Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64
Christian Jaeger wrote: Jérôme Warnier wrote: In this case, why bother using MOL? Just install Mac OS 9 directly under your qemu VM. We're waiting for your confirmation that you have first-hand experience of running Mac OS 9 directly under qemu, or can refer to reports of doing that successfully. On http://www.claunia.com:16080/qemu/ , which is being linked by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines , I can read GuestOS: MacOS, Version: 9.0, Guest system: Heathrow PowerMac, Working: No. On http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?f=6t=4284 one can read a post from Feb 03, 2008 in a thread named Call for ideas!: More urgent items would be (...) Classic (Mac OS 9) support (...) Did you really want to say: In this case, I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to run Mac OS 9 directly under qemu. Maybe you didn't realize that this might be supported and should research that topic? I would be interested in the outcome. ? Yes. And my rationale behind was that adding virtualization levels would certainly not help achieving decent stability or performance. But if reports say it does not work, then it's another story of course, ... Sorry for misleading you with my lack of experience. Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestions for running Mac OS 9.0.1 on debian-x86-64
Christian Jaeger wrote: Jérôme Warnier wrote: Just my .2c: Both applications also exist for Windows, and probably run nicely under WINE. Yes, I've thought about this, too, but I'd have to get a copy of those apps only for the purpose of the conversion; also I was still using FileMaker 4. Also there might be further (even if less compelling) reasons to run the old Mac OS for me, too. So I'd prefer the emulation path. In this case, why bother using MOL? Just install Mac OS 9 directly under your qemu VM. Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New miboot-enabled d-i daily builds set up
Le lundi 15 mai 2006 à 18:16 +0200, Jerome Warnier a écrit : Le lundi 15 mai 2006 à 10:49 +0200, Hans Ekbrand a écrit : On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:35:51AM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: Le mercredi 03 mai 2006 à 01:11 +0100, Colin Watson a écrit : Hi, I've set up miboot-enabled daily builds of d-i powerpc floppies, to go with my normal daily builds: http://people.debian.org/~cjwatson/d-i/powerpc-miboot/ Thanks to Sven Luther for the miboot package used to build these. Let me know if there are any problems; I haven't been able to test them myself. I checked it on a PowerMac G3 beige. Here's my results from a Performa 5400 (24 MB RAM): 2006-05-15: Boot ends with Instruction dump: 7ca6 ... ... ... [ a lot of numbers in two lines] Version 2006-05-14 didn't boot at all. 2006-05-14: not tested (suspected the same problem as with 06-05-15) Version 2006-05-13 boots, and it already gets pretty far, but it cannot detect any disk 2006-05-13: Boots OK (didn't put out the floppy automatically though, I had to use a paperclip to get it out). The root image also works good, until hw-detection. You're right, I got used to the paperclip stuff with the previous versions, so I didn't even bother to specify it, but it is surely not practical at all. Some more news on this side: it seems that once the cd-drivers floppy is loaded, it can (and actually does) eject the floppies after reading them. Could it be that the eject utility is located on this floppy image? In this cas, it would probably be a good idea to move it to the root floppy (at least on OldWorld PPC, or only on PPC floppies). Doesn't find my ide disk. Same thing here, except that I'm not actually sure it is an IDE disk, and not an SCSI one (I think I have both in the machine, and none is detected). It seems I have at least a SCSI one, but it does not work nicely (again, once the cd-drivers floppy is loaded): it gets detected multiple times, and at least the first one doesn't work like expected, it is impossible to partition and format. ~ # ls /lib/modules/2.6.16-1-powerpc-miboot/kernel/drivers baseieee1394net scsi No ide here! I found the ide drivers on the cd-drivers.img. That should be documented somewhere, since a net-install will fail without hd-support. Thanks, I will try this. Also after loading the net-drivers.img the installer failed to detect my ethernet de2104x PCI. I tried to load tulip dc21x4x manually but it failed. It detects mine (this is the second NIC I talked about in my mail). This was still an interesting test, since I have not been able to boot 2.6.16 on this machine, but that must be a problem with the initrd created by initramfs (or possibly something with the way quik boots)
Install on OldWorld
So where are we? What about the miboot floppy images? Did we progress? I have several OldWorld waiting to be freed here. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.
