Re: More templates QA
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:53:22AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: PR5. What are Non-Maintainer Uploads (NMUs) and when would you do an NMU? - Please list the usual procedure for a NMU. + Please list the usual procedure for an NMU. The original is correct here; an generally only preceeds a word that starts with a vowel in this context. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: More templates QA
On Sun Aug 02 13:02, Mark Brown wrote: On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:53:22AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: PR5. What are Non-Maintainer Uploads (NMUs) and when would you do an NMU? - Please list the usual procedure for a NMU. + Please list the usual procedure for an NMU. The original is correct here; an generally only preceeds a word that starts with a vowel in this context. Actually, it's to do with whether a vowel _sound_ is at the start of a word [0]. Thus it would be an X-ray, a hotel, an honourific, a user etc. NMU is pronounced en-em-ewe, so it should be an NMU. (just try saying a NMU out loud, the glottal stop is horrible) Matt 0. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_and_an -- Matthew Johnson signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: More templates QA
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 01:36:53PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote: On Sun Aug 02 13:02, Mark Brown wrote: The original is correct here; an generally only preceeds a word that starts with a vowel in this context. Actually, it's to do with whether a vowel _sound_ is at the start of a word [0]. Thus it would be an X-ray, a hotel, an honourific, a user etc. NMU is pronounced en-em-ewe, so it should be an NMU. (just try saying a NMU out loud, the glottal stop is horrible) Works fine for me since I'm prononcing the 'a' fairly softly (close to uh or eh) when running it into NMU; essentially contracting the 'a' into the acronym. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: More templates QA
On 2009-08-02, Mark Brown broo...@sirena.org.uk wrote: On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:53:22AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: PR5. What are Non-Maintainer Uploads (NMUs) and when would you do an NMU? - Please list the usual procedure for a NMU. + Please list the usual procedure for an NMU. The original is correct here; an generally only preceeds a word that starts with a vowel in this context. Style manuals seem to recommend an for an initialism when the first letter begins with a vowel sound (as it does in en em you). I can see an argument for a NMU if you read it as a non-maintainer upload though. Not that it means much, but googlefight shows an nmu as more popular: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?word1=an+nmuword2=a+nmu; But it's definitely better not to be using *both* an NMU and a NMU in adjacent lines as this question did before Enrico's patch... Cheers, Olly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: More templates QA
Hello, On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 01:33:38PM +, Olly Betts wrote: Style manuals seem to recommend an for an initialism when the first letter begins with a vowel sound (as it does in en em you). I can see an argument for a NMU if you read it as a non-maintainer upload though. Not that it means much, but googlefight shows an nmu as more popular: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?word1=an+nmuword2=a+nmu; But it's definitely better not to be using *both* an NMU and a NMU in adjacent lines as this question did before Enrico's patch... I commited the patch now as is. If we get a decision for a NMU we can still fix SVN. Thanks for your work. Cheers, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: More templates QA
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 01:33:38PM +, Olly Betts wrote: On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:53:22AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: PR5. What are Non-Maintainer Uploads (NMUs) and when would you do an NMU? - Please list the usual procedure for a NMU. + Please list the usual procedure for an NMU. The original is correct here; an generally only preceeds a word that starts with a vowel in this context. Style manuals seem to recommend an for an initialism when the first letter begins with a vowel sound (as it does in en em you). I can see an argument for a NMU if you read it as a non-maintainer upload though. It wasn't actually Olly's fault to choose 'an' in favour of 'a': he just pointed out the previous inconsistency. But when creating a patch, given the choice between the two, I considered that at Debconf everyone said ennemyou instead of new maintainer upload and went for the one that fits with the acronym instead of the extended form. Ciao, Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature