Re: New fast porterbox for powerpc and ppc64 available
Dear Adrian, On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 6:34 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hi Roger! > > On 5/30/21 1:45 PM, Roger Shimizu wrote: > > Could you kindly add buster-backports schroot to perotto? > > Thanks for your support! > > There is unfortunately currently no support for any release version of Debian > in Debian Ports. I have been wanting to get support for Tier II releases in > Debian Ports for a while now, but for that to happen we would need to get our > own Britney instance. > > Maybe after the Bullseye release. Now I remember and understand ports don't have stable releases. Yes, I also hope ppc64 can soon "graduate" from ports after bullseye. Cheers, -- Roger Shimizu, GMT +9 Tokyo PGP/GPG: 4096R/6C6ACD6417B3ACB1
Re: New fast porterbox for powerpc and ppc64 available
Dear Adrian, On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 1:47 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hi! > > Thanks to a very generous donation by IBM we have now a new porterbox for > powerpc and ppc64 (big-endian) available [1]. > > The machine the porterbox VM is hosted on is pretty fast an also hosts an > additional buildd for both powerpc and ppc64. > > If there are any issues with the machine, please get in contact with me or > James. > > Adrian > > > [1] https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=perotto Could you kindly add buster-backports schroot to perotto? Thanks for your support! Cheers, -- Roger Shimizu, GMT +9 Tokyo PGP/GPG: 4096R/6C6ACD6417B3ACB1
Re: armel/armhf arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concernsj
Dear armel/armhf shakeholders, I talked to a few people about keeping armel in buster, during 1st and 2nd day in debcamp. Seems the blocker is just the buildd server hardware, and memory size it has. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 7:04 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > Quoting Uwe Kleine-König : >> >> If the concerns are mostly about the hardware not being rackable, there >> is a rackable NAS by Netgear: >> >> >> https://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/readynas/RN2120.aspx#tab-techspecs > > This seems to be out of stock and discontinued, unfortunately. This is still available in amazon: - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MQK14KC > Anyway, I'm relatively sure, that I can convince my boss to sponsor/donate > both armel and armhf hardware for Debian, if that is of any help. Or arm64 > used in "32 bits mode". I think DSA team prefers armel or armhf real hardware (not just developing boards). So it'll be super great if you (or your boss) can kindly sponsor some armel/armhf hardwares that support to install 4GB memory. Thanks! Cheers, -- Roger Shimizu, GMT +9 Tokyo PGP/GPG: 4096R/6C6ACD6417B3ACB1
Re: Porter roll call for Debian Stretch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:05:06 +0200 ni...@thykier.net wrote: > Like last release, we are doing a roll call for porters of all release > architectures. If you are an active porter behind one of the [release > architectures] for the entire lifetime of Debian Stretch (est. end of > 2020), please respond with a signed email containing the following > before Friday, the 9th of September: > Hi, I am an active porter for the following architectures and I intend to continue this for the lifetime of the Stretch release (est. end of 2020): For armel, I - submit device-tree patch to upstream (linux kernel), and backport to debian kernel to get more devices supported - support new device for d-i and flash-kernel package - test most packages on this architecture - run Debian stable / testing / unstable system on port that I use regularly - triage arch-specific bugs - fix arch-related bugs - triage d-i bugs - test d-i regularly - fix d-i bugs/issues I am a DM. Altough I enabled -fPIE/-pie for most of my maintaining packages, I'm not sure / I don't have enough knowledge whether it's able to be applied to all packages. Since all other ARM porters seem agree on this, I believe it definitely deserves a try to enable this hardening on stretch. Cheers, - -- Roger Shimizu, GMT +9 Tokyo PGP/GPG: 4096R/6C6ACD6417B3ACB1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXzEFiAAoJEKR4aw2nAzSoAekP/j4eNf0jKvmArPlPbhA7XkBk /5u9Un4qOHBNcSMAU5YVLHkpnT1CX/C08W+/ctGbB9AnnRwyn8X0uailjedZ13jK oZYW/kUSwWiPmOkRTeNgFepzuKL+TNsAGgjHOY4ZbzYKC+h9C0UNWwyA77L3GUep 3HA9eTrtxMAAvJPNN4AhOjMeCI3qXIZ+wLKjhT+u/OUETWly8MolBw8PUjjwW6yy Va7ciRMQf8KL149+Pa/tYFaENoAOV6//3M2QkJyaGbfxJp3xiFFcrlw+kw6J4RyH vNIewz78nZwN88Y7JWa2EdBVcJr0897REXpDPXK/OpzlWw0R0xqB86jtmHfc+rQJ IiNGt5Uc4Y3mD04O6AEDDJFJnEQ/QLi8OR8/TuxHiBJ6JTv0m67KsJVgdFqeRnlz wJqcIQAzTF1iixVXjreVqW6P/+pGNHDbh9APfUz+UV97sZ4tD2BV1K1Rgk7cPDCn zcpVhkQRy5PzLmK315vb8h9juFDDS/18yzmXwGMnmIhv4+8GBJIQLm5gvk9NuEbw V/hBC42+fqX6RzGCoV3M8V+A6aLSpG/BcIAQOx8ewVfzMHIFSJmYParCHKXdiX+z WB8UBt2xCHuzg98jxU80UwR492X9WvKeb6xA8dKqOW22XzsLxaQTe+SLSaGQ7er2 cpuhCpYFDKj/TL6UE2f9 =Vckg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Currently stuck with PowerMac G5, NVIDIA GeForce 6800.
Just following up, my solution was to completely give up on the NVidia card
and purchase a ATI Radeon 9600. After installing firmware-linux-nonfree, it
managed to boot without having to add any kernel parameters, and the
glxgears program even runs. Strange thing is that my Apple CinemaDisplay
that worked with the NVidia card doesn't work with the ATI card, but
thankfully I had success with a more modern monitor.
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Roger Harkavy <rogerhark...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I am trying to get this system to work with Debian. When I run lspci the
> video card is identified as:
>
> VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 Ultra]
> {rev a1}
>
> I currently have a fresh install of Jessie with the MATE desktop. I was
> able to successfully boot to the DE using the nouveau.modeset=0 yaboot
> parameter, but the desktop has abnormal psychedelic colors.
>
> I did some googling and found the page at Power PC Liberation (
> http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.com/2016/02/g5-
> nouveau-3d-acceleration.html) which led me to Peter's post (
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2016/02/msg00025.html) and I
> followed all instructions. Thank you for the kernel, Peter!
>
> However, unfortunately, after rebooting to the "test" yaboot option, I
> don't get a login prompt any more. Instead I get an empty gray screen. Are
> there any next steps that anyone can recommend? I can still boot to the
> abnormally-colored DE using kernel 3.16 using the "Linux" yaboot option.
> Thanks in advance for any guidance you can give me.
>
Re: Unable to log in to iMac G4, graphical login workaround?
Herminio, thank you for pointing me to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Nvidia_cards I noticed this post linked from the FAQ: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203756=12922410#post12922410 Unfortunately, I am having trouble getting the right source files and compiling. I performed this command to get the source files: wget http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/x/xserver-xorg-video-nv/xserver-xorg-video-nv_2.1.20-3_kfreebsd-amd64.deb Unfortunately, after that I cannot find a dsc file that is supposed to be used in compiling the driver. I think I need more specific instructions than the post provides. Can anyone please give me some additional info? Thank you. On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. < herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Another great resource is here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Nvidia_cards > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Roger Harkavy <rogerhark...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Ah, this information is helping! The following options allow me to get to > where what should be the login screen appears, but it is black with a > purple cursor: > > nomodeset > > or > > nouveau.modeset=0 > > From there I can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a command prompt. > > I also tried these commands but neither of them change anything: > > nouveau.noaccel=1 > > or > > nouveau.config=NvMSI=0 > > Maybe I can try them all together? I don't know. I feel like I am getting > closer, though. It is a problem with the Nouveau driver. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. < > herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Check this post out >> http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/2015/05/jessie-meets-bigmac.html >> >> It is deal with G5 but I think the Nvidia issue may apply to you. >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM, <h...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> Dear Roger, >>> >>> What I would try is appending "single" to the "Linux" option at the >>> second stage yaboot prompt. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> On 30/09/15 07:33 PM, Roger Harkavy wrote: >>> >>>> I originally posted this on the Debian user forums but I was directed to >>>> this mailing list. Hopefully I can give you enough information for some >>>> guidance on troubleshooting this. >>>> >>>> I have an iMac G4 "desk lamp," 512k of RAM, 200 GB HD, I believe the >>>> processor is a 7450. I downloaded the Debian Jessie netboot powerpc >>>> "mini.iso" image from here and burned it to a CD: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/ >>>> >>>> Installation seemed to go smoothly, no errors, and I selected MATE as >>>> the >>>> desktop choice during install. The only other option I selected was the >>>> "additional desktop software" (sorry, do not remember the exact text). >>>> >>>> However, after installation, when it boots, one of the last messages you >>>> see is: >>>> >>>> [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. >>>> >>>> Last line is something along the lines of: >>>> >>>> fb: switching to nouveaufb from OFfb NVDA,NVMac >>>> >>>> And then the text starts dissolving, and the entire screen cycles >>>> through >>>> different colors. I presume it is sitting at the graphical login prompt >>>> but >>>> it's not displaying correctly. >>>> >>>> Based on some Google searches, it seems like I should be able to resolve >>>> this by editing /etc/modules using nano from a command prompt but I >>>> can't >>>> get to that point. After the machine starts cycling through the colors, >>>> I >>>> press ctrl-alt-F1 through ctrl-alt-F12. If there is a command prompt >>>> being >>>> offered, I can't see it. >>>> >>>> I also tried different yaboot options I found in searches that were >>>> supposed to avoid using the video driver. Unfortunately these didn't >>>> work >>>> either, but maybe I'm not choosing the right ones. >>>> >>>> How do I get the machine to boot straight to a regular text login >>>> instead >>>> of the X-based one? >>>> >>>> Also, this machine worked fine running Mac OS X this morning (partition >>>> was >>>> deleted during the install process), so I don't think it's the hardware. >>>> >>>> Please let me know what I can do. Thank you in advance for any help you >>>> can >>>> provide. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Re: Unable to log in to iMac G4, graphical login workaround?
I did not see that, thank you! On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. < herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Use the Debian link in the Ubuntu forums thread then on the right side you > see the links you need. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 5, 2015, at 12:58 PM, Roger Harkavy <rogerhark...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Herminio, thank you for pointing me to this: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Nvidia_cards > > I noticed this post linked from the FAQ: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203756=12922410#post12922410 > > Unfortunately, I am having trouble getting the right source files and > compiling. I performed this command to get the source files: > > wget > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/x/xserver-xorg-video-nv/xserver-xorg-video-nv_2.1.20-3_kfreebsd-amd64.deb > > Unfortunately, after that I cannot find a dsc file that is supposed to be > used in compiling the driver. I think I need more specific instructions > than the post provides. Can anyone please give me some additional info? > Thank you. > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. < > herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Another great resource is here >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Nvidia_cards >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Roger Harkavy <rogerhark...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Ah, this information is helping! The following options allow me to get to >> where what should be the login screen appears, but it is black with a >> purple cursor: >> >> nomodeset >> >> or >> >> nouveau.modeset=0 >> >> From there I can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a command prompt. >> >> I also tried these commands but neither of them change anything: >> >> nouveau.noaccel=1 >> >> or >> >> nouveau.config=NvMSI=0 >> >> Maybe I can try them all together? I don't know. I feel like I am getting >> closer, though. It is a problem with the Nouveau driver. >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. < >> herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Check this post out >>> http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/2015/05/jessie-meets-bigmac.html >>> >>> It is deal with G5 but I think the Nvidia issue may apply to you. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM, <h...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Roger, >>>> >>>> What I would try is appending "single" to the "Linux" option at the >>>> second stage yaboot prompt. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30/09/15 07:33 PM, Roger Harkavy wrote: >>>> >>>>> I originally posted this on the Debian user forums but I was directed >>>>> to >>>>> this mailing list. Hopefully I can give you enough information for some >>>>> guidance on troubleshooting this. >>>>> >>>>> I have an iMac G4 "desk lamp," 512k of RAM, 200 GB HD, I believe the >>>>> processor is a 7450. I downloaded the Debian Jessie netboot powerpc >>>>> "mini.iso" image from here and burned it to a CD: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/ >>>>> >>>>> Installation seemed to go smoothly, no errors, and I selected MATE as >>>>> the >>>>> desktop choice during install. The only other option I selected was the >>>>> "additional desktop software" (sorry, do not remember the exact text). >>>>> >>>>> However, after installation, when it boots, one of the last messages >>>>> you >>>>> see is: >>>>> >>>>> [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. >>>>> >>>>> Last line is something along the lines of: >>>>> >>>>> fb: switching to nouveaufb from OFfb NVDA,NVMac >>>>> >>>>> And then the text starts dissolving, and the entire screen cycles >>>>> through >>>>> different colors. I presume it is sitting at the graphical login >>>>> prompt but >>>>> it's not displaying correctly. >>>>> >>>>> Based on some Google searches, it seems like I should be able to >>>>> resolve >>>>> this by editing /etc/modules using nano from a command prompt but I >>>>> can't >>>>> get to that point. After the machine starts cycling through the >>>>> colors, I >>>>> press ctrl-alt-F1 through ctrl-alt-F12. If there is a command prompt >>>>> being >>>>> offered, I can't see it. >>>>> >>>>> I also tried different yaboot options I found in searches that were >>>>> supposed to avoid using the video driver. Unfortunately these didn't >>>>> work >>>>> either, but maybe I'm not choosing the right ones. >>>>> >>>>> How do I get the machine to boot straight to a regular text login >>>>> instead >>>>> of the X-based one? >>>>> >>>>> Also, this machine worked fine running Mac OS X this morning >>>>> (partition was >>>>> deleted during the install process), so I don't think it's the >>>>> hardware. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know what I can do. Thank you in advance for any help >>>>> you can >>>>> provide. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Re: Unable to log in to iMac G4, graphical login workaround?
