Re: MOL Status
On Monday 13 March 2006 15:58, Jack Malmostoso wrote: Hello there list, I just wanted to report that mol-0.9.71pre8 works beautifully and loads Tiger just fine. You can download the sources here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~josejx/mol-0.9.71_pre8.tar.bz2 I used then the mol-modules-source in Debian and mol-drivers-osx present in Sid. Quick question though: no ethernet ports are present (OSX complains that no cables are plugged in). Is there any solution? Thanks for your help! So, does MOL work on a G5 yet? If not, are there any plans to make it work? Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCAC --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Powernowd on iBook
Hello there list, after two years of compiling my own kernels (when I installed Debian on my iBook it was necessary...) I have decided to switch to Debian kernels (2.6.16-12). Everything went fine, but I have one problem: powernowd does not work anymore. It complains on boot that kernel modules are missing. Can anybody tell me which kernel modules are to be loaded for an iBook G4? Thanks for your help! -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Powernowd on iBook
On 5/15/06, Jack Malmostoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there list, after two years of compiling my own kernels (when I installed Debian on my iBook it was necessary...) I have decided to switch to Debian kernels (2.6.16-12). Everything went fine, but I have one problem: powernowd does not work anymore. It complains on boot that kernel modules are missing. Can anybody tell me which kernel modules are to be loaded for an iBook G4? cpufreq_userspace See /usr/share/doc/powernowd/README.Debian Thanks for your help! -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: video card - old world mac question
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 06:26:31PM -0500, Daniel Boyd wrote: I was reading through the installation instructions for PowerPC Debian and I saw that it basically said that it would work with any video card that XFree86 has support for. Is that also true for an old PCI Power Mac like my Performa 6400? Don't I need an Open Firmware-enabled card? Correct, but you will only see anything from it after linux has started to boot. I once used a matrox millenium in a Performa 6400, worked fine. What is the best video card anybody here has been able to get working in a machine that old? Will a Radeon 9200 Mac Edition work? Sven Luther writes that that card should work under linux without problem here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/10/msg00383.html so I guess it should. -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:58:06PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: On 5/3/06, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, the daily sid_d-i CD builds are working again for powerpc. Sorry for the long hiatus here! Among other things, those of you with tg3 network cards should be able to use these. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ Are you going to activate the G-I daily build, too? Belatedly, yes, I'd already done so: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-gtk/ -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New miboot-enabled d-i daily builds set up
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:35:51AM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: Le mercredi 03 mai 2006 à 01:11 +0100, Colin Watson a écrit : Hi, I've set up miboot-enabled daily builds of d-i powerpc floppies, to go with my normal daily builds: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-miboot/ Thanks to Sven Luther for the miboot package used to build these. Let me know if there are any problems; I haven't been able to test them myself. I checked it on a PowerMac G3 beige. Here's my results from a Performa 5400 (24 MB RAM): 2006-05-15: Boot ends with Instruction dump: 7ca6 ... ... ... [ a lot of numbers in two lines] Version 2006-05-14 didn't boot at all. 2006-05-14: not tested (suspected the same problem as with 06-05-15) Version 2006-05-13 boots, and it already gets pretty far, but it cannot detect any disk 2006-05-13: Boots OK (didn't put out the floppy automatically though, I had to use a paperclip to get it out). The root image also works good, until hw-detection. Doesn't find my ide disk. ~ # ls /lib/modules/2.6.16-1-powerpc-miboot/kernel/drivers baseieee1394net scsi No ide here! I found the ide drivers on the cd-drivers.img. That should be documented somewhere, since a net-install will fail without hd-support. Also after loading the net-drivers.img the installer failed to detect my ethernet de2104x PCI. I tried to load tulip dc21x4x manually but it failed. This was still an interesting test, since I have not been able to boot 2.6.16 on this machine, but that must be a problem with the initrd created by initramfs (or possibly something with the way quik boots) -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
