = ftp
incoming = ./
allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
run_dinstall = 0
login = dak
For dupload use:
$cfg{ganneff_app} = {
fqdn = ganneff.de,
incoming = ./,
login = dak,
dinstall_runs = 1,
};
You are asked for a password while uploading, its dak.
Now you can upload with
dput ganneff_app changesfile
or
dupload -t ganneff_app changesfile
.
Hints:
It works exactly as the Debian Archive, with all its checks,
limitations and stuff, but it IS NOT the Debian Archive.
That means:
- Your first upload needs to include the original source, even
if it is not a -1 revision. See man dpkg-buildpackage for the -sa option
for example.
- You can't overwrite or replace any existing file. Your next upload
needs to have a higher version. Yes, even for a simple one-line change.
- Your uploads are taking the same way as in Debian:
The unchecked queue (your upload place) is checked every ~15 minutes.
- If the package is unknown in the archive (your first upload), it goes
into the NEW queue.
- If it is already known it is installed into the pool.
- If it was NEW and it gets accepted it gets installed into the pool.
- You get mails from the archive system, telling you what is going on
with the package. Read them and maybe correct your actions, or ask for
help if you are lost.
You can play with the system and test it with different uploads. You can
even add http://ganneff.de/dak/ to your sources.list if you are insane
enough. Play with it, learn, its ok.
For my package checks I will take the latest version thats in the
archive after we successfully finished the part with your answers to my
PP and TS questions. So you can take the whole time that needs to play with
your uploads and to polish your package.
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bye Joerg
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Rejection of Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsaker
Hi This is the Rejection of Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Long timeout, nothing. He can restart the process whenever he likes. The last mail I can find is from August 2004, from me a ping to him. His last mail to me is from somewhere 2003. -- bye Joerg
Rejection of Gaetan Ryckeboer
Hi This is the Rejection of Gaetan Ryckeboer [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Long time hold. Ping in August - nothing got back to me. Can reapply whenever he wants. -- bye Joerg
Rejection of Bart Trojanowski
Hi This is the Rejection of Bart Trojanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]. At the moment not enough time for NM. Can, and will, restart as soon as he has the time. -- bye Joerg
Rejection of Mauro Luzi
Hi This is the Rejection of Mauro Luzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Hold for some time, got a ping in August. Nothing got back to me. Can reapply whenever he wants. -- bye Joerg
Templates Discussion / CVS List
Hi After some request I just created a alioth mailinglist for the NM-Templates. Use it for discussion of the templates (enhancements, changes, whatever). Ive setup syncmail for the CVS, every commit will be mailed to this list too. I dont think it will bee much traffic. :) http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/nm-templates-discuss -- bye Joerg Sahneschnitter Aquariophile: welches debian/ welche xfree version? Aquariophile woody Aquariophile Xfree version 86 pgppzaOKSDryM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Starting my new maintainer job
On 10034 March 1977, Yooseong Yang wrote: After I have read stuffs relating to NM process as a new AM, I am greek to use script keycheck.sh. I think the script needs the directory $home/debian. After an applicant upload his keyid to key server, I copy his public key into $home/debian as filename nm.gpg, then run the script keycheck.sh? No. It needs DESTDIR, wherever you point that too (Look in the script). And then you invoke it with keycheck.sh KEYID and wait for the output. rsync and gnupg should be installed on your machine of course :) The script will then rsync the Debian Keyrings, fetch the NMs key from a keyserver and list all sigs that are from people which have a key in the Debian Keyring. If you keep DELETE=no in the script it also compares with previous NMs keys. Gnupg also outputs XXX Signatures not checked due to missing keys if there are signatures from other keys. After that you get a Key is ok if its Version 4 or a long warning if its not. BTW: Read the header of the script, its all there. :) -- bye Joerg dloer Joey was bist du eigentlich offiziell im debian projekt genau? pgpWWSHnW7WUm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Starting my new maintainer job
On 10033 March 1977, Enrico Zini wrote: - the download link in the CVS https://alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/templates/?cvsroot=nm-templates doesn't work, with this message: Error: Unexpected output from cvs co: cvs [checkout aborted]: Absolute module reference invalid: `/templates/nm_assigned.txt' Check whether the directory /var/lib/gforge/chroot/cvsroot/nm-templates/CVSROOT exists and the script has write-access to the CVSROOT/history file if it exists. The script needs to place lock files in the directory the file is in as well. Hrm. Simply use anonymous cvs to get the files. Its easier :) - I made some (mostly cosmetic) modifications to the nm_assigned.txt template, before I sent it. Are such things welcome to be committed to the cvs? Is there some review process for them? Sent them to me. a.) You are not in the project on alioth so you cant commit b.) I like patches for them. :) - Is there some mentoring process for AMs, like sending a copy of every exchanged mail to some old-time AM for comments, or should I just go on and then it'll be the DAM at the end pointing me out if I did something wrong? Not defined. FD (tbm) reads every report he gets and will tell you what you can improve the next time. But you can ask other AMs to do read your stuff before you sent the DAM/FD report. I already did that for two other AMs. -- bye Joerg (Irgendwo von heise.de): Jesus war ein typischer Student: - Lebte bis er 30 war bei den Eltern, - Hatte lange Haare - Wenn er mal was tat dann wars ein Wunder pgphE2me2SXTv.pgp Description: PGP signature
AM Report for Volker Christian voc@users.sourceforge.net
Hi Report for new developer applicant Volker Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0x10656584: ID Check passed, Key signed from 1 existing DD, Rene Mayrhofer. Output from keycheck.sh 0x10656584 pub 1024D/10656584 2003-08-16 Volker Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 80AB 4164 7CF5 80D0 42C8 89D1 8B6C D060 1065 6584 sig!3 C3C24BDE 2003-08-27 Rene Mayrhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 10656584 2003-08-16 Volker Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 1024g/B4D218AB 2003-08-16 sig!10656584 2003-08-16 Volker Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 signature not checked due to a missing key Let's test if its a version 4 or greater key Key is ok Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- Thats really a long story! I got my first computer nearly 20 years ago. It was a Sinclair ZX-81 (1 KB-RAM :-). It was fun to play with it and to learn the basic programming techniques. My first contact with a computer language was - of course - BASIC. But soon I also have tried to program this small thing in machine language. Time goes on and my next computer was a Apple II (64 KB-RAM, 1 MHz 6502). The native language (built into the Apples ROM) was again BASIC but I bought two floppy disc drives (160 KB each) which enables me to learn and use Pascal and the assembler language supported by the Apple Macro Assembler! I could tell you - this machine was really cool. After this period i got my first IBM compatible 80286 with MS-DOS 3.3. It was a huge step forward concerning memory and speed but coding wasn't fun anymore. And so i stopped coding until the early 1990s. I have just started my physics studies. Physicists only use UNIX workstations for their work - and so i had my first contact with that kind of operating system. I was totally fascinated about the concept of UNIX and C - I nearly couldn't stop to investigate this system. Soon I heard about a free UNIX for ix86 architectures - Linux. I saw it at a friends computer and I quickly realized, that this is the OS of my choice for my home PC. And coding suddenly was fun again. During my studies i started to support new media artists with my technical knowledge and my knowledge about linux. I realized many exciting projects in this area with the Austrian broadcasting cooperation (ORF (http://www.orf.at) and the Ars Electronica Center (http://www.aec.at) which is one of the world leading new media centers. You can find further informations about this projects on my present homepage http://www.soft.uni-linz.ac.at/About_Us/Staff/Christian/index.php