Re: Problem with latest PowerBook alu post Feb 2005 and wakeup.

[Benjamin Herrenschmidt]

On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 22:59 +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I got a new PowerBook at work, and after upgrading to 2.6.12-rc4 I am
> experiencing some regression problems (I was using 2.6.12-rc3 + sleep 
> patches).
> 
> The system goes to sleep fine, and usually recovers from the hibernation state
> fine, but sometimes I get corruption problems: the screen is mangled in a way
> that looks like there are some sync problems with the screen. I can read most
> of the characters, but they look like interlaced.

This is a known issue. Another workaround is to bring backlight all the
way down to 0 and back up a few times until the screen "catches up". The
problem has something to do with the LCD panel powerup sequence.
Unfortunately, I don't have any real informations about what should be
done in that area, and every time I tweak that code to fix some
machines, I break others. Apparently all panel types need a different
seuqnce for beeing properly powered up but I don't have those
informations.

If you want to play around, maybe tweak with the code in
radeonfb_unblank that deals with LVDS_GEN_CNTL bits and see if you can
get it to work more reliably by adding delays here or there...

Ben.



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Kernel for IBM RS/6000 43P model 7248-133 (was: Seeking for Kernel and Xserver for IBM PReP 7248 Systems)

[Helmut Franke]

It seems the right name of the computer system
possibly is:

IBM RS/6000 43P model 7248-133

cpuinfo says

processor: 0
cpu: 604
clock: 114 MHz
revision: 3.4
bogomips: 239.70
[...]
machine: PReP IBM Carolina (6050/6070/7248)
Upgrade CPU
L2: not present
[...]

Since the clock is 114 MHz in cpuinfo, maybe it is
another system than 7248-133, if the number -133
stands for systems clock frequenzy.

Hopefully there is a newer kernel available for it
that can display using the local IBM_E15 grafics
card.

Is anyone out here who has knowledge on these
systems?


Alles Gute
Helmut H. Franke

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Re: Bug#303551: Help with inkscape bug #303551

[Guido Guenther]

On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 02:24:40PM +0200, Wolfram Quester wrote:
> Hi Lee, hi Michel,
> 
> On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 10:32:06AM +0100, Lee Braiden wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 May 2005 04:30, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 21:16 +0200, Wolfram Quester wrote:
> > > > In bug #303551 it was reported that inkscape segfaults on startup.
> > > > strace output and a core file are attached to the bugreport. ltrace
> > > > outputs nothing and never finishes. gdb however gives
> > > > or has an idea how to debug this?
> > >
> > > I recently encountered similarly mysterious crashes in some
> > > applications. None of my debugging attempts seemed to make much sense,
> > > so I ended up going through all the dependencies and reinstalling them
> > > one at a time. Lo and behold, the crashes vanished after reinstalling
> > > one of the library packages. So apparently the library had somehow got
> > > corrupted on the filesystem.
> > >
> > > No idea if this is a similar issue, but it's definitely something worth
> > > trying I think.
> > 
> > Yes, it seems to have been similar.  Made a little script that reinstalled 
> > each dependency, then tried to launch inkscape.  After a while of running 
> > in 
> > the background, inkscape popped up, and the output was:
> > 
> > Setting up libgtkmm-2.4-1 (2.4.11-1) ...
> > libgtkmm-2.4-1 fixed it
> > 
> > :)
> > 
> > I'm still not sure what the problem was, but I guess it's been fixed now, 
> > whatever it was :)
> 
> It's nice to know it works for you now. I'll close the bug then and I
> hope you have fun with inkscape ;-)
Since several people are seeing this there seems to be still a bug
somewhere, maybe in unprelinking? Now that we now the library that had
the problem, it would be nice to see what a prelink/unprelink cycle of that
library shows.
Cheers,
 -- Guido


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Re: instruction cache throttling

[Joerg Sommer]