On 5/15/06, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:58:06PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: On 5/3/06, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, the daily sid_d-i CD builds are working again for powerpc. Sorry for the long hiatus here! Among other things, those of you with tg3 network cards should be able to use these. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ Are you going to activate the G-I daily build, too? Belatedly, yes, I'd already done so: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-gtk/ I found out some time ago ;-) , but is good to have this for tracing. I will try to do weekly tests of the GUI installer and add problems that might occur on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUI. Or should I add a section on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Today ? -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 08:39 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:58:06PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: On 5/3/06, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, the daily sid_d-i CD builds are working again for powerpc. Sorry for the long hiatus here! Among other things, those of you with tg3 network cards should be able to use these. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ Are you going to activate the G-I daily build, too? Belatedly, yes, I'd already done so: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-gtk/ The installer boots fine (requires a patched yaboot to boot via tftp because of initrd.gz size). But then, when initialising graphical installer, it says: Framebuffer not available, disabling graphical frontend. This message is cycling. I'm testing on a powerbook g3 lombard Regards, -- Yves-Alexis Perez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#367149: kbd-chooser: [powerpc] does not detect ADB keyboards
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 07:22:56AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Package: kbd-chooser Version: 1.26 It appears that kbd-chooser does not actually detect ADB keyboards as used for example on Powerbook G4 laptops. Until Beta 2 keyboard selection only worked because of the default mac-usb keyboard added in usb-kbd.c, but that's absolutely not optimal. After a short look at Frank Lichtenhelds laptop, it seems that the keyboard can be detected from the /proc/bus/input/devices file (see attachment). It's currently unsure if the keyboard will work correctly with AT keymaps as well as USB-MAC. I'll test that over the next days. I am not 100% sure, bvut i remember that the 2.6 kernels translate all kind of mac keyboards to the same thing. As such, there is no ADB keyboard needed anymore, as the kernel exports it as a normal keyboard to the userland (or something such, i am no expert in this, CCing debian-powerpc). There is maybe still some need for some specialized layout though. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:04:05PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 08:39 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:58:06PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: On 5/3/06, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, the daily sid_d-i CD builds are working again for powerpc. Sorry for the long hiatus here! Among other things, those of you with tg3 network cards should be able to use these. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ Are you going to activate the G-I daily build, too? Belatedly, yes, I'd already done so: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-gtk/ The installer boots fine (requires a patched yaboot to boot via tftp because of initrd.gz size). But then, when initialising graphical installer, it says: Framebuffer not available, disabling graphical frontend. This message is cycling. I'm testing on a powerbook g3 lombard What framebuffer is used ? atyfb probably ? I believe that this one is builtin in the kernel, it used to be at least. Can you check that ? Basically, there is two possibilities of it failing : 1) the framebuffer device is not builtin, and cannot be found as module. 2) the graphical frontend doesn't know how to deal with builtin framebuffer devices. What strikes me at odd though, is that if you are having output, then you already have a framebuffer device, and thus there is a problem around 2). MAybe it tries to loade vesafb, or something such. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