During the years i have tried to replace commercial software as far as possible with open source software from my desktop. I found that in many areas open source software is more reliable than commercial software and that the concepts behind open source software are much more mature than those of commercial software especially MS software. Around a year ago I noticed a project called SynCE (http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce) which has the goal to implement the ActiveSync protocol (http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wceactsy/html/ceoriActiveSync.asp) on linux. Because this project only implements the low-level calls I found that it is necessary to implement some user-level programs. So i started to code a application based on KDE and SynCE which I called SynCE-KDE and which should behave like ActiveSync. The reason that this is a piece of software which - i belief - is helpful for some people and my political conviction to replace MS software a widely as possible and third, that i got so much cool software From the open software community i decided to give something back to the community. Just now i am working with great effort on the SynCE-KDE (http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/kde). But why Debian? I was a Slackware user since my early Linux days. But about a year ago the last Slackware distribution 8.0 was terribly buggy that i decided to look for an other distribution with fits in my needs and is compatible with my political conviction. I have tried RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake and some other - and also Debian. After some time using Debian I found, that i have missed something till now. It really satisfied me with its package and release system. So Debian becomes MY new distribution. If you want to distribute software you also have to think how to do this. As i am a Debian user it was natural for my to try to support also debian packages of SynCE-KDE. That is also one of the main reasons why I want to become a Debian Maintainer - I will be able to support the official debian packages of SynCE-KDE by myself. Nevertheless, I also intent to package other peoples software for Debian. You may publish everything of this short notes! --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and
AM Report for Marc Dequènes Duck@Duckcorp.org
Hi Report for new developer applicant Marc Dequènes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0x90267086: ID Check passed, Key signed from 1 existing DD, Ralf Treinen. Output from keycheck.sh 0x90267086 pub 1024D/90267086 2003-03-14 Marc Dequènes (Duck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 6ADD 5093 AC6D 1072 C912 9000 B1CC D972 9026 7086 sig!3 90267086 2003-11-21 Marc Dequènes (Duck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 E0BA04C1 2003-11-22 Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidThe Duck [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 90267086 2003-07-27 Marc Dequènes (Duck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMarc Dequènes [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 90267086 2003-07-27 Marc Dequènes (Duck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 E0BA04C1 2003-07-31 Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048g/2D253546 2003-03-14 sig!90267086 2003-03-14 Marc Dequènes (Duck) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 signatures not checked due to missing keys Let's test if its a version 4 or greater key Key is ok Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- Description : I'm a french duck who just graduated as a computer science engineer. I'm begining to work in software/network developpement at Nerim (french internet provider). I began learning GNU/linux in my student residence and participated in network management. So i'm using GNU/Linux for about 5.5 years, and Debian for about 2.5 years. I want to volunteer my time because i think participating is the best way to express my point of view about freedom and user/human respect, about the not so important power of money, and it is a manner to thank people whose work i'm taking advange of. I'm doing my best to maintainer some packages for (i think) interresting softwares that were missing in the archive. I've sent some bug reports and sometimes participated in a patch elaboration. Recently i started contributing to Debian GNU/Hurd to help porting softwares. Apart from Debian activities, i'm developping with a friend a GPLed network administration tool called LMS. Work for Debian so far : I'm maintaining 14 source packages : ircd-ptlink, ircservices-ptlink, opm-ptlink, arkrpg, arkhart, worlded, editobj, py2play, pyopenal, soya, slune, genetic, songwrite, gnusound I'm being sponsored by Sebastien Bacher (seb128) which is a very serious person (as you already know as you were once his AM). I've already solved some bugs, one is remaining, waiting for a bugreporter's answer. When the QA page and auto-builders are all back to work, i'll finish checking for FTBFS problems. --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and Procedures - Marc has a good understanding of Debians Philosophy and Procedures. He answered all my Questions about Social Contract, DFSG, BTS etc. in a good way. 3. Tasks and Skills --- Marc is Maintainer of 14 packages, see above, all Packages in Debian sponsored by Sebastien Bacher. The ones I checked were in a good state, with only the usual small things which he fixed quickly. He also answered my other Questions regarding TS without problems. 4. Recommendation - I recommend to accept him as a Debian Developer. Account: duck Forward-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye Joerg Das Ding heißt zwar Laptop, aber das sollte man so wörtlich nicht nehmen. Ein 50-jähriger schwedischer Wissenschaftler zog sich Verbrennungen an den Geschlechtsteilen zu, weil er das Ding bei der Arbeit auf dem Schoß hielt. pgpulXeMHPGFH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Alexander Schmehl on hold
Hi Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on hold now. Hold, currently not enough time for this process. Goes on as soon as possible. -- bye Joerg
Regis Boudin on hold
Hi Regis Boudin [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on hold now. Hrm, cant find any mail from Februar on, so he is on hold for now. -- bye Joerg
Robert Ribnitz on hold
Hi Robert Ribnitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on hold now. Hold for now, up to 6 month. Some time for his package(s). -- bye Joerg
Michael Zehrer on hold
Hi Michael Zehrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on hold now. I cant see anything from him for some time now. So well, Hold until this changes. :) -- bye Joerg
Rejection of Andrew Chadwick
Hi This is the Rejection of Andrew Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]. On hold since more than a year. Nothing in my mail folders for this period. He can reapply at any time in the future if he wants. -- bye Joerg
Report for Anibal Monsalve Salazar A.Monsalve.Salazar@IEEE.org
Report for new developer applicant Anibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0x1880283C: ID Check passed, Key signed from lots of existing DD, more than 60. Part of the output from keycheck.sh 0x1880283C: pub 1024D/1880283C 2002-09-15 Anibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = FFB0 87FF AA67 B0BC B97D 6204 8A90 6779 1880 283C sig!00530C24 2002-11-09 Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 0917A9E4 2003-04-25 James Bromberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 1880283C 2002-09-15 Anibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 1880283C 2002-09-15 Anibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 2CFD1C38 2003-01-27 Jamie Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 36B861C1 2003-01-26 Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 64011A8B 2003-01-24 Jonathan Oxer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 68FD549F 2003-08-18 Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 797EBFAB 2003-02-05 Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 98FAA0AD 2003-04-14 Roger So [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 B28C5995 2003-01-27 Brendan O'Dea [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B4E24219 2003-08-16 Chris Leishman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 BE11F437 2003-01-26 Peter Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 CD5626F0 2003-08-17 Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D02F8773 2003-03-02 Angus Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!D2AB2220 2003-03-17 Jeremy M. Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 DE3E8AA7 2003-08-05 Timshel Knoll-Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 E160649A 2003-01-23 Matt Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 EFA6B9D5 2003-08-20 Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!F2CF01A8 2003-04-02 Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 F5C75256 2003-08-17 Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!FC05DA69 2003-02-01 Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 0A0AC927 2004-06-08 LaMont Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 0F7A8D01 2004-06-12 Norbert Tretkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 1880283C 2002-09-15 Anibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 19A42D19 2004-06-07 dann frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 1BF8DE0F 2004-06-09 Roland Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 1CDB0FE3 2004-06-26 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (daily use key) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 268A084D 2004-06-01 Pablo Lorenzzoni (Spectra) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 29982E5A 2004-06-02 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 2A30D729 2004-07-26 Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 307D56ED 2004-06-10 Noèl Köthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 3E8DCCC0 2004-06-12 Martin Wuertele [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 3F3E6426 2004-06-01 Guido Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 44779E18 2004-05-31 Fabio M. Di Nitto [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 46F3212D 2004-06-08 LaMont Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 49A5F855 2004-06-07 Otavio Salvador [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 515F9B74 2004-06-05 Konstantinos Margaritis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 55815D42 2004-06-09 Daniel Ruoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 5706A4B4 2004-05-31 Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 5B430367 2004-06-08 Jonathan McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 607559E6 2004-06-24 Benjamin Hill (Mako) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 66F24521 2004-06-14 Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 72D03CB1 2004-06-05 Kenshi Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 74E0B766 2004-05-31 Andreas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 75BE8097 2004-05-31 Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 788A3F4C 2004-07-27 Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 817A996A 2004-06-24 Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 864826C3 2004-06-12 GOTO Masanori [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 86946D69 2004-06-01 Jesus Climent [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 882A6C4B 2004-06-09 Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 88C7C1F7 2004-06-14 Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 8BB527AF 2004-06-06 Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 8F068012 2004-05-31 Andrew McMillan (Andrew @ Work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 AE4B5D92 2004-06-07 Scott M. Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B29396EB 2004-06-17 Andrés Roldán [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 C0143D2D 2004-06-05 Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 C0143D2D 2004-06-02 Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 C02440B8 2004-06-01 Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 E0D49E99 2004-06-06 Changwoo Ryu [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!EFAA3331 2004-07-30 Dennis Stampfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidAnibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] uidAnibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] uidAnibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] sub 1024g/F607D9A1 2002-09-15 sig!1880283C 2002-09-15 Anibal Monsalve Salazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 1024D/73CDA455 2002-09-16 sig!
Report for Philipp Kern phil@philkern.de
Report for new developer applicant Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0xB2CFCDD8: ID Check passed, Key signed from 1 existing DD, Sven Luther Output from keycheck.sh 0xB2CFCDD8 pub 1024D/B2CFCDD8 2003-01-08 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 1710 7DB1 9A28 42FF B699 7654 ED1A 3933 B2CF CDD8 sig!3 709141A4 2003-08-21 Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-01-08 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-05 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2004-01-03 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2004-01-03 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidPhilipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 709141A4 2003-08-21 Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-19 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] uid[revoked] Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 709141A4 2003-08-21 Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-04 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-05 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] rev!B2CFCDD8 2003-09-30 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidPhilipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 709141A4 2003-08-21 Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-04 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-05 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidPhilipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-09-30 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidPhilipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 709141A4 2003-08-21 Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-05 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-05 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidPhilipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 709141A4 2003-08-21 Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-04 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-06-05 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidPhilipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 709141A4 2003-08-21 Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 B2CFCDD8 2003-07-12 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048g/56EF2327 2004-06-01 [expires: 2005-06-01] sig!B2CFCDD8 2004-06-01 Philipp Kern [EMAIL PROTECTED] 44 signatures not checked due to missing keys Let's test if its a version 4 or greater key Key is ok Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- Using Linux since 1999 I stumbled quite soon over Debian. I brought myself a box and was quickly addicted of its package management which appeared a lot more experienced than the others around like RPM. I used it on my desktop box and began to dig into the internas of the packages and -- as I had a lot of spare time -- tried to package some for fun. Today I'm skilled with scripting languages like Ruby, PHP, Python sh just as with the more real programming languages like LISP (mainly Scheme), C and a bit of Java. I hope that the Debian project could benefit of the young enthusiasm I would bring in. --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and Procedures - Phil has a good understanding of Debians Philosophy and Procedures. He answered all my Questions about Social Contract, DFSG, BTS etc. in a good way. 3. Tasks and Skills --- Phil is Maintainer of mydns and ytalk, both in the archive. Checked mydns and found only a minor thing. He also answered my other Questions regarding TS without problems. 4. Recommendation - I recommend to accept him as a Debian Developer. Account: kern or philkern, whatever is free at account creation time Forward-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye Joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows ME? Mit 13? Kann der nicht lieber Drogen nehmen wie andere Kinder in dem Alter? pgpgA7E8UErI6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Rejection of Nick Bannon
Hi This is the Rejection of Nick Bannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Nick is on Hold since October 2003 because he hasnt found a package for the TS Step. Before that the last mail we exchanged was 2 and a half month old. I still cant see any package from him in the archive, and a quick search on google for lists.d.o hasnt shown any activity from him. So he is rejected for now. If he wants he can reapply at any time in the future, after he got a package in the archive. -- bye Joerg
Streph Treadway on hold
Hi Streph Treadway [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on hold now. Has not enough time at the moment. -- bye Joerg
AM Report for Thomas Wana