Okay, again, thank you everyone for the information. Looks like this is definitely the video driver. I am wondering, would I have better results if I tried installing Wheezy or Squeeze instead of Jessie? On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. < herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Another great resource is here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Nvidia_cards > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Roger Harkavy <rogerhark...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Ah, this information is helping! The following options allow me to get to > where what should be the login screen appears, but it is black with a > purple cursor: > > nomodeset > > or > > nouveau.modeset=0 > > From there I can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a command prompt. > > I also tried these commands but neither of them change anything: > > nouveau.noaccel=1 > > or > > nouveau.config=NvMSI=0 > > Maybe I can try them all together? I don't know. I feel like I am getting > closer, though. It is a problem with the Nouveau driver. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. < > herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Check this post out >> http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/2015/05/jessie-meets-bigmac.html >> >> It is deal with G5 but I think the Nvidia issue may apply to you. >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM, <h...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> Dear Roger, >>> >>> What I would try is appending "single" to the "Linux" option at the >>> second stage yaboot prompt. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> On 30/09/15 07:33 PM, Roger Harkavy wrote: >>> >>>> I originally posted this on the Debian user forums but I was directed to >>>> this mailing list. Hopefully I can give you enough information for some >>>> guidance on troubleshooting this. >>>> >>>> I have an iMac G4 "desk lamp," 512k of RAM, 200 GB HD, I believe the >>>> processor is a 7450. I downloaded the Debian Jessie netboot powerpc >>>> "mini.iso" image from here and burned it to a CD: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/ >>>> >>>> Installation seemed to go smoothly, no errors, and I selected MATE as >>>> the >>>> desktop choice during install. The only other option I selected was the >>>> "additional desktop software" (sorry, do not remember the exact text). >>>> >>>> However, after installation, when it boots, one of the last messages you >>>> see is: >>>> >>>> [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. >>>> >>>> Last line is something along the lines of: >>>> >>>> fb: switching to nouveaufb from OFfb NVDA,NVMac >>>> >>>> And then the text starts dissolving, and the entire screen cycles >>>> through >>>> different colors. I presume it is sitting at the graphical login prompt >>>> but >>>> it's not displaying correctly. >>>> >>>> Based on some Google searches, it seems like I should be able to resolve >>>> this by editing /etc/modules using nano from a command prompt but I >>>> can't >>>> get to that point. After the machine starts cycling through the colors, >>>> I >>>> press ctrl-alt-F1 through ctrl-alt-F12. If there is a command prompt >>>> being >>>> offered, I can't see it. >>>> >>>> I also tried different yaboot options I found in searches that were >>>> supposed to avoid using the video driver. Unfortunately these didn't >>>> work >>>> either, but maybe I'm not choosing the right ones. >>>> >>>> How do I get the machine to boot straight to a regular text login >>>> instead >>>> of the X-based one? >>>> >>>> Also, this machine worked fine running Mac OS X this morning (partition >>>> was >>>> deleted during the install process), so I don't think it's the hardware. >>>> >>>> Please let me know what I can do. Thank you in advance for any help you >>>> can >>>> provide. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Re: Unable to log in to iMac G4, graphical login workaround?
Okay, again, thank you everyone for the information. Looks like this is definitely the video driver. I am wondering, would I have better results if I tried installing Wheezy or Squeeze instead of Jessie? On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. < herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Another great resource is here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Nvidia_cards > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Roger Harkavy <rogerhark...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Ah, this information is helping! The following options allow me to get to > where what should be the login screen appears, but it is black with a > purple cursor: > > nomodeset > > or > > nouveau.modeset=0 > > From there I can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a command prompt. > > I also tried these commands but neither of them change anything: > > nouveau.noaccel=1 > > or > > nouveau.config=NvMSI=0 > > Maybe I can try them all together? I don't know. I feel like I am getting > closer, though. It is a problem with the Nouveau driver. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. < > herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Check this post out >> http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/2015/05/jessie-meets-bigmac.html >> >> It is deal with G5 but I think the Nvidia issue may apply to you. >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM, <h...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> Dear Roger, >>> >>> What I would try is appending "single" to the "Linux" option at the >>> second stage yaboot prompt. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> On 30/09/15 07:33 PM, Roger Harkavy wrote: >>> >>>> I originally posted this on the Debian user forums but I was directed to >>>> this mailing list. Hopefully I can give you enough information for some >>>> guidance on troubleshooting this. >>>> >>>> I have an iMac G4 "desk lamp," 512k of RAM, 200 GB HD, I believe the >>>> processor is a 7450. I downloaded the Debian Jessie netboot powerpc >>>> "mini.iso" image from here and burned it to a CD: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/ >>>> >>>> Installation seemed to go smoothly, no errors, and I selected MATE as >>>> the >>>> desktop choice during install. The only other option I selected was the >>>> "additional desktop software" (sorry, do not remember the exact text). >>>> >>>> However, after installation, when it boots, one of the last messages you >>>> see is: >>>> >>>> [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. >>>> >>>> Last line is something along the lines of: >>>> >>>> fb: switching to nouveaufb from OFfb NVDA,NVMac >>>> >>>> And then the text starts dissolving, and the entire screen cycles >>>> through >>>> different colors. I presume it is sitting at the graphical login prompt >>>> but >>>> it's not displaying correctly. >>>> >>>> Based on some Google searches, it seems like I should be able to resolve >>>> this by editing /etc/modules using nano from a command prompt but I >>>> can't >>>> get to that point. After the machine starts cycling through the colors, >>>> I >>>> press ctrl-alt-F1 through ctrl-alt-F12. If there is a command prompt >>>> being >>>> offered, I can't see it. >>>> >>>> I also tried different yaboot options I found in searches that were >>>> supposed to avoid using the video driver. Unfortunately these didn't >>>> work >>>> either, but maybe I'm not choosing the right ones. >>>> >>>> How do I get the machine to boot straight to a regular text login >>>> instead >>>> of the X-based one? >>>> >>>> Also, this machine worked fine running Mac OS X this morning (partition >>>> was >>>> deleted during the install process), so I don't think it's the hardware. >>>> >>>> Please let me know what I can do. Thank you in advance for any help you >>>> can >>>> provide. >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
Re: Unable to log in to iMac G4, graphical login workaround?
Yeah, I think it's getting to that point. I was just very tempted to breathe life into something that was previously useless. ;p On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Christophe De Natale < christophedenat...@orange.fr> wrote: > IMO Stop to loose your time on this machine, this will never work without > nv driver (nouveau is « supposed » to work but it doesn't) > I’ve tried with wheezy but same results … and passed a few hours and many > workaround. > > Cheers, > > Christophe De Natale > > > > Le 1 oct. 2015 à 15:38, Roger Harkavy <rogerhark...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > Okay, again, thank you everyone for the information. Looks like this is > definitely the video driver. > > I am wondering, would I have better results if I tried installing Wheezy > or Squeeze instead of Jessie? > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. < > herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Another great resource is here >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Nvidia_cards >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Roger Harkavy <rogerhark...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Ah, this information is helping! The following options allow me to get to >> where what should be the login screen appears, but it is black with a >> purple cursor: >> >> nomodeset >> >> or >> >> nouveau.modeset=0 >> >> From there I can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a command prompt. >> >> I also tried these commands but neither of them change anything: >> >> nouveau.noaccel=1 >> >> or >> >> nouveau.config=NvMSI=0 >> >> Maybe I can try them all together? I don't know. I feel like I am getting >> closer, though. It is a problem with the Nouveau driver. >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. < >> herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Check this post out >>> http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/2015/05/jessie-meets-bigmac.html >>> >>> It is deal with G5 but I think the Nvidia issue may apply to you. >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM, <h...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Roger, >>>> >>>> What I would try is appending "single" to the "Linux" option at the >>>> second stage yaboot prompt. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30/09/15 07:33 PM, Roger Harkavy wrote: >>>> >>>>> I originally posted this on the Debian user forums but I was directed >>>>> to >>>>> this mailing list. Hopefully I can give you enough information for some >>>>> guidance on troubleshooting this. >>>>> >>>>> I have an iMac G4 "desk lamp," 512k of RAM, 200 GB HD, I believe the >>>>> processor is a 7450. I downloaded the Debian Jessie netboot powerpc >>>>> "mini.iso" image from here and burned it to a CD: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/ >>>>> >>>>> Installation seemed to go smoothly, no errors, and I selected MATE as >>>>> the >>>>> desktop choice during install. The only other option I selected was the >>>>> "additional desktop software" (sorry, do not remember the exact text). >>>>> >>>>> However, after installation, when it boots, one of the last messages >>>>> you >>>>> see is: >>>>> >>>>> [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. >>>>> >>>>> Last line is something along the lines of: >>>>> >>>>> fb: switching to nouveaufb from OFfb NVDA,NVMac >>>>> >>>>> And then the text starts dissolving, and the entire screen cycles >>>>> through >>>>> different colors. I presume it is sitting at the graphical login >>>>> prompt but >>>>> it's not displaying correctly. >>>>> >>>>> Based on some Google searches, it seems like I should be able to >>>>> resolve >>>>> this by editing /etc/modules using nano from a command prompt but I >>>>> can't >>>>> get to that point. After the machine starts cycling through the >>>>> colors, I >>>>> press ctrl-alt-F1 through ctrl-alt-F12. If there is a command prompt >>>>> being >>>>> offered, I can't see it. >>>>> >>>>> I also tried different yaboot options I found in searches that were >>>>> supposed to avoid using the video driver. Unfortunately these didn't >>>>> work >>>>> either, but maybe I'm not choosing the right ones. >>>>> >>>>> How do I get the machine to boot straight to a regular text login >>>>> instead >>>>> of the X-based one? >>>>> >>>>> Also, this machine worked fine running Mac OS X this morning >>>>> (partition was >>>>> deleted during the install process), so I don't think it's the >>>>> hardware. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know what I can do. Thank you in advance for any help >>>>> you can >>>>> provide. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >
Unable to log in to iMac G4, graphical login workaround?
