Re: Abusive language on Debian lists
On Du, 11 apr 21, 00:56:04, Eldon Koyle wrote: > > I feel these words always contribute to a toxic environment, however they > are being used intentionally by people I respect who hold a lot of influence > in this group, in open defiance of the accepted rules. Using a small shell > script (or regex) to catch the strongest of language (that should never be > used anyway) seems like a simple way to slow escalation in many cases. That would make it very difficult to post verbatim excerpts of some code comments or changelogs, and these are just some common examples. How would you even discuss the brainfuck programming language and associated packages (already in Debian)? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian artwork Bullseye - not allowed ?
On Vi, 14 aug 20, 09:54:12, JCZ wrote: > Hello dear Debian team, > > > This morning, I tried to create an account there: > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Artwork/Bullseye?action=newaccount > > Because I would like to participate to Debian artwork for Bullseye... > > I encode my information, but after that, I get this message: > > "Forbidden > > You are not allowed to access this!" > > After I get this error message, I tried a second time with a VPN to connect > back to the website and it works fine... Maybe I am "blacklisted/banned" ? > (I don't know why) Or maybe it is a bug? As far as I know certain IP addresses could be banned if they were used by spammers in the past. > Could someone help me to understand what happens? > > Could we fix that and create an account to let me participate to Debian > artwork for Bullseye? (and let me back access to this website) > > If you need more information about me, let me know. > > If you are not the right team concerning this request, please, let me know > who I have to contact. Such issues are usually dealt with by the -www team (in Cc). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Please consider making "corectrl" part of the debian distribution
On Sb, 27 iun 20, 08:46:37, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 6/27/20 7:18 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > In this particular case you might want to file an RFP (Request For > > Package). > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/RFP > > very interesting. I did not know of the RFP facility > > can that also be used to request packages to be included in the Live images? RFP is meant for software that is not packaged for Debian at all, but you thing it should be. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Please consider making "corectrl" part of the debian distribution
[Assuming you are not subscribed, sorry for the Cc: in case you are] On Sb, 27 iun 20, 15:21:42, hans_pali...@web.de wrote: > > please consider making the application "corectrl" a part of the > official debian (testing) distribution within the next few month. Please note that debian-project is meant for discussions about the Debian Project. For development of the Debian operating system the debian-devel list is more appropriate. In this particular case you might want to file an RFP (Request For Package). https://wiki.debian.org/RFP If done correctly, it will be automatically sent to debian-devel as well. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: alioth-lists and mailman3 (was Re: Discourse usability)
On Du, 19 apr 20, 18:55:10, Alex Muntada wrote: > Hi Andrei, > > > On Vi, 17 apr 20, 00:42:49, Abhijith PA wrote: > > > > > > I run a mailman3 instance with debian mailman3 package at > > > lists.fsci.org.in for FSCI[1]. If anyone interested to > > > try/test or need to run as lists.debian.net :) you are more > > > than welcome. > > > > alioth-lists.debian.net might be interested / a good test > > candidate. > > If I'm reading you correctly, you're suggesting that alioth-lists > might be run from lists.fsci.org.in mailman3. In my understanding Abhijith is offering help in case anyone would like to test Mailman 3 in Debian (e.g. on a debian.net domain and even for lists.debian.org if there is interest), lists.fsci.org was mentioned as "previous experience". Apologies if my understanding was wrong. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Discourse usability
On Vi, 17 apr 20, 00:42:49, Abhijith PA wrote: > > I run a mailman3 instance with debian mailman3 package at > lists.fsci.org.in for FSCI[1]. If anyone interested to try/test or > need to run as lists.debian.net :) you are more than welcome. alioth-lists.debian.net might be interested / a good test candidate. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts
On Lu, 13 apr 20, 19:56:28, Neil McGovern wrote: > > Firstly, trust levels. These are the levels of "trust" that the platform > has in any particular user. Instead of explaining it here, please have a > read of the following: > https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/ > The short version is that the more a particular account interacts with > the community in a positive way, the more trust the system has about > them, and the more privileges they are afforded to assist in > moderation. How do trust levels work for users interacting mainly (or even exclusively) via mail? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Testing Discourse for Debian