Hi Report for new developer applicant Thomas Wana [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0x8FC03128: ID Check passed, Key signed from 2 existing DD, Martin Würtele and Gerfried Fuchs. Output from keycheck.sh 0x8FC03128 pub 1024D/8FC03128 2001-09-16 Thomas Wana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 01FA 29EF 7F56 66A8 6596 C501 4322 5D69 8FC0 3128 sig!8FC03128 2001-09-16 Thomas Wana [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 3E8DCCC0 2003-06-09 Martin Würtele [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 16BD77C6 2003-06-12 Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidThomas Wana ICQ:9549886 sig!8FC03128 2001-09-16 Thomas Wana [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 16BD77C6 2003-06-12 Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 4096g/52AEFD51 2001-09-16 sig!8FC03128 2001-09-16 Thomas Wana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's test if its a version 4 or greater key Key is ok Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- I'm a 22 years old student of computer sciences at the FH Wr. Neustadt in Austria (that's kind of a bachelor's degree university). Before that I finished a 5 years technical college for computer sciences and business administration (HTL for the ones who know that *g*), so I have been in business for 8 years already :-) [...] Technically I am a programmer, and I am especially interested in security stuff, auditing source code, writing exploits and so on, so I hope I can do something useful for the Debian Security Team. Martin Michlmayr said they need people. I am a member of the security group void.at, we are working on security tools and writing exploits for security holes as we find them or hear of them (and we post them all to bugtraq - really *g*) I also want to take care of further packages as they cross my way. My motivation to spend my time for free software is that it brings the power back to the engineers where it belongs to. We don't act because of financial interests, we act because we love the technology. Big companies like Microsoft have to grow or else they will die, so they grow no matter what, and that's a bad thing. They have the need to control everything, so they (and other companies of course) introduce things like TCPA, software patents and let's-see-what-they- will-come-up-with-in-the-future, which cuts away the freedom to access the technology and use it for whatever you want. They often say free software ruins the software industry because we give away software for free. Well, it really seems that you can't make the big buck with OSes these days :-) but you can certainly earn money by providing support, by writing documentation, by writing customized software for other companies. There is so much to do, but business models will change, that's for sure. I recognize that a healthy economy is crucial for a working community. I honestly think that free software is very very important for our branch. It should remain free. --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and Procedures - Thomas has a good understanding of Debians Philosophy and Procedures. He answered all my Questions about Social Contract, DFSG, BTS etc. in a good way. 3. Tasks and Skills --- Thomas is Maintainer of scponly, Package in Debian. I found some things to fix which he did promptly and good. He also answered my other Questions regarding TS without problems. 4. Recommendation - I recommend to accept him as a Debian Developer. Account: greuff Forward-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye Joerg (Irgendwo von heise.de): Jesus war ein typischer Student: - Lebte bis er 30 war bei den Eltern, - Hatte lange Haare - Wenn er mal was tat dann wars ein Wunder pgpFyLOEtxIMC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Pete Ryland on hold
Hi Pete Ryland [EMAIL PROTECTED] is on hold now. Put on hold now, as i havent got anything since Februar. He can continue as soon as he wish, he just needs to answer the TS mail. :) -- bye Joerg
AM Report for Don Armstrong
Report for new developer applicant Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0x808D0FD0: ID Check passed, Key signed from 4 existing DD. Output from keycheck.sh 0x808D0FD0 pub 1024D/808D0FD0 2001-01-13 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 45AD 1B8A 9474 319A 4F7F 6498 81C0 8922 808D 0FD0 sig!3 X 06AA24A0 2002-11-24 Chris Danis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-01-25 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-01-25 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!7C796B7D 2003-11-24 Richard A. Hecker (NoWhereMan) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 81C2A4AC 2003-11-28 Mats Rynge (Work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 43E25D1E 2003-12-23 Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!808D0FD0 2001-01-13 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidDon Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 X 06AA24A0 2002-11-24 Chris Danis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-01-25 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 81C2A4AC 2003-11-28 Mats Rynge (Work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2002-01-23 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidDon Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 X 06AA24A0 2002-11-24 Chris Danis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-01-25 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 81C2A4AC 2003-11-28 Mats Rynge (Work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2002-01-23 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidDon Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 X 06AA24A0 2002-11-24 Chris Danis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-01-25 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 81C2A4AC 2003-11-28 Mats Rynge (Work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 43E25D1E 2003-12-23 Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!808D0FD0 2001-04-10 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 4096R/BC6854DD 2003-01-09 [expires: 2005-01-08] sig!808D0FD0 2003-01-09 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 3072g/282BF6BC 2001-01-13 [expires: 2005-04-03] sig!808D0FD0 2003-04-04 Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27 signatures not checked due to missing keys Let's test if its a version 4 or greater key Key is ok Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- I am currently a graduate student in the Cell, Molecular and Developmental Biology program at UC Riverside. I primarily work on lipid membranes and membrane microdomains (so called lipid rafts). I also work with gene microarrays, most recently examining the effect of Alzheimer's disease on brain primary cell cultures of individuals who have died with the disease. In my research, I use alot of free software tools, like R, bioperl, etc. and I have written alot of glue in perl to tie everything together. Free Software tools aree almost an imperative, because it often becomes necessary to modify tools and/or check the validity of results from tools, which is something that is fairly impossible with proprietary tools. Because so many of these tools are usefull to my research, it's quite important for me to spend whatever time is necessary to make sure that these tools keep working, and stay free. As far as Debian is concerned, I have been working on maintaing a few packages which are usefull for my research and/or for my hobbies, and supporting the maintainers of packages that I use but don't maintain. My other major work is helping to interpret licenses and answer questions regarding the DFSG on debian-legal. Currently, I am working with the GFDL committee to work on a DFSG free GFDL, and I will shortly be getting involved in the 2.0 Apache License discussions as well. My work (and others work) in this area will hopefully enable Debian to work with the FSF and ASF to get licenses that are DFSG Free so works under these licenses can stay in Debian. I came to the Free Software world and GNU/Linux in general in 1997 as I started college, after spending a considerable amount of time in the Macintosh Shareware/Freeware community. After being able to fix a few of the system administration problems I had by simply modifying code and submitting a patch upstream [at the time I was administering a 2 thousand node network] I was sold on GNU/Linux, and later on in 1998 switched from RedHat to Debian. --8schnapp-8--- I got this from Benj. Mako
Re: Task and Skills messages
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: writing actual manpage for a program that does not already have one, Well, this is one could be a good change for N. Stop asking for a manpage for foo, we already had enough manpages for this thing. :) Yeah, please change the question or drop it. The current question is imho pretty lame. Done, with the usual bad english. :) N. Please take a look at http://qa.debian.org/man-pages.html and choose a package listed there. Then please write a man page for it, submit it to the BTS and tell me the bug number for it please. -- bye Joerg elmo if klecker.d.o died, I swear to god, I'm going to migrate to gentoo.