I originally posted this on the Debian user forums but I was directed to this mailing list. Hopefully I can give you enough information for some guidance on troubleshooting this. I have an iMac G4 "desk lamp," 512k of RAM, 200 GB HD, I believe the processor is a 7450. I downloaded the Debian Jessie netboot powerpc "mini.iso" image from here and burned it to a CD: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/ Installation seemed to go smoothly, no errors, and I selected MATE as the desktop choice during install. The only other option I selected was the "additional desktop software" (sorry, do not remember the exact text). However, after installation, when it boots, one of the last messages you see is: [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. Last line is something along the lines of: fb: switching to nouveaufb from OFfb NVDA,NVMac And then the text starts dissolving, and the entire screen cycles through different colors. I presume it is sitting at the graphical login prompt but it's not displaying correctly. Based on some Google searches, it seems like I should be able to resolve this by editing /etc/modules using nano from a command prompt but I can't get to that point. After the machine starts cycling through the colors, I press ctrl-alt-F1 through ctrl-alt-F12. If there is a command prompt being offered, I can't see it. I also tried different yaboot options I found in searches that were supposed to avoid using the video driver. Unfortunately these didn't work either, but maybe I'm not choosing the right ones. How do I get the machine to boot straight to a regular text login instead of the X-based one? Also, this machine worked fine running Mac OS X this morning (partition was deleted during the install process), so I don't think it's the hardware. Please let me know what I can do. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.
Re: Unable to log in to iMac G4, graphical login workaround?
Ah, this information is helping! The following options allow me to get to where what should be the login screen appears, but it is black with a purple cursor: nomodeset or nouveau.modeset=0 >From there I can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and get to a command prompt. I also tried these commands but neither of them change anything: nouveau.noaccel=1 or nouveau.config=NvMSI=0 Maybe I can try them all together? I don't know. I feel like I am getting closer, though. It is a problem with the Nouveau driver. On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. < herminio.hernande...@gmail.com> wrote: > Check this post out > http://powerpcliberation.blogspot.ca/2015/05/jessie-meets-bigmac.html > > It is deal with G5 but I think the Nvidia issue may apply to you. > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 PM, <h...@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Dear Roger, >> >> What I would try is appending "single" to the "Linux" option at the >> second stage yaboot prompt. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> On 30/09/15 07:33 PM, Roger Harkavy wrote: >> >>> I originally posted this on the Debian user forums but I was directed to >>> this mailing list. Hopefully I can give you enough information for some >>> guidance on troubleshooting this. >>> >>> I have an iMac G4 "desk lamp," 512k of RAM, 200 GB HD, I believe the >>> processor is a 7450. I downloaded the Debian Jessie netboot powerpc >>> "mini.iso" image from here and burned it to a CD: >>> >>> >>> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/netboot/ >>> >>> Installation seemed to go smoothly, no errors, and I selected MATE as the >>> desktop choice during install. The only other option I selected was the >>> "additional desktop software" (sorry, do not remember the exact text). >>> >>> However, after installation, when it boots, one of the last messages you >>> see is: >>> >>> [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. >>> >>> Last line is something along the lines of: >>> >>> fb: switching to nouveaufb from OFfb NVDA,NVMac >>> >>> And then the text starts dissolving, and the entire screen cycles through >>> different colors. I presume it is sitting at the graphical login prompt >>> but >>> it's not displaying correctly. >>> >>> Based on some Google searches, it seems like I should be able to resolve >>> this by editing /etc/modules using nano from a command prompt but I can't >>> get to that point. After the machine starts cycling through the colors, I >>> press ctrl-alt-F1 through ctrl-alt-F12. If there is a command prompt >>> being >>> offered, I can't see it. >>> >>> I also tried different yaboot options I found in searches that were >>> supposed to avoid using the video driver. Unfortunately these didn't work >>> either, but maybe I'm not choosing the right ones. >>> >>> How do I get the machine to boot straight to a regular text login instead >>> of the X-based one? >>> >>> Also, this machine worked fine running Mac OS X this morning (partition >>> was >>> deleted during the install process), so I don't think it's the hardware. >>> >>> Please let me know what I can do. Thank you in advance for any help you >>> can >>> provide. >>> >>> >> >
powerpc port maintainers
Hi, When the roll call for port maintainers came up a few months down, I put my name down as a part-time powerpc person. However, I've had to recuse myself for various reasons--I won't be able to commit to doing any powerpc porting or port-related work for jessie. If anyone else can commit to supporting the architecture, that would be much appreciated by all, I'm sure. Many thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140409170317.gj30...@codelibre.net
Re: powerpcspe in Debian
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 06:44:24PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 05:50:09PM +0100, Roland Stigge wrote: Yes, I'm interested. Do I need to setup a buildd? Or is there a buildd running that is supposed to build the current ~50 packages in Needs-Build? What would be the next steps? sbuild/buildd would be a good start. I could look for my old RFS if you want. I used the DM layer with snapshots as a setup with around 10 or 20GiB space. Anyway. The packages listed in Needs-Build are hardly interresting. You need to look at BD-Uninstallable. Look at the list [0]. Most packages are stuck due to debhelper. Look what is wrong, my guess is that you can't install python. For manuall fixing you need a minimal build environment and I used always schroot for that. If you have any sbuild/schroot questions, please do give me a shout if you get stuck. While schroot does support LVM snapshots, you might also want to look at using Btrfs snapshots (faster and more reliable, IME), or an overlay filesystem like aufs. schroot supports both of these for snapshots as well. Example configuration for Btrfs: [sid-amd64-sbuild] aliases=unstable-amd64-sbuild type=btrfs-snapshot description=Debian sid/amd64 autobuilder btrfs-source-subvolume=/srv/chroots-btrfs/sid btrfs-snapshot-directory=/srv/chroots-btrfs/snapshot groups=root,sbuild root-groups=root,sbuild source-groups=root,sbuild source-root-groups=root,sbuild profile=sbuild command-prefix=eatmydata /srv/chroots-btrfs is a Btrfs filesystem, with /srv/chroots-btrfs/sid being a Btrfs subvolume containing the build environment. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121030202003.gh21...@codelibre.net
Re: Bug in gcc for powerpc?
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 09:39:58AM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 08:43:16PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 04:45:35PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Hi gcc and powerpc teams, Supercollider recently failed to build in powerpc[1] with some weird errors about operand out of range. Googling around suggests working around the problem by avoiding inlining. And in fact, SC builds after avoiding inlining one function. However, it seems to me this is a bug in gcc, since it shouldn't ouptut invalid assembler. I'm not quite sure how to handle this sort of bug, however. Where should I file this bug (that is, which package)? This bug seems to have happened a few times already, so I'm not quite sure if this is supposed to be fixed or not. Just as a data point, I've reproduced this identically on current unstable (powerpc). Have you tried using a different compiler version e.g. 4.7? I can do further investigation tomorrow if you would like. I am testing on partch, I don't have access to other ppc hardware. Partch has gcc 4.4 and 4.6, it fails with both, with the same error but in different places (4.4 has lots of errors, 4.6 just 2). I can give you access to a G4 ppc running current testing with build chroots available on it if you would find that useful.e The only thing is that you'll need IPv6 to access it. I don't think it'd be useful. I definitely do not have the expertise to debug gcc. No worries. I just did a repeat build on it, not with sbuild, but in a cloned chroot, and it built successfully. So it looks like whatever it is, it's somewhat intermittent. I would suspect GCC; unlikely to be hardware. I'll try doing a binary-only NMU build with sbuild (á la the buildds), and if that also succeeds, I'll upload it. If I can reproduce the failure, I'll see if I can dump the preprocessed source and make a testcase; but given the elusive nature of the bug this might not be possible. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120731224700.gm25...@codelibre.net
Re: Bug in gcc for powerpc?
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:47:00PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 09:39:58AM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 08:43:16PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 04:45:35PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Hi gcc and powerpc teams, Supercollider recently failed to build in powerpc[1] with some weird errors about operand out of range. Googling around suggests working around the problem by avoiding inlining. And in fact, SC builds after avoiding inlining one function. However, it seems to me this is a bug in gcc, since it shouldn't ouptut invalid assembler. I'm not quite sure how to handle this sort of bug, however. Where should I file this bug (that is, which package)? This bug seems to have happened a few times already, so I'm not quite sure if this is supposed to be fixed or not. Just as a data point, I've reproduced this identically on current unstable (powerpc). Have you tried using a different compiler version e.g. 4.7? I can do further investigation tomorrow if you would like. I am testing on partch, I don't have access to other ppc hardware. Partch has gcc 4.4 and 4.6, it fails with both, with the same error but in different places (4.4 has lots of errors, 4.6 just 2). I can give you access to a G4 ppc running current testing with build chroots available on it if you would find that useful.e The only thing is that you'll need IPv6 to access it. I don't think it'd be useful. I definitely do not have the expertise to debug gcc. I'll try doing a binary-only NMU build with sbuild (á la the buildds), and if that also succeeds, I'll upload it. If I can reproduce the failure, I'll see if I can dump the preprocessed source and make a testcase; but given the elusive nature of the bug this might not be possible. Hmm, I see 1:3.5.3~repack-3 has built successfully over two days ago. Did you find out what the problem was here? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120731225648.gn25...@codelibre.net
Re: Bug in gcc for powerpc?
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 08:43:16PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 04:45:35PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Hi gcc and powerpc teams, Supercollider recently failed to build in powerpc[1] with some weird errors about operand out of range. Googling around suggests working around the problem by avoiding inlining. And in fact, SC builds after avoiding inlining one function. However, it seems to me this is a bug in gcc, since it shouldn't ouptut invalid assembler. I'm not quite sure how to handle this sort of bug, however. Where should I file this bug (that is, which package)? This bug seems to have happened a few times already, so I'm not quite sure if this is supposed to be fixed or not. Just as a data point, I've reproduced this identically on current unstable (powerpc). Have you tried using a different compiler version e.g. 4.7? I can do further investigation tomorrow if you would like. I am testing on partch, I don't have access to other ppc hardware. Partch has gcc 4.4 and 4.6, it fails with both, with the same error but in different places (4.4 has lots of errors, 4.6 just 2). I can give you access to a G4 ppc running current testing with build chroots available on it if you would find that useful. The only thing is that you'll need IPv6 to access it. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120730210921.gg25...@codelibre.net
Re: Bug in gcc for powerpc?
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 04:45:35PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Hi gcc and powerpc teams, Supercollider recently failed to build in powerpc[1] with some weird errors about operand out of range. Googling around suggests working around the problem by avoiding inlining. And in fact, SC builds after avoiding inlining one function. However, it seems to me this is a bug in gcc, since it shouldn't ouptut invalid assembler. I'm not quite sure how to handle this sort of bug, however. Where should I file this bug (that is, which package)? This bug seems to have happened a few times already, so I'm not quite sure if this is supposed to be fixed or not. Just as a data point, I've reproduced this identially on current unstable (powerpc). Have you tried using a different compiler version e.g. 4.7? I can do further investigation tomorrow if you would like. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729000710.ga25...@codelibre.net
Re: Bug in gcc for powerpc?
