Re: Laptop Mode

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 08:04:37PM +0200, Matthias Grimm wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 15. September 2004 15:32 schrieb christophe barbe:
> > > The laptop-mode-tools don't run out-of-the-box on powerpc machines yet.
> > > You need to make the connection from laptop-mode-tools to your power
> > > management daemon by hand. In your case you have to add some lines in
> > > pwctrl-local:
> >
> > This is WRONG.
> 
> I'm sorry to contradict you and I would also understand you if you didn't CRY.

I was not crying , I was making sure that your readers will not stay with
a wrong information.

First I should say that I am a laptop-mode-tools user and the sponsor
for the package (So I have regular close looks at the package).

Right now I don't have much time to explain in details but suffice
to say that it already works with pbbuttonsd (via
/etc/power/event.d/apmd-compat if I remember correctly) but some scripts
(bdflush and hdsetup) need to be disabled IMHO because they interact
with laptop-mode.

Christophe
 
> > laptop-mode-tools works out of the box on all architectures. The main
> > purpose of the package is to set the laptop-mode automatically (to
> > integrate it in debian).
> 
> Following is a part of the bug report to pmud from laptop-mode-tools author 
> Bart Samwel:
> 
> "I've got a patch to pmud that makes it execute, in addition to
> pwrctl-local, all files in the directory /etc/power/pwrctl.d. I need this
> because I'm working on laptop-mode-tools, and I can't find a failsafe way
> to hook into events provided by pmud like I can with apmd and acpid."
> 
> This means that the laptop-mode-tools won't connect to any power management 
> daemon running on powerpc. Due to this laptop-mode-tools won't run 
> out-of-the-box on powerpc machines, right? You need to add the command to the 
> control script by hand. Otherwise laptop mode wouldn't be changed if power 
> source changed. That the laptop-mode-script must also be lauched at boot time 
> is only a workaround for insufficient quality of the PM-daemons.
> 
> > In Bryan case, I am not sure. Perhaps '/etc/init.d/laptop-mode start'
> > needs to be invoked once if he has not restarted his computer since he
> > installed laptop-mode-tools.
> 
> IMHO laptop-mode is a dynamic option that must adapt to changing conditions. 
> This can only be done in conjunction with a power management daemon. Anything 
> else doesn't make much sense.
> 
>  Best Regards
>Matthias
> 
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Re: Laptop Mode

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 09:56:17PM +0200, Kiko Piris wrote:
> > Anything else doesn't make much sense.
> 
> Nope, this is not true (at least for me :-).
> 
> I use laptop-mode on my iBook and I "start" it with a /etc/init.d
> script.
> 
> I want it running *all the time* (regardless if I'm on battery or on AC
> adapter) because I use it to lower a bit the temperature of the hard
> disk.
> 
> So, I don't want any daemon of any kind to play with my laptop-mode
> settings.

laptop-mode-tools is not a deamon but a set a script hooked where it
matters to nicely integrate with debian. For your case, Bart implemented
a always-on mode (LAPTOP_MODE_ALWAYS_ON), that's what I use (in my case
because my hard-drive is too noisy to my taste). 

Christophe

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Re: Laptop Mode

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 10:27:05AM +0200, Matthias Grimm wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 14. September 2004 18:05 schrieb Bryan Forbes:
> > I've installed laptop-mode-tools and started it up, but when I switch to

To be clear, bryan installed the 'laptop-mode-tools' package.

> > battery, it doesn't switch laptop mode on (cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode
> > returns 0, and it should return 2 if it's on laptop mode).  Do I need to
> > install a hook to turn on laptop-mode when pmud detects I go to battery
> > and vice-versa for ac?  Thanks in advance!
> 
> The laptop-mode-tools don't run out-of-the-box on powerpc machines yet. You 
> need to make the connection from laptop-mode-tools to your power management 
> daemon by hand. In your case you have to add some lines in pwctrl-local:

This is WRONG.

laptop-mode-tools works out of the box on all architectures. The main
purpose of the package is to set the laptop-mode automatically (to
integrate it in debian). 

In Bryan case, I am not sure. Perhaps '/etc/init.d/laptop-mode start'
needs to be invoked once if he has not restarted his computer since he
installed laptop-mode-tools.

Christophe

> minimum)
>   laptop_mode start
> ;;
> maximum)
>   laptop_mode stop
> ;;
> 
> This might work.
> 
>   Best Regards
>  Matthias
> 
> 
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Re: Laptop Mode

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 04:27:10PM +0200, Matthias Grimm wrote:
> pbbuttonsd - this daemon works also on powerpc machines and try to support 
> the 
> full range of power management from dimming the display if idle, over spin 
> down the hard disk to different suspend modes. Battery supervision and 
> emergency shutdown are also included as support for most of Apple specific 
> hardware and hotkeys.

When used in conjonction with laptop-mode-tools, a few scripts need to
be disabled to avoid interacting with laptop-mode (the ones using hdparm
and friends).

Christophe

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Re: mono packages

[christophe barbe]

I currently have monodevelop monodoc and muine working on
debian/unstable. Everything I had to do was to rebuild from deb source
a few packages that were not built for ppc for missing
build-dependencies. 

Concerning mcs, as far as I can see it is available as a debian package
from debian/unstable. The same goes for the the interpretor and the jit:

~$ apt-cache policy mono-mcs mono-jit
mono-mcs:
  Installés : 1.0-1
  Candidat : 1.0-1
 Table de version :
 *** 1.0-1 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
mono-jit:
  Installés : 1.0-1
  Candidat : 1.0-3
 Table de version :
 1.0-3 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages
 *** 1.0-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Christophe


On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:00:01PM +1000, Greg Hamilton wrote:
> I tried to install Mono using apt-get. Seems, for PPC at least, there 
> is an unmet dependancy: mono-assemblies-arch.
> 
> Has anybody else tried running Mono on PPC Debian? Is there a solution 
> to this problem, other than building from source?
> 
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Re: gnome 2.6 -> no more .Xmodmap

[christophe barbe]

So far the best solution I have found is to load my Xmodmap file myself:
~$ xmodmap .Xmodmap

The gnome keyboard properties is really scary. I was not expecting this
kind of thing from gnome.

Another gnome 2.6 disapointment is the fact that when you logout, you can see
gnome switching to the default theme before quiting. Perhaps my laptop
is not fast enough but to me it looks like a regression.

Thanks,
Christophe

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gnome 2.6 -> no more .Xmodmap

[christophe barbe]

I upgraded to gnome 2.6 yesterday and it went rather well (except that I
was prompted to accept the new config file for each schema file in capplet
IIRC). But when login in gnome 2.6, I was inform that my .Xmodmap would
be ignored and I had to use the keyboard properties.

Here is the content of my .Xmodmap:
~$ cat .Xmodmap
keycode 108 = Multi_key
keycode 115 = Mode_switch
keysym m = m M mu

The really important thing for me is the Multi_key definition (ie.
compose key), the code 108 is for the "Enter" key on my powerbook.
The keyboard property dialog proposes only three possibilities for the
compose key: "Menu" "Right Alt" "Right Win". Obviously I have none of
them in my keyboard.

Is there a way to restore the old way (read my .Xmodmap) or to add a
possibility to the keyboard properties.

I looked in gconf and the compose key code is set by name:
   options = [compose compose:menu]

Thanks,
Christophe

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Re: Airport Monitor Mode Patches

[christophe barbe]

I have a preliminary kernel module package that replace the stock
orinoco/airport drivers with those from the savannah project: 
   
   http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/orinoco/

You can find my package at:

   http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/tmp/

I should update the source but the current one should work with any 2.4
and 2.6 kernel. I currently use it with 2.6.5-mc1.

Christophe

On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 03:03:51PM -0700, Paul Mullen wrote:
> What's the current status of the monitor-mode patches for the Airport
> (older 802.11b-only cards) kernel module? Six months ago I was able to
> apply a patch posted in July '03 by Jens Schmalzing to the 2.4.23-benh
> tree, but with partial success. The resulting kernel compiled fine and
> monitor mode worked, but my system would only run for a brief period of
> time before 'ksoftirqd_CPU0' ran out of control, consuming 99% of
> processor time.
> 
> Are there any plans to roll the monitor-mode driver patches into the
> main kernel tree at some point in the future? If not, why?
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
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Re: xsane crash

[christophe barbe]

On Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 08:43:23AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Try to downgrade libusb before doing anything else...
> 
> For me, libusb after 0.1-4_1%3a.0.1.7.x simply don't work.
> 
> The actual version is :
> 
> libusb-0.1-4_1%3a0.1.8-7_powerpc.deb
> 
> Not working, because xsane segfault for me too. So, for sure, something 
> has changed between the two versions...
> 
> 
> BTW : the last version working for me is 
> libusb-0.1-4_1%3a0.1.7-3_powerpc.deb

1:0.1.8-7 works for me with gphoto2. Could you try to rebuild xsane
against the latest libusb-dev?

Christophe

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A qui sait comprendre, peu de mots suffisent.
(Intelligenti pauca.) 

2.6.3-ben2 and "usbfs: USBDEVFS_BULK failed ..."

[christophe barbe]

I am having problems using gphoto2 with the 2.6 kernel.
It works a little bit and then the kernel output:

   usbfs: USBDEVFS_BULK failed dev 3 ep 0x81 len 4096 ret -110

Is anyone seeing this too?

libusb is using /proc/bus/usb.

Christophe

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[RFC] Package for orinoco (airport) drivers with scanning support

[christophe barbe]

I have prepared a kernel source package for the orinoco driver from
upstream CVS. In upstream CVS [1], Moustafa Youssef scanning support has
been merged among other improvements.

You can find the package 'orinoco-cvs-module-src' at:

   http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/tmp/

It's a kernel source package so is intented to be used with
kernel-package. If you build your own kernel with make-kpkg, you can
build a orinoco drivers package with the following commands:

~$ cd /usr/src
~$ tar -xvzf orinoco-cvs.tar.gz
~$ cd path_to_the_kernel_tree
~$ make-kpkg modules_image
~$ cd ..
~$ ls orinoco-cvs*.deb

I have only tested it with 2.6 kernels but I suspect it works with 2.4
kernels too.

With this enhanced orinoco (airport) driver you can scan for available
wlans with the following command:

~$ iwlist eth1 scan

If you have an essid set, you will see only this wlan. If you want to
see all available wlans, you should temporarily unset your essid
(iwconfig eth1 essid any). 
I personnaly use the scanning feature to connect to a known wlan
automatically (using my modest ethernetd daemon [2]).