Re: Task and Skills messages
Duncan Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I somewhat ashamed to say that I don't know if I could answer some of the questions on the template without research. If you have problems with questions fell free to ask me. I'd just like a cheat sheet of the answers. It exists. Divided into many small pieces. Read the mails of your NMs. :) -- bye Joerg wiggy Memory is like gasoline. You use it up when you are running. Of wiggy course you get it all back when you reboot...; Actual explanation wiggy obtained from the Micro$oft help desk.
Re: Task and Skills messages
Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In preparing my TS e-mail for Maz Vozeler, I noticed that some of the items in the template go into much more detail than the questions on my own TS e-mail during my processing. Well. Yes. I had an easy NM too. :) While I understand that a good deal of what is asked and what isn't is currently up to the AM to decide, would it not be better to standardize a bit on what is and isn't asked? Many AMs are using my templates, so this is a bit of a standard. :) Some of them are changing the things a bit, adding/removing questions from it. I somewhat ashamed to say that I don't know if I could answer some of the questions on the template without research. If you have problems with questions fell free to ask me. -- bye Joerg http://www.bash.org/?203815 Fooz In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.
Re: Rejection of Daniel K. Gebhart
Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the Rejection of Daniel K. Gebhart [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Well, this is the real thing i wanted todo. Hrmm. Dont do things if you are tired. That wasnt meant as it can be read - its meant that i made an error before this which IMO sent a mail with a stupid string as a reject reason. Just to make this clear. Brrr, sorry. /me goes to die a bit. -- bye Joerg Sahneschnitter Aquariophile: welches debian/ welche xfree version? Aquariophile woody Aquariophile Xfree version 86 pgp6AsmpwnIDi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Rejection of Daniel K. Gebhart
Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the Rejection of Daniel K. Gebhart [EMAIL PROTECTED]. saddsa Hrm. That wasnt what i wanted. Shit. At least not with such a stupid reason. -- bye Joerg Das Ding heißt zwar Laptop, aber das sollte man so wörtlich nicht nehmen. Ein 50-jähriger schwedischer Wissenschaftler zog sich Verbrennungen an den Geschlechtsteilen zu, weil er das Ding bei der Arbeit auf dem Schoß hielt.
Rejection of Daniel K. Gebhart
Hi This is the Rejection of Daniel K. Gebhart [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Well, this is the real thing i wanted todo. Daniel is rejected because he hasnt found a package to maintain in the last 6 month. He can reapply as soon as he wants and has a package in the archive. -- bye Joerg
Rejection of Ralf Nolden
Hi This is the Rejection of Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I put him on hold at 16.08.2003 as he hadnt enough time for the NM stuff. A bit ago i sent a ping, got nothing back but i heared that he has some things todo and no time for the (near) future, so i reject him for now. He can reapply at anytime if he wants. -- bye Joerg
Re: AM Summary for Alexander Sack
Kevin Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A. The NM template in CVS is for the (private) AM report. There is not a (public) summary template in CVS. If you refer to my report - thats simply because i use this template for both reports and simply remove the attachments and the parts marked with DAM from the public one. I dont see a reason to use different templates for it. Thats all. :) -- bye Joerg Linus: Wenn Darl McBride die Macht hätte, würde er wahrscheinlich die Ehe als Verletzung der Verfassung auslegen, weil sie ganz klar die kommerzielle Natur der menschlichen Interaktion entwertet und damit ein großes Hindernis für die kommerzielle Entwicklung der Prostitution darstellt.
Rejection of Francesco Levorato
Hi I reject Francesco Levorato. He has not enough time for the NM process at the moment and agreed to stop it for now. He can re-apply whenever he wants. -- bye Joerg In dem allseits bekannten Land, wo die Intelligenz von einer staatlichen Central-Agentur verwaltet und anscheinend so stark rationiert wird, dass selbst der Präsident kaum was ab bekommen hat, [..] pgpokJ9fc26NZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Rejection of Tik Kam
Hi This is the rejection of Tik Kam. He is on hold for 6 month now. I pinged him on 04.02.2004 to get an update of his status, got nothing back. He can reapply anytime if he wants (and has enough time :) ). -- bye Joerg Linus: Wenn Darl McBride die Macht hätte, würde er wahrscheinlich die Ehe als Verletzung der Verfassung auslegen, weil sie ganz klar die kommerzielle Natur der menschlichen Interaktion entwertet und damit ein großes Hindernis für die kommerzielle Entwicklung der Prostitution darstellt. pgpzF7wDQs2Jf.pgp Description: PGP signature
AM Report for Jim Meyering
Hi Report for new developer applicant Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0xD333CBA1 ID Check passed, Key signed from 1 existing DD, Roland Mas. Output from keycheck.sh 0xD333CBA1 pub 1024D/D333CBA1 1999-09-26 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = D70D 9D25 AF38 37A5 909A 4683 FDD2 DEAC D333 CBA1 sig!2 144843F5 2003-09-20 Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D333CBA1 2001-04-28 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D333CBA1 2001-04-28 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidJim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 144843F5 2003-09-20 Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D333CBA1 2003-08-30 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidJim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!2 144843F5 2003-09-20 Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D333CBA1 2003-01-31 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidJim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D333CBA1 1999-09-26 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidJim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D333CBA1 1999-09-26 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidJim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D333CBA1 1999-09-26 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 1024g/A3DC3293 1999-09-26 sig!D333CBA1 1999-09-26 Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- I have been maintaining the 90 programs in the GNU fileutils, shellutils and textutils packages (now known as the GNU coreutils) since 1992. I wrote many of those programs, and rewrote and enhanced many others, as well as much of the portability and testing framework. I am also a co-maintainer of the GNU packages: autoconf, automake, gnulib. --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and Procedures - Jim has a good understanding of Debians Philosophy and Procedures. He answered all my Questions about Social Contract, DFSG, BTS etc. in a good way. 3. Tasks and Skills --- He answered all that TS question in a real good way. For the package part: Well, he is coreutils Upstream and the Debian Maintainer of this thing said he has no problems with Jim as a Co-Maintainer. Until now there is just no new upload for this package. 4. Recommendation - I recommend to accept him as a Debian Developer. Account: meyering Forward-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye Joerg Die dümmsten Hähne haben die dicksten Eier. pgpsFKAqj8JkG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Guidelines for preparing AM reports