This one seems to have lost debian-boot, sending there. On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:04:05PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 08:39 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:58:06PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: On 5/3/06, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI, the daily sid_d-i CD builds are working again for powerpc. Sorry for the long hiatus here! Among other things, those of you with tg3 network cards should be able to use these. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ Are you going to activate the G-I daily build, too? Belatedly, yes, I'd already done so: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-gtk/ The installer boots fine (requires a patched yaboot to boot via tftp because of initrd.gz size). But then, when initialising graphical installer, it says: Framebuffer not available, disabling graphical frontend. My analysis here, is that, since there is an output, we are already runnin in some kind of framebuffer devices, either atyfb or offb probably. So, the message seems to be in error, or something, i am not sure, didn't look at the code. It is possible that it is i386 specific, and goes looking for vesafb, but this doesn't explain why eddy was able to make it work (presumably on a radeonfb based powerbook). I think i remember that we had some special casing for radeonfb/powerpc somewhere. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
Hey Sven, On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 03:33:28PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: I think i remember that we had some special casing for radeonfb/powerpc somewhere. I do remember you and Attilio talking about of sort of database for handling the various situations. The best I could come up with is this thread wich I haven't read too carefully but I'm sure that's where all the discussion begun http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/thread/20051202.182847.aaa98ea6.en.html#i20051202.182847.aaa98ea6 hope this helps, Davide signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 15:28 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: What framebuffer is used ? atyfb probably ? I don't really know. I used video=ofonly but it doesnt help. I can login on terminal 4, and it seems that there are no fb module (at least find /lib/module/2.6.16-powerpc-1 -name '*fb*' outputs nothing. I have a /dev/fb0 I've tried to look at scripts run by debian-installer in /lib/debian-installer.d S35 test debconf-get debian-installer/framebuffer to output true, but it's not the case on this powerbook. I believe that this one is builtin in the kernel, it used to be at least. Can you check that ? Basically, there is two possibilities of it failing : 1) the framebuffer device is not builtin, and cannot be found as module. how can I check I check if framebuffer is builtin ? 2) the graphical frontend doesn't know how to deal with builtin framebuffer devices. What strikes me at odd though, is that if you are having output, then you already have a framebuffer device, and thus there is a problem around 2). MAybe it tries to loade vesafb, or something such. dmesg | grep fb outputs nothing useful -- Yves-Alexis Perez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#367149: kbd-chooser: [powerpc] does not detect ADB keyboards
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 07:27 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The current daily images now show the AT keymap list. I've tested this on Frank Lichtenheld's Powerbook G4 laptop, and all keys are mapped OK for the German keyboard. The only change from the USB-MAC keymaps is that the apple key no longer works as the modifier key. Instead these can be accessed using Fn-Alt, which can probably be explained as that is probably equivalent to the right-Alt key on regular AT keyboards on i386. AFAICT the options are: - should the AT keymaps be made to support the apple key as modifier key or - should we go back to using the USB-MAC keymaps for powerpc This may still be necessary, as some Apple keyboards tend to have different layouts from 'standard' PC keyboards. Just as one example, the Swiss German Apple keyboard has the @ symbol on the G key. AFAIK in some other countries the layout can be completely different. - should powerpc users learn to use Fn-Alt instead of the apple key Not sure if the fact that newer Apple laptops treat the fn key differently matters for this, but at any rate the whole fn concept seems to be rather unintuitive and/or inconvenient for people, at least initially. Going back to USB-MAC keymaps is possibly not the prefered option because as I understand it the input layer of the 2.6 kernel translates everything to AT, so in principle all architectures should now use AT keymaps. I'm not very familiar with all the issues involved, but I suspect you may be mixing up keycodes (and/or keysyms?) and keymaps here. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Re: Issues regarding powerpc and Sven
Frans and Colin dropped from Cc's, -boot and -powerpc Bcc'ed only; please avoid crossposting. On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 11:14:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:38:31PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: As I suspect you're all already aware, on 27th April, Sven Luther asked me to review the situation with d-i and powerpc as a result of finding his commit access to the d-i repository had been removed. Having spent some time since then seeing what's been going on, I've concluded that removing Sven's commit access was a reasonable course of action, and won't be asking that you accept Sven's request to have it reinstated. Anthony, d-i team. I would very much like to get the detail of the reasoning behind