Joerg Sommer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean the powersave governor should controll this register too?
>>> 
>>> > I'm interested to discuss this more. I have been wanting this feature for 
>>> > a
>>> > while; and even have written some code for it a couple of times, but I 
>>> > tend to
>>> > get distracted too easily when it comes to hobby code.
>>> 
>>> Is your code anywher available?
>>
>> I would suggest you first write some kind of hack to control it via
>> sysfs or /proc and do some measurements to see if there is any real
>> benefit in throttling...
>
> Here is the hack http://www.minet.uni-jena.de/~joergs/ictc/. I don't know
> if its correct, but it doesn't make the kernel oops.

I used this module today and I don't see any difference to the life
without. I use 254 because 255 cause very high cpu load.

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Problem with latest PowerBook alu post Feb 2005 and wakeup.

[Jesus Climent]

Hi

I got a new PowerBook at work, and after upgrading to 2.6.12-rc4 I am
experiencing some regression problems (I was using 2.6.12-rc3 + sleep patches).

The system goes to sleep fine, and usually recovers from the hibernation state
fine, but sometimes I get corruption problems: the screen is mangled in a way
that looks like there are some sync problems with the screen. I can read most
of the characters, but they look like interlaced.

The problem is solved by putting the beast to sleep and opening the lid again.

If needed, I can take a screen shot with my digi camera...

Information about the machine follows:

PowerBook Alu post Feb 2005

Linux lambert 2.6.12-rc4 #1 Mon May 9 10:11:19 EEST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux

processor   : 0
cpu : 7447A, altivec supported
clock   : 833MHz
revision: 0.2 (pvr 8003 0102)
bogomips: 829.44
machine : PowerBook5,6
motherboard : PowerBook5,6 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh 
detected as : 287 (PowerBook G4 15")
pmac flags  : 001b
L2 cache: 512K unified
memory  : 1024MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld

Thanks for any hints.

PS: Also, I cannot use the "fn" key, thus I am with no HOME/END/... keys. The
keyboard illumination does not work either. Anyone?

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alsa and jack latency

[Paul Brossier]

Hi all,

Trying to reduce the latency of jack on my ibook G4, i realised i can go
down to 8.7ms using the oss mode, which is really good. But alsa won't
accept running with less than 22ms and click on most X request:

$ jackd -R -doss -r44100 -p128 -n3 -w16
works perfectly, 128*3/44100=8.7ms latency, hardly any xrun on heavy load

$ jackd -R -doss -r44100 -p256 -n2 -w16
works fine, 11.6ms latency

$ jackd -R -dalsa -r44100 -p128 -n3 -S
runs but no clients can connect

$ jackd -R -dalsa -r44100 -p256 -n2 -S
fails saying ...
ALSA: cannot set number of periods to 2 for capture
ALSA: cannot configure capture channel

$ jackd -R -dalsa -r44100 -p256 -n4 -S
would run with 23.2ms latency, but xruns on most X queries

It looks to me that this is related to the pmac driver. I have similar
problems with snd-usb-audio and an edirol usb, which will only let jack
run in oss mode. 

I wonder what prevents the pmac module to do so while the oss emulation
layer does it very well. I am running 2.6.12-rc4, but had this problem
with earlier 2.6 kernels. Any thoughts?

Many thanks, Paul


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Re: Seriuos stability problem using KDE apps

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 06:56:57PM +0200, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
> Hi there list,
> 
> I've had this problem for some time now, but I think I have figured out
> why this happens.
> 
> I have an iBook G4 on Sid, 2.6.9 custom kernel (but that is not important,
> it happens with any kernel) and I am a Gnome user. 

"Any kernel": any 2.6.9, or any kernel version (2.6.8, 2.6.10 etc.)