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've therefore asked Scott James Remnant to write a simple script which takes an mbox and generates something sane: Uah, that script is a python-bastard. :) Well, for all people that need it it is now in the cvs for nm-templates on alioth. RSA keys A note about GPG keys: RSA keys are fine as long as they are version 4 or higher. You can check this the following way: gpg --export -a 2A5B2B0D 2A5B2B0D gpg -vv 2A5B2B0D This produces a long output cointaining stuff like version 4, algo 17, created 974499721, expires 0. version 3 cannot be accepted, version 4 is fine. For that i added a little thing to the keycheck.sh script also available in that cvs. It prints a warning if the version is below 4. Well, its a bit stupid but it works for now and me. (I check if version 4 is in the first 4 lines of gpg -vv output. As that should be the version for the Main Key and not for the sigs.) -- bye Joerg Siliziumdioxid wird auf offenen LKWs durch Deutschland gefahren! Der Sauerstoffgehalt der Atmosphaere ist auf 21% gesunken! pgpPJjRv3jwPv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Michelle Ribeiro on hold
Hi Michelle is on hold for now. No answer since 01.12.2003. -- bye Joerg Aquariophile geht nur in IE Aquariophile unter win Aquariophile autsch ich glaub das war ein eigentor pgpgfoHAcfKFg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Gaetan Ryckeboer on hold
Hi Now its Gaetan. Pinged in November and December. Agreed to sent answers until 11. January 2004. Nothing yet - hold for now. -- bye Joerg If you are using an Macintosh e-mail program that is not from Microsoft, we recommend checking with that particular company. But most likely other e-mail programs like Eudora are not designed to enable virus replication -- http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/2001/virus_alert.asp pgpw5N7QxdLHb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mauro Luzi on hold
Hi For now i put Mauro Luzi on hold until i hear something again from him. PP sent 31.08.2003, Ping at 05.10.2003 (Response same day), another Ping at 06.11.2003, no response. -- bye Joerg Christian bignachos: the famous pornview maintainer? HoserHead Christian: *don't* ask why he's typing so slowly bignachos hey, at least i thoroughly test my packages pgpvVs1D6oWVT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bart Trojanowski on hold
Hi On his own request Bart is on hold now. It wouldnt take much time to complete the NM process but he needs time for private things. -- bye Joerg #debian.de @ OFTC (01:38) michael hui, hier wird sonntags gechattet :) (01:39) maxx ja, aber nur zwischen 1:35 und 1:45, wenn der Sonntag der 1. im Monat ist :) (01:39) Sahneschnitter wasn hier los? activity :) pgpu4E65uUPX7.pgp Description: PGP signature
David Pashley on hold
Hi David is on hold now. Too long without anything from him. -- bye Joerg maxx Aqua mach mal man brain Aquariophile maxx: schon probiert das gibts ned pgpQMfhD1dJbG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Dagfinn Mannsåker on hold
Hi On hold. Too long without something. -- bye Joerg Wrecktum Deine Größe macht mich klein @joerg doll Wrecktum du darfst mein Bestrafer sein (!) Wrecktum was kicked from #german by joerg [ok] pgp8s8x23L8Tl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Streph Treadway on hold
Hi Last mail is more than a month ago, on hold for now. -- bye Joerg A.D. 1492: Christopher Columbus arrives in what he believes to be India, but which RMS informs him is actually GNU/India. pgpAcWtsEWJRr.pgp Description: PGP signature
AM report for Marc Brockschmidt
Hi Report for new developer applicant Marc Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0x68B2B6B1: ID Check passed, Key signed from 1 existing DD, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Output from keycheck.sh 0x68B2B6B1 pub 1024R/68B2B6B1 2002-01-13 Marc Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 2A 59 A3 49 6C 85 8F 19 E8 5F 85 DB E5 09 DF 2F sig!68B2B6B1 2002-02-18 Marc Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 5662C734 2003-07-27 Michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMarc Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!68B2B6B1 2002-01-13 Marc Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 5662C734 2003-07-27 Michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMarc Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!68B2B6B1 2002-02-17 Marc Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 5662C734 2003-07-27 Michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- I'm 17 and live in Bochum, Germany. I go to school and will (hopefully) finish it with my Abitur in ~9 month. I also study computer science at the Fernuniversitaet Hagen (For the non-germans: A university to study without going to lectures. You get some text, have to send more or less normal exercises back and at the end of the semester you have to do an exam in a university nearby. It is considered to be as good as a normal university). After a year of civil service I'll study computer science at a normal university. I'm also interested in history and social sciences. I want to improve Debian, which is adopting and actively maintaining packages, helping with patches wherever i can. I started with Linux only 1 and 1/2 ago, before that i mainly was the windows gaming type of computer user, though i had learned a lot about programming. Both my parents do computer stuff for living, so it is normal for me to talk about soft- and hardware at home. My mother introduced me to SuSe Linux 4 or 5 years ago, but after some playing on the shell i removed it from my disk. Then, ~2 years ago, more and more people told me about debian and its advantages, so i decided to try it out. The first try failed, my motherboard decided to go to hell that day. After 2 or 3 month i installed debian on my main box... Getting the X-Server to work was hard, but using my ISDN hardware was impossible (no drivers :-/). I bought new hardware that week and after that most things worked perfectly. Since that moment i really love debian. I've learned a lot about debian through reading the IRC support channels. I really like the debian community and want to give something back to be part of this work. --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and Procedures - Marc has a good understanding of Debians Philosophy and Procedures. He answered all my Questions about Social Contract, DFSG, BTS etc. in a good way. 3. Tasks and Skills --- Marc is Maintainer of dh-make-perl, some lib*-perl packages, firehol, psh and wmclockmon (see the QA Site for a detailed list) all Packages in Debian. He also answered my other Questions regarding TS without problems. 4. Recommendation - I recommend to accept him as a Debian Developer. Account: he Forward-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye Joerg Sahneschnitter Aquariophile: welches debian/ welche xfree version? Aquariophile woody Aquariophile Xfree version 86 pgpwbTuuFSOeg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: AM report for Daniel Stone
Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 4. Recommendation - I recommend to accept him as a Debian Developer. Account: dstone Forward-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hrm, change Account to daniels - thats what he wanted. Stupid me. -- bye Joerg A.D. 1492: Christopher Columbus arrives in what he believes to be India, but which RMS informs him is actually GNU/India. pgpZVsweq6e7w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Nick Bannon on hold
Hi Now Nick Bannon is on hold until he has a package ready for TS. -- bye Joerg 2.5 million B.C.: OOG the Open Source Caveman develops the axe and releases it under the GPL. The axe quickly gains popularity as a means of crushing moderators heads. pgpoaohDrOQaT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kam Tik on hold