Feedback welcome,
Christophe

Note: I used Michel Dänzer drm-trunk-module-src as a model for this
package.

[1] http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/orinoco/
[2] http://cattlegrid.net/ethernetd/

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Re: (no) Sleep with 2.6.3-ben2 on tibook3

[Christophe Barbe]

Le mer 03/03/2004 à 17:18, Michel Dänzer a écrit :
> > I think the problem is in my .config file.
> > Now that I think about it, I believe Michel Daenzer has a TiBook3 too.
> 
> Almost, it's a TiBook IV. :) My config is
> http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/config-2.6.3-ben1-ck1 .

So my memory is partially corrupted.
Thanks for the config file, I am trying it.

Christophe

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Re: (no) Sleep with 2.6.3-ben2 on tibook3

[Christophe Barbe]

Le mer 03/03/2004 à 16:39, Benjamin Herrenschmidt a écrit :
> That's weird. I works fine on the rev IV I have here and a friend
> of mind has it working with a rev III...

I think the problem is in my .config file.
Now that I think about it, I believe Michel Daenzer has a TiBook3 too.

Michel, if you have a TiBook3 and a working .config file for 2.6, could
you send it to me. Thanks (sorry if my memory got corrupted). 

Thanks,
Christophe

> 
> Ben.
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(no) Sleep with 2.6.3-ben2 on tibook3

[christophe barbe]

When booting 2.6.3-ben2, the sleep support is broken. It's not an X
related problem as it happens on console (with no X at all).
When I put the laptop to sleep, the screen stay up and get blurred
(large white spots). If I press the powerbutton, the rest of the laptop
comes back from sleep and I get the prompt again but the console is
mostly garbaged. I then have to reboot the computer.

I thought it was a problem with the new radeon driver and tried with the
old and got the same problem.

I attach my .config file.

Note that I have never tried 2.6 on this laptop before so I don't know
if this is a new problem or not. Should I try an older kernel?

Thanks,
Christophe 

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#
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#
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# Processor
#
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# CONFIG_44x is not set
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# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PROC_INTF is not set
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CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE is not set
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PMAC=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=y
CONFIG_PPC601_SYNC_FIX=y
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#
# Platform options
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# CONFIG_APUS is not set
# CONFIG_WILLOW is not set
# CONFIG_PCORE is not set
# CONFIG_POWERPMC250 is not set
# CONFIG_EV64260 is not set
# CONFIG_SPRUCE is not set
# CONFIG_LOPEC is not set
# CONFIG_MCPN765 is not set
# CONFIG_MVME5100 is not set
# CONFIG_PPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_PRPMC750 is not set
# CONFIG_PRPMC800 is not set
# CONFIG_SANDPOINT is not set
# CONFIG_ADIR is not set
# CONFIG_K2 is not set
# CONFIG_PAL4 is not set
# CONFIG_GEMINI is not set
# CONFIG_EST8260 is not set
# CONFIG_SBS8260 is not set
# CONFIG_RPX6 is not set
# CONFIG_TQM8260 is not set
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CONFIG_PPC_PMAC=y
CONFIG_PPC_PREP=y
CONFIG_PPC_OF=y
CONFIG_PPCBUG_NVRAM=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m
CONFIG_PROC_DEVICETREE=y
# CONFIG_PPC_RTAS is not set
# CONFIG_PREP_RESIDUAL is not set
# CONFIG_CMDLINE_BOOL is not set

#
# Bus options
#
# CONFIG_ISA is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_PCI_DOMAINS=y
# CONFIG_PCI_LEGACY_PROC is not set
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y

#
# PCMCIA/CardBus support
#
CONFIG_PCMCIA=m
# CONFIG_YENTA is not set
CONFIG_I82092=m
CONFIG_TCIC=m

#
# Advanced setup
#
# CONFIG_ADVANCED_OPTIONS is not set

#
# Default settings for advanced configuration options are used
#
CONFIG_HIGHMEM_START=0xfe00
CONFIG_LOWMEM_SIZE=0x3000
CONFIG_KERNEL_START=0xc000
CONFIG_TASK_SIZE=0x8000
CONFIG_BOOT_LOAD=0x0080

#
# Device Drivers
#

#
# Generic Driver Options
#
# CONFIG_FW_LOADER is not set

#
# Memory Technology Devices (MTD)
#
# CONFIG_MTD is not set

#
# Parallel port support
#
# CONFIG_PARPORT is not set

#
# Plug and Play support
#

#
# Block devices
#
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# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=4096
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
# CONFIG_LBD is not set

#
# ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support
#
CONFIG_IDE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
# CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE is not set
# CONFIG_IDEDISK_STROKE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECS=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=m
# CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set
# CONFIG_IDE_TASKFILE_IO is not set

#
# IDE chipset support/bugfixes
#
CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENER

Re: benh 2.6.3 kernel problems TiBook III

[christophe barbe]

On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:43:38PM -0500, christophe barbe wrote:
> I am trying the 2.6 kernel. It looks like it locks after the open-pic
> exit line but in fact it simply run without the console. I heard
> hard-drive noises, waited and got X.

Setting FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE solved the problem.

see Device Drivers/Graphics support/Framebuffer Console Support

Mike: does it solve your problem too?

Christophe

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Re: benh 2.6.3 kernel problems TiBook III

[christophe barbe]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:03:15PM -0700, Mike Van Milligan wrote:
>   I just built the 2.6.3 kernel from souce.mvista.com. Everything went 
> fine, I installed it, ran ybin and rebooted. Then the fun started, 
> while booting, it locked on the open-pic: exit line. The same problem 
> that arose when I tried building the 2.6.3 source from kernel.org. I 
> asked around and everyone told me to get ben's kernel so I did, yet I 
> received the same result. I am running a TiBook III, 800 MHz, 1 GB RAM 
> (I had sid running prior to this build). I used basically the config 
> from  added some 
> crypto features, but didn't touch anything else. I was wondering if 
> there is a quick fix to this? Am I able to build 2.6.xx? Is there an 
> easier way to get back into my system, instead of re-installing (for 
> the 4th time)? Any help would be appreciated!

I am trying the 2.6 kernel. It looks like it locks after the open-pic
exit line but in fact it simply run without the console. I heard
hard-drive noises, waited and got X.

Christophe

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Re: benh 2.6.3 kernel problems TiBook III

[christophe barbe]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:03:15PM -0700, Mike Van Milligan wrote:
> (I had sid running prior to this build). I used basically the config 
> from  added some 

Just to make sure: My kernel config on my dated page is for a 2.4
kernel. The default config that comes with Ben's kernel is perhaps
(certainly) a better default. 
I have yet to upgrade to 2.6.

Christophe

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Re: OT: Upgrading DVD firmware on TiBook

[christophe barbe]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:33:31AM +1030, Ryan Verner wrote:
> On 29/02/2004, at 8:54 AM, christophe barbe wrote:
> 
> >I wonder if someone know a way to install a new firmware for a DVD
> >player (to fix a design design flaw, sort of) that is provided as a
> >MacOS9 binary. I have MacOS X on dual boot but not MacOS 9.
> >Is it possible somehow to do it from the Mac OS 9 install CD? Is it
> >possible to add MacOS 9 to MacOS X without reinstalling everything?
> 
> Regarding the latter, I believe you can just pull the OS9 System Folder 
> over from another OSX+OS9 machine, and then Classic will work perfectly 
> inside OS X.

Will it be possible to boot with Mac OS 9 after? The firmware can't be
installed from Classic unfortunately.

Christophe

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OT: Upgrading DVD firmware on TiBook

[christophe barbe]

I wonder if someone know a way to install a new firmware for a DVD
player (to fix a design design flaw, sort of) that is provided as a
MacOS9 binary. I have MacOS X on dual boot but not MacOS 9. 
Is it possible somehow to do it from the Mac OS 9 install CD? Is it
possible to add MacOS 9 to MacOS X without reinstalling everything?

Thanks,
Christophe

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Re: error compiling mol modules

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:51:26PM +0100, Jean-Christophe Michel wrote:
> Hi, I tried to use make-kpkg modules_image
> and got:

I don't know but I just got another one:

dh_strip
dh_compress
dh_fixperms
dh_installdeb
dh_gencontrol
dpkg-gencontrol: error: source paragraph in control info file is missing Source 
line
dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 65280
make[2]: *** [binary-mol-modules] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/mol'
make[1]: *** [kdist_image] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/mol'
Module /usr/src/modules/mol failed.
Hit return to Continue

Christophe

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Re: pbuilder (amiga-fdisk), evolution (gal2) issues

[christophe barbe]

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:26:43AM -0500, christophe barbe wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:20:36AM -0500, christophe barbe wrote:
> > I will send a mail to -gtk-gnome to ask them to NMU gal2.
> 
> I did it and a NMU followed quickly. Kudos to the -gtk-gnome guys.
> Hoppefully the other packages will follow.

In case somebody is looking for that, I have placed a few debs for
powerpc that are not yet available in the archive (they are unmodified
package rebuilt from apt-get source):

   http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/tmp/

Currently I have gal2, gtkhtml3, evolution.

Christophe

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Re: pbuilder (amiga-fdisk), evolution (gal2) issues

[christophe barbe]

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:20:36AM -0500, christophe barbe wrote:
> I will send a mail to -gtk-gnome to ask them to NMU gal2.

I did it and a NMU followed quickly. Kudos to the -gtk-gnome guys.
Hoppefully the other packages will follow.

Christophe

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Re: pbuilder (amiga-fdisk), evolution (gal2) issues

[christophe barbe]

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:28:57AM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote:
> I use an APT repository with a local apache for that, a file:// APT
> repository might also work.

I created a dummy package of amiga-fdisk (the original even FTBFS) with
equivs (with a higher version number) and was hopping to work around 
the pbuilder issue by using it via a local repository but apparently
pbuilder doesn't consider the OTHERMIRROR at this early stage (create).

Currently I have:
OTHERMIRROR="deb http://localhost/~christophe/apt/binary/ ./"
in pbuilderrc with
   amiga-fdisk_0.04-7_all.deb
in it.

Any idea?

Christophe

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Re: pbuilder (amiga-fdisk), evolution (gal2) issues

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 11:37:14PM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote:
> > Then I decided to built everything in a chroot to save some time (to get
> > a fixed gal2 and everything rebuilt against it is going to take some
> > time). So I installed pbuilder only to discover that it doesn't work out
> > of the box for unstable/powerpc because amiga-fdisk is required but
> > depends on a library that is not. see:
> > 
> >http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=217848
> > 
> > So is there a way to ask pbuilder to not install amiga-fdisk or another
> > way around?
> 
> I have amiga-fdisk (along with many other packages) in the
> REMOVEPACKAGES line in /etc/pbuilder/pbuilderrc, not sure if that'll
> help for creating a chroot though, maybe you need to start with testing
> or even woody and then upgrade to sid.