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 04:45:35PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: Hi gcc and powerpc teams, Supercollider recently failed to build in powerpc[1] with some weird errors about operand out of range. Googling around suggests working around the problem by avoiding inlining. And in fact, SC builds after avoiding inlining one function. However, it seems to me this is a bug in gcc, since it shouldn't ouptut invalid assembler. I'm not quite sure how to handle this sort of bug, however. Where should I file this bug (that is, which package)? This bug seems to have happened a few times already, so I'm not quite sure if this is supposed to be fixed or not. Just as a data point, I've reproduced this identically on current unstable (powerpc). Have you tried using a different compiler version e.g. 4.7? I can do further investigation tomorrow if you would like. -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729003423.gb25...@codelibre.net
Re: powerpc qualification for Wheezy
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:32:17PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 13:19 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: With the sound of the ever approaching freeze ringing loudly in our ears, we're (somewhat belatedly) looking at finalising the list of release architectures for the Wheezy release. Comments on / additions and corrections to the content of http://release.debian.org/wheezy/arch_qualify.html would be appreciated, as would any other information you think is relevant to helping us determine powerpc's status for the release. *gentle prod* I am still a regular powerpc user, and I should have sufficient time to assist with porting issues for the foreseeable future, which I haven't done for the last couple of releases but will now be able to. So feel free to put me down as a powerpc porter, I'll continue to follow powerpc issues on debian-powerpc and be happy to undertake specific porting and debugging as and when required. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120523184232.ga22...@codelibre.net
Re: Sysvinit error on apt-get update
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:04:34PM +0100, pe...@kahn.nu wrote: Hi and thanks for all your hard work. I have just tried updating my debian hurd install and dpkg fails with the following error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sysvinit_2.88dsf-16_hurd-i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/sbin/halt', which is also in package hurd 20111206-1 configured to not write apport reports Processing triggers for man-db ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/sysvinit_2.88dsf-16_hurd-i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) (I'm sorry if this text contains typos, i have only got one screen and wrote the text while watching it on my hurd computer.) Does anyone have any idea on how to get past this? It's likely a bug in one of sysvinit or hurd packages, since both can't provide the same file. Did the older sysvinit package provide /sbin/halt? If looks like they did not according to debian/rules. While the packaging was updated in -16, this logic is still present. But it's obviously not working. It would be good if a Hurd porter could perhaps see why--I can't see anything obviously wrong.. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111219225854.gc5...@codelibre.net
webcam works in ubuntu natty (pc) but not in debian-ppc squeeze (mac mini g4)
Hi all, I posted on this subject about a month ago but got no replies. http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2011/04/msg00058.html I want to set up a mac mini g4 as a video capture server, but there seems to be a problem with gspca in debian-ppc. I noticed that debian is using an older driver version as compared to ubuntu (2.7 vs. 2.9). Maybe I need a newer driver? Is the later version available for debian-ppc? If so, where could I find it? Add unstable package sources and specify a later version of (what)? $ aptitude search ~dgspca returns nothing. Can someone tell me how to get this? A diff of dmesg output shows the following for the two machines. foo@bar:~/temp/webcam$ diff -u deb-dmesg.txt ubu-dmesg.txt --- deb-dmesg.txt2011-05-13 17:02:36.049179388 -0700 +++ ubu-dmesg.txt2011-05-13 17:03:19.229393494 -0700 @@ -1,17 +1,18 @@ -usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 -usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=4802 -usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 -usb 1-2: Product: Lenovo USB Webcam -usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Primax -usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice +usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10 Linux video capture interface: v2.00 -gspca: main v2.7.0 registered +gspca: main v2.9.0 registered gspca: probing 17ef:4802 -vc032x: check sensor header 20 +vc032x: vc0323 check sensor header 20 vc032x: Sensor ID 143a (3) +vc032x: Sensor ID 143a (4) +vc032x: Sensor ID 143a (5) +vc032x: Sensor ID 143a (6) +vc032x: Sensor ID 143a (7) +vc032x: Sensor ID 143a (8) +vc032x: Sensor ID 143a (9) vc032x: Find Sensor MI1310_SOC -gspca: probe ok +gspca: video0 created gspca: probing 17ef:4802 gspca: probing 17ef:4802 usbcore: registered new interface driver vc032x Regards, Roger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/553713.52737...@web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com
/dev/video0 not created
Hello, I installed debian-ppc on Mac Mini G4 and attached a USB webcam. Linux 2.6.32-5-powerpc #1 Mon Mar 7 22:49:07 UTC 2011 ppc GNU/Linux lsusb shows the webcam, and lsmod shows the driver, but no /dev/video0 is created. The server is headless, so I only have remote shell access to this machine. When I attach the webcam to an i386 laptop running Ubuntu 10.10, the webcam just works, with nominally same driver (Linux 2.6.35-28-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 14:40:58 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux). What do I need to do to get this working? Is there a fundamental reason why this might work on i386 and not on PPC? Is there a better list to ask this question? I think I am subscribed to this list, although I never got a confirmation. I will not be offended if you copy me on any replies. Thanks, Roger /var/log/messages on ppc [ 919.999867] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 [ 920.293706] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=4802 [ 920.297780] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 [ 920.301807] usb 1-2: Product: Lenovo USB Webcam [ 920.305811] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Primax [ 920.311423] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 920.694524] Linux video capture interface: v2.00 [ 920.727580] gspca: main v2.7.0 registered [ 920.744576] gspca: probing 17ef:4802 [ 920.749355] vc032x: check sensor header 20 [ 920.813020] vc032x: Sensor ID 143a (3) [ 920.816999] vc032x: Find Sensor MI1310_SOC [ 920.822278] gspca: probe ok [ 920.827063] gspca: probing 17ef:4802 [ 920.831381] gspca: probing 17ef:4802 [ 920.837623] usbcore: registered new interface driver vc032x [ 920.845906] vc032x: registered [ 920.943284] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/61903.81246...@web44803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com
Re: A short tutorial on running GRUB2 on a PPC
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 11:52:58AM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote: [Please don't top post.] I am being thoughtful. You do think my approach was wrong? At least I explained myself and let him know what would mess up. You did not think of concentrating on helping him but on correcting me instead? He asked for help and feedback and you gave him none. Feedback is only useful when it's helpful and constructive. You are being rude, aggressive and unhelpful. If you wish to continue to participate on Debian lists, as I have already conveyed to you in private, you will kindly fix your bad attitude and stop abusing people's hard work and contributions, or I will have to ask the listmasters to ban you from posting here. Please bear that in mind before you repeat the mistakes you have already made. Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Squeeze installer missing cdc_ether
Hi, I'm new to debian and trying to install squeeze onto a powerbook G4. I've tried the official and unofficial installers and have the same problem with both. My cable modem uses a USB connection, and while the USB device is recognized in the dmesg output the cdc_ether kernel module isn't present. I see the cdc_ether module is present in the regular kernel, but not on the installer disk. How do I obtain such a module? Searching the package database I can't find the nic-usb-modules udeb for powerpc. Would it work to copy cdc_ether.ko from the regular kernel image onto a USB stick and load it on the fly while the installer runs? Thanks -roger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/44891.24904...@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com
Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know about issues with these changes on some of the Debian ports, and if we need to disable one of these changes on some port. --no-add-needed sounds like it'll cause a *lot* of build failures for no particular gain. I don't think it's a good idea. I think it is. Besides fixing potential bugs, else you'll never be able to use gold as the linker. See the already filed bug reports. This change is one I can agree with on technical grounds, though it will cause a great deal of pain in the short term. Have we got any estimates on exactly how much breakage will result before the change gets made? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 07:04:53PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 16.11.2010 10:42, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know about issues with these changes on some of the Debian ports, and if we need to disable one of these changes on some port. --no-add-needed sounds like it'll cause a *lot* of build failures for no particular gain. I don't think it's a good idea. I think it is. Besides fixing potential bugs, else you'll never be able to use gold as the linker. See the already filed bug reports. This change is one I can agree with on technical grounds, though it will cause a great deal of pain in the short term. Have we got any estimates on exactly how much breakage will result before the change gets made? see http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking#Furtherinformation referenced in the first email of this thread. I had a look at that, and we've got (summarised) 413 outstanding bugs 308 fixed/pending So there's still some way to go, but looking promising. I did notice that all those bugs were filed almost exactly a year ago. This won't have picked up issues with current packages, such as the Boost link failures I've encountered. Would it be possible to repeat the archive-wide rebuild with our current sources? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote: While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the use of --as-needed *at all*. If a library has been explicitly linked in, it shouldn't be removed. This is an issue for fixing in individual packages, not in the toolchain. I can understand on using it on a per-package basis, but not in the actual toolchain defaults. The compiler and linker *should not be second-guessing the user*. This can break perfectly legitimate code making use of ELF constructors and other features which won't be picked out just by looking at symbol usage. People have been claiming that constructors or init section are a possible problem. I have yet to see an example where it breaks. It's not a very widely used feature. I'm sure it's trivial to make such a test case. Portable software tends not to make use of ELF- specific features like this, but that's not an excuse for breaking perfectly legitimate code. But whether or not there are real life examples, --as-needed is *fundamentally wrong*. It's deliberately *not doing what the user requested*, and to make that misfeature the system-wide default would be entirely inappropriate. If a package wishes to make use of such a feature after understanding the implications, then they are free to do so. But to make it the default--I don't think that's a technically sound decision. maybe, and fix it in N - ~100 packages? Or fix the ~100 packages? The point of injection is for discussion. I would prefer having this set in dpkg-buildflags, and then disabled by these ~100 packages. Note that this is probably the same like modifying the N - ~100 packages, as almost no package respects dpkg-buildflags yet. What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve? The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked in as a result of using pkg-config (and various other -config variants), though there are other, lesser, culprits. The pkg-config .pc files for gtk, gnome and other libraries add in many libraries, most of which aren't typically needed. The solution: fix the .pc files! Using --as-needed is merely papering over the actual root problem. It fixes the symptoms, but it's not addressing the actual cause. The number of packages providing broken .pc files is not large, and the number breaking due to relying on this brokenness is likely just as small. Other libraries being linked unnecessarily can be removed on a per-package basis. lintian is warning about this, so most developers should be aware of the problem. Damaging our toolchain to work around buggy build scripts is wrong; we should just fix the scripts! Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:51:49PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:19:10PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know about issues with these changes on some of the Debian ports, and if we need to disable one of these changes on some port. While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the use of --as-needed *at all*. If a library has been explicitly linked in, it shouldn't be removed. This is an issue for fixing in individual packages, not in the toolchain. I can understand on using it on a per-package basis, but not in the actual toolchain defaults. The compiler and linker *should not be second-guessing the user*. This can break perfectly legitimate code making use of ELF constructors and other features which won't be picked out just by looking at symbol usage. People have been claiming that constructors or init section are a possible problem. I have yet to see an example where it breaks. It's not a very widely used feature. I'm sure it's trivial to make such a test case. Portable software tends not to make use of ELF- specific features like this, but that's not an excuse for breaking perfectly legitimate code. But whether or not there are real life examples, --as-needed is *fundamentally wrong*. It's deliberately *not doing what the user requested*, and to make that misfeature the system-wide default would be entirely inappropriate. If a package wishes to make use of such a feature after understanding the implications, then they are free to do so. But to make it the default--I don't think that's a technically sound decision. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:19:08PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know about issues with these changes on some of the Debian ports, and if we need to disable one of these changes on some port. --no-add-needed sounds like it'll cause a *lot* of build failures for no particular gain. I don't think it's a good idea. This change will definitely cause a lot of link failures; having some concrete numbers to determine how many would be quite useful here, e.g. from an archive-wide rebuild. Example failure case: #593876 libboost-filesystem-dev: Undeclared indirect dependency of boost_filesystem on boost_system causes link failure While --no-copy-dt-needed-entries does fix programs depending upon indirect linkage, this is something we've been relying on for over a decade and has worked quite well in practice. While strict correctness is nice to have, and I've already fixed my programs to work with strict linking, I'm not entirely sure why indirect linking is that bad in practice. Note that in the above Boost example, you get caught out just due to some inline functions in headers resulting an a completely unexpected additional dependency, so the need for linking is there, but would have otherwise been happily satisfied indirectly. Also, it means that the user of a library needs to be intimately aware of its internals which is not good. If the Boost filesystem library changes how it works but without changing its public interface, I could be screwed again in six months time. This is partly the fault of Boost for exposing its internals in its headers, but disallowing indirect linking make it worse. Overall, it could be for the best, but it will be painful initially. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know about issues with these changes on some of the Debian ports, and if we need to disable one of these changes on some port. While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the use of --as-needed *at all*. If a library has been explicitly linked in, it shouldn't be removed. This is an issue for fixing in individual packages, not in the toolchain. I can understand on using it on a per-package basis, but not in the actual toolchain defaults. The compiler and linker *should not be second-guessing the user*. This can break perfectly legitimate code making use of ELF constructors and other features which won't be picked out just by looking at symbol usage. Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Current debian-installer broken for Sun GEM ethernet on powerpc?
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 04:53:19PM -0400, Norberto Feliberty wrote: On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 20:28 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Hi folks, Just wondering if anyone else had hit on issues with the current debian-installer on powerpc. On my Mac Mini, it fails to bring up the ethernet interface due to not finding the ethernet adapter. Strange, since it's always worked to date! I reported this as #578927 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=578927 but maybe it's a kernel issue? Wow strange. I encountered this problem some months ago with the installer not being able to configure and set up the ethernet card on my playstation 3 which is a powerpc based machine. This was fixed for squeeze alpha 1. Is it broken again? Just tested with the d-i daily netinst image, and it's OK now. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Current debian-installer broken for Sun GEM ethernet on powerpc?
Hi folks, Just wondering if anyone else had hit on issues with the current debian-installer on powerpc. On my Mac Mini, it fails to bring up the ethernet interface due to not finding the ethernet adapter. Strange, since it's always worked to date! I reported this as #578927 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=578927 but maybe it's a kernel issue? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Does someone use grub?