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kam Tik is on hold now. Not enough time and then no response for a long time. Is he still around? Nothing heard since the hold. I just wrote a ping, lets give him some days for an answer (maybe until Monday or Tuesday). -- bye Joerg (13:24) Aquariophile ist iptables eigentlich nur ein tool zum verhindern von aussenkonnecti,erungen auf gewissen ports oder ist iptables eine firewall? (13:27) maxx ist ein packet filter (13:27) Aquariophile maxx: also der verhindert pings? pgpftClPAIvqE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Continued wait for DAM approval (or not)
Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: + last_modified timestamp with timezone default 'now()'); Not time zone (with the space)? At least my postgresql wants the space. -- bye Joerg (Irgendwo von heise.de): Jesus war ein typischer Student: - Lebte bis er 30 war bei den Eltern, - Hatte lange Haare - Wenn er mal was tat dann wars ein Wunder
Re: Deedra Waters on hold
Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Deedra Waters is on hold for now. He has some private things to finish, after that we go on with the process. Ups, that should be She, not He. -- bye Joerg (Irgendwo von heise.de): Jesus war ein typischer Student: - Lebte bis er 30 war bei den Eltern, - Hatte lange Haare - Wenn er mal was tat dann wars ein Wunder pgp5Q7rpTy3IA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Francesco Levorato on hold
Hi He is on hold now. Some important familiar things, so he has not enough time for anything else in the (near) future. -- bye Joerg A.D. 1517: Martin Luther nails his 95 Theses to the church door and is promptly moderated down to (-1, Flamebait). pgpIrCAjOduY6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Daniel K. Gebhart on hold
Hi he is on hold for now until he has some more time for the process. -- bye Joerg A.D. 1492: Christopher Columbus arrives in what he believes to be India, but which RMS informs him is actually GNU/India. pgpEYRmm0LNTy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Robert Ribnitz on hold
Hi Robert Ribnitz is on hold for now. Last Email Traffic was a long time ago. We had some IRC talks a bit ago but i never got the stuff i want from him until now. So he is on old until he has more time to finish the tasks he has todo for this. -- bye Joerg Sahneschnitter Aquariophile: welches debian/ welche xfree version? Aquariophile woody Aquariophile Xfree version 86 pgpYbPVk1QWup.pgp Description: PGP signature
Ralf Nolden on hold
Hi Ralf is on hold now - not enough time, to much todo with his job at the moment. -- bye Joerg Ganneff kde und tastatur? passt doch nicht mit dem nutzerprofil windepp zusammen :) pgpRjL6mkhe9s.pgp Description: PGP signature
AM Summary for Florian Weimer
Hi Report for new developer applicant Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0x02D524BE: ID Check passed, Key signed from 1 existing DD, me. Output from keycheck.sh 0x02D524BE pub 2048R/02D524BE 2002-03-19 Florian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = C8D3 D9CF FA9E 7056 3F32 FA54 BF7B FF04 02D5 24BE sig!3 02D524BE 2002-03-19 Florian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 02D524BE 2002-03-19 Florian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 7E7B8AC9 2002-10-07 Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidFlorian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 02D524BE 2002-03-19 Florian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 02D524BE 2002-03-19 Florian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 7E7B8AC9 2002-10-07 Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidFlorian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 02D524BE 2002-03-19 Florian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 02D524BE 2002-03-19 Florian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 7E7B8AC9 2002-10-07 Joerg Jaspert [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048R/2450A7B1 2002-03-19 sig!02D524BE 2002-03-19 Florian Weimer (HIGH SECURITY KEY) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- Oh. At the moment, I'm studying mathematics at the University of Stuttgart. I'm mainly interested in representation theory, but currently attending other courses to get my diploma. Besides this, I work at the computing center of the university, in the security team (RUS-CERT). I currently focus on the development of new services and fake network security. In addition, I regularly write articles for our security news service (http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/ticker/). I'm an Ada enthusiast, and hope to abolish buffer overflows by (slowly) rewriting critical software in Ada. ;-) I intend to work mostly on Ada-related packages, and on security policies (e.g. Debian's approach towards X.509 browser CAs, or the measures to be taken after the inevitable first big Debian security compromise). And I'm going to package a few Perl modules which we need at work. In quite a few cases, I will be able to help with concrete security issues, I guess. But there's an obstacle: I won't participate in hiding information from users, because I believe this is morally wrong. However, I respect that the Debian Project doesn't share my view at the moment and interprets the Social Contract differently, and I intend to make sure that this will not result in a dilemma, neither for the Debian project, nor the Security Team, nor for me. Debian is an important tool, both at work and for my home network. I don't expect this will change during the next few years, so I better make sure that Debian remains such a useful tool. And it's only fair if I give back some of the time Debian helps me to save on system administration. In addition, it bugs me that we can't recommend Debian officially at RUS-CERT. Relying on Debian introduces many risks. Some of them are inherent to the project, some can be mitigated. By becoming more involved with Debian, I hope to better understand the internal procedures, and contribute improvements and/or document the risks, so that we can recommend Debian one day. --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and Procedures - Florian has a good understanding of Debians Philosophy and Procedures. He answered all my Questions about Social Contract, DFSG, BTS etc. in a good way. 3. Tasks and Skills --- Florian is Maintainer of xml2rfc, ada-reference-manual, all Packages in Debian. He also answered my other Questions regarding TS without problems. 4. Recommendation - I recommend to accept him as a Debian Developer. Account: fw Forward-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye Joerg Christian bignachos: the famous pornview maintainer? HoserHead Christian: *don't* ask why he's typing so slowly bignachos hey, at least i thoroughly test my packages pgpXeFI1vQbMZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Kam Tik on hold
Hi Kam Tik is on hold now. Not enough time and then no response for a long time. -- bye Joerg Die Dicke zum Spiegel: Spieglein, Spieglein an der Wand, wer ist die Schönste im ganzen Land? Der Spiegel: Geh doch mal weg, ich kann ja gar nichts sehen! pgpH5wMwiFcYV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Little Script
Hi Maybe one of you out there likes http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/templates/keycheck.sh?rev=1.3content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markupcvsroot=nm-templates If not just ignore this mail. I use that for the gpg key check. -- bye Joerg 2.5 million B.C.: OOG the Open Source Caveman develops the axe and releases it under the GPL. The axe quickly gains popularity as a means of crushing moderators heads. pgpnHfu2Bq5m6.pgp Description: PGP signature
AM Report for Matthias Urlichs