Le jeudi 13 octobre 2005 à 13:14 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:29:21PM +0200, Jérôme Warnier wrote: Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 à 15:24 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:14:00PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:03:13PM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: Nope, they are available since a couple of weeks :) Sorry, but there is only cdrom, hd-media, and netboot in http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/. Is it netboot? Oh, damn, the floppies are still disabled then, will fix for tomorrow then. The main problem is that the drivers and other images are way too big for floppies. Ah, joeyh disabled them and forgot to reenable them once the miboot kernels entered the archive :/ So, I tried those available right now, and the boot image does not work (the Mac ejects the floppy automatically after trying to read it). Which those available right now ? Those in http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy (now=yesterday evening). The etch/sarge/testing one will never work until we free miboot, so you need the daily builds, and they should work. Also, it is well possible that your floppies or drive is dusty or something. Your miboot.floppy of the other day worked, and I reused the same floppies and tried with others, but boot.img did not work (it was ejected by the Mac). Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.
Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 à 15:24 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:14:00PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 03:03:13PM +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: Nope, they are available since a couple of weeks :) Sorry, but there is only cdrom, hd-media, and netboot in http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/. Is it netboot? Oh, damn, the floppies are still disabled then, will fix for tomorrow then. The main problem is that the drivers and other images are way too big for floppies. Ah, joeyh disabled them and forgot to reenable them once the miboot kernels entered the archive :/ So, I tried those available right now, and the boot image does not work (the Mac ejects the floppy automatically after trying to read it). Friendly, Sven Luther
Linux-tiny (Was: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.)
[..] I would say that if more of the linux-tiny patches were incorporated in the mainline kernel, then it would be a really nice addition. I'm not aware of linux-tiny. Where can I learn more about it? http://www.selenic.com/linux-tiny/ Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.
Le mercredi 21 septembre 2005 à 19:54 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 05:00:44AM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: On Aug 18 2005, Sven Luther wrote: I was forced to disable the floppy builds for now, since they failed to build, and the 2.6.12 kernels are 200K too big anyway for miboot floppies, we need to find out how to make them smaller, and solve the non-freeness of miboot for the etch release. Humm, this is indeed a problem. :-( The non-freeness of miboot is a secondary problem in face of not having a way to install the operating system on the box. :-( i managed to do a powerpc-miboot flavour build, which does fit on a miboot floppy. I would like (urgently) for folk to test it out, it is just a kernel, i need to see if it boots, not much more for now, before i go ahead and upload 2.6.12-7 which would include it, and subsequently build debian-installer images with it. The floppy is at : http://people.debian.org/~luther/miboot.floppy It boots happily on my PowerMacintosh G3. Where am I supposed to find the matching root disk image file, though? Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: powerpc d-i daily builds reactivated, use 2.6.12 kernels, including 64bit kernels, miboot floppies dropped for now.
Le lundi 10 octobre 2005 à 12:37 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:32:33PM +0200, Jérôme Warnier wrote: Le mercredi 21 septembre 2005 à 19:54 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 05:00:44AM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: On Aug 18 2005, Sven Luther wrote: I was forced to disable the floppy builds for now, since they failed to build, and the 2.6.12 kernels are 200K too big anyway for miboot floppies, we need to find out how to make them smaller, and solve the non-freeness of miboot for the etch release. Humm, this is indeed a problem. :-( The non-freeness of miboot is a secondary problem in face of not having a way to install the operating system on the box. :-( i managed to do a powerpc-miboot flavour build, which does fit on a miboot floppy. I would like (urgently) for folk to test it out, it is just a kernel, i need to see if it boots, not much more for now, before i go ahead and upload 2.6.12-7 which would include it, and subsequently build debian-installer images with it. The floppy is at : http://people.debian.org/~luther/miboot.floppy It boots happily on my PowerMacintosh G3. Where am I supposed to find the matching root disk image file, though? That was just a test image, no matching root, but i enabled this on the daily builds now : http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy Or something such. I guess it will only be available tomorrow, then? No problem, just to be sure. Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: gcc install problems in sarge testing
Le dim 29/08/2004 à 23:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Greetings: I recently installed sarge testing onto my powerbook G3. i have most things working, however there seems to be no compiler! I noticed that when i installed that there was no option for development stuff in tasksel... could this have been forshadowing of what was to come? i noticed that gcc-3.3-base was installed, but the actual compiler collection was not.. so after an apt-get install gcc-3.3 i am left with a bunch of dpkg errors... (see below) This is a known bug in Sarge on all arch, and should be fixed now. See #268771 (there are lots of bugs which have been merged). [..] -- Jérôme Warnier Consultant BeezNest http://beeznest.net