Because it's known that some kernel versions had problems with k3b
(perhaps better: k3b had probs with some kernels ... :)

Searching for 2.6.8 and 2.6.9 on this page might help:

http://k3b.plainblack.com/news2

IIRC I had serious problems sometimes with Gnome until about 6 months
or so, but this was on, IIRC, 2.4.25, or something like that. I solved
this by moving away from Gnome to Fvwm, and the latter works 99% of
the time like a charm.

I'm not sure whether my problems were k3b related: All I remember is:
After some problems on Gnome my Desktop was empty after logging in
again to Gnome. I fixed the situation by deleting, IIRC, some .gconf.d
(.gconf?) files in my $HOME dir, and after a reboot I think I was able
to see again a full Desktop (with a taskbar etc.)  in Gnome. But I had
to reconfigure everything on the latter. IIRC.

HTH

Best Regards
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Re: 2.6.12-rc4 lots faster than any kernel before?

[Paul Brossier]

On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 01:45:39AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> Am I the only who got impressed?

No, I am also running a 2.6.12-rc4 and I found it very stable, with much
improvements over the 2.6.9+patch7. Software suspend and usb are no more
a problem, at worst all it takes is a hotplug restart for some devices
to wake up. And with a .config derived from the derived stock kernels,
the transition was really smooth.

> Whatever:
> Thanks a lot to the kernel developpers (You know who you are ... :)

indeed, props to them :)

ciao, piem


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Re: Seriuos stability problem using KDE apps

[Arne Caspari]

Jack Malmostoso wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2005 19:40:15 +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:

Sounds like you have bad memory,
That is possible - if you have an extra DIMM, try removing it.

That's something I thought, but for now I have decided to do the "easy
solution": removed all of KDE and see if it happens again.
Fact is that the OSX hardware scanner doesn't find anything wrong, and OSX
itself (please don't tell me KDE is more hungry than OSX) doesn't show any
problems at all.
Just like the others I would bet on a hardware issue ( sig11 from gcc is 
a good indicator for that ). Have you built therm_adt746x module for 
your custom kernel and configured it correctly? Maybe your machine is 
just getting too hot.

 /Arne
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PLAIN/LOGIN auth over SSL woes

[Paul J. Lucas]

What I currently have working:
Require CRAM-MD5 or DIGEST-MD5 authentication with or
without SSL.
What I want working:
Require CRAM-MD5 or DIGEST-MD5 authentication without SSL.
Additionally allow either LOGIN or PLAIN authentication
with SSL (but specifically forbid LOGIN or PLAIN without
SSL).
I've tried various combinations of config options but never
gotten what I want to work working.  Below are relevant excerpts
from my Debian sarge config files:
/etc/mail/sendmail.mc
-
define(`confTLS_SRV_OPTIONS', `V')
define(`confAUTH_REALM', `pauljlucas.org')
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5')
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5')
ifelse(eval(sm_version_math >= 527360), `1', `dnl
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',dnl
`EXTERNAL 'defn(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS'))dnl
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL')
)
define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS',`A p y')
/etc/mail/sasl/Sendmail.conf
--
auto_transition: true
pwcheck_method: auxprop
auxprop_plugin: sasldb
allowanonymouslogin: 0
allowplaintext: 0
mech_list: EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
/etc/default/saslauthd
--
MECHANISMS="pam"
For what I have working, I apparently do NOT need to run
saslauthd since everything works just fine without it.
Questions:
1. If I want to allow either LOGIN or PLAIN, must I run
   saslauthd?  If so, is the "pam" mechanism in
   /etc/default/saslauthd correct?  If not, what should it be?
   I'd actually prefer not to be running another daemon if I can
   get away with it.
2. Do I need to add "LOGIN PLAIN" *everywhere* "CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5"
   are currently mentioned?
3. Is Sendmail.conf correct?  If not, what needs to change?
Thanks.
- Paul
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Re: Seriuos stability problem using KDE apps

[Jack Malmostoso]

On Sat, 14 May 2005 19:40:15 +0200, Colin Leroy wrote:

>> Sounds like you have bad memory,
> 
> That is possible - if you have an extra DIMM, try removing it.