how you concluded that it was a reasonable course of action, The d-i team were acting under the belief that you no longer wished to work on d-i after a number of conflicts in the past [0]; they then sought to find someone else to work on powerpc issues for d-i on the -powerpc list [1], indicating they need people at all levels to work on it (from testing builds to arch-specific development), and you not only saw that call for help, but participated in the thread [2]. About a month after that got around to removing your commit access. That you now indicate that your intention had been to resign as *lead* powerpc porter for d-i doesn't really change matters; you weren't clear that that was your intention originally, you didn't clarify your intention when Frans stated the d-i team's understanding, and for various reasons your involvement in d-i over the month between the mails above and your noticing your commit access was also removed. I don't think there's anything at all unreasonable in removing commit access for someone who voluntarily resigns from a project, especially when they go on to make it difficult to recruit new members to replace them. That means it becomes a question of whether you joining the d-i team at this point actually makes sense on its own merits, rather than merely as a reversion of a previous bad decision. Since both you and Frans have made it very clear you're uncomfortable working closely with each other at this point, forcing you together seems entirely inappropriate, and against explicilty expressed desires from both of you. [0] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hereby officially announce that i won't continue to do the ungratefull job of powerpc d-i porting, i hear the d-i team has plenty of folk to take my place, so they should fix this. [1] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sven Luther has recently announced [1] that he will no longer work on PowerPC support in Debian Installer. [2] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, that is what i see right now, some of these issues are open since a couple of weeks now, if not more, and i saw nobody jump in to fix then, even after i was scheduled for expulsion, so i hope that frans calls will give more results, altough seeing as it is a tedious process with little respect from the d-i team ... Further, i want to point out that i am the original author of both the nobootloader and prep-installler .udeb packages, and was also early involved in partman-prep (which is currently broken) package from Cajus Pollmeyer. Note that your technical abilities are not in any question. These tree packages are in the debian-installer svn repo, and removing my commit access means additional hurdle to me working on them, It means that if you wish to continue maintaining them, you need to do so independently of the Debian Install System Team, which is listed as the current maintainer, and of which you are no longer a member. If you wish to consult with your co-maintainers for those packages (Matt Kraai and Stephen R Marenka for nobootloader, and Cajus Pollmeier for partman-prep) and setup a new source control repository, that's entirely appropriate. and i think it would be more logical if this confirms itself, that those packages be removed from the d-i svn repo and hosted somewhere else more neutral. You're no longer a member of the d-i team; if they wish to keep those packages' source in their subversion repository, it doesn't matter to you at all. If they wish to maintain a fork compared to your packages, that's fine too. If other members of the d-i team wish to maintain it in your stead, they probably will be expected to justify that change as a package hijack, depending on what your co-maintainers think of the situation. [...] and in any case, i have seen no evidence that this removal of my svn commit access was expected to have any technical effect, only a social one, to get ride of me and make sure i would not be able to interact with d-i in the future. You have been asked to interact with the d-i team a number of times in a number of ways; you have consistently refused to do so by any means other than direct commit access to their subversion repository.
Re: 2.6.17-rc3: cpufreq-set -g ondemand does not work
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:07:50PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: cpufreq-set -g ondemand fails on linux-2.6.17-rc3 PowerBook5,6, config see below. dmesg has: ondemand governor failed to load due to too long transition latency Nobody saw this. It is all working for you? Are people using the ondemand or conservative user land governor? same with conservative. Both modules are loaded as lsmod shows. I will probably try to change the .config to make ondemand or conservative the default, but this might be a bug nevertheless, thus I am reporting. Any hints? Relevant .config: CONFIG_CPU_FREQ=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEBUG=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_STAT=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_STAT_DETAILS=y # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_PERFORMANCE is not set CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_CONSERVATIVE=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PMAC=y # CONFIG_PPC601_SYNC_FIX is not set -- Professional Service for Free Software (intevation.net) The FreeGIS Project (freegis.org) FSFE(fsfeurope.org) pgp40zoAuwCVa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6.17-rc3: cpufreq-set -g ondemand does not work