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:08:59PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: Hi, does someone of you use grub on PowerPC? I thought about replacing yaboot by grub, but a deeper look showed I have to do stuff by hand, i.e. it misses a default configuration. Is it worth to do it? Is grub better than yaboot? Can grub boot OS X and from CD, i.e. that what enablecdboot in yaboot offers? I found this page containing some informations in the net: http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnPowerPC I tried grub2 out about a year or so ago. It had no way to boot OS X, and it failed to boot Linux as well (just froze up, I can't remember the details). This was on a G4 Mac Mini. Things may well have improved for the better since then--I just went back to yaboot since I was more interested in having a working system than playing with bootloaders. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Will using kernel 2.6.24 make my laptop faster?
On Jan 31, 2008 10:59 AM, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 22:43 -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: Actually one more thing, any benefits to doing this? Besides the geek satisfaction that all of us get from compiling a new kernel. I think self-compiling kernels is generally overrated. I'd suggest trying pre-packaged kernels from sid first. I suggest you to have a look at: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel and use the already compiled kernels from: Latest from /dists/trunk (targeted for experimental/sid) deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main with your preferred debian package admin tools. -- roger
Re: No port maintainers?
Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michel Dänzer wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 11:04 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Please add yourself to [0] if you're actively working on powerpc issues. While I do work on powerpc issues as I encounter them and as time permits, I can't take any kind of leading role at this time, and I'd prefer the people who are 'running the show' these days (but unfortunately invisible on this list) to go first. Just put your name on spot 5 I would say :-) Feel free to put me on the list as well. Around #5 is about my situation at this time also. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpVXPqklo1yy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Request assistance with monotone package on alpha, hppa, mipsel, powerpc, s390
Zack Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm one of the maintainers of the Debian package of monotone; I'm also one of its upstream developers. For the new 0.36-1 package presently in unstable, we decided to run the program's testsuite during the build. This found failures on many architectures - a mixed blessing, since on the one hand it appears that the program has catastrophic bugs that need fixing, but on the other hand, now the package has been kicked out of testing. :-( If you would like an access to a powerpc system, with all the monotone build-deps etc. installed, please mail me your SSH public key in a signed and encrypted mail, and I'll create you an account. Note it will only be accessible via IPv6, so you'll need IPv6 networking. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpkGidafBtx9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
For others' information, Sven has sent me a long description of what happened from his side, and he wants it to be available to anyone. He suggested I forward it to the list, but I think it might be OK if I just forward it by private email to anyone who asks me. I'm happy to do this. Yes, I wan a copy of this e-mail. Could you please FW it: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Cheers, Mike. Best regards -- roger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Sven Ban] Is Sven still under ban on the debian-powerpc list ?
xavier grave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to know if Sven Luther is still banned from debian-powerpc list ? Yes. The ban has been reinstated by the listmasters, for obvious reasons. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpO3hg5Ymdbu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS is not set on PowerPC
Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2007-08-27 11:54:44 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any one knows why official PowerPC kernels are configured with CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS unset? This makes programs using some pty's fail to work. See bug 430632 for instance. It might help if you asked the kernel team. :) CC added. I think we call these packages badly broken. System V PTYs have been the standard for too many years to care about a few broken packages. OK. But CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS was defined in official Debian x86 kernels, so that most maintainers probably could not see the problems, and it could take months/years to get them fixed. But it seems that CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS is no longer defined in 2.6.22 for x86 either (it was defined in 2.6.18 for x86). Great! Removing it on all arches does seem to be the way to go, given that we have been using modern PTYs for quite a long time now. It will act as an incentive to get obsolete packages removed or fixed. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpKGyjb0XkMj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Help a newbie
On 7/8/07, Paolo Perani wrote: Hi guys, I really have a newbie question for you. I am installing Debian on my Powerbook G3 and I cannot find the drivers.tgz and rescue.bin files for my distribution etch/ppc. Were the hell are?. I am searching in the installation CDs but I cannot download 20 isos! The two or three first CDs should be enough (actually with the first one would be ok) to have a almost complete system. Afterwards you can use the networking facilities to complete it and to update it. The first cd can also be used as a rescue cd. thanks Bibinix -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to -- roger -- roger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not dri capable on PowerBook G4 12
Andrew, Some day, this will all change. Follow the progress of the intrepid Nouveau crew at this address: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ Does this mean that some day we will have dualhead for the PB 12'' 1.33? Georg, I attach my xorg.conf file (dri disabled) which works ok . To use the dvi output I have to edit the file and swift the # symbol of the ServerLayout section-. not a very nice solution indeed. I hope this helps. # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type man /etc/X11/xorg.conf at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section Files FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi EndSection Section Module Loadi2c Loadbitmap Loadddc #Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection Section InputDevice IdentifierGeneric Keyboard Driverkbd OptionCoreKeyboard OptionXkbRulesxorg OptionXkbModelpc105 OptionXkbLayoutes OptionXkbOptionslv3:lwin_switch EndSection Section InputDevice IdentifierConfigured Mouse Drivermouse OptionCorePointer OptionDevice/dev/input/mice OptionProtocolImPS/2 OptionEmulate3Buttonstrue EndSection ## No permet clonatge: default XOR sortida externa ## configuració del kernel ## Device Drivers --- ## Graphics support --- ## * nVidia Framebuffer Support ##[*] Enable DDC Support ##[*] Support for backlight control Section Device IdentifiernVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200] Drivernv BusIDPCI:0:16:0 OptionUseFBDevfalse #Option UseFBDev true #Option CrtcNumber 1 #Option FlatPanel 1 EndSection Section Device IdentifierSortida Externa nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200] Drivernv BusIDPCI:0:16:0 OptionUseFBDevfalse #Option UseFBDev true Option CrtcNumber 0 Option FlatPanel 0 EndSection Section Monitor IdentifierCOLOR LCD OptionDPMS HorizSync28-51 VertRefresh43-60 EndSection Section Screen IdentifierDefault Screen DevicenVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200] MonitorCOLOR LCD DefaultDepth16 SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen IdentifierSortida Externa Screen DeviceSortida Externa nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200] MonitorCOLOR LCD DefaultDepth16 SubSection Display Depth 16 ## Per rotar: alt+ctrl+fn+- Modes 1024x768 800x600 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout IdentifierDefault Layout ## NOMÉS UNA (mai les dues) ScreenDefault Screen #ScreenSortida Externa Screen InputDeviceGeneric Keyboard InputDeviceConfigured Mouse # InputDeviceSynaptics Touchpad EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection
Re: Framebuffer bug with linux-image-2.6.21-1-powerpc
Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi folks, Has anyone else noticed that using radeonfb results in the display (an Apple Cinema Display in this case) being turned off (put into standby) as soon as the kernel switches to the framebuffer. I see the penguin logo and some text briefly for less than a second, and then it all goes black. image=/boot/vmlinux-2.6.20-1-powerpc label=test initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-1-powerpc append=video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] read-only System: Mac Mini with an Apple Cinema Display connected via DVI. This bug also affects linux-image-2.6.21-1 . Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgp7iLIyhCH8e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Framebuffer bug with linux-image-2.6.20-1-powerpc
Hi folks, Has anyone else noticed that using radeonfb results in the display (an Apple Cinema Display in this case) being turned off (put into standby) as soon as the kernel switches to the framebuffer. I see the penguin logo and some text briefly for less than a second, and then it all goes black. image=/boot/vmlinux-2.6.20-1-powerpc label=test initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-1-powerpc append=video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] read-only System: Mac Mini with an Apple Cinema Display connected via DVI. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpXObo67IILG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macmini G4 sound trouble
David Conversi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sound worked perfectly on my macmini up to kernel 2.6.17 (ubuntu edgy). Now that ubuntu dropped the support for ppc, i installed debian etch RC2 but with the stock 2.6.18 kernel sound does not work anymore. It's working perfectly for me, including volume adjustment and speaker/headphone autodetection. I'm using stock unstable, with these modules loaded automatically (I didn't configure it specially): % lsmod | egrep 'snd|sound' snd_powermac 48188 0 snd_aoa_codec_toonie 3492 2 snd_aoa_fabric_layout14056 5 snd_aoa20864 2 snd_aoa_codec_toonie,snd_aoa_fabric_layout snd_aoa_i2sbus 24228 1 snd_pcm_oss52032 0 snd_pcm91396 4 snd_powermac,snd_aoa_i2sbus,snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 11304 1 snd_pcm snd_mixer_oss 20704 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_oss40084 0 snd_seq_midi9792 0 snd_rawmidi28992 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 8160 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq60456 5 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 26500 3 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 9708 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd65908 21 snd_powermac,snd_aoa_codec_toonie,snd_aoa_fabric_layout,snd_aoa,snd_aoa_i2sbus,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 11204 1 snd snd_aoa_soundbus8004 2 snd_aoa_fabric_layout,snd_aoa_i2sbus Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgp69oMgcucLR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Who is actively porting the Debian architectures?
Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 11:20:50AM +0100, Holger Levsen a écrit : http://wiki.debian.org/powerpcEtchReleaseRecertification lists the following people for powerpc (Bastian is missing there): Roger Leigh Alexander Wirt Sven Luther Michel Daenzer Colin Watson Mark Brown Holger Levsen Given the rumors powerpc would be dead, I suggest to name them all :) Hi all, I would like to recommend that only persons who do volunteer to be reactive would be listed here. Over the past two years, I've been happy to do porting work and package building and testing for people who don't have a powerpc system. However, I'm not intimately involved in GCC/binutils/kernel stuff, so I'm not sure I count as a porter in that respect. From a simple packaging-for-powerpc perspective, I will continue to do all my development on powerpc. I don't think anyone in the list is active in running buildds. Unfortunately, I'm not likely to have much time for Debian over the coming 9 months as I study for a Masters degree, so I'm (temporarily) limited in how responsive I can be. I've been pretty busy over the last 3 months, and I don't see it improving much. If responsiveness is an issue, I might be best left off the official list for the time being! That said, I'll still continue to look into powerpc problems I come across. Merry Christmas! Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpH51vM8rDDE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CPU frequency scaling on G4 systems
Mich Lanners [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, On 25 Sep, this message from Roger Leigh echoed through cyberspace: However, loading any or all of these modules does not enable frequency scaling. You don't get anything under, e.g. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ or under /proc. What else is needed to get CPU frequency scaling to work? On other platforms, there are additional modules under kernel/arch/arch, but this is not the case for powerpc. The system in question is a Mac Mini (7447A). As far as I know, and from my own experience, the Mini doesn't do frequency scaling. Thanks for all the helpful replies, everyone. In addition to CPU frequency scaling, which packages are recommended for power management in general? There are quite a few, but some are only for laptops. Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpo63b0OTXX3.pgp Description: PGP signature
CPU frequency scaling on G4 systems
Hi folks, With current 2.6.17 and 2.8.16 Debian kernels, the following cpufreq modules are available: $ find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'cpufreq*' /lib/modules/2.6.18-1-powerpc/kernel/drivers/cpufreq /lib/modules/2.6.18-1-powerpc/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_stats.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1-powerpc/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_userspace.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1-powerpc/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_ondemand.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1-powerpc/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_conservative.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1-powerpc/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_powersave.ko However, loading any or all of these modules does not enable frequency scaling. You don't get anything under, e.g. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/ or under /proc. What else is needed to get CPU frequency scaling to work? On other platforms, there are additional modules under kernel/arch/arch, but this is not the case for powerpc. The system in question is a Mac Mini (7447A). Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpC1WnFFupp4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: question about yaboot and radeon 9200
Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [ Please feel free to space your text into paragraphs, and put spaces after sentences and punctuation; it will make it much more readable, and hence easier for people to help you. Thanks. ] I'm running debian etch on my powermac with one of those radeon 9200 mac edition cards and a single sync monitor.The monitor can only to 1024x768 and 1280x1024,what do I need to add to my yaboot.conf to make it boot up at 1280x1024?I have tried a number of different things,like video= radeonfb:1024x768 but the only thing that seems to work is video=ofonly.I remember a few months ago I was able to do this with something like option:1024x768,but I cant remember. append=video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where @70 is the refresh rate. Another question; I cant switch from X to a virtual terminal,my monitor turns off like its on a resolution the monitor cant do,even though it works before I start X.Any suggestions? Possibly a misconfigured framebuffer. The above should fix that. One more question; I cant seem to get dri working on this card,can someone with this card(the pci radeon 9200) reply with there xorg.conf please? Section Module Loaddri EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpjTfZZciUnT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub2 on powerpc
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you might know, experimental grub2 support has been added to d-i when using the expert mode, but it is only yet available on i386/amd64. I think powerpc support might be a bit premature. The powerpc code upstream is a bit lagging compared with i386/amd64, and depends on tools not in Debian. For example, changed to the i386 shell scripts have not been made to the corresponding powerpc scripts; this really needs to be made into common code, to avoid this needless effort. The same also applies to some of the C source. It's not a great deal of work to fix these issues, but I am currently lacking sufficient time to do it myself. This may be outdated though--I haven't checked out grub2 for a couple of months, so it may have already been rectified. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpadFMIEjW1l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub2?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know yaboot but I do know grub. I'll be going to see the vendor in a couple of weeks. I see that grub2 is in testing but no sign of grub-disk yet. Is anyone running grub2 who could make me a grub2 floppy disk? I don't need a boot menu, just a grub command line. Such a disk image could then be emailed to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] grub2 is still somewhat experimental, so it probably won't work for you at present. If you want to use it, I would suggest building from CVS to create a custom [of]grub, and then boot that from OpenFirmware by hand. I can't make you such an image, because I've never seen a powerpc system with a floppy drive, so creating a bootable one is likely to fail. Until grub2 is stable, I would suggest using yaboot. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpnV0GJsco8z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub2 on powerpc
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is strange. I know one of the core grub2 maintainers is using powerpc regularly (with code from CVS). It certainly works--I've used it myself. But there is so much duplicated, common, code between the ports, it really is asking for splitting into separate arch-specific and generic parts, rather than duplicating the entirety for each port. As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? Yes. Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support impossible). It's just grub-install that breaks. Installing by hand works. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgpMf9a0RJOzf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub2 on powerpc
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support impossible). ofpathname is part of the ibm-powerpc-utils package (not the same as the package currently in debian), and Aurelien Gerome is packaging it, since yaboot also needs it over the kind-of-broken ofpath found in the yaboot code, so this should be less an issue than you think. While ofpathname uses sysfs, and supports a wider range of devices, it doesn't support partitions on devices (needed by yaboot), and also has a different output format than yaboot. yaboot would need updating to support it. IMO ofpathname really does need fixing to support partitions of devices. $ /usr/sbin/ofpath /dev/hda /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: $ /home/rleigh/powerpc-utils-1.0.2/scripts/ofpathname /dev/hda /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ /usr/sbin/ofpath /dev/hda4 /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:4 $ /home/rleigh/powerpc-utils-1.0.2/scripts/ofpathname /dev/hda4 /home/rleigh/powerpc-utils-1.0.2/scripts/ofpathname: line 237: cd: /sys/block/hda4: No such file or directory ofpathname: Could not find sysfs information for logical device /dev/hda4. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. pgp0CWHWD27BY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: yaboot and jfs
Mike Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... I currently use grub on the x86 and am very happy with it. Does Grub 2 work on PPC? Previously it hasn't; I'm not sure what the difference is between them (other than where their configs go). Doug. It worked on my G4 PowerMac last time I tried it. One of the contributors for the PowerPC part of it works for IBM, I think, so maybe it will work on your machine too. I believe it's a full re-write. It's now in Debian unstable. However... it is still experimental. There are certain things grub2 needs (ofpathname, from IBM powerpc-utils) not yet packaged for Debian. It would be nice to use ofpath from yaboot as a replacement to remove this dependency (or, better, merge the two utilities into one). The setup scripts also need some work; checking upstream, they have differences from the ix86 scripts which need fixing (probably just outdated in some cases). Summary: it should work if you are prepared to mess around, but it needs some work before it is generally usable. If anyone has the time and desire to work on this, it would be very useful; I don't currently have the time to work on it myself. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpldDI1bGbZ1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I lost yaboot!
Petris Dimitrios [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a powerbook G4 and debian installed on it. I recently lost my yaboot bootloader and it starts automatically with osx. Does anyone know how to restore the bootloader without losing any data? Another alternative is to boot into OpenFirmware (Command-Option-O-F) and manually set the boot device: First, to load yaboot, try: 0 boot hd:2,yaboot (for /dev/hda2). If that doesn't work, you can: printenv boot-device This will tell you the current device. Write it down in case something gets screwed up! 0 setenv boot-device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2,\\:tbxi or 0 setenv boot-device=hd:2,\\:tbxi 0 mac-boot This is for yaboot on /dev/hda2 on my Mac Mini. Check what your current settings are, and adjust appropriately. OF is fairly easy, other than the stupidly long pathnames. help is a good command to start with. See http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/yaboot/doc/yaboot-howto.shtml/ch9.en.shtml for other recovery instructions... Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpExBviZo2OJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Yaboot maintenance
Is anyone planning to adopt yaboot? I can take care of it if there are no other volunteers... I can set up a project on Alioth if there's any interest. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpWJSWkiC8YI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Monitor never suspends on G4 Mac Mini with Sony Flat Panel
Shyamal Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a very straight forward Debian etch installation on a G4 Mac Mini. One issue with X (xorg) is that the monitor (a Sony flat panel, SDM S204) never seems to go into the sleep state. The screen seems to blank and all, but the monitor continues to run at full power. I have exactly the same problem with an Apple Cinema Display connected via DVI. Neither the console nor Xorg seem to be able to put it in standby. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpuW2SFWTtB9.pgp Description: PGP signature
GRUB for powerpc
Hi folks, As you might know, GRUB version 2 will support powerpc in addition to ix86 systems. The next release of the grub2 package in Debian should have initial support for powerpc. In the meantime, the latest release is available here: http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/grub-1.93.tar.gz and some documentation about setup is here: http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnPowerPC I last tried it in December, and it booted, but was still a little flaky (it's still in development). But any issues we find with it will only go to make it better. Hopefully once it's got the same amount of polish as the i386 port, and the setup scripts are fixed up for easy installation and integration with OpenFirmware, it will be a good candidate to replace yaboot. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpDN3obZPKZz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GRUB for powerpc
Jack Malmostoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:50:23 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Hopefully once it's got the same amount of polish as the i386 port, and the setup scripts are fixed up for easy installation and integration with OpenFirmware, it will be a good candidate to replace yaboot. Can you post some kind of quick howto on how to set it up to help testing it? Thanks! It was the second URL in my post: http://grub.enbug.org/TestingOnPowerPC This takes you through the process step by step. It installs it alongside yaboot, and you can then run from OpenFirmware, and/or use OpenFirmware to change the default from yaboot. (NB. Print the Booting section out onto paper, or write it out by hand, so that you can manually boot the system should things screw up. This is also handy when re-enabling yaboot.) Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpigIwTuRUzd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GRUB for powerpc
Eric Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 01:16:02PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: Hopefully once it's got the same amount of polish as the i386 port, and the setup scripts are fixed up for easy installation and integration with OpenFirmware, it will be a good candidate to replace yaboot. Is it supposed to work on OldWorld machines also, as a quik replacement? I don't know, sorry. I only have a NewWorld system. AFAICT it currently needs OpenFirmware to boot (it compiles into an ofgrub executable). It may be possible to add OldWorld support, but I know nothing about that. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpHmtNGuF6ac.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6.16-rc2 powerpc timestamp skew
Paul Mackerras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes: Ok, does not using NTP fixes it ? Try this patch. With this the values from gettimeofday() or the VDSO should stay exactly in sync with xtime even if NTP is adjusting the clock. This patch still has quite a few debugging printks in it, so it's not final by any means. I'll be interested to hear how it goes, and in particular whether or not you see any oops, time got ahead messages. Without your patch, the clock works perfectly when NTP is not in use, but when NTP is in use I get a large amount of skew (3 min) after about half an hour. With your patch (tested against 2.6.16-rc3), there is no skew whether NTP is running or not, and the system has been up 90 mins so far. They two times appear to be the same. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgp4kHW1aH5m7.pgp Description: PGP signature
ltrace broken?
Is ltrace working for anyone else in current unstable? $ ltrace cat +++ exited (status 0) +++ $ ltrace ls / bindev homelost+found misc proc sbin sys var boot etc initrd macosx mnt root selinux tmp cdrom foo lib media opt run srv usr +++ exited (status 0) +++ -S traces syscalls OK, but it's not reporting any library calls. Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug doesn't help. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpDJOuXz4dKd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ltrace broken?
Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is ltrace working for anyone else in current unstable? $ ltrace cat +++ exited (status 0) +++ Seems okay here: Thanks guys. It looks like it's broken when used together with prelink. -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpl0kyc3WOgc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6.16-rc2 powerpc timestamp skew
Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 17:13 +, Roger Leigh wrote:
Hi folks,
When running a 2.6.16-rc2 kernel on a powerpc system (Mac Mini;
Freescale 7447A):
$ date touch f ls -l f rm -f f date
Sun Feb 12 12:20:14 GMT 2006
-rw-r--r-- 1 rleigh rleigh 0 2006-02-12 12:23
Sun Feb 12 12:20:14 GMT 2006
Notice the timestamp is 3 minutes in the future compared with the
system time. make is not a very happy bunny running on this kernel
due to every touched file being 3 minutes in the future.
When the same command is run on 2.6.15.3:
$ date touch f ls -l f rm -f f date
Sun Feb 12 14:27:27 GMT 2006
-rw-r--r-- 1 rleigh rleigh 0 2006-02-12 14:27
Sun Feb 12 14:27:27 GMT 2006
In this case the times are identical, as you would expect.
In both these cases, the chrony NTP daemon is running, if that might
be a problem.
Can you strace vs. ltrace and see if the gettimeofday or clock_gettime
syscalls are ever called ?
| strace| ltrace
---+---+
2.6.15 | |
date | clock_gettime | clock_gettime - SYS_clock_gettime,
| | localtime, strftime
touch | utimes| futimes - SYS_utimes
| |
2.6.16-rc2 | |
date | clock_gettime | clock_gettime - SYS_clock_gettime,
| | localtime, strftime
touch | utimes| futimes - SYS_utimes
[clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME, {1139826613, 157402000}) = 0]
I wonder if you have a glibc new enough to
use the vDSO to obtain the time or if it's using the syscall... The vDSO
on ppc32 is very new.
It's glibc 2.3.5 (Debian libc6 2.3.5-13).
Also, are your kernels built with ARCH=ppc or ARCH=powerpc ?
ppc.