That's something I thought, but for now I have decided to do the "easy
solution": removed all of KDE and see if it happens again.

Fact is that the OSX hardware scanner doesn't find anything wrong, and OSX
itself (please don't tell me KDE is more hungry than OSX) doesn't show any
problems at all.

Thanks :)

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performa 6360 floppy boot issues

[Jason Pirok]

Hi, I'm new on the list and have an issue I hope someone can help me with.  

I have a performa 6360 with the 160mhx 603e proc, openfirmware version
2.0.  When I attempt to boot off of either the rescue.img or the
floppy-boot-hfs.img i get either "boot FD: can't LOAD from this
device" or "boot  can't OPEN: fd:0" respectively.

 I have downloaded and, using ntrawrite in XP, created the 5 disk
floppy set for my machine.  My enviroment is set to real-base F0,
load-base 60, boot-device fd:0, boot-file linux.bin

I've tried using the old ofwboot.xfs from my previous install to as
the boot file for my floppy with no success.  I should also mention I
have wiped out all traces of macos 7 from this machine as well and it
has been running that beautifully for a couple years.  I know that if
I can get one of these floppies recognized I'll be on my way could
someone lend some advice as to what I'm missing,  I've been al over
the bsd install notes and the debian install notes and haven't found
anything helpful yet.

Thanks for the assistance,

Jason

Re: Seriuos stability problem using KDE apps

[Lee Braiden]

On Saturday 14 May 2005 18:36, Colin Leroy wrote:
> That's the sort of stuff one can't mess with on an iBook... But faulty
> hardware still is possible.

Ahh, of course :)  I guess I thought this was in debian-user :)

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Re: Seriuos stability problem using KDE apps

[Colin Leroy]

On 14 May 2005 at 18h05, Lee Braiden wrote:

Hi, 

> Sounds like you have bad memory,

That is possible - if you have an extra DIMM, try removing it.

> or you've misconfigured your hardware (RAM timings, overclocked CPU,
> etc.)

That's the sort of stuff one can't mess with on an iBook... But faulty
hardware still is possible.

The other solution is this simple troll: KDE apps are too buggy, avoid
using them. 

Just kidding ;-)

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Re: Seriuos stability problem using KDE apps

[Lee Braiden]

On Saturday 14 May 2005 17:56, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
> I have an iBook G4 on Sid, 2.6.9 custom kernel (but that is not important,
> it happens with any kernel) and I am a Gnome user. I used to experience
> some "sudden" problems in audio, stability of some apps (especially the
> less "stable", as gdesklets or gnome-applets) and even some bad bad errors
> while compiling (gcc segfaults, assembler errors, gcc errors). In a word,
> system becomes unusable and only cure is a reboot.
>
> Now I think that this happens when I use a KDE application (namely, K3B,
> as it is the only one I use): I start it and it works quite badly (I/O
> errors, badly written CDs and so on), and after this the sound starts
> going bananas, the aforementioned errors start appearing until I am forced
> to reboot.

Sounds like you have bad memory, or you've misconfigured your hardware (RAM 
timings, overclocked CPU, etc.)  Read the Sig-11 FAQ for more details 
possible causes, and some info on how to eliminate possibilities.

On KDE, I'd guess you're either imagining the correlation, or you're seeing it 
because loading KDE uses more memory/processing power than just whatever 
non-KDE stuff you use alone.  Push a flakey system harder, and you're more 
likely to see how flakey it is ;)

Good luck.  I've had a few really nasty issues that took me forever to figure 
out.  Not fun :/

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Re: Bootable Cd's

[Roger Leigh]

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> How I can burn bootable Cd's in OS X?
> I can't install linux because the cd don't boot
> I tried with disk utility and hdiutil, but...

I burned a Debian ISO image using Disk Utility, and it worked just
fine.  You have to burn the .iso as an image, not a file
(Images->Open, then Burn).