I tried to create the chroot after adding amiga-fdisk after lilo and got
hit by the same problem. I will try to create a testing chroot and then
upgrade. Two questions:
. Is REMOVEPACKAGES a comma separated list "lilo,amiga-fdisk" ?
. If I successfully build gal2, how can I use the resulting debs in the
chroot?

Thanks,
Christophe

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pbuilder (amiga-fdisk), evolution (gal2) issues

[christophe barbe]

I was trying to figure out why the last uploaded evolution was not available 
for powerpc (in order to complete my g2.4 upgrade) and found that gal2
was the culprit because it was built against a non-existing
libgnomecanvas2. So I filed a bug against gal2:

   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=218848

If I missed something please explain it to me.

Then I decided to built everything in a chroot to save some time (to get
a fixed gal2 and everything rebuilt against it is going to take some
time). So I installed pbuilder only to discover that it doesn't work out
of the box for unstable/powerpc because amiga-fdisk is required but
depends on a library that is not. see:

   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=217848

So is there a way to ask pbuilder to not install amiga-fdisk or another
way around?

Thanks,
Christophe

PS: I am not criticizing the amiga-fdisk presence or not. I simply would
like to be able to autobuild with pbuilder (or similar?).

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Re: OT - worm problem

[christophe barbe]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 12:27:27PM -0800, Johnathon Jamison wrote:
> What is the chance that email addresses in the archives could be 
> modified to say something like
> * From: Zach Archer 
> instead of
> * From: Zach Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> so the email address spiders do not get them?  I think this may help in 
> the future (but will do nothing for the past).

0. Your email address is grabbed by the worm (swen) on a newsgroup
gateway. So the problem is not the archive. And in anycase trying to
protect you address would only bother real people not worm/spammers.

Concerning swen, I use the following procmail rules:

:0
* -2^0
* 1^0 > 14
* 1^0 < 165000
* 1^0 ^subject: (undeliverable|undelivered|returned)? ?(mail|message)(:? 
(returned to (mail|send)er|user unknown))?
* 1^0 ^subject: (new(est)?|latest|last|current)? 
?(net(work)?|microsoft|internet)? ?(critical|security)?
* ?(pack|patch|update|upgrade)
* 1^0 ^subject: (abort|bug|error|failure)?
* ?(advice|announcement|letter|message|notice|report)
{
:0 BD
* b3IAAABBZG1pbgAAAEdFVCBodHRwOi8vd3cyLmZjZS52dXRici5jei9iaW4vY291bnRlci5naWYv
/dev/null
}

:0
* > 14
* < 165000
*^subject: *$
{
:0 BD
* b3IAAABBZG1pbgAAAEdFVCBodHRwOi8vd3cyLmZjZS52dXRici5jei9iaW4vY291bnRlci5naWYv
/dev/null
}

which are simples and very effectives.

Christophe

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Re: gphoto2 segfaults in sid

[christophe barbe]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:31:04PM -0500, christophe barbe wrote:
> Downgrade to libusb-1.4 0.1.7-2 available at:
>  http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libu/libusb/
> 
> I wil fill a bug.

Here is the bug:
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=217725

Christophe

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Re: gphoto2 segfaults in sid

[christophe barbe]

Downgrade to libusb-1.4 0.1.7-2 available at:
 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libu/libusb/

I wil fill a bug.

Christophe

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 07:59:48PM +0100, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote:
> Hi...
> 
> I was happily using a canon ixus 400 for quite some time now. However
> last time ~3 weeks ago. Now that I tried again gphoto2 just segfaults.
> 
> I used to use
> 
> gphoto2 --usbid 0x4a9:0x3075=0x4a9:0x3055 --list-files
> 
> but already that crashes...
> 
> Someone else with that problem ?
> 
> happens on 2.4.23-pre7-ben0 and 2.6.0-test7 with libc6/locales from sid
> and sarge also when libusb is recompiled and then libgphoto2 and gphoto
> and also with {,lib}gphoto 2.1.3 ...
> 
> I am open for ideas...
> Soeren.
> 
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Re: Problems with X on my Titanium PB

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:57PM -0700, Johnathon Jamison wrote:
> Hello Christophe,
> 
> I do not rightly know which version I have, or how to tell.  I do know
> my machine was purchased in Jan 2003, so I would bet it is a IV.  I
> noticed a TiBook IV page at http://spacepants.org/hw/tibook/ that also
> said to install from http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/ .  However, he
> was using sid, not woody, and so it was slightly different
> (xlibmesa3-gl1-dri-trunk instead of xlibmesa3-dri-trunk).  Apple System
> Profiler says my video card name is 'ATI,Xia_A'.  The TiBook IV page
> seems to indicate at the top that the chip set in IV and III are the
> same.  I also fiddled with the Option "UseFBDev" "true" line which the
> IV page talked about, but it did not seem to make a difference.

What gives you 'lspci'?
Mine gives me:

~$ lspci
00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 1.5 AGP
00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW 
[Radeon Mobility 7500]
...

Christophe

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Re: Problems with X on my Titanium PB

[christophe barbe]

Hi Johnathon,

Two importants things about my TiBook page: I own a TiBook3 which is
more than 1 year old now (make sure you have the same model), and I am
still using the config file you got but I am sure it's possible to do
better now.

What kind of TiBook do you have? What video chipset is in it?

Christophe

On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:56:48AM -0700, Johnathon Jamison wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just installed debian on my Titanium yesterday.  I installed woody.  I 
> did a net install, so my packages should be reasonably recent. 
> Initially, X did not work, but I followed the instructions at 
> http://www.cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/#XFREE for X.
> 
> Specifically, I added the line
> deb http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk/ ./
> to /etc/apt/sources.list, and ran the following three commands:
> $ apt-get update
> $ apt-get install x-window-system-core x-window-system
> $ apt-get install drm-trunk-module-src xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk \
> > xlibmesa3-dri-trunk
> I also used the provided XF86Config-4 file, 
> http://www.cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/XF86Config-4 .  At this 
> point, X started functioning.  However, (1) the colors are wrong, (2) 
> the pointers are wrong, and (3) I have lost visual use of text consoles.
> 
> (1) Almost the entire screen is yellowish.  Occasional bits, like some 
> of the KDE toolbar and the pointer, are the right colors.  I saw that 
> this was brought up on this list at the end of August, but I do not 
> understand what I am supposed to do.
> 
> (2) The pointers are wrong.  Imagine taking the bounding box of the 
> pointer, taking the right and left thirds, and swaping them.  That is, 
> if the pointer should display as:
> 123
> 123
> 123
> it displays as:
> 321
> 321
> 321
> The hot spot is always in the top left corner.
> 
> (3) Once X starts, all text consoles are damaged.  When switching to a 
> text console, it is black, except for a gray line about 30-40 pixels up 
> from the bottom.  The line is about 5-10 pixels high, and is about 50% 
> gray at the bottom, fading to black at the top.  The keyboard still 
> works, and I can do things, but I just can not see what I am typing. 
> This phenomenon persists even after X exits.
> 
> Thank you for any assistance you can provide.
> 
> Johnathon Jamison
> 
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Re: status of the mozilla-xft ppc bug?

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 04:19:47PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> >Is somebody looking after this nasty bug? I am afraid that Takuo is not
> >going to spend a lot of time on this one.
> But he definitely should. It's his package after all! If he does not 
> know how to fix it, he can set the "help" tag on the bug and someone 
> will hopefully offer some help. I already volunteered for assisting, but 
> got no response.

You can help without prior ack from the maintainer. I am not sure if the
problem has been identified yet. If not you can help by hunting it.
Otherwise if a patch is available, feel free to NMU mozilla in the
delayed queue.

BTW I don't really appreciate that you forward my mail to the BTS. It
looks like I am criticizing Takuo but I am not. Mozilla is a very large
package with a lot of things to do for the maintainer and I understand
that a bug un-reproducible on his platform (x86) is not his highest
priority.

Right now I am busy with the bugs on my packages. If you want to help,
please do so.

Christophe

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status of the mozilla-xft ppc bug?

[christophe barbe]

Is somebody looking after this nasty bug? I am afraid that Takuo is not
going to spend a lot of time on this one.

Christophe

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(Intelligenti pauca.) 

Re: OT: dirty tibook

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 10:12:46AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >P.S. Never loan your tibook to your wife!(or car)
> >
> 
> Why would I want to loan my tibook to my car?  :-)

Are you kidding? It's an Apple toy. I don't see a good reason to
loan my iPod to my VW Beatle and to refuse to loan it my TiBook.

Christophe 

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Re: OT: dirty tibook

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:11:45PM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 14:39, Markus Frauenfelder wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > Have you ever tried a rubber (like the one you use to erase pencil)? This
> > sometimes worked for me.
> 
> Just wait 'till all the paint chips off, takes the dirt with it :)

Thanks for making my day. Perhaps we should start a kind of club with a
dedicated web gallery of pictures of these scary TiBook (perhaps It
would ashame Apple and they would offer a replacement). I remember
seeing sometimes ago on the web but can't find it anymore.
Clearly I will have a hard-time trying to resell it. If I was courageous
enough, I would disassemble it and get rid of all this paint (the black
below the paint is not so bad).

Christophe 

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Re: Kernel build, auto-off

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:58:27AM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 09:20:55PM -0400, David M. Cooke wrote:
> > Are you also using pbbuttonsd? By default, it replaces pmud in handling
> > power (I thought this was rather high-handed when I found out; why else
> > would I be running pmud?!!). Check /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf (IIRC), and look
> > for a something pmud option. (Don't have my laptop handy so I can't
> > check.)
> replace_pmud= [yes/no]
> I wonder why this is on by default at all, is anybody here using this?
>  -- Guido

See bug  #208209 pbbuttonsd: replace_pmud considered harmful
at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=208209

I got a nice reply from the pbbuttons author but nothing from the package
maintainer.
It seems that pbbuttonsd and pmud could merge in the future. My
understanding is that some features provided by pmud are not yet
provided by pbbuttonsd and that the way you attach a script to an event
is different.
Anyway the real problem is that replace_pmud is set to ON by default 
on systems where pmud is installed and believed to do the job
and that doesn't really make sense.