Hi Report for new developer applicant Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0xD70AAFF9: ID Check passed, Key signed from 1 existing DD, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Output from gpg --with-fingerprint --no-default-keyring \ --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg \ --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.pgp \ --check-sigs $1 pub 1024D/D70AAFF9 1998-11-20 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 2A11 1B38 C4DB 23BF A7C7 E19D F3E8 5400 D70A AFF9 sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2003-03-08 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!D70AAFF9 2002-06-26 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 1998-11-20 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2001-02-18 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2001-02-18 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2001-02-18 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2002-11-15 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2002-11-15 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs (M:U IT-Know-How) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2003-03-08 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs (no longer working there) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2001-02-18 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs (Old email address) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2001-02-18 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidMatthias Urlichs (Old email address) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 258D8781 2003-03-30 Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 D70AAFF9 2001-02-18 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 1504g/CAA29391 1998-11-20 sig!D70AAFF9 1998-11-20 Matthias Urlichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] 54 signatures not checked due to missing keys Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- OK... the first work I did with Unix was in the context of Apple's old A/UX Unix, which was a cobbled-together hybrid of Sys5 and BSD networking. I wrote a driver for an ISDN card for it. It became apparent really fast that debugging such a thing without access to open source code (meaning, it's not enough to be able to look at the code -- I need to make modifications, and recompile) the task becomes impossible. Anyway, after not making the system stable enough for production use I then switched to Linux/i386 and ported the code to the new environment. At the time, Linux 0.99.whatever had no usable internal queueing and no Internet-ready network code, so I took some not-quite-legal Streams code, the NetBSD networking core, the rest of the kernel, and hooked everything together. ;-) That worked (rather well, in fact), but the main lesson I leaned from this is that programming alone is a Bad Thing, and being unable to share your code is even worse in a couple of major ways. These days, I use Debian on i386, ARM and PPC machines; I intend to mainly do QA-related things (i.e. find out why this code doesn't work on PPC, here's the changes to get that code to cross-compile smoothly) work, and help with prodding people and maybe NMUing stuff (like the blocked Perl 5.8 and Python 2.2 moves from Unstable into Testing). On the programming side, my major strengths are debugging, and protocol / systems design. I want to share my time because, pragmatically, if I want the code running on my systems to have some feature or other, and nobody else coded them into the programs I'd like to use, then obviously I'll have to do the work myself ;-) Sharing this work with other people means that (a) they have more time to work on other nifty features, and (b) ideally my new feature and their new
Re: AM Report for Roland Stigge
Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: this is from the first contact template :-) They are Joerg's evil templates... it shouldn't be there imho. Its changed. :) There a few things I don't like in the templates, Everyone can send patches/suggestions. Even you. :) but they are so much better than anything else out there... Thx. (Most of the questions are suggested by many different people. Im not the only author for this templates, only the guy that collected the questions. :) ) -- bye Joerg maxx Aqua mach mal man brain Aquariophile maxx: schon probiert das gibts ned pgpLm1Ge5feqJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
AM Report for Xavier Roche
Hi Report for new developer applicant Xavier Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Identification Background -- Check with Keyid 0x03F35988: ID Check passed, Key signed from 2 existing DD, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Output from gpg --check-sigs 0x03F35988 pub 1024D/03F35988 2001-06-04 Xavier Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = FF7A 33E7 9EF3 EB24 26E8 6868 DCF8 D65B 03F3 5988 sig!03F35988 2001-06-04 Xavier Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 E0BA04C1 2002-10-02 Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!059D867E 2003-04-16 Alexandre Pineau [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 904BE741 2003-04-17 Benjamin Drieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 690B4E07 2003-04-17 William WAISSE (Linux addict and C software Engineer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 44E22ACD 2003-04-22 Mickael Profeta [EMAIL PROTECTED] uidXavier Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!059D867E 2003-04-16 Alexandre Pineau [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!03F35988 2003-04-16 Xavier Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 904BE741 2003-04-17 Benjamin Drieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] sig!3 690B4E07 2003-04-17 William WAISSE (Linux addict and C software Engineer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] sub 2048g/BA95B325 2001-06-04 sig!03F35988 2001-06-04 Xavier Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applicant writes: --8schnipp-8--- The reason I want to become a Debian developper is that I really like this system, its philosophy, and I want to help the building process, especially by packaging one of my softwares (and surely more packages when I will be totally ready). I have been developping for quite some time now (started on Atari ST in 1987), and used my first slackware on a Falcon. I developped many freewares and utilities, and few sharewares on ST. Then I switched to i386 machines, and in parallel I begun to develop on Linux and Unix systems. At this point I started to develop with other folks a spider called httrack in 1998, and few months after, I decided to switch it to GPL. Developping is for me a job but also a hobby, and because I regularly use GPL software and Linux, and because I like the philosophy behind it, I continued to develop few things and promote the GPL movement (for example when my former company, Serianet, stopped its activities in 2000, I and the former boss acquired the intellectual rights of the software (a groupware) to put it on GPL. The groupware is Sherpath, at http://www.sherpath.org/) --8schnapp-8--- 2. Philosophy and Procedures - Xavier has a good understanding of Debians Philosophy and Procedures. He answered all my Questions about Social Contract, DFSG, BTS etc. in a good way. 3. Tasks and Skills --- Xavier is Maintainer of httrack, Package in Debian. He also answered my other Questions regarding TS without problems. 4. Recommendation - I recommend to accept him as a Debian Developer. Account: xavier Forward-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- bye Joerg Das Ding heißt zwar Laptop, aber das sollte man so wörtlich nicht nehmen. Ein 50-jähriger schwedischer Wissenschaftler zog sich Verbrennungen an den Geschlechtsteilen zu, weil er das Ding bei der Arbeit auf dem Schoß hielt. pgpe9ufd3THDm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Reject of Matthew Allum
Hi I now reject Matthew Allum. Not enough time for the Process. Of course he can re-apply at any time if he wants. -- bye Joerg 2.5 million B.C.: OOG the Open Source Caveman develops the axe and releases it under the GPL. The axe quickly gains popularity as a means of crushing moderators heads. pgp76s9RE0LUz.pgp Description: PGP signature