On 5/8/06, Bernhard Reiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cpufreq-set -g ondemand fails on linux-2.6.17-rc3 PowerBook5,6, config see below. dmesg has: ondemand governor failed to load due to too long transition latency same with conservative. Both modules are loaded as lsmod shows. I will probably try to change the .config to make ondemand or conservative the default, but this might be a bug nevertheless, thus I am reporting. Any hints? Maybe this helps: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-462417.html Best regards, Bin Relevant .config: CONFIG_CPU_FREQ=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEBUG=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_STAT=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_STAT_DETAILS=y # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_PERFORMANCE is not set CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_CONSERVATIVE=m CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PMAC=y # CONFIG_PPC601_SYNC_FIX is not set
Re: 2.6.17-rc3: cpufreq-set -g ondemand does not work
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 19:16 +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:07:50PM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: cpufreq-set -g ondemand fails on linux-2.6.17-rc3 PowerBook5,6, config see below. dmesg has: ondemand governor failed to load due to too long transition latency [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sudo cpufreq-set -g ondemand [~] Error setting new values. Common errors: - Do you have proper administration rights? (super-user?) - Is the governor you requested available and modprobed? - Trying to set an invalid policy? - Trying to set a specific frequency, but userspace governor is not available, for example because of hardware which cannot be set to a specific frequency or because the userspace governor isn't loaded? [EMAIL PROTECTED]: dmesg | tail -1 [~] ondemand governor failed to load due to too long transition latency [EMAIL PROTECTED]: grep demand /boot/config-2.6.17-rc2 [~] CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=y [EMAIL PROTECTED]: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors conservative ondemand powersave userspace performance Nobody saw this. It is all working for you? Are people using the ondemand or conservative user land governor? -- Yves-Alexis Perez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#367149: kbd-chooser: [powerpc] does not detect ADB keyboards
On 5/15/06, Eddy Petrişor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every reference to the „Option key here, was in fact inteneded to be reference to the „Command key. Sorry for the wrong information. I personally use the Option key (or Apple as some might call it) as an AltGr key. The Fn+Alt is used for right click emulation while Fn+Option is for middle click. I need all of the keys as they are in order to be able to use diacritics and be able to use applications in a fast and confortable manner. So please keep this in mind when you decide what to do. P.S. Eddy: a test by you too would be very welcome, especially if you can do a full installation and check the full range of characters on the installed system. Ok, there is a partition on which I can do test installations; btw, two linux installations on a new world powerpc machine imposes a problem: all kernels should be placed on the same partition due to a limitation in yaboot. How does d-i deal with this when Debian is installed on a system on which there is already installed another linux system? -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein
Re: Powernowd on iBook
On Mon, 15 May 2006 09:00:13 +0200, Bin Zhang wrote: Can anybody tell me which kernel modules are to be loaded for an iBook G4? cpufreq_userspace Thank you, works perfectly. See /usr/share/doc/powernowd/README.Debian I did read it prior to writing to the list but did not get the info I needed... anyway thanks again! -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#367149: kbd-chooser: [powerpc] does not detect ADB keyboards