Christophe

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pbbuttonsd guilty [was: what' up with pmud?]

[christophe barbe]

I found the culprit.
pbbuttonsd was running with the option replace_pmud=yes (in
/etc/pbbuttonsd.conf) and if I understand correctly was doing pmud job
but not correctly. 
I fill a bug report against pbbuttonsd.

Thanks,
Christophe

On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:57:56AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
> I realize that I was not very clear.
> First I should have mentioned the hardware, it's a TiBook3.
> Also I should precise that the laptop successfully goes to sleep and
> wake up in all cases.
> The problem is that pmud does NOT call /etc/power/pwrctl when the
> sleep/wakeup cycle is triggered by closing the lid.
> 
> I am sure of this missing call of /etc/power/pwrctl because:
> 1. Missing log lines in /var/log/daemon.log
> 2. Missing call of /etc/power/pwrctl-local (that how I noticed the
> problem).
> 
> Can a TiBook owner, please, try to verify that problem by comparing the
> log in /etc/power/pwrctl by going to sleep via apm or via closing the
> lid.
> 
> Thanks,
> Christophe

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Re: what' up with pmud? [clarification]

[christophe barbe]

I realize that I was not very clear.
First I should have mentioned the hardware, it's a TiBook3.
Also I should precise that the laptop successfully goes to sleep and
wake up in all cases.
The problem is that pmud does NOT call /etc/power/pwrctl when the
sleep/wakeup cycle is triggered by closing the lid.

I am sure of this missing call of /etc/power/pwrctl because:
1. Missing log lines in /var/log/daemon.log
2. Missing call of /etc/power/pwrctl-local (that how I noticed the
problem).

Can a TiBook owner, please, try to verify that problem by comparing the
log in /etc/power/pwrctl by going to sleep via apm or via closing the
lid.

Thanks,
Christophe


On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 10:50:36PM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
> With the current sid pmud and benh stable kernel, pmud seems to miss
> some event. Looking at /var/log/daemon.log, I can see it working well
> when going to sleep with 'apm -s' (I see the sleep and wakeup events).
> But when I go to sleep by closing the lid, I see nothing at all.
> 
> I believe pmud miss the 'sleep' and 'wakeup' events when the sleep is
> triggered by closing the lid.
> 
> Do you see the same thing happening?
> 
> Christophe
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what' up with pmud?

[christophe barbe]

With the current sid pmud and benh stable kernel, pmud seems to miss
some event. Looking at /var/log/daemon.log, I can see it working well
when going to sleep with 'apm -s' (I see the sleep and wakeup events).
But when I go to sleep by closing the lid, I see nothing at all.

I believe pmud miss the 'sleep' and 'wakeup' events when the sleep is
triggered by closing the lid.

Do you see the same thing happening?

Christophe

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A qui sait comprendre, peu de mots suffisent.
(Intelligenti pauca.) 

Re: Wiping out Mac OS X and Mac OS 9

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 05:14:22PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> Hello !
> 
> Since cloning mode is now working on my iBook (thanks Michel !), I can

Ouch I have to wake up. Is it true for the radeon M7?

Christophe

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Boot from a FireWire HDD

[christophe barbe]

I am thinking about buying a Firewire Hard Drive for backup purpose. One
thing I would really like to be able to do is to boot a copy of my
system on the Firewire HD (as it is easy to achieve under MacOS X).

It is possible under linux?

Also I am interesting by any tips concerning Firewire issues on a TiBook3.

Thanks,
Christophe 

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Re: Airport utility for Linux?

[christophe barbe]

AFAIK there is no perfect solution available for linux.
Concerning the airport I have put some info in the following page:
   http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/airport.html
There you will find patches to be able to scan for available wlan.

Christophe

On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 02:44:12PM -0600, Wes Morgan wrote:
> Is there a utility for Linux that will make Airport behave more like it does 
> in MacOS? I'm thinking specifically of the ability to bring the interface up 
> and down as it sees the WAP appear and disappear. It would also be nice to 
> see SSID's that are in range and things like that too, but the dynamic 
> ifup/down is the most important thing. (Sort of a wireless ifplugd) Thanks.

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Re: Powerbook G4 667

[christophe barbe]

On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 09:25:33PM +0200, Tuxbe wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> What do you think of Apple Powerbook G4 667 ?

I am very happy with it.
see http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/

Christophe

> I'm very interesting to by this, and i would like to know if install debian 
> on it is easy. Can i use TiBook 3 's or ibook's install documentation to 
> install debian on this machine ?
> 
> Thank you for yours answers,
> 
> bye
> 
> Pascal

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Re: 2.4.20-ben2 believe it's ben1

[christophe barbe]

Le mar 01/07/2003 à 08:00, Benjamin Herrenschmidt a écrit :
> Yes,  I could have done a make distclean before posting, sure, but
> that's not a problem. As long as you properly do make oldconfig,
> make dep etc... it should be fine

I am afraid this is not the case. I use make-kpkg which does a make
oldconfig (I don't know for make dep).
Don't get me wrong I don't want to criticize, it's just that I expect
most debian user to use make-kpkg and get the same problem. 

Christophe

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Re: 2.4.20-ben2 believe it's ben1

[christophe barbe]

Le mar 01/07/2003 à 02:21, Benjamin Herrenschmidt a écrit :
> On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 02:46, christophe barbe wrote:
> > Hi ben,
> > 
> > After a today rsync, I compiled 2.4.21-ben2.
> > It compiles fine, boot fines but believe to be ben1 and because of that
> > failed to load module.
> > 
> > /usr/src/linux$ grep -n ben1 ./include/linux/version.h
> > 1:#define UTS_RELEASE "2.4.21-ben1"
> > /usr/src/linux$ grep -n ben2 Makefile
> > 4:EXTRAVERSION = -ben2
> 
> include/linux/version.h is a generated file. Make sure you do
> a clean build.

As far as I can see, the file is in your rsync snapshot:

$ cp -r benh_kernel_20030630/ benh_kernel_test
$ cd benh_kernel_test/
$ rm ./include/linux/version.h
$ rsync -avz rsync.penguinppc.org::linux-2.4-benh /usr/src/benh_kerrnel_test/
$ cat ./include/linux/version.h
#define UTS_RELEASE "2.4.21-ben1"
#define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 132117
#define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))

Christophe

> 
> Ben.

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2.4.20-ben2 believe it's ben1

[christophe barbe]

Hi ben,

After a today rsync, I compiled 2.4.21-ben2.
It compiles fine, boot fines but believe to be ben1 and because of that
failed to load module.

/usr/src/linux$ grep -n ben1 ./include/linux/version.h
1:#define UTS_RELEASE "2.4.21-ben1"
/usr/src/linux$ grep -n ben2 Makefile
4:EXTRAVERSION = -ben2

Thanks for the kernel,
Christophe

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Re: Problems with PHP4 & MySQL Packages

[christophe barbe]

I don't know about the dying process bug. What I see is that var_dump
returns only garbage content. This bug made me discover the print_r php
function that does more that var_dump and my custom displayArray()
function.

Concerning the dying process, I don't see this behavior. I am mostly
uptodate concerning LAMP:

~$ apt-cache policy apache mysql-server php4
apache:
  Installés : 1.3.27.0-1
  Candidat : 1.3.27.0-1
 Table de version :
 *** 1.3.27.0-1 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
mysql-server:
  Installés : 4.0.13-1
  Candidat : 4.0.13-2
 Table de version :
 4.0.13-2 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages
 *** 4.0.13-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
php4:
  Installés : 4:4.2.3-14
  Candidat : 4:4.2.3-14
 Table de version :
 *** 4:4.2.3-14 0
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Christophe

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 12:21:31PM -0700, Eric Pretorious wrote:
> Hello, All:
> 
> To respond to Christophe's report that var_dump() is broken: If you replace 
> the var_dump() line with...
> 
>  // Replace var_dump() with...
> start_session();
> $_SESSION = $row;
> ?>
> 
> ...apache/mysql/php exhibits the same behavior: All of apache's children 
> processes die. i.e., The problem not only seems to be with var_dump() but 
> *also* with...
> 
> A. The array returned by mysql_fetch_array(), or
> B. The process of copying that array into the $_SESSION array.
> 
> (The technique of copying the entire record into the $_SESSION variable has 
> worked in the past on different architectures...)
> 
> Eric P.
> Sunnyvale, CA
> 
> 
> >From: christophe barbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Problems with PHP4 & MySQL Packages
> >Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:32:48 -0400
> >
> >var_dump is broken.
> >print_r is a nice alternative:
> >  http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.print-r.php
> >
> >Christophe
> >
> >On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:53:58PM -0700, Eric Pretorious wrote:
> >> Hello, All:
> >>
> >> I'm stumped: I'm using Debian 3.0 (Woody) on a PowerBook Lombard and 
> >can't
> >> get the PHP package  (php4 4.1.2-6 and php4-mysql 4.1.2-6) and the MySQL
> >> package (mysql-server 3.23.49-8) to play nicely together. This script...
> >>
> >>  >> $connect = mysql_pconnect('localhost','sample_user','sample_passwd');
> >> mysql_select_db('sample_db',$connect);
> >> $sql = 'SELECT * FROM names WHERE userid = ' . $somenumber;
> >> $result = mysql_query($sql, $connect);
> >>
> >> var_dump($row);
> >> ?>
> >>
> >> ...causes apache to die. (i.e., nothing is returned to the browser.)
> >> /var/log/apache/error.log contains "[notice] child pid [#] exit 
> >signal
> >> Segmentation fault (11)" for _every_ active apache child process where
> >> # is the pid for the apache process.
> >>
> >> Why is this happening?
> >>
> >> Eric P.
> >> Sunnyvale, CA
> 
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Re: Problems with PHP4 & MySQL Packages

[christophe barbe]

var_dump is broken.
print_r is a nice alternative:
  http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.print-r.php

Christophe

On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:53:58PM -0700, Eric Pretorious wrote:
> Hello, All:
> 
> I'm stumped: I'm using Debian 3.0 (Woody) on a PowerBook Lombard and can't 
> get the PHP package  (php4 4.1.2-6 and php4-mysql 4.1.2-6) and the MySQL 
> package (mysql-server 3.23.49-8) to play nicely together. This script...
> 
>  $connect = mysql_pconnect('localhost','sample_user','sample_passwd');
> mysql_select_db('sample_db',$connect);
> $sql = 'SELECT * FROM names WHERE userid = ' . $somenumber;
> $result = mysql_query($sql, $connect);
> 
> var_dump($row);
> ?>
> 
> ...causes apache to die. (i.e., nothing is returned to the browser.) 
> /var/log/apache/error.log contains "[notice] child pid [#] exit signal 
> Segmentation fault (11)" for _every_ active apache child process where 
> # is the pid for the apache process.
> 
> Why is this happening?
> 
> Eric P.
> Sunnyvale, CA
> 
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Re: alpha version of knoppix MiB ppc looks for testeurs

[christophe barbe]

On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 11:08:04PM +0200, Yves Combe wrote:
> Missing features (looking at the PC version) and known problems:
...
> *french language as a default

I don't see why it would be a problem ;-)
It seems to me that it's rather a very good feature.