On Lu, 13 apr 20, 15:23:28, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Apr 13, 2020, Russ Allbery wrote: > > The thing with the "newer" projects that I've seen (and maybe I'm just a > curmudgeon trapped in a young person's body) is that they come off to me > as the early dotcom "exactly like X, except on the internet!" stuff. > > > Now, in a lot of cases the real conversation happens on GitHub, which > > isn't exactly the same thing as a forum. But forums seem to play a large > > role in some of the more vibrant communities (Rust, for instance). > > Haven't really gone there - I have noticed a lot of forums in regards to > microcontrollers; but I tend to just leech off of them as I can't stand > the whole "5th post on basically the same subject on the first page" > garbage that (beginner) fora tend to cultivate. Forums probably qualify for "like e-mail, except on the web", as they don't bring enough advantages to make them significantly better than e-mail. Discourse does have some advantages over forums. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Testing Discourse for Debian
On Lu, 13 apr 20, 14:23:30, Sean Whitton wrote: > > (a) would more clearly benefit from having more structure. It is less > clear that (b) would benefit, and (b) benefits from the posting of diffs > and replying using inline comments. It seems like Salsa would be better suited for commenting on actual code, though splitting the discussion is obviously not be optimal. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Salsa as authentication provider for Debian
On Sb, 11 apr 20, 19:27:53, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 10:04:55AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > I must be missing something so I'm asking: what is the *benefit* of > > avoiding collisions with Debian accounts? > > > f...@salsa.debian.org and f...@debian.org both existing and referring to > different people risks causing confusion. I'd like to understand why > we're going that way. If I understand correctly, then, using the -guest suffix would allow for foo-gu...@salsa.debian.org and f...@debian.org both existing and referring to different people. In my opinion this still doesn't significantly reduce the risk of confusion while also being quite unfriendly should the foo-guest user ever wish to become a Debian Member. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Salsa as authentication provider for Debian
On Mi, 08 apr 20, 19:40:27, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 14:30:43 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > Hi Zhu > > > > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 07:50:22PM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > > > 1. Can you still keep the "-guest" enforcement, so it's still easy to > > > recognize who is DD or not on salsa? > > > > No. The guest suffix was meant to avoid collisions with Debian > > accounts. And the tool used to enforce it is unmaintained. > > > I think avoiding collisions with debian accounts is still valuable, and > the proposal doesn't explain why removing this protection is in any way > related or necessary for other services to use salsa as auth providers. I must be missing something so I'm asking: what is the *benefit* of avoiding collisions with Debian accounts? While I'm at it, in my opinion as a non-Debian Member, getting rid of the -guest suffix is also slightly more welcoming for new contributors. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Package request
On Jo, 26 mar 20, 00:15:10, Justin wrote: > Hello guys, I am inquiring if you make a package which would like > onenote for microsoft. Do you have a interactive package that would be > used just like onenote or similar? > Also do you make a package like a virtual machine or similar where you > can instal windows in and run windows through debian platform? > > Thanks for you help > > JL Hi Justin, This mailing list is not for user support, please contact one of the channels on https://www.debian.org/support Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Upgrade From Debian 8 to Debian 10
On Lu, 08 iul 19, 08:58:34, Ammad Khan wrote: > Hi Team, Just another Debian user :) > I'm running large number of servers on Debian 8 and now want to > directly upgrade them from Debian 8 to Debian 10. > Is it possible to upgrade dist directly and what is harm with this > process? Debian 8 servers are using for hosting purpose and some > components are listed below : > - Nginx- Apache- Varnish- Mysql 5.5- Memcached- PHP 7.0 - FPM service > is using with Apache According to: https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/armel/release-notes/ch-about.en.html Please note that we only support and document upgrading from the previous release of Debian (in this case, the upgrade from stretch). If you need to upgrade from older releases, we suggest you read previous editions of the release notes and upgrade to stretch first. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Sticker / Advertising
On Lu, 13 mai 19, 06:49:05, Jonathan Schmid wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > i'm a big fan of Linux and am very interested in your company. > I would be very happy about stickers / advertising articles of your company. > > Greetings > Jonathan Schmid Hi Jonathan, See https://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise Kind regards, Andrei P.S. for the future you might want to consider using a longer, more descriptive subject as your message could easily be mistaken as spam based on the subject. -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: CD/DVD Vendor no longer has valid domain name
Hi Tristan, On Du, 09 aug 15, 15:09:02, Tristan B. Kildaire wrote: On the CD/DVD's vendors page here https://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/, the last vendor based in South Africa does not have a valid existing domain name anymore and I suggest your remove it. This is the no-longer existing Vendor's domain name: http://www.linuxos.co.za/ Thanks for information, I'm CCing the debian-www list, where the people in charge of the CD vendors list can be found. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Any plans to add Pale Moon browser to the repository?