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:38:12PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 07:27 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: The current daily images now show the AT keymap list. I've tested this on Frank Lichtenheld's Powerbook G4 laptop, and all keys are mapped OK for the German keyboard. The only change from the USB-MAC keymaps is that the apple key no longer works as the modifier key. Instead these can be accessed using Fn-Alt, which can probably be explained as that is probably equivalent to the right-Alt key on regular AT keyboards on i386. AFAICT the options are: - should the AT keymaps be made to support the apple key as modifier key or - should we go back to using the USB-MAC keymaps for powerpc This may still be necessary, as some Apple keyboards tend to have different layouts from 'standard' PC keyboards. Just as one example, the Swiss German Apple keyboard has the @ symbol on the G key. AFAIK in some other countries the layout can be completely different. I believe in every country except pure-US, the layout is different, we had loads of problems with this with regard to X keyboard mappings. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 04:01:17PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 15:28 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: What framebuffer is used ? atyfb probably ? I don't really know. I used video=ofonly but it doesnt help. I can login on terminal 4, and it seems that there are no fb module (at least find /lib/module/2.6.16-powerpc-1 -name '*fb*' outputs nothing. I have a /dev/fb0 What does dmesg say, and also what is the content of /proc/fb. My powerbook says : $ more /proc/fb 0 ATI Radeon Lf I believe that this one is builtin in the kernel, it used to be at least. Can you check that ? Basically, there is two possibilities of it failing : 1) the framebuffer device is not builtin, and cannot be found as module. how can I check I check if framebuffer is builtin ? Read the dmesg output, and see what it says. Check /proc/fb too. Check the .config file. Or alternatively give us the lspci output corresponding to your graphic card, and the kernel version used, and i will investigate for you. 2) the graphical frontend doesn't know how to deal with builtin framebuffer devices. What strikes me at odd though, is that if you are having output, then you already have a framebuffer device, and thus there is a problem around 2). MAybe it tries to loade vesafb, or something such. dmesg | grep fb outputs nothing useful Ah, this is suspisious. At least offb and radeonfb are builtin, and either should report a fb-greppable string. Maybe dmesg did overflow ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Issues regarding powerpc and Sven
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 11:18:11PM -0500, Anthony Towns wrote: Frans and Colin dropped from Cc's, -boot and -powerpc Bcc'ed only; please avoid crossposting. As Anthony suggested, i replied on debian-project. For those interested, the thread continues here : http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/05/msg00187.html Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New miboot-enabled d-i daily builds set up
Le lundi 15 mai 2006 à 10:49 +0200, Hans Ekbrand a écrit : On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:35:51AM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: Le mercredi 03 mai 2006 à 01:11 +0100, Colin Watson a écrit : Hi, I've set up miboot-enabled daily builds of d-i powerpc floppies, to go with my normal daily builds: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-miboot/ Thanks to Sven Luther for the miboot package used to build these. Let me know if there are any problems; I haven't been able to test them myself. I checked it on a PowerMac G3 beige. Here's my results from a Performa 5400 (24 MB RAM): 2006-05-15: Boot ends with Instruction dump: 7ca6 ... ... ... [ a lot of numbers in two lines] Version 2006-05-14 didn't boot at all. 2006-05-14: not tested (suspected the same problem as with 06-05-15) Version 2006-05-13 boots, and it already gets pretty far, but it cannot detect any disk 2006-05-13: Boots OK (didn't put out the floppy automatically though, I had to use a paperclip to get it out). The root image also works good, until hw-detection. You're right, I got used to the paperclip stuff with the previous versions, so I didn't even bother to specify it, but it is surely not practical at all. Doesn't find my ide disk. Same thing here, except that I'm not actually sure it is an IDE disk, and not an SCSI one (I think I have both in the machine, and none is detected). ~ # ls /lib/modules/2.6.16-1-powerpc-miboot/kernel/drivers base ieee1394net scsi No ide here! I found the ide drivers on the cd-drivers.img. That should be documented somewhere, since a net-install will fail without hd-support. Thanks, I will try this. Also after loading the net-drivers.img the installer failed to detect my ethernet de2104x PCI. I tried to load tulip dc21x4x manually but it failed. It detects mine (this is the second NIC I talked about in my mail). This was still an interesting test, since I have not been able to boot 2.6.16 on this machine, but that must be a problem with the initrd created by initramfs (or possibly something with the way quik boots) -- Jérôme Warnier FLOSS Consultant http://beeznest.net
Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 23:53 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 04:01:17PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 15:28 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: What framebuffer is used ? atyfb probably ? I don't really know. I used video=ofonly but it doesnt help. I can login on terminal 4, and it seems that there are no fb module (at least find /lib/module/2.6.16-powerpc-1 -name '*fb*' outputs nothing. I have a /dev/fb0 What does dmesg say, and also what is the content of /proc/fb. My powerbook says : $ more /proc/fb 0 ATI Radeon Lf 0 OFfb ATY,264LTP 1 OFfb ATY,264LTP I believe that this one is builtin in the kernel, it used to be at least. Can you check that ? Basically, there is two possibilities of it failing : 1) the framebuffer device is not builtin, and cannot be found as module. how can I check I check if framebuffer is builtin ? Read the dmesg output, and see what it says. Check /proc/fb too. Check the .config file. dmesg says nothing about framebuffer. The .config is the one used when generating powerpc gtk installer, don't know where to find it. Or alternatively give us the lspci output corresponding to your graphic card, and the kernel version used, and i will investigate for you. Linux 2.6.16-1-powerpc lspci isn't very verbose at the moment because there are only unknown devices. I'll reinstall a debian on it without the gtk installer to have those informations. 2) the graphical frontend doesn't know how to deal with builtin framebuffer devices. What strikes me at odd though, is that if you are having output, then you already have a framebuffer device, and thus there is a problem around 2). MAybe it tries to loade vesafb, or something such. dmesg | grep fb outputs nothing useful Ah, this is suspisious. At least offb and radeonfb are builtin, and either should report a fb-greppable string. Maybe dmesg did overflow ? Possible yes, I'll try a restart before reinstalling -- Yves-Alexis Perez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New miboot-enabled d-i daily builds set up
Le lundi 15 mai 2006 à 18:16 +0200, Jerome Warnier a écrit : Le lundi 15 mai 2006 à 10:49 +0200, Hans Ekbrand a écrit : On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:35:51AM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: Le mercredi 03 mai 2006 à 01:11 +0100, Colin Watson a écrit : Hi, I've set up miboot-enabled daily builds of d-i powerpc floppies, to go with my normal daily builds: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-miboot/ Thanks to Sven Luther for the miboot package used to build these. Let me know if there are any problems; I haven't been able to test them myself. I checked it on a PowerMac G3 beige. Here's my results from a Performa 5400 (24 MB RAM): 2006-05-15: Boot ends with Instruction dump: 7ca6 ... ... ... [ a lot of numbers in two lines] Version 2006-05-14 didn't boot at all. 2006-05-14: not tested (suspected the same problem as with 06-05-15) Version 2006-05-13 boots, and it already gets pretty far, but it cannot detect any disk 2006-05-13: Boots OK (didn't put out the floppy automatically though, I had to use a paperclip to get it out). The root image also works good, until hw-detection. You're right, I got used to the paperclip stuff with the previous versions, so I didn't even bother to specify it, but it is surely not practical at all. Some more news on this side: it seems that once the cd-drivers floppy is loaded, it can (and actually does) eject the floppies after reading them. Could it be that the eject utility is located on this floppy image? In this cas, it would probably be a good idea to move it to the root floppy (at least on OldWorld PPC, or only on PPC floppies). Doesn't find my ide disk. Same thing here, except that I'm not actually sure it is an IDE disk, and not an SCSI one (I think I have both in the machine, and none is detected). It seems I have at least a SCSI one, but it does not work nicely (again, once the cd-drivers floppy is loaded): it gets detected multiple times, and at least the first one doesn't work like expected, it is impossible to partition and format. ~ # ls /lib/modules/2.6.16-1-powerpc-miboot/kernel/drivers baseieee1394net scsi No ide here! I found the ide drivers on the cd-drivers.img. That should be documented somewhere, since a net-install will fail without hd-support. Thanks, I will try this. Also after loading the net-drivers.img the installer failed to detect my ethernet de2104x PCI. I tried to load tulip dc21x4x manually but it failed. It detects mine (this is the second NIC I talked about in my mail). This was still an interesting test, since I have not been able to boot 2.6.16 on this machine, but that must be a problem with the initrd created by initramfs (or possibly something with the way quik boots)
Re: iMac Sleep
I played with Ubuntu 5.10 in the last few days and found that it (also) properly shuts down the display. I haven't had the opportunity yet to see experiemtn and what or how its happening. Since it's based on Debian, it gives me hope. :) On 5/15/06, Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 05:46 -0700, Jason Self wrote: On 5/7/06, Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you send me a tarball of /proc/device-tree on your machine ? Here it is. Looks like an IVAD 1, there is code in Darwin to drive it... Ben.
