Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] ttf-lang-* virtual packages

2006-03-20 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Yo over there on d-policy!

Explanation: we're discussing how to better organize fonts in Debian.  One 
idea is to use virtual packages to have fonts specify their supported 
charsets and/or languages in a ttf-lang-* and/or ttf-charset-* virtual 
package name space.  Amongst others, the ability of input methods to 
recommend (or depend?) on proper fonts was mentioned as an advantage of 
this.

On Sunday 19 March 2006 09:06, Christian Perrier wrote:
 We request for the creation of virtual packages named
 ttf-lang-langname so that all font packages that are targeted for
 the supprot of a given language can add a Provides on the relevant
 virtual package(s).

 The only drawback here is that virtual packages creation is a process
 that is quite precisely defined in
 http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.tx
t and we would need to request for the creation of *a lot* of virtual
 packages...:-)

Well,  I guess we need input from the policy gods here ;-)

 If these virtual packages are accepted, then our font packages naming
 policy would say:

 Font packages are to be named after the name of the font or font
 family included in the package and should add a Provides field
 listing the ttf-lang-* packages they provide support for.

Again, note for the d-policy folks who have not followed this discussion so 
far: this is a very early basis for discussion - exact rules will need to 
be worked out.  (Personal note: I'm not sure if we should do this in the 
ttf-* namespace.  If X is configured properly, ttf-* and t1-* - and maybe 
even xfont-* - should make no difference.  Yes, I proposed the ttf-* 
thingy, but I warned you it was just an idea out of the blue...)

cheers
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2006-03-20 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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Hi,

One of the translators from debian-l10n-portuguese, started
the translation of Debian Policy to Brazilian Portuguese. Sometime
ago, debian-l10n-portuguese adopted a QA process based on the work
of other translation/localization teams.

Right now, we are reviewing the translation and I'm looking
forward how to integrate it with our webpages. I checked the website
and debian-policy has a CVS repo. Should I sent the sgml file to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any docs that I could read about how
to send translation to that specific part of Debian (debian-policy)?

Thanks in advance, kind regards,

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Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] ttf-lang-* virtual packages

2006-03-20 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Adrian von Bidder [Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:37:15 +0100]:

 Yo over there on d-policy!

 Explanation: we're discussing how to better organize fonts in Debian.  One 
 idea is to use virtual packages to have fonts specify their supported 
 charsets and/or languages in a ttf-lang-* and/or ttf-charset-* virtual 
 package name space.  Amongst others, the ability of input methods to 
 recommend (or depend?) on proper fonts was mentioned as an advantage of 
 this.

 On Sunday 19 March 2006 09:06, Christian Perrier wrote:
  We request for the creation of virtual packages named
  ttf-lang-langname so that all font packages that are targeted for
  the supprot of a given language can add a Provides on the relevant
  virtual package(s).

  The only drawback here is that virtual packages creation is a process
  that is quite precisely defined in
  http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.tx
 t and we would need to request for the creation of *a lot* of virtual
  packages...:-)

 Well,  I guess we need input from the policy gods here ;-)

  Depending on your use case, formally requesting such virtual packages
  may not be needed. From Policy 3.6:

 All packages should use virtual package names where appropriate, and
 arrange to create new ones if necessary.  They should not use virtual
 package names (except privately, amongst a cooperating group of
 packages) unless they have been agreed upon and appear in the list of
 virtual package names.  (See also Section 7.4, `Virtual packages -
 `Provides'')

  So if the set of packages that would need to depend or recommend a
  ttf-lang-foo (or whatever name is finally picked) is reduced and
  somehow related, this can probably be considered cooperation.

  Just for reference, here are some statistics (generated with the
  attached script):

Number of virtual packages defined in Policy: 73
Number virtual packages provided in the archive (i386): 1611
Number of v.p. defined in Policy and provided in the archive: 62
Number of v.p. defined in Policy but not provided in the archive: 11
Number of v.p. NOT defined in Policy but provided in the archive: 1549

  HTH,

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