Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread RP

On 6/9/20 12:19 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:

use the install disk as an all around rescue disk.
You can - there's a "rescue mode" if you look in the boot menus...

That's true, but I was looking for more tools than what busybox comes 
with.  Like an all purpose installer/rescue disk.  The suggestions above 
like Finnix and Grml gave me an idea - make my own with debian-live.  I 
now have my own custom live cd for rescuing systems with only the tools 
I personally need.




Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 10:24:53AM -0700, RP wrote:
>On 6/9/20 8:08 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> 
>> Why would we want to do that when downstream distributions for this
>> purpose are available. Frankly, I don't currently see that a Debian
>> rescue image could reach grml's level of matureness in time. We do have
>> more important things to spend our personpower on that are not alreadys
>> solved downstream.
>> 
>> Greetings
>> Marc
>> 
>This makes sense.  I for one was looking for something ala Arch where we can
>use the install disk as an all around rescue disk.

You can - there's a "rescue mode" if you look in the boot menus...

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Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread RP

On 6/9/20 8:08 AM, Marc Haber wrote:


Why would we want to do that when downstream distributions for this
purpose are available. Frankly, I don't currently see that a Debian
rescue image could reach grml's level of matureness in time. We do have
more important things to spend our personpower on that are not alreadys
solved downstream.

Greetings
Marc

This makes sense.  I for one was looking for something ala Arch where we 
can use the install disk as an all around rescue disk.




Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Marc Haber (2020-06-09 17:08:25)
> On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 03:09:26AM +, Paul Wise wrote:
> > Debian used to publish a "recovery" variant of Debian Live, but that
> > was dropped due to lack of maintenance at one point. I note there are
> > several Debian derivatives producing rescue/recovery live media (Grml,
> > rescatux, Finnix come to mind), I wonder if any of them would be
> > interested in forming a new Debian rescue/recovery team to publish
> > console and GUI recovery variants of Debian Live images.
> 
> Why would we want to do that when downstream distributions for this
> purpose are available. Frankly, I don't currently see that a Debian
> rescue image could reach grml's level of matureness in time. We do have
> more important things to spend our personpower on that are not alreadys
> solved downstream.

Seems to me you are both talking about same thing with different words:

Downstream has already implemented this.  How about asking those 
downstream developers if they might be interested in "upporting" their 
work so that it is a) implemented in Debian itself and therefore 
benefits both Debian and all of its downstreams, and b) is done by those 
already experienced with this without repeating effort.


(please, either of you, correct me if I am missing something)

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Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Jun 06, 2020 at 03:09:26AM +, Paul Wise wrote:
> Debian used to publish a "recovery" variant of Debian Live, but that
> was dropped due to lack of maintenance at one point. I note there are
> several Debian derivatives producing rescue/recovery live media (Grml,
> rescatux, Finnix come to mind), I wonder if any of them would be
> interested in forming a new Debian rescue/recovery team to publish
> console and GUI recovery variants of Debian Live images.

Why would we want to do that when downstream distributions for this
purpose are available. Frankly, I don't currently see that a Debian
rescue image could reach grml's level of matureness in time. We do have
more important things to spend our personpower on that are not alreadys
solved downstream.

Greetings
Marc

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