Christophe

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Re: python on powerpc

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 11:45:13PM -0400, David M. Cooke wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 11:03:34AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I was wondering if you shared my impression that most python programs
> > are partially broken on powerpc. The last three programs written in
> > python that I have tried are gdeskcal, straw and eroaster.
> > The first one has significant display problems (the purpose of this program
> > is to display a calendar in the background of the desktop). The second one
> > is unable to fetch new blog entries (again the main purpose of this
> > soft). And the third one, a burner GUI doesn't display the burning
> > progress.
> 
> "Most" != 3. "Most" python programs I use under powerpc, I have no
> problems with. Some fiddling with numbers from apt-cache shows ~70
> packages that depend on python2.2 that aren't python modules.

"Most" != "impression that most"
And comparing 'most' to a number is just plain stupid. As you point out,
~70 packages depend on python2.2 (including dia, gnumeric, ... that are
NOT written in python) and 3 is a significant subset of it.

> Note that the three programs you mention share also python2.2-gtk2 as a
> dependency; I'd look there for GUI problems. The corruption in gdeskcal
> is likely an endian issue (which is not an uncommon problem when
> programs are ported from x86 to ppc).

Interesting. Do you really mean that software written in an interpreted
language need to be ported? Or you just don't know what you are talking
about?

straw network related problem is not caused by python2.2-gtk2, neither
is eroaster (parsing bug). But straw i18n support is broken and this is
certainly related to python2.2-gtk2.

Christophe

> 
> > I have not tested but I guess at least gdeskcal and straw work well on
> > x86.
> 
> Bold statement :) [actually, they do.]
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python on powerpc

[christophe barbe]

Hi,

I was wondering if you shared my impression that most python programs
are partially broken on powerpc. The last three programs written in
python that I have tried are gdeskcal, straw and eroaster.
The first one has significant display problems (the purpose of this program
is to display a calendar in the background of the desktop). The second one
is unable to fetch new blog entries (again the main purpose of this
soft). And the third one, a burner GUI doesn't display the burning
progress.

I have not tested but I guess at least gdeskcal and straw work well on
x86.

Have you got the same impression?

Christophe

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Re: Looking for a new PPC kernel maintainer

[christophe barbe]

On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 03:32:14PM +0200, samuel desseaux wrote:
> hello!
> 
> i'd be interested by the task (i work mostly with mac and debian). Could you 
> give more details please?
> 
> regards
> 
> sam

Looks like you are not a debian developer.
I encourage you to look at the related pages:
   http://www.debian.org/devel/join/
   http://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint

No offense intended. It's just that this kind of package is not suitable
for a first package and IMHO not suitable for sponsored uploads.

Christophe

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Motorola altivec kernel library

[christophe barbe]

I saw this PR (on lwn.net):
   
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-05-2003/0001959749&EDATE=
This seems targeted to embedded platforms but surely would benefit all
kind of platform. Unfortunately it doesn't look Free (as in free
speech). As anyone more info on this?

Thanks,
Christophe

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Re: evolution1.3

[christophe barbe]

I did rebuild for ppc the previous beta (beta2). I found a bug
concerning the file locking tool which needs to be suid but wasn't. I
filled a bug. I don't know if it concerns also pop fetching code (I
believe not). 

Christophe 

On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 12:10:31AM -0400, Jack Howarth wrote:
>Has anyone managed to get a usable build of evolution1.3
> from debian experimental on ppc sid? I ask because while I
> can manage to get it the latest evolution 1.3.92 built it 
> like the previous version seems unable to get mail from
> a pop server that works fine under 1.2.4. I get...
> 
>  camel-pop3-provider-WARNING **: Bad server response:  DELE, LIST, LAST, 
> NOOP, RETR, RSET, STAT, TOP, UIDL or QUIT
> 
> Jack
> 
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gphoto2 on powerpc [was: gphoto2 segfaults on my iBook]

[christophe barbe]

Sorry for the delay before noticing this thread.
I am the maintainer of gphoto2 and also a gphoto project member.

The situation is the following:

. The libusb package currently in sid IS broken.
   see: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=170440

. The problem is not new and was already there with the previous package
but I did a binary upload to fix the problem (I should certainly not
have done so).

. The problem (bug) is triggered by the way the package is build. The
easy fix is to remove the use of the arch-dependant build directory.
That's what do a patch I proposed a long time ago in the BTS (and you
can still find it in the bug entry cited above).

. The correct fix would be to find the bug. I have done some work on
that some times ago but the auto{conf,make,...} stuff make it difficult.
If someone is willing to do some bug hunting, please do so.

I have placed working libusb packages here:
   http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/tmp/

Note that I am not the libusb maintainer where the bug is.

Christophe


On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 10:07:47PM +0200, Kiko Piris wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have an iBook bought 2 weeks ago.
> 
> /proc/cpuinfo says:
> | machine : PowerBook4,3
> | motherboard : PowerBook4,3 MacRISC2 MacRISC Power Macintosh
> | detected as : 257 (iBook 2 rev. 2)
> 
> I'm running Debian sid and my kernel is:
> 
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ cat /proc/version
> | Linux version 2.4.20-ben10 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2.3) #1 mar 
> may 20 18:59:28 CEST 2003
> 
> The only thing I have not been able to make it work is my digital camera
> (Canon Ixus v2) with gphoto2: it segfaults.

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Re: pdf viewer that shows hyperlinks?

[christophe barbe]

On Thu, May 01, 2003 at 06:32:38PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > Do I need to apply another patch before this one?
> > First I have to replace dep_tristate by tristate in the config.in part

Is it normal ?

> > of your patch (No idea if this make sense or not). If I don't do that,
> > xconfig complains about this line.
> > 
> > Then when I try to compile the kernel I get errors. Last I tried to
> > compile the x86 emulation in the kernel (not as a module) and got:
> 
> You probably did everything right, but I think my bk diff left out the
> x86emu.c file. I've attached here, copy to arch/ppc/kernel/ and the
> kernel should link.

Thanks I go further with this file.
I have now compiled it in my kernel and can see it:

cat /proc/execdomains
17-17   X86LINUX[kernel]
0-0 Linux   [kernel]

I can run ls-x86 (even before applying this patch) but still can't run
the wine test:

qemu /usr/local/qemu-i386/wine/bin/wine /usr/local/qemu-i386/wine/c/Program\ 
Files/putty.exe
wine: could not exec wineserver

Any idea?

Christophe

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Re: pdf viewer that shows hyperlinks?

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 08:41:19AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > - Run bash /usr/gnemul/qemu-i386/bin/qemu-conf.sh
> > ..
> > > Note the /usr/gnemul path. Hope this helps.
> > ..
> > > + switch (current->personality) {
> > > + case (PER_X86_LINUX & PER_MASK):
> > > + return "usr/gnemul/x86-linux/";
> > 
> > That looks interesting.
> > Is your /usr/gnemul/qemu-i386 path equivalent to the
> > /usr/local/qemu-i386 we get when following the qemul instructions?
> 
> Yes
> 
> > If yes, what should i put instead of usr/gnemul/x86-linux/ in the kernel
> > patch?
> >"usr/local/qemu-i386/" ?
> 
> That would like right, yep.

Do I need to apply another patch before this one?
First I have to replace dep_tristate by tristate in the config.in part
of your patch (No idea if this make sense or not). If I don't do that,
xconfig complains about this line.

Then when I try to compile the kernel I get errors. Last I tried to
compile the x86 emulation in the kernel (not as a module) and got:

...
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/benh_kernel/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common
-fomit-frame-pointer -I/usr/src/benh_kernel/arch/ppc -fsigned-char
-msoft-float -pipe -ffixed-r2 -Wno-uninitialized -mmultiple -mstring
-nostdinc -iwithprefix include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=btext -mrelocatable-lib
-c -o btext.o btext.c
rm -f kernel.o
ld  -r -o kernel.o entry.o traps.o irq.o idle.o time.o misc.o process.o
signal.o ptrace.o align.o semaphore.o syscalls.o setup.o cputable.o
ppc_htab.o l2cr.o cpu_setup_6xx.o ppc_ksyms.o pci.o pci-dma.o
prom_init.o prom.o open_pic.o indirect_pci.o i8259.o prep_nvram.o
btext.o x86emu.o
ld: cannot open x86emu.o: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [kernel.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/benh_kernel/arch/ppc/kernel'
make[1]: *** [_dir_arch/ppc/kernel] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/benh_kernel'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2

Note that it's a 2.4.20-ben10 compiled with a freshly updated gcc and
using make-kpkg.

Thanks,
Christophe

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Re: pdf viewer that shows hyperlinks?

[christophe barbe]

On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 03:32:18PM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote:
>   The only problems that I have with xpdf are:
> 
>   1 - its anti-aliasing is not as good as acroread's;
>   2 - the user interface is not good also; it should probably
>   use another widget toolkit and a redesign of the window;
>   3 - it doesn't show transitions in pdf files (like those
>   generated by PPower4), which makes it unfeasible for
>   showing presentations -- acroread does fine here.

The first two points should be ok with gpdf which is a port of xpdf to
gnome2. Last time I checked it was on its way to sid.

Christophe

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Re: pdf viewer that shows hyperlinks?

[christophe barbe]

On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 12:42:24PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> - Run bash /usr/gnemul/qemu-i386/bin/qemu-conf.sh
...
> Note the /usr/gnemul path. Hope this helps.
...
> + switch (current->personality) {
> + case (PER_X86_LINUX & PER_MASK):
> + return "usr/gnemul/x86-linux/";

That looks interesting.
Is your /usr/gnemul/qemu-i386 path equivalent to the
/usr/local/qemu-i386 we get when following the qemul instructions?

If yes, what should i put instead of usr/gnemul/x86-linux/ in the kernel
patch?
   "usr/local/qemu-i386/" ?