Thanks,
Roger
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Re: 2.6.16-rc1
Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Further investigation (using netconsole) shows the breakage (in 2.6.16-rc1 and -rc2) is due to discovering an additional IDE controller (KeyLargo) before the normal (UniNorth) controller: Some patch that went in -rc1 screwed up the existing .config's, you probably lost CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC_ATA100FIRST This was exactly what was missing. Thanks all. -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgp5wHgQYRKMy.pgp Description: PGP signature
2.6.16-rc2 powerpc timestamp skew
Hi folks, When running a 2.6.16-rc2 kernel on a powerpc system (Mac Mini; Freescale 7447A): $ date touch f ls -l f rm -f f date Sun Feb 12 12:20:14 GMT 2006 -rw-r--r-- 1 rleigh rleigh 0 2006-02-12 12:23 Sun Feb 12 12:20:14 GMT 2006 Notice the timestamp is 3 minutes in the future compared with the system time. make is not a very happy bunny running on this kernel due to every touched file being 3 minutes in the future. When the same command is run on 2.6.15.3: $ date touch f ls -l f rm -f f date Sun Feb 12 14:27:27 GMT 2006 -rw-r--r-- 1 rleigh rleigh 0 2006-02-12 14:27 Sun Feb 12 14:27:27 GMT 2006 In this case the times are identical, as you would expect. In both these cases, the chrony NTP daemon is running, if that might be a problem. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpduSGgbAXHi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6.16-rc2 powerpc timestamp skew
Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When running a 2.6.16-rc2 kernel on a powerpc system (Mac Mini; Freescale 7447A): $ date touch f ls -l f rm -f f date Sun Feb 12 12:20:14 GMT 2006 -rw-r--r-- 1 rleigh rleigh 0 2006-02-12 12:23 Sun Feb 12 12:20:14 GMT 2006 Notice the timestamp is 3 minutes in the future compared with the system time. make is not a very happy bunny running on this kernel due to every touched file being 3 minutes in the future. In both these cases, the chrony NTP daemon is running, if that might be a problem. Some further information: - this does not appear to affect i386 kernels - I have CONFIG_HZ_250=y CONFIG_HZ=250 in my .config; the full config is at http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/config-2.6.16-rc2 Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpGQ8LGCP2Zo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6.16-rc2 powerpc timestamp skew
Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When running a 2.6.16-rc2 kernel on a powerpc system (Mac Mini; Freescale 7447A): $ date touch f ls -l f rm -f f date Sun Feb 12 12:20:14 GMT 2006 -rw-r--r-- 1 rleigh rleigh 0 2006-02-12 12:23 Sun Feb 12 12:20:14 GMT 2006 Notice the timestamp is 3 minutes in the future compared with the system time. make is not a very happy bunny running on this kernel due to every touched file being 3 minutes in the future. I've had several spates of time-going-nuts on ppc64. The most recent one was because someone went and fiddled with Kconfig naming and I lost the RTC driver. What does `grep RTC .config' say? CONFIG_GEN_RTC=y CONFIG_GEN_RTC_X=y CONFIG_SENSORS_RTC8564=m CONFIG_RTC_X1205_I2C=m This is just ppc, not ppc64, BTW: $ uname -m ppc Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgppPkmAJ80EE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6.16-rc1
Rene Engelhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Emmanuel Galatoulas wrote: Has anyone managed to get linux-2.6.16-rc1 to boot successfully on a powermac? It appears to detect the IDE controller and HDD on my mac mini, but then fails to mount the root fs. (It's hard to double check this because the USB keyboard isn't initialised by the failure, so I can't scroll back to check.) Yep. same here. iBook G4. Further investigation (using netconsole) shows the breakage (in 2.6.16-rc1 and -rc2) is due to discovering an additional IDE controller (KeyLargo) before the normal (UniNorth) controller: Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx +ide0: Found Apple KeyLargo ATA-3 controller, bus ID 0, irq 24 PCI: Enabling device 0002:20:0d.0 ( - 0002) -ide0: Found Apple UniNorth ATA-6 controller, bus ID 3, irq 39 -hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive -hdb: MATSHITACD-RW CW-8123, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive -hda: Enabling Ultra DMA 5 -hdb: Enabling Ultra DMA 2 -ide0 at 0xe1022000-0xe1022007,0xe1022160 on irq 39 -ide1: Found Apple KeyLargo ATA-3 controller, bus ID 0, irq 24 -hda: max request size: 1024KiB -hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB), CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) -hda: cache flushes supported - hda: [mac] hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 hda5 hda6 hda7 -hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) +ide1: Found Apple UniNorth ATA-6 controller, bus ID 3, irq 39 +hdc: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive +hdd: MATSHITACD-RW CW-8123, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive +hdc: Enabling Ultra DMA 5 +hdd: Enabling Ultra DMA 2 +ide1 at 0xe102a000-0xe102a007,0xe102a160 on irq 39 +hdc: max request size: 512KiB +hdc: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB), CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) +hdc: cache flushes supported + hdc: [mac] hdc1 hdc2 hdc3 hdc4 hdc5 hdc6 hdc7 +hdd: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) As a result, the IDE device names are changed and the boot fails. If the controllers were discovered in the reverse order, it wouldn't break existing installations. In both these cases the systems are G4-based PowerMacs (Mac Mini and iBook). In the case of the Mini, I'm not even certain it's physically possible to use this additional controller, given how closed the system is. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. $ netcat -u -l -p Total memory = 512MB; using 1024kB for hash table (at c040) Linux version 2.6.15.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-7)) #22 Wed Feb 8 20:44:14 GMT 2006 Found UniNorth memory controller host bridge, revision: 210 Mapped at 0xfddf4000 Found a Intrepid mac-io controller, rev: 0, mapped at 0xfdd74000 Processor NAP mode on idle enabled. PowerMac motherboard: Mac mini Enabling clock spreading on Intrepid ASIC Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf000. Firmware bus number: 0-0 Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf200. Firmware bus number: 0-0 Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf400. Firmware bus number: 0-0 via-pmu: Server Mode is disabled PMU driver 2 initialized for Core99, firmware: 55 nvram: Checking bank 0... nvram: gen0=470, gen1=469 nvram: Active bank is: 0 nvram: OF partition at 0x410 nvram: XP partition at 0x1020 nvram: NR partition at 0x1120 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda3 ro video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]/,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ netconsole: local port 6665 netconsole: local IP 1.0.0.0 netconsole: interface eth0 netconsole: remote port netconsole: remote IP 10.0.0.12 netconsole: remote ethernet address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff PowerMac using OpenPIC irq controller at 0x8004 OpenPIC Version 1.2 (4 CPUs and 64 IRQ sources) at fc523000 OpenPIC timer frequency is 4.16 MHz PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 65536 bytes) GMT Delta read from XPRAM: 0 minutes, DST: off time_init: decrementer frequency = 41.620997 MHz Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Memory: 514048k available (2696k kernel code, 1044k data, 164k init, 0k highmem) AGP special page: 0xd000 Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Capability LSM initialized as secondary Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 device-tree: property l2-cache name conflicts with node in /cpus/PowerPC,[EMAIL PROTECTED] NET: Registered protocol family 16 PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0001:10:18.0 PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0001:10:19.0 Apple USB OHCI 0001:10:18.0 disabled by firmware Apple USB OHCI 0001:10:19.0 disabled
Re: 2.6.16-rc1
Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone managed to get linux-2.6.16-rc1 to boot successfully on a powermac? It appears to detect the IDE controller and HDD on my mac mini, but then fails to mount the root fs. (It's hard to double check this because the USB keyboard isn't initialised by the failure, so I can't scroll back to check.) rc2 is also broken in the same way. -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. pgpXi7IhfEthc.pgp Description: PGP signature
2.6.16-rc1
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Re: Bug in powerpc gdb?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Till Straumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roger. Hi! just dug around in gdb's guts and came up with a new patch. It seemed to fix the simple test case (test::testmethod) with gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13) / gdb-6.3 (stock). If you have the time, please let me know if it works. *Much* much improved. Before: hardknott:/home/rleigh/projects/schroot/schroot# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug gdb ./schroot GNU gdb 6.3-debian Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as powerpc-linux...Using host libthread_db library /usr/lib/debug/libthread_db.so.1. (gdb) break sbuild_session_setup_chroot Breakpoint 1 at 0x100129fc: file sbuild-session.c, line 491. (gdb) run -c sid-snap Starting program: /home/rleigh/projects/schroot/schroot/schroot -c sid-snap Breakpoint 1, sbuild_session_setup_chroot (session=0x1004e770, session_chroot=0x1004bf60, setup_type=SBUILD_CHROOT_SETUP_START, error=0x7fade548) at sbuild-session.c:491 491 g_return_val_if_fail(SBUILD_IS_SESSION(session), FALSE); (gdb) bt #0 sbuild_session_setup_chroot (session=0x1004e770, session_chroot=0x1004bf60, setup_type=SBUILD_CHROOT_SETUP_START, error=0x7fade548) at sbuild-session.c:491 #1 0x10014488 in sbuild_session_run (session=0x1004e770, error=0x10054788) at sbuild-session.c:1064 #2 0x10015304 in sbuild_cclosure_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=Variable n_param_values is not available. ) at sbuild-marshallers.c:162 #3 0x0fa7d9dc in g_type_class_meta_marshal (closure=0x1004e770, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0, marshal_data=0x48) at gclosure.c:569 #4 0x0fa7e2c0 in IA__g_closure_invoke (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0) at gclosure.c:492 #5 0x0fa7e2c0 in IA__g_closure_invoke (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0) at gclosure.c:492 #6 0x0fa7e2c0 in IA__g_closure_invoke (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0) at gclosure.c:492 #7 0x0fa7e2c0 in IA__g_closure_invoke (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0) at gclosure.c:492 #8 0x0fa7e2c0 in IA__g_closure_invoke (closure=0x1004e0e0, - ---Type return to continue, or q return to quit--- return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0) at gclosure.c:492 #9 0x0fa7e2c0 in IA__g_closure_invoke (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0) at gclosure.c:492 #10 0x0fa7e2c0 in IA__g_closure_invoke (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0) at gclosure.c:492 #11 0x0fa7e2c0 in IA__g_closure_invoke (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fade680, n_param_values=2, param_values=0x7fade790, invocation_hint=0x7fade6a0) at gclosure.c:492 Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) (gdb) After: hardknott:/home/rleigh/projects/schroot/schroot# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug gdb ./schroot GNU gdb 6.3-debian Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as powerpc-linux-gnu...Using host libthread_db library /usr/lib/debug/libthread_db.so.1. (gdb) break sbuild_session_setup_chroot Breakpoint 1 at 0x100129fc: file sbuild-session.c, line 491. (gdb) run -c sid-snap Starting program: /home/rleigh/projects/schroot/schroot/schroot -c sid-snap Breakpoint 1, sbuild_session_setup_chroot (session=0x1004e770, session_chroot=0x1004bf60, setup_type=SBUILD_CHROOT_SETUP_START, error=0x7fc04548) at sbuild-session.c:491 491 g_return_val_if_fail(SBUILD_IS_SESSION(session), FALSE); (gdb) bt #0 sbuild_session_setup_chroot (session=0x1004e770, session_chroot=0x1004bf60, setup_type=SBUILD_CHROOT_SETUP_START, error=0x7fc04548) at sbuild-session.c:491 #1 0x10014488 in sbuild_session_run (session=0x1004e770, error=0x10054788) at sbuild-session.c:1064 #2 0x10015304 in sbuild_cclosure_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED (closure=0x1004e0e0, return_value=0x7fc04680
powerpc Etch Release Certification
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Re: FTBFS due to dynamic variable `_SDA_BASE_@@WXU_2.6' is zero size
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, this may also be a bug in binutils, which is currently some somewhat problematic CVS snapshot, so you may want to file a bug report against it. Please also see #329710 (and #329709) for a trivial test case reproducing this bug. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mac mini sound
Andrzej Mendel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK Mac Mini's mixer is not supported yet or there is none (BenH posted here that he couldn't find one). Audio output (w/o hardware mixing) works very well in 2.6.12, and playing multiple streams is possible with help of dmix ALSA plugin (well tested by me :). ALSA should enable it by default, by in my case it didn't. Please could you share your asound.conf to show us how to enable it? Thanks, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gimp Print missing after upgrade