Did you reboot hold down the 'C' key when you rebooted?


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Seriuos stability problem using KDE apps

[Jack Malmostoso]

Hi there list,

I've had this problem for some time now, but I think I have figured out
why this happens.

I have an iBook G4 on Sid, 2.6.9 custom kernel (but that is not important,
it happens with any kernel) and I am a Gnome user. I used to experience
some "sudden" problems in audio, stability of some apps (especially the
less "stable", as gdesklets or gnome-applets) and even some bad bad errors
while compiling (gcc segfaults, assembler errors, gcc errors). In a word,
system becomes unusable and only cure is a reboot.

Now I think that this happens when I use a KDE application (namely, K3B,
as it is the only one I use): I start it and it works quite badly (I/O
errors, badly written CDs and so on), and after this the sound starts
going bananas, the aforementioned errors start appearing until I am forced
to reboot.

Has anyone else ever experienced such problems? Thanks for any advice.

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Bootable Cd's

[João Gabriel Sapucahy Chiste]

How I can burn bootable Cd's in OS X?
I can't install linux because the cd don't boot
I tried with disk utility and hdiutil, but...
Please, someone help, me!!
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Re: Question on Sonnet's Tempo Trio Card

[Nathanael Hasbrouck]

On Saturday 14 May 2005 0814, somebody named vinai inscribed this message:
> Take a look at this page:
>
> http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/OSX/sonnet_ide_cards_and_10_2.html
>
> According to the information there, the Trio has a Promise chipset, and
> I believe the linux kernel does indeed have support for this family of
> silicon.

From what all I've heard, I believe the Sonnet cards are pretty well 
unsupported.  I *can*, however, recommend Promise ide cards - I have a TX2 
(ATA-100) in my 7600 that works like a charm.  One of them will probably 
set you back less than $30 - check eBay.  

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Re: Question on Sonnet's Tempo Trio Card

[vinai]

> Since I have recently received a G3 upgrade card for an old PowerMac
> 9500 that my uncle once lent me and since now I have 192MB of memory,
> the system is a bit more usable than it was ealier.
>
> Since the disk is now a bottleneck, I was thinking of upgrading the
> system with a Sonnet's Tempo Trio card, that has information available
> at .

Rogerio,

Take a look at this page:

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/OSX/sonnet_ide_cards_and_10_2.html

According to the information there, the Trio has a Promise chipset, and
I believe the linux kernel does indeed have support for this family of
silicon.

Just as an aside bit of info - I tried a dual-function PCI card (USB and
firewire) in my 8500, which I could never get to work.  I don't know if
it was my 8500, the card, or the kernel (this was with a 2.4.2? kernel),
but I always had problems with the firewire functions on that card. And
the problems were not confined to a single card.  I asked my vendor if
I could try another brand of multi-function card, and there was the same
effect.  I will also admit that all my slots on this machine are filled
- max RAM, SATA card (which works really well) and an ATI card, and even
moving things around (swapping card between slots) did not help either.

Hope this info helps.

cheers
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Question on Sonnet's Tempo Trio Card

[Rogério Brito]

Hi there, people.

Since I have recently received a G3 upgrade card for an old PowerMac 9500
that my uncle once lent me and since now I have 192MB of memory, the system
is a bit more usable than it was ealier.

Since the disk is now a bottleneck, I was thinking of upgrading the system
with a Sonnet's Tempo Trio card, that has information available at
.

Unfortunately, the page listed above only says that it is compatible with
MacOS 9 and MacOS X, but I would like to know if other fellow members of
this list know if this card is supported under Linux, particularly its IDE
interface (if I understand correctly, both the Firewire and the USB 2.0
interfaces should present no problem with Linux).

I would love to give a new life to this box but if it isn't supported under
Linux, then it seems that I will have to live with this computer the way it
is currently.


Thank you very much for sharing any experiences, Rogério.

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