Thanks,
Christophe

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Re: iBook and different network configurations

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 05:01:30PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> > ifplugd is a software that detect when you plug a cable to your
> > ethernet
> > interface and act accordingly.
> > 
> > whereami and friends, IIRC, are tools that try to identify to which
> > lan
> > you are connected to.
> 
> Hmm, I don't understand the difference between both. Could you
> please tell me?

That's simple, in the first categogy they tried to detect when there is
a link. So when you plug your laptop, ifup ethX is called automatically
and ifdown when you unplug.
In the second category, the link is supposed to be there and they tru to
identify the network (home or work?) by sending arp requests.

Christophe

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Re: iBook and different network configurations

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 09:51:39AM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm sorry if this question also apply to the debian-laptop list.
> 
> There are many network environment configuration tools in Debian
> and I don't know any of them except from "netenv".
> 
> Which one would you advice?
> 
> Thanks in advance.

I guess it depends on whether or not you use wireless or not.

If no, you have plainty of good solution available.

ifplugd is a software that detect when you plug a cable to your ethernet
interface and act accordingly.

whereami and friends, IIRC, are tools that try to identify to which lan
you are connected to.
 
If yes, you also want to connect to wlan, I have not found the perfect solution 
yet. 
I believe everything is there for the perfect solution (see my outdated
page http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/airport.html ).

Recently Soeren Sonnenburg informed me that a soft nearly do what I ma
looking for but I have not yet tested it:
   http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/ifupdown-roaming.html

Christophe

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evolution 1.3 for powerpc

[christophe barbe]

After reading the archive of debian-gtk-gnome, I have discovered that
once again Michel Dänzer is far in advance of all of us. 
This is completely unacceptable, he is quietly sending mails with evo1.3
under powerpc ;-)
I have decided to fight back and have recompiled the Takuo Kitame
experimental package for ppc. 

   *** THESE PACKAGES ARE AS-IS ***

You can find the resulting packages (for SID) there:
   http://ufies.org/~christophe/tmp/

The building process went smoothly except for a Makefile that was unable
to install the evolution1.3 shortcut (.desktop file).
I am using it since (not for this mail) and it seems ok.
A good thing is that both the old and this evolution can be installed
simultaneously. Please read the upgrade notes at:
   http://developer.ximian.com/projects/evolution/release_notes/1.3.1.html

Of course the following evolution 1.4 preview is already out:
   http://developer.ximian.com/projects/evolution/release_notes/1.3.2.html

Christophe

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Re: Petition for a Flash plugin for Linux on PPC

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 06:09:59PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> |Outputing to the screen ?
> |
> 
>   According to the licence:
> 
> 1.
> 
> Definitions
> 
> c Flash File Format (SWF) or SWF means the file format designated by .SWF

Have you already discussed this with the team behind
http://swfdec.sourceforge.net/ ?

I guess you are not concerned by this license if you don't use the
macromedia documentation but reverse-engineer the format (in the
appropriate country).

Anyway for me the conclusion is that flash must be ignored and that I
don't need a plugin for it.

Thanks for the information,
Christophe

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Re: Petition for a Flash plugin for Linux on PPC

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 05:00:04PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> Pursuant to the terms and conditions of this License, you are granted a
> nonexclusive license to use the Specification for the sole purposes of
> developing Products that output SWF.

Outputing to the screen ?

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Re: Petition for a Flash plugin for Linux on PPC

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 02:56:52PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>   Macromedia's licence does not allow people to produce their own flash
> players.  They can only develop software to produce flash files.

Sure? The site http://www.openswf.org/ which seems to be the reference
seems to indicate the contrary. 
Have you a reference?

Christophe

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Re: Petition for a Flash plugin for Linux on PPC

[christophe barbe]

On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 11:19:07PM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote:
>   Perhaps others may not know of a petition for Macromedia to
>   release a flash plugin for Linux on PPC, but still be
>   interested in it.

My understanding is that the Flash file format if documented.
If this is true, this is a very good thing from Macromedia and I would
prefer to encourage people to work on a Free player implementation (see 
apt-cache show swf-player) that would work on all architectures (not
only ppc).
If this is false, I am very happy to miss this part of the web.

Christophe

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Re: powerbook 15" 1Ghz question ...

[christophe barbe]

On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 02:48:54PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote:
> There's definitely no room left in a TiBook for a second battery. You
> can hotswap batteries though.

Do you mean that you can hotswap the battery when the power cord is
plugged in or something else like while in sleep (I heard that some
laptops can keep the ram alive a few seconds without the battery, enough
to hotswap the battery).

Christophe

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Re: sound

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 09:21:34AM +0200, Zeno Davatz wrote:
> Now if I insert a cd and want to play some music I hear nothing.

The CD drive is not connected to the sound chip. So you can't play directly a
CD. You must use a software that read the CD and play the content. There
is one plugin for Xmms, which is called xmms-cdread IIRC.

Christophe

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Re: comparing x86 and powerpc laptops

[christophe barbe]

Le mer 09/04/2003 à 12:21, Geert Uytterhoeven a écrit :
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, christophe barbe wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:57:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> > > > another criteria for me is also: gotta work well with eclipse and other
> > > > java stuff. its possible to compile eclipse by hand to run on debian 
> > > > ppc.
> > > > but it works kinda buggy..
> > > 
> > > apt-get install eclipse?
> > 
> > ~$ apt-cache policy eclipse
> > W: Unable to locate package eclipse
> > 
> > It's not in the powerpc archive as dar as I know.
> 
> Probably not yet. The Debian package was announced on Debian Weekly last 
> week. 
> You can always try apt-source, though.

I am afraid the picture is not as good.
You can check for example:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/eclipse.html

I have not tried it from source but it should be a reason why only linux
x86 package is available from eclipse.org.

Christophe 

> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
> 
>   Geert
> 
> --
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> 
> In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
> when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like 
> that.
>   -- Linus Torvalds
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Re: filemaker db

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 09:42:11AM +0200, Bernhard Mollenhauer wrote:
> Hi list!
> 
> I have two filemaker databases under MacOS 9.2 on my iMac. Now I want to 
> change all Mac-stuff to debian gnu/linux. How can I use these db?s under 
> gnu/linux? Must I learn (my)sql first or is there an easier way?

I am afraid you have to learn SQL. Also if you use Filemaker to generate
a GUI or a web front-end you will have to program the equivalent
yourself.

On the good side, it will perform a lot better, you will no more have to
pay for updated version (= bug fix and new bug) and you will have your
data in an open format (SQL).

Christophe

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Re: comparing x86 and powerpc laptops

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Apr 09, 2003 at 12:57:27PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2003, florian wrote:
> > another criteria for me is also: gotta work well with eclipse and other
> > java stuff. its possible to compile eclipse by hand to run on debian ppc.
> > but it works kinda buggy..
> 
> apt-get install eclipse?

~$ apt-cache policy eclipse
W: Unable to locate package eclipse

It's not in the powerpc archive as dar as I know.

Christophe

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Xfree CloneDisplay and M7

[christophe barbe]

I read a doc to install woody on an ibook (in French)[1]. In this page,
the author seems to indicate that it is possible to drive the CRT output
with some Xfree Radeon driver options. 
In particular It points to a Xfree 4.3 man pages[2] that mentions some
very interesting Clone* option.

As somebody more experiance with these options and XFree 4.3 (I can't
wait to get my alpha-blended cursors).

Christophe

[1] http://david.decotigny.free.fr/libre/ibook2-debian/ibook2-debian.html
[2] http://www.xfree.org/4.3.0/radeon.4.html
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Re: airport monitor mode/ ben8

[christophe barbe]

On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 08:03:19PM +0100, Oliver Ripka wrote:
> got a ibook500/standart airport here.
> I just tried to run kismet, but the ben8 airport module
> seems not to be patched for montior mode. I  remeber
> that older kernels supported that.
> So, am I just doing something wrong or is the support
> simply not included in ben8?
> TIA 

What do you mean by monitor mode ?
Is it related to wlan scanning?

Christophe

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Re: Few Newbie Questions TiBook III - woody

[christophe barbe]

On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 01:35:25PM +0100, Benjamin Swatek wrote:
> Second: how do you guys interchange data with osX?
> well, i know there are the hfs+ utils, but as for now, they only can read, 
> right? (by the way, to where does hpmount a partition, how can I acces it in 
> X?) I might use hfs, but it seems to me that hfs doesn't support long 
> filenames, this sucks, i want long filenames, so what about a apple UFS (or 
> whats it called) partition? mostly i want to use the interchange partition 
> for music, video & text files, so can OS X apps and linux apps acces these 
> files? the apps themself don't have to run on that filesystem...

I use mol to start Mac OS X and then use scp. I don't remember exactly
how but I had to enable ssh login on the Mac side. As far as I know I
have no filename size limitation.

> Third: I didn't find a burning solution so far, I found a page about the 
> superdrive, but it's propably different with my combo ?

It should work nearly out of the box. I guess you have ide-cd loaded
(check the output of lsmod). If this is the case, you must unload it and
load ide-scsi instead (rmmod ide-cd; modprobe ide-scsi). You can then
fire up a cd burning software. 
nautilus-burner (or whatever it's called) is not yet in sid. I not found
the perfect soft but combust and xcdroast are useful.

> Forth: Sleepmode: I'm on the 2.4.20-ben9 kernel, which I managed to compile 
> yesterday following jeffrey matt's advice to do the touch on the not existing 
> vmlinux.coff. Now when i close the lid under X the box goes sleeping, but 
> does a strange bing sound, the white light turns on, but I can't wake it up 
> no more, have to do a reset :-(( by the way, putting the box to sleep seems 
> to unload usb support or something. I do have a logitech mouse conected, and 
> its light turns of when i the book goes sleeping... any hints?

No idea. But I do get a beep (that I would like to get rid of). 
 
> Fifth: the new kernel does some strange things, two times it stopped booting, 
> last line on the bootupscreen(kernel-loading-screen) was:
> pty: 256 Unix 98 ptys configured
> nothing after that, nothing after 5 minutes, so i had to reset.

Never saw that, looks bad. (note that I am still using ben8+sleep).

Christophe

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Re: Debian on a Powerbook 12"

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:08:08PM -0600, Scott C. Linnenbringer wrote:
> Thanks a lot. I preordered a new 17inch PowerBook, and while they certainly 
> aren't completely the same in terms of hardware, I'm sure plenty of this will 
> still be relevant. :)

Lucky you.
That said I don't expect the 17inch to be so close to the 12inch.
My understanding is that the 12inch is more like the iBook2.2 with a
Titanium look and more importantly a G4 processor.
Anyway both are very nice laptops.