Alex Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After my latest upgrade (I am using deb testing) Gimp does not give me the option to print. I found that the file /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-in/print is gone in is not now provieded by the deb package. This is the file that provides the printing plug-in for the Gimp. Does anyone know why it is missing? Is the just a ppc issue? or has it been removed for everyone. The project has changed name: it is now called gutenprint. Maybe some package dependency is missing? apt-get install gimp-print should install the Print plug-in. It should hopefully be part of the main Gimp package for Gimp 2.4. Regards, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New ghc6 needs manual bootstrapping for C++ ABI/libgmp3 transition.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 LaMont Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:28:10PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: Because of the C++ ABI transition, ghc6 needs to be rebuild against the new libgmp3c2. To build it, follow the instruction in debian/bootstrap-extracted. Done. Btw, if I'm silly enough to try to rebuild ghc6 using the newly-built ghc6, then haddock is FTBFS (after ghc6, build happy, then try haddock...): I was silly enough... When I did it for powerpc, I bootstrapped ghc6, then built happy, haddock and haskell-utils, then rebuilt ghc6 with sbuild and my new packages. Did you patch for #300385 and #316657? Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFDH0FVVcFcaSW/uEgRAunRAJ9LBUnq11HoFLLpm9r6FRl5eNd5BwCfRlwc b9jw2wfBOspx9yTrDp9Ntlk= =o/yH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New ghc6 needs manual bootstrapping for C++ ABI/libgmp3 transition.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kurt Roeckx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because of the C++ ABI transition, ghc6 needs to be rebuild against the new libgmp3c2. This however requires a manual bootstrap because all build dependencies can't be installed. We're however lucky that the old and new libgmp3 are compatible and nothing is using any C++. This allows an easy workaround. I'm still looking for people who want to build it on one of the following arches: hppa, ia64, powerpc and s390. I'll do powerpc. It's currently bootstrapping on my Mac Mini. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFDGOH9VcFcaSW/uEgRAgdCAKDla838A1UVEt0a+NupRYl8gfHLQACfU1iF QoGgHio4Vb3abo6mxRdSu2Q= =96FV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for an interresting programming project to participate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rainer Gutkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I'm looking for a project, that is interresting and where I can learn a lot about the following programming issues: For a wider variety of problems, take a look at: http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?ignore=sidnew=7refresh=900 and pick one that looks interesting, try to reproduce it, fix it and make a patch, and add the patch to the bug report. Alternatively, find a project that interests you, and dig in. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFC/nkUVcFcaSW/uEgRAnA/AJ9Uh49+Xzd3xn6CigyjdZ54XFyb2ACfUS3d hCd5nJ8vdMJFFjPy8BjBNmM= =RzuB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weird failures on the mac mini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been experiencing some strangeness over the last few days. This is mainly due to failed builds. For example, ldd segfaulted while running a debhelper script. I retried the build and it worked fine. Just a few minutes ago, another build failed with this error: if /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile powerpc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../src/main -I../.. -I../../../../include -I../../include -Wall -Wcast-align -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wwrite-strings -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Winline -finline-limit=1048576 -g -O2 -MT dither-ordered.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/dither-ordered.Tpo -c -o dither-ordered.lo ../../../../src/main/dither-ordered.c; \ then mv -f .deps/dither-ordered.Tpo .deps/dither-ordered.Plo; else rm -f .deps/dither-ordered.Tpo; exit 1; fi powerpc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../src/main -I../.. -I../../../../include -I../../include -Wall -Wcast-align -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wwrite-strings -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Winline -finline-limit=1048576 -g -O2 -MT dither-ordered.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/dither-ordered.Tpo -c ../../../../src/main/dither-ordered.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/dither-ordered.o if /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile powerpc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../src/main -I../.. -I../../../../include -I../../include -Wall -Wcast-align -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wwrite-strings -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Winline -finline-limit=1048576 -g -O2 -MT dither-very-fast.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/dither-very-fast.Tpo -c -o dither-very-fast.lo ../../../../src/main/dither-very-fast.c; \ then mv -f .deps/dither-very-fast.Tpo .deps/dither-very-fast.Plo; else rm -f .deps/dither-very-fast.Tpo; exit 1; fi powerpc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../src/main -I../../../../include -I../../include -Wall -Wcast-align -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -Wwrite-strings -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Winline -finline-limit=1048576 -g -O2 -MT dither-very-fast.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/dither-very-fast.Tpo -c ../../../../src/main/dither-very-fast.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/dither-very-fast.o powerpc-linux-gnu-gcc: : No such file or directory ../../../../src/main/dither-very-fast.c:29:20: error: config.h: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [dither-very-fast.lo] Error 1 Notice the parameter. That should have been -I../.., as for the previous source file. Again, retrying the build worked find (it just completed). It's clear these random glitches are not errors in the packages I'm building. However, I'm not sure how to determine if it's a hardware or software problem. Are there any known powerpc kernel or libc problems that could manifest in this way? Is there any means of checking for hardware faults? If it needs replacing, are Apple going to deal with a GNU/Linux install on an Apple machine, i.e. can they use this as a way of not fulfilling the warranty? Many thanks, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFC7962VcFcaSW/uEgRAqLNAKCUxgsMQ4zjkM7R/pk9qdPMxCdO9ACZAZom cNKXwiYFb0AJH55x/ld6ztk= =V6c1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sid toolchain broken?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After the update of gcc-defaults last night, the toolchain looks quite broken. If I build a binary with gcc-4.0, it segfaults, but works find with gcc-3.3. http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?pkg=gcc-4.0 shows that the latest gcc-4.0 hasn't yet been built on powerpc. Is there a problem with voltaire? Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCzDywVcFcaSW/uEgRAvqHAJ4h70XGg8JFv7R2cI2d6YsN8yUrFACfRl5m +A5nDn/uIxMVkKOqNky3d7I= =/n9c -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sid toolchain broken?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roger Leigh wrote: If I build a binary with gcc-4.0, it segfaults, I can't reproduce that. Using gcc-4.0_4.0.0-11 here. I'm building schroot (0.1.2-1) from unstable. With the toolchain prior to the gcc-defaults update, it builds and runs fine. After the update, even schroot --help causes a segfault. It fails during the option parsing, just a few lines in to main(). Building by hand, CC=gcc-3.3 works, but CC=gcc-4.0 segfaults. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCzEKyVcFcaSW/uEgRAu/QAKCkRdZ5R+OWwk4rwHoJHJGuy8ml4ACbBZOI wtRCH08fGdxIMjkZq3NrM3Y= =W3T3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sid toolchain broken?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Roger Leigh wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roger Leigh wrote: If I build a binary with gcc-4.0, it segfaults, I can't reproduce that. Using gcc-4.0_4.0.0-11 here. I'm building schroot (0.1.2-1) from unstable. With the toolchain prior to the gcc-defaults update, it builds and runs fine. After the update, even schroot --help causes a segfault. It fails during the option parsing, just a few lines in to main(). Building by hand, CC=gcc-3.3 works, but CC=gcc-4.0 segfaults. Ah, but that's not If I build a binary in the sense of any binary... Yes. I've not dared to rebuild anything else yet, in case I end up with a broken system... Yes, I can reproduce the segfault you talk about. That's good to know. I can't see anything odd in the code. It's only simple C[99]--I'm not abusing GCC extensions or anything. Thanks, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCzEp+VcFcaSW/uEgRAoVlAJ98qEs2F6RYTR40UUZ7BVo/UEhnCwCgtubN vVVow0fhRui2a0Bf5mXG/80= =3Rc6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sid toolchain broken?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 21:44 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roger Leigh wrote: If I build a binary with gcc-4.0, it segfaults, I can't reproduce that. Using gcc-4.0_4.0.0-11 here. I'm building schroot (0.1.2-1) from unstable. With the toolchain prior to the gcc-defaults update, it builds and runs fine. After the update, even schroot --help causes a segfault. It fails during the option parsing, just a few lines in to main(). Building by hand, CC=gcc-3.3 works, but CC=gcc-4.0 segfaults. Could be a schroot bug which only triggers with gcc 4.0? It's a definite possibility, but I've reviewed the code, and not found anything odd. It's crashing so early, it's only run 7 lines in main() and 3 in parse_options(). Compiling with nearly all GCC warnings enabled doesn't show anything other than harmless shadowed declarations and cast discarding type qualifiers. I don't think there's a problem with the source. The actual error is in library code (g_option_context_parse()), which hasn't yet been rebuilt with GCC4, so I don't think the problem lies there, either. - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCzE/aVcFcaSW/uEgRAs4CAKCOIJJDikVB5LyksxNYgiLu3h8vdACeLKUv h4XLcThU/eUkpzvGf6mU5A0= =HhXG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Antialiased fonts in gtk1.x applications
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jack Malmostoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I already know the answer: gdkxft :) If you haven't found out the hard way already, it's worth mentioning that gdkxft can cause segfaults in other non-GTK+ processes due to using LD_PRELOAD. It's best to avoid if at all possible. Given that GTK+ 1.x is unmaintained and obsolete, and in many cases won't even work properly on a modern system (UTF-8 locales), it's not a good choice. If you are dependent on a particular application, it's usually a simple search and replace job to get it building with GTK+2.x, unless it's using a lot of voodoo. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCkPSvVcFcaSW/uEgRAtuGAKCiMMx9CfJc+d02yDdT3rJk82WTqwCeNWKK fdIsQatuQ9ulW+VRABfIB1E= =PbGw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug in powerpc gdb?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Till Straumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also experienced problems with the stack unwinder when using more recent gcc optimization. The attached patch may help (I thought I had sent it to the GDB site but am unable to find it in the database). Thanks. I applied it (by hand, since the source was too different) to gdb 6.3-5 in unstable. Unfortunately, it still fails to correctly print a backtrace. While building, I also saw a lot of test failures. This might be completely normal, since I've never built gdb before. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCimFzVcFcaSW/uEgRAjLcAKDt/G5k1UCo3CkYMJfk/0+fTlh96gCeJQam TwyeeBknHOR5YVzlTeYPOEw= =Fht0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bootable Cd's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joo Gabriel Sapucahy Chiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How I can burn bootable Cd's in OS X? I can't install linux because the cd don't boot I tried with disk utility and hdiutil, but... I burned a Debian ISO image using Disk Utility, and it worked just fine. You have to burn the .iso as an image, not a file (Images-Open, then Burn). Did you reboot hold down the 'C' key when you rebooted? Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFChjJdVcFcaSW/uEgRAlNRAKDqzRbkr280j3zsxiuXkwlAdRv/UgCgzogc mS4zDCs7Rwg6zF2NSQXuDhI= =A2y6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Bug in powerpc gdb?
Francois Taiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've encountered the same problem. It seems to be an issue with the newer version of gdb, but I don't know if it has been reported yet. Have you seen http://sourceware.org/ml/gdb/2004-11/msg00060.html That's rather more compact, thanks! The problem seems to be related to optimization and code relocation (PIC means position independant code if I'm correct). Ah. My case included both a shared library and a loadable module, so that makes sense. The bulk of the code was compiled with -fPIC. Thanks, Roger -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using a cinema display
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin Herrenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 23:32 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks, Today I received an Apple 20 Cinema Display to use with my Mac Mini. It works great in OS X, and on the framebuffer (booting with video=ofonly), but not with X. I'd like to get both the framebuffer and X set up correctly. For the framebuffer, if I boot with video=radeonfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] all I get is a blank screen (powersave mode?). AFAICT all the details are correct, but something is wrong. This is fixed in 2.6.12-rc, and by the 2 patches below. Index: linux-work/drivers/video/aty/radeon_base.c Index: linux-work/drivers/video/aty/radeon_i2c.c Thanks. I applied these to 2.6.11.7, and it works perfectly. For X, I have a similar problem. X starts without errors (in the logs), but the screen turns off and I have to power cycle the system to use it again. Has anyone got an example XF86Config-4 I could use? Currently, I'm using this: X need a similar patch to the second one, though it _might_ work on the mini as I think X doesn't even try to DDC on that one. Just use UseFBDev and eventually give X a modeline obtained from fbset. Hmm, I did this, and I still can't succeed. I've tried quite a number of configurations, but all turn off the monitor. In the end I've had to use the plain FBDev driver, so I can now at least use the system! I've attached by config below. Thanks, Roger Section Device Identifier Radeon 5962 Driver ati BusID PCI:0:16:0 Option SWcursor true Option UseFBDev true Option DDCMode false Option MonitorLayout TMDS Option PanelSize 1680x1050 EndSection Section Device Identifier FB 0 Driver fbdev BusID PCI:0:16:0 Option fbdev /dev/fb/0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Apple Cinema Display VendorName Apple Inc. ModelName Apple Cinema Display 20 HorizSync 28-90 VertRefresh 43-72 DisplaySize 434 270 #Option DPMS Mode 1680x1050 # D: 119.005 MHz, H: 64.677 kHz, V: 59.886 Hz DotClock 119.006 HTimings 1680 1728 1760 1840 VTimings 1050 1053 1059 1080 Flags-HSync +VSync EndMode EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device FB 0 MonitorApple Cinema Display DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1680x1050 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCYRMzVcFcaSW/uEgRAhtDAJ9rG7E+krwyPH4IXuEn+4/Gpg104ACgkhkZ kFWa7Bc8wHiGoxtq4L2JzGs= =Uut7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mac Mini framebuffer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can see the framebuffer console during boot, but after X starts (gdm) if i switch back to tty[1-6] the monitor goes into powersave mode so I can't see anything. This has now started working after I specified the framebuffer resolution on the kernel command-line. I also disabled the VGA console support, but this didn't have any effect. One other thing I have seen is if gdm/X11 is stopped while on a virtual console (e.g. /etc/init.d/gdm stop on tty1) the framebuffer is corrupted, but if I stop gdm from within itself (Actions-Reboot) there is no corruption. Regards, Roger - -- Roger Leigh Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/ Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://www.debian.org/ GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848. Please sign and encrypt your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFCRzcxVcFcaSW/uEgRAmKhAJ9MsMJkS5C3/M/+pQrlyCcLlTcABgCeKeiG l+kCsZQK+hAMGzCAfMFjyCo= =3mwj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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