Re: watch file in policy

2005-02-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Adam Heath wrote:
 On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Bluefuture wrote:
  3. submit with a wishlist (tag patch) bug to BTS.
 
 These things shouldn't be filed as bugs, when there are so many.  Make a

It is not an one-go mass-bug filling, since he has to review every watch
file anyway.  It won't hit the BTS all at once (unless he's crazy).

 status page, discuss on -devel, and when the number of packages gets smaller,
 then maybe you can file a mass-bug.

He has already done that, you know.  DEHS *is* the status page, one *can*
request it to send the watch file the DEHS wwizard used, etc.  And DEHS has
been the subject of threads in d-devel a few times, already.

And DEHS has been out there for some time, too.  So it is not a it is too
new issue, either.

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  Henrique Holschuh


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Re: watch file in policy

2005-02-14 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 02:21:08AM +0100, Bluefuture wrote:
 Hi Manoj/Debian-policy mailing list,
 I'm the developer of dehs information system [1] that i had also
 integrated with some useful info in the developer qa information
 system[2].
 As you can see from here[3] 6250 not native source packages in debian
 doesn't have a watch file on 8238 total non native package.
 This issue freeze the dehs information system in a quite unusable satus.
 Dehs try also to generate automatic watch file for packages that doesn't
 include one starting from the downlaod url finded in the copyright file
 in the source of packages. 

Hello Bluefuture, 
while I appreciate your effort with DEHS, I think you do not realise
how many package cannot have useful watch files.

I maintain 9 non Debian-native sources packages:
1 have no upstream website anymore.
1 has no upstream tarball. (The source tarball is made by aggregation
of files found on the upstream website).
1 is not versionned upstream.
4 do not come with usable upstream tarball for Debian, so I need to
repackage them.

At the end, only 2 packages have a watch file, and only one is really
usefull for me since I am upstream for the other and I well know when
releases happen.

On the other hand, most of my package that lacks a watch file implement
the get-orig-source debian/rules target mentionned by policy.

My personnal ratio is thus of 2/9=0.22, which is worse than the 
total of 0.24 for the whole archive, but cannot be improved.

So it seems DEHS is either streching the importance of watch files
or using them for a different purpose than the one they were made for.

Cheers,
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