Christophe

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Re: airport and wlan scan

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:37:01AM +0100, Mich Lanners wrote:
> Hmm, shouldn't be too hard... let's see
> 
> First, ifconfig up the interface (don't use ifup - you don't want all
> the fancy config...). Then, use iwlist, and get a list of available
> ESSID's to identify nearby networks. Based on some user-defined
> heuristics, chose one of the networks that matches a list of available
> and preconfigured WLAN configs (which then contains stuff like
> encryption keys...). Use that as the backend script to ifup's 'mapping'
> configuration (see man 5 interfaces).

Seems easy enough. I will try that.

> PS That sounds good... I can use something like this :-) I only need to
> find a way to ifup the non-auto eth0 interface when configuring WLAN
> (auto eth1) fails... any ideas?

What I have in mind is a daemon watching wlan and cable and using
whatever is available based on heuristics and user-defined priorities. 
I have to look closer to ifplugd (and friends) that watch interfaces.

Ideally a nice applet (area-notification) could provide info to the user
and let him force the use of a given interface.

Christophe 

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Re: airport and wlan scan

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:57:12AM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> Interesting patch, did you ask the orinoco driver maintainer
> (David Gibson) is he intends to merge that with the driver ?

I will definitively ask him. The patch seems old (2001) but apply
cleanly and seems to work perfectly.

Christophe

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airport and wlan scan

[christophe barbe]

I have tested the  Moustafa Youssef patch to add the scan feature to the
orinoco driver. The patch can be found at:
   http://www.cs.umd.edu/~moustafa/morinoco/morinoco.html

This seems to add the scan feature to the airport driver. I have yet to
find a place with multiple wlan.

The output looks like:

~$ iwlist eth1 scan
Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 14
of Wireless Extension, while this program is using version 15.
Some things may be broken...
 
eth1  Scan completed :
  Cell 01 - Address: 00:30:56:18:72:5A
ESSID:"philly"
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.412GHz
Quality:14/92  Signal level:-80 dBm  Noise level:-95 dBm
Encryption key:off

The warning is related to the fact that the iwconfig tools are more
recent than the API provided by the kernel and is not related to the
patch (and is mostly harmless).

I wonder why this patch is not merged in the main driver.

Also I have no idea how to use iwlist without ifup the interface. I
guess it is possible to start the wireless card, scan the available wlan
and if one is present going forward by calling dhclient, but I have no
idea on how to do that.

Also I have not found an application (or script) that use this feature
to do some smart auto configuration of the network 'à la' Mac OS X.
It doesn't seems like an unreachable goal thought.

Christophe
 
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Re: Laptop and sleep

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 04:11:57PM -0500, christophe barbe wrote:
> I have not exactly the same setup (both wireless for me) but it should
> work too. I will try again tonight. My conclusion (perhaps wrong) was
> that it was not possible to ifdown if a wlan was present but not the one
> configured (I realize it doesn't make a lot of sense).
> 
> Is there a way to see the available wlan when the wireless network is
> up. I would really like a setup that ifup automatically the wireless
> interface when a known wlan is available anf ifdown when no wlan is
> available. 
> I used to use the ifplugd package to so something similar for wire
> network.

Ok. I don't know what I did wrong last time but now it works. The funny
part is that for the last week I have ifdown/ifup eth1 each times
manually.

I did some digging concerning making things smarter starting from
Jean Tourrilhes pages [1].

I believe what I am looking for is a script around 'iwlist eth1 scan'.
Apparently the airport driver doesn't support that.

I have also read [2] concerning the Airport driver that: 
   "The second version of the driver was also done by Benjamin
Herrenschmidt and is just a wrapper on top of the driver of David Gibson
(see section 3), and was integrated in version 0.05 (kernel 2.4.5). This
is a much cleaner solution, because both driver share the same source,
so the feature set is identical and all improvements and bug fixes of
the Orinoco driver are automatically in the Airport driver and
vice-versa."

I found a patch [3] to add the scan feature to the Orinoco driver version 11b 
(which seems to
be the one in 2.4.20ben8). 
Is there a chance that it will add the scan feature to the airport
driver?

Christophe

[1] http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html
[2] 
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.html#Airport
[3] http://www.cs.umd.edu/~moustafa/morinoco/morinoco.html

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Re: Laptop and sleep

[christophe barbe]

Le lun 24/03/2003 à 16:22, Benjamin Herrenschmidt a écrit :

> Using Apple internal airport card ? 

Yes.

> I have no problem with this
> setup. I have eth based networking at work and airport based
> networking at home. I have a couple of shell scripts to switch
> my setup and they work just fine at any moment. I can ifup/down
> etc... both airport and ethernet regardless who was "active" when
> going to sleep etc..

I have not exactly the same setup (both wireless for me) but it should
work too. I will try again tonight. My conclusion (perhaps wrong) was
that it was not possible to ifdown if a wlan was present but not the one
configured (I realize it doesn't make a lot of sense).

Is there a way to see the available wlan when the wireless network is
up. I would really like a setup that ifup automatically the wireless
interface when a known wlan is available anf ifdown when no wlan is
available. 
I used to use the ifplugd package to so something similar for wire
network.

Thanks,
Christophe

> Ben.
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Laptop and sleep

[christophe barbe]

Now that we have suspend/resume on M7-based laptop, I would like to get
some tips on how to make the laptop smart enough to wake up happy.

I am mostly always connected to the internet by the Airport. I use to
close the lid when leaving work and open it at home and vice versa.
The problem is that if I forget to ifdown eth1 before closing the lid, 
after wake up the laptop is confused (when I have moved during the sleep). 
Then I can't even ifdown the interface.

A simple solution would be to ifdown in the power management script when
going to sleep and ifup after wake up. But this doesn't sound right.

Have someone a smart way to handle mobile connectivity? I know a few set
of scripts/daemon but none perfect as what is done by OS X.

Christophe

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Re: Slow DVD playing [Was: New sleep code for ATI M6, M7 and M9]

[christophe barbe]

I have to apologize. I was preparing to test ben8 without the sleep
patch. Before rebooting, I tested the DVD and discovered that your fixed
xine package played it without any problem at full speed (without dropping
frames). 
I am not able to try oggle (it segfaults) so I was certainly confused
this morning about what I tested yesterday.

Thanks,
Christophe

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 10:33:19AM -0500, christophe barbe wrote:
> Le ven 21/03/2003 ? 10:30, Michel D?nzer a ?crit :
> > As Jamie pointed out, someone needs to verify that the sleep patch makes
> > the difference.
> 
> I will try to do that this evening after work.
> 
> Christophe
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Re: Slow DVD playing [Was: New sleep code for ATI M6, M7 and M9]

[christophe barbe]

Le ven 21/03/2003 à 10:30, Michel Dänzer a écrit :
> As Jamie pointed out, someone needs to verify that the sleep patch makes
> the difference.

I will try to do that this evening after work.

Christophe

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Slow DVD playing [Was: New sleep code for ATI M6, M7 and M9]

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 02:41:20PM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote:
> I wouldn't think so. The dynamic power management (which actually makes
> the difference between the fan staying on all the time and not here BTW
> :) might have an impact, but it seems to work perfectly here. Is DMA
> enabled on the DVD drive in both cases?

I see the same phenomena. I thought it would be a xine bug but I see the
same with Oggle. 
I have also made the jump from ben5 to ben8+sleep.

I believe DMA is on on the dvd:

~$ hdparm /dev/hdc
 
/dev/hdc:
 HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  1 (on)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  1 (on)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument

Christophe

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Re: New sleep code for ATI M6, M7 and M9

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 09:18:16PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> fblevel 15 is far too high. Copy /etc/power/pwrctl to
> /etc/power/pwrctl-local, then remove every action in -local (just keep
> the structure of the file) and insert your commands as you
> wish. -local is called with the same arguments than /etc/power/pwrctl,
> at the end of it.

15 is too high? What is the default setting under Mac OS X when not
under battery? Is the energy saving significant when using 12 instead of
15?

> If you just want to do what you say, just grab the event (first
> argument I think) which is either sleep or wakeup (or some others but
> you are not interested in them).

I did that and it works perfectly, I will soon update my page to reflect
the recent significant improvement.

> BTW, with latest DRI (or kernel), you do not need to restore the
> display.

Yes. I am back to 15 without calling back fblevel ;-)

Christophe

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Re: New sleep code for ATI M6, M7 and M9

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 05:15:28PM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote:
> > willow% cat /proc/cpuinfo 
> > cpu : 7455, altivec supported
> > clock   : 667MHz
> 
> BTW, I assume you know how to switch to the full clock?

You are kidding, right?
Do you mean the 667MHz can run at 800MHz safely?

Christophe

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Re: New sleep code for ATI M6, M7 and M9

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 05:03:27PM +0100, Michel D?nzer wrote:
> Putting fblevel 0 in the /etc/power/pwrctl(-local) sleep function seems
> to do the trick, and also seems to hide the garbage on wakeup. :)

Looks interesting. I have no idea which of the pwrctl_* functions to
modify for a TiBook3. Also /etc/power/pwrctl-local doesn't exists. Is
there a simple way to ask for fblevel 0 on suspend and fblevel 15 on
wake up.

Thanks,
Christophe

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Re: Has anyone tried the m6mirror tool?

[christophe barbe]

As mentioned in the mail, Jessy was using a M6-based laptop.

   
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2003/debian-powerpc-200302/msg00103.html

I wonder if the recent patch from Ben improve the situation concerning
the VGA output (and the TV out).

Christophe

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Re: New sleep code for ATI M6, M7 and M9

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 06:49:44PM +0100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> Ladies & Gentlemens  The long awaited new power management
> code coming right from the ATI labs is here ! Finally :)

That's s good. 
After updating to ben8+patch, suspend is working on my TiBook3. The
sound is ok after suspend/resume (oss) and the airport is immediately
back.

~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
cpu : 7455, altivec supported
clock   : 667MHz
revision: 2.1 (pvr 8001 0201)
bogomips: 665.19
machine : PowerBook3,4
motherboard : PowerBook3,4 MacRISC2 MacRISC Power Macintosh
detected as : 73 (PowerBook Titanium III)
pmac flags  : 000b
L2 cache: 256K unified
memory  : 768MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld

Thanks Ben,
Christophe on a very promising week-end ...

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Re: TiBook M7 sleep works!

