Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-12-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:41:15AM +, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
 I suggest that the following patch be applied to policy in order to
 resolve this issue:
 
 --- policy.sgml.old   Fri Nov 15 09:30:47 2002
 +++ policy.sgml   Fri Nov 15 09:36:16 2002
 @@ -6982,9 +6982,12 @@
 emulator application were so coded, be a new
 view in a multiple-document interface (MDI).
   /p
 /footnote
 -   and runs the specified varcommand/var.
 +   and runs the specified varcommand/var, 
 +   interpreting the entirity of the rest of the command
 +   line as a command to pass straight to exec, in the 
 +   manner that ttxterm/tt does.
   /p/item
  
 itemp
 Support the command-line option tt-T
 
 

I second this proposal. The menu system depends heavily  on the behaviour of 
x-terminal-emulator.

Thanks for writing this proposal.
I suppose that make it an formal amendment ?

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Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-11-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:30:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:41:15AM +, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
  I suggest that the following patch be applied to policy in order to
  resolve this issue:
  
  --- policy.sgml.old Fri Nov 15 09:30:47 2002
  +++ policy.sgml Fri Nov 15 09:36:16 2002
  @@ -6982,9 +6982,12 @@
emulator application were so coded, be a new
view in a multiple-document interface (MDI).
  /p
/footnote
  - and runs the specified varcommand/var.
  + and runs the specified varcommand/var, 
  + interpreting the entirity of the rest of the command
  + line as a command to pass straight to exec, in the 
  + manner that ttxterm/tt does.
  /p/item
   
itemp
Support the command-line option tt-T
 
 Seconded.

It has been pointed out to me that:

s/entirity/entirety/

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Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-11-15 Thread Jonathan David Amery
I suggest that the following patch be applied to policy in order to
resolve this issue:

--- policy.sgml.old Fri Nov 15 09:30:47 2002
+++ policy.sgml Fri Nov 15 09:36:16 2002
@@ -6982,9 +6982,12 @@
  emulator application were so coded, be a new
  view in a multiple-document interface (MDI).
/p
  /footnote
- and runs the specified varcommand/var.
+ and runs the specified varcommand/var, 
+ interpreting the entirity of the rest of the command
+ line as a command to pass straight to exec, in the 
+ manner that ttxterm/tt does.
/p/item
 
  itemp
  Support the command-line option tt-T



Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-11-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:41:15AM +, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
 I suggest that the following patch be applied to policy in order to
 resolve this issue:
 
 --- policy.sgml.old   Fri Nov 15 09:30:47 2002
 +++ policy.sgml   Fri Nov 15 09:36:16 2002
 @@ -6982,9 +6982,12 @@
 emulator application were so coded, be a new
 view in a multiple-document interface (MDI).
   /p
 /footnote
 -   and runs the specified varcommand/var.
 +   and runs the specified varcommand/var, 
 +   interpreting the entirity of the rest of the command
 +   line as a command to pass straight to exec, in the 
 +   manner that ttxterm/tt does.
   /p/item
  
 itemp
 Support the command-line option tt-T

Seconded.

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Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-10-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:41:28AM +0100, Jonathan Amery wrote:
  It doesn't interpret the command line after the -e option the same
 way that xterm does:
 
  xterm -e less .bash_profile
 
  runs `less .bash_profile' in a new terminal window whereas
 
  gnome-terminal -e less .bash_profile
 
  runs `less' in a new terminal window (and doesn't appear to do
 anything useful with the .bash_profile argument at all).
 
  gnome-terminal -e 'less .bash_profile' works of course, but that
 doesn't work for xterm.

Okay, I get it.  Yes, clarification is required.

I guess we have to mandate that -e be treated as the last
x-terminal-emulator option, eh?

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Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-10-18 Thread Clint Adams
 Okay, I get it.  Yes, clarification is required.
 
 I guess we have to mandate that -e be treated as the last
 x-terminal-emulator option, eh?

That won't help with the quoting.



Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-10-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 01:52:49AM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
  Okay, I get it.  Yes, clarification is required.
  
  I guess we have to mandate that -e be treated as the last
  x-terminal-emulator option, eh?
 
 That won't help with the quoting.

Feel free to read what I wrote as support the -e option as xterm does.
j
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Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-10-17 Thread Jonathan Amery
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 05:49:15PM +0100, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
  The current:

   * Support the command-line option -e command, which creates a new terminal
 window[53] and runs the specified command.

  doesn't distinguish between gnome-terminal's -e option and xterm's -e
 option, which are incompatible.  (gnome-terminal provides a wrapper to
 fix this problem).

What's to distinguish?  Does gnome-terminal's -e option *not* create a
new terminal window and run the specified command?

 It doesn't interpret the command line after the -e option the same
way that xterm does:

 xterm -e less .bash_profile

 runs `less .bash_profile' in a new terminal window whereas

 gnome-terminal -e less .bash_profile

 runs `less' in a new terminal window (and doesn't appear to do
anything useful with the .bash_profile argument at all).

 gnome-terminal -e 'less .bash_profile' works of course, but that
doesn't work for xterm.

The policy is telling you what your -e option must do for you to be able
to call yourself an x-terminal-emulator.

 However, based on the policy description you can't currently use
x-terminal-emulator -e to run anything other than a command that has
no arguments and whos name requires no kind of quoting.

 J.



Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-10-16 Thread Jonathan David Amery
Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.5.6.1
Severity: minor

 The current:

  * Support the command-line option -e command, which creates a new terminal
window[53] and runs the specified command.

 doesn't distinguish between gnome-terminal's -e option and xterm's -e
option, which are incompatible.  (gnome-terminal provides a wrapper to
fix this problem).

-- System Information
Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux xantha 2.4.18 #1 Sat Jul 6 14:34:20 BST 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C

Versions of packages debian-policy depends on:
ii  fileutils 4.1-10 GNU file management utilities




Bug#165063: debian-policy: Section `12.8.3 Packages providing a terminal emulator' fails to sufficently document the -e option

2002-10-16 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 05:49:15PM +0100, Jonathan David Amery wrote:
  The current:
 
   * Support the command-line option -e command, which creates a new terminal
 window[53] and runs the specified command.
 
  doesn't distinguish between gnome-terminal's -e option and xterm's -e
 option, which are incompatible.  (gnome-terminal provides a wrapper to
 fix this problem).

What's to distinguish?  Does gnome-terminal's -e option *not* create a
new terminal window and run the specified command?

The policy is telling you what your -e option must do for you to be able
to call yourself an x-terminal-emulator.

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