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 07:54:03PM +0100, Clemens Mangler wrote:
> Hi!
> i have an iBook 2.2 (nov 02) with a M7 and a  DRI xserver and resume
> works!
> when opening the lid the screen looks messed up for a second, but then
> everything is ok!

Yes. Suspend/resume is known to work on M7-based iBook.
Unfortunately it doesn't work on TiBook.

Christophe

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Re: TiBook M7 sleep works!

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 12:04:21PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've got a tibook 667 DVI, the latest X stuff seems to "work" as far as
> sleeping goes.  The trick is, you must disable DRI, which isn't a big
> deal for me right now, I'll give up 3D accel so my machine doesn't crash
> when somebody closes the lid. :)   I know this isn't the final solution,
> but at least it's workable.  Good guys!
> -Brett

What is the 'latest X stuff' ? I have the latest X driver from Michael
Daenzer and the X display after a suspend/resume cycle is a bit strange
especially when I move the mouse. I have DRI disabled.

Christophe 

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Re: iBook in slumberland

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:43:32PM +0100, Martin Kuball wrote:
> Is there hope that the problem will be solved in the future?

I have no idea. IIRC ATI promised to provide some help to Ben but I guess 
they have a good reason to make us wait. The problem is that in my mind
ATI was the most linux-friendly video chip maker. I wonder what I will
buy next time. 

Christophe

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Re: where is the tilde ~ on my TiBook?

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:36:41PM +, Benjamin Swatek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm a newbie to this list, linux and debian, but I'm trying to install 
> debian on my tibook.
> now i found "Debian GNU Linux on a TiBook III" on the web, which seems 
> to be a good help to get debian running, but to work as described 
> there, I need the ~ for a web direction.
> Where is it?

I guess it depend where you bought your laptop. I have a US TiBook3 and
the ~ is just below the ESC small key and need the Shift modifier.

I am not sure to understand why you need this key to start. But if this
is to type the URL of my page that you seems to mention, you can forget
the tilde:

   http://cattlegrid.net/christophe/titanium/

> beside of this i do have other problems, but i want to get X running 
> first, but if anyone can give me more hints about comon problems or 
> web-directions with usefull reading stuff i'd be very happy.
> 
> Cheers
> benjamin
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Re: iBook in slumberland

[christophe barbe]

If your iBook is the one with an ATI M7 chip, the additional energy
consumption is easily explained by the fact that the chip is not powered
down when the laptop is put to sleep. It looks like full sleep (the
screen is powered down) but it is not.

That's better than the TiBook situation with the same chip where the
suspend/resume is not working at all.

Christophe

On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 07:51:57PM +0100, Martin Kuball wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm still no settisfied with the energy consumption of my iBook2.2. This time 
> I measured the energy spend during sleep mode.  When I enter sleep mode from 
> MacOS X the battery will go down by ca 13% in 24 hours. When I enter sleep 
> mode from Linux (snooze) the battery will go down by ca 25& in 24 hours. Hey, 
> that's a factor of 2. Not something easily explained by mearsurement errors. 
> Any hints what I can do?
> 
> Martin
> 
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Re: airport on tibook: surfing vs. ssh/scp

[christophe barbe]

On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 05:37:02PM +0100, Michel Lanners wrote:
> Well, I can explain in a few words what's up with MTU-related problems.
> 
> MTU is the maximum size of a frame you can send out on the network (be
> it Ethernet, wireless, whatever). This is a limit on the physical (or
> rather, MAC)-layer. IP can handle larger packets, but then the IP packet
> needs to be fragmented into multiple (for Ethernet as example) Ethernet
> frames, which is not that efficient. There are other reasons, but in
> general, you try to avoid fragmentation.
> 
> Maximum MTU is almost always 1500 bytes everywhere, even on media other
> than Ethernet (think your ISP's big backbone pipes). The problem arises
> when you put more protocol stacks one above the other, as is the case
> for example for PPPoE: now your Ethernet frame doesn't contain an IP
> packet, but rather contains a PPP frame that contains an IP packet. and
> suddenly, the medium just below IP, which is now PPP, doesn't have
> 1500 bytes MTU anymore, but (1500 - PPP header size).
> 
> If IP continued to send (1500 - Ethernet header) sized packets, they
> would all get fragmented into a big (1500 - Ethernet header - PPP
> header) and a small chunk (PPP header size).this is obviously very
> inefficient: on your PPPoE link, for every IP packet, you get double the
> overhead: two Ethernet headers and two PPP headers instead of just one
> of each if you made your IP packets just a little bit smaller.
> 
> That's the reason to do path MTU discovery, a mechanism for hosts to try
> and determine the largest IP packet they can send _without_ triggering
> fragmentation. Sometimes, this mechanism breaks, and that's what the
> page posted here is about.
> 
> Now, after this (rather long, after all :-) explanation, questions to
> those with this Airport problem: are you using PPPoE (i.e. ADSL or some
> other broadband medium) to connect to the Internet?

Nice explanation. Thanks.

I have a DSL connexion (My provider is dca.net using a verizon line). I
don't know if the DSL modem does PPPoE but at least not on my side. On my
side it is talking plain TCP/IP (even with fix IPs). 
I don't think that the modem is talking PPPoE on the other side but I
have nearly no knowledge of the DSL technilogy.

But my understanding is that WEP Encryption looks like a kind of
encapsulation to me. Again I have no idea on how this is implemented.

Now what I don't understand is why this problem depends on the airport
card. I first thought it was caused by the airport base station but I
see the problem (again only when encryption is on) on another Wlan. I
don't know what kind of base station they use but I doubt it is from
Apple (this is the wlan of an university).

So to summary, If I understand correctly, the problem is that the MTU
path discovery is broken by something between the browser and the web
server.

Open questions:
. Why not everybody with the last firmware see the problem? 
. Why the problem doesn't exist with the same hardware and the same network
when using MacOS.
. Why some browser doesn't have this problem (for example encompass
loads all pages without difficulties)?

Christophe 

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Re: airport on tibook: surfing vs. ssh/scp

[christophe barbe]

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 09:09:35AM -0800, Serge Rey wrote:
> i tried this last night on my tibook. upgraded OS X and the airport
> firmware went from 8.4 to 8.7.
> 
> however, booting back into linux i see the browsing problem with some
> pages not loading still remains. (and the firmware is 8.7 according to
> dmesg).

So if I understand correctly the remaining issue is the one I described.

The best explanation I have found for this problem is related to MSS
clamping [1]. This could explain why not everybody is seeing the
problem. The symptoms are the same but it is difficult to explain why it
occurs only when encryption is turned on. 

[1] http://home.earthlink.net/~jaymzh666/solaris/mss.html

Christophe

> on the other hand, i have noticed that the connection hasn't dropped yet
> unlike what was happening before the upgrade from 8.4 to 8.7. before it
> would drop after about 10 minutes of connection time.

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Re: computer suspends unexpectedly

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 03:07:35PM -0700, Nirmal Govind wrote:
> I just upgraded to testing from woody and there seems to be some
> problem.. my computer (ibook2) just suspends (screen switches off) if
> there is no activity for a couple of minutes.. I haven't setup pmud..
> and I can't get it to come back up without rebooting the machine using
> Ctrl-Command-Rebootbutton... any idea what's going on?

I don't know which version of pbbuttonsd is in testing right now but it
looks like you got the new one. Edit the file /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf.

Christophe

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Re: Strange fn-key behaviour on TiBook III

[christophe barbe]

On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:20:40PM +0100, Raph HP wrote:
> on my TiBook III the fn-key is acting in a strange way. When I got this
> computer a few months ago, I had to use the combination fn-alt-ctrl-FX
> in order to switch from X to console X. But then, I only had to press
> alt-ctrl-FX without the fn-key. It was like that during about 2 months.
> Now, all of a sudden, it is back again, I have to use the fn-key again.
> The weirdest point is that it is the same under OS X. So, my question
> is: is there a way to switch the behaviour of the F1, F2, ... keys on
> the TiBook?

Do you use pbbuttonsd ?
If yes, have you upgraded recently ? 
debian/sid got recently a updated pbbuttonsd.
If you upgraded, perhaps you lost old changes in the
/etc/pbbuttonsd.conf file.

Christophe

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Re: playing region 2 dvd's on ibook?

[christophe barbe]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:07:16PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> It is useless with linux players : they do not ask the drive for the
> key to decrypt the disc. A RPC-1 drive always give unconditionally the
> key to decrypt the disc. A RPC-2 drive does not. Your RPC-2 drive can
> be zoned or not. If it is not, he will refuse to give the key for any
> zoned disc. If it is, he will give it only if the zone match or if the
> disc is not zoned. The zone change is not done automatically, it has
> to be asked by the software. The zone stuff is just to give the key,
> the disc is perfectly readable whatever the drive zone is. The drive
> does not decrypt itself the data on the disc, it is done by the
> software.
> 
> Linux players do not ask for the key (they are not licensed and then
> do not have the keys to speak to the drive about this), they crack it
> every time you want to read your DVD. That is the whole point of
> DeCSS.
> 
> So, do not bother to flash your DVD drive if you are just using Linux.

Thanks for the clarification.

So no reason to flash the drive, we have a lot of very good Free DVD players.

Christophe

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Re: playing region 2 dvd's on ibook?

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:01:35PM -0700, Nirmal Govind wrote:
> thanks for the suggestions folks.. will try it out once the DVDs
> arrive.. wanted to make sure I didn't buy DVDs that won't play.. :-)

I am not sure if it has been made clear that you will not be able to
read DVDs region X if you set your DVD drive to region Y. You can change
this region a limited number of time (5 IIRC).

If you want real freedom to read all DVDs, you need to flash the drive
firmware with a modified one (best solution) or use a tool to erase the 
region change counter to give you your five changes back.

I don't know if such tools are available for your drive. If someone has
some good urls to figure it out, feel free to send them.

Christophe

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Re: airport on tibook: surfing vs. ssh/scp

[christophe barbe]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:03:25AM -0800, Serge Rey wrote:
> > For me turning the encryption off fix the problem.
> i did see your note on this and tried turning off the encryption on both
> the wap and the tibook. the problem is i can't connect the tibook when
> encryption is off, only when it is on. it is strange as i can connect with
> other laptops when encryption is off.

Strange. For me removing the wireless_essid from the /etc/networks/interface is
enough. Do you use /etc/networks/interface ? 

> > Is someone aware of firmware update for the airport card?
> good question.

I should have CC: ben. I hope you don't mind ben if I CC you. Is there
something like firmware update for this kind of hardware? If yes do you
know a way to know the firmware version?

Christophe

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