On Jo, 12 mar 15, 12:50:17, fidelis wrote: Hello, Hi fidelis, I just wanted to know if you have any plans to add Pale Moon browser to the repository. If not would you consider it? Just for your information, debian-project is dedicated to non-technical discussions. Information about packaging in progress is easily accessible on https://bugs.debian.org/wnpp and you can always file an RFP (Request For Package) yourself. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information. Here's a link to the website http://www.palemoon.org/, sourceforge page http://sourceforge.net/projects/pm4linux/ and redistribution license http://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml. Having a (very) quick look at the redistribution license it seems problematic for Debian, even for the non-free section. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop
On Lu, 11 aug 14, 19:38:47, David Weinehall wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 06:00:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I do: I see a reason to netinst a 0.629xCD size desktop install rather than a 0.829xCD size desktop when bandwidth is costly. Yes, but if you netinst you can *pick* your desktop, it's not like you have to pick the default. Do a minimal install, then use tasksel to select XFCE (or just x + a window manager + the application you actually need). Even the netinst has a default. Besides your method below it's also possible to change it using the boot menu, which many will miss or be afraid to try (it's under Advanced options), so will end up with whatever Debian chooses as default. So the default matters also for the netinst, unless it's made easier to change from the installation process itself. Probably easiest would be to just get rid of Mail server, Web server, Print server (CUPS will get pulled anyway as dependency of most if not all major DEs), etc. and instead display a list of Desktop Environments to choose from. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#747290: Please display the new Code of Conduct
Package: www.debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-project@lists.debian.org On Ma, 06 mai 14, 13:45:11, Brian Gupta wrote: All kidding aside, is there a plan to post the CoC, and make it easy to find from www.d.o? (Perhaps either in the About section, or on the about Debian page?) Perhaps I should just file a bug and let web team figure out best placement? Done... ahem, filed :) Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wheezy 7.3 KDE
On Ma, 28 ian 14, 14:39:14, Harangozo Sandor wrote: Hi, No one could answer me on IRC channels (Debian, Debian-KDE, KDE, KWIN..) when I use KDE desktop environment I like to use two effects, Glide and Magic Lamp. On every distibution I've tried works except Debian, so it is not a question for KDE. The message I get these effects cannot be activated. Could someone tell my why. I tried more than hundred distributions in the last two months and with KDE these effects worked. I telling this to prove the problem is not with the hardware. By the way my graphich card is a Radeon 9600 (IGP). debian-project is not a user support list, you may want to try any of http://www.debian.org/support http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ http://forums.debian.net/ http://ask.debian.net/ irc://irc.oftc.net/debian (there are #debian networks also on other networks, you didn't mention which one did you try). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Surveying new package maintainers about their experience of contributing to Debian
On Vi, 19 iul 13, 22:20:42, Joseph R. Justice wrote: I just think it would be good for the survey to explicitly acknowledge that non-packaging contributors and non-packaging contributions exist, and that Debian desires to also improve the way those efforts are made, even though _this_ survey is focused on packaging contributors or contributions. As a non-packaging contributor I think you are reading too much into it. It's just *a* survey, not a press statement or whatever. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Surveying new package maintainers about their experience of contributing to Debian
On Vi, 19 iul 13, 15:41:27, Simon Chopin wrote: The fact is, I don't think we have much to track non-packaging contributions and contributors in the first place. Before considering adressing them the same kind of survey, we would probably need a way to identify them. For translators the Last-Translator: field in the .po files can be used. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations
On Mi, 19 iun 13, 10:33:42, MJ Ray wrote: I would prefer a simpler listing of which developers are available for hire and which projects they are interested in working on. If that could be presented in the PTS, package managers or reportbug, that would be great. Would anyone block such changes? Disclosure: like many developers, I'm listed on http://www.debian.org/consultants/ but don't get much work from it. I would argue that the better option would be to just add a marker that a particular consultant is a DD. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: KickStarter for Debian packages - crowdfunding/donations for development
On Sb, 15 iun 13, 21:38:24, Manu Sporny wrote: Yes, we probably don't want to create a Mos Eisley in Debian. However, knowing that you can go somewhere to hire Debian developers to fix issues that you're having with the system would be very helpful for companies (like ours and the ones we sub-contract from) that build products on top of Debian. http://www.debian.org/consultants/ Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [all candidates] Removing or limiting DD rights?
On Ma, 02 apr 13, 17:34:28, Russ Allbery wrote: Starting off with a maintainer that closes my bug report with no explanation at all? How do I join the team, when the team refuses to communicate? Why would I make another bigger offer my time, when the team doesn't offer theirs even when /I/ have? One possible option to consider when this happens is to write mail to debian-devel (or debian-user, not sure which would be best) along the lines of: debian-user would do IMHO. If the issue is too complicated the reporter can always be referred to higher authorities (-devel, TC, etc.). Hey, could folks have a look at bug #NN? I think this is a valid bug, but the maintainer obviously disagrees. However, they've not written me or the bug to explain why, and I don't understand the disagreement. What am I missing? I think that would be well-received by just about everyone. Maybe some advice in this direction could be included in the BTS notification? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A Debian contributor StackOverflow
On Vi, 05 apr 13, 09:22:34, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Right. Let me add as a shameless plug that the service is in dire need of volunteer admins that help with the setup (shapado configuration, themes, etc.) and also keep a link with upstream development to discuss our needs, cherry pick patches, etc. An e-mail interface would be awesome! Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Size of images of disks of a distribution kit of debian
On Du, 17 mar 13, 10:38:01, Деревянкин Андрей wrote: Good afternoon. Whether and it is impossible to unite all 8 dvd of files of images in one file an image? Gradually dvd consign drives to the past, now on system units any more don't put dvd drives. Appeared a card with a capacity more than 32 G flash. There is an opportunity to install system with the help a flash of cards. Speed the Internet increased, I what to download 32 G will need about 6 hours. Maybe it should be taken into account a question of combination of 8 files of images of dvd in one file an image? debian-project is not meant for such discussions, you should probably contact debian-cd instead, but do look at the blue-ray images first, they might be suitable for what you need. Yours faithfully, Andrey. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to install scanner on my Debian
On Jo, 17 ian 13, 21:24:33, aniakufel wrote: I have been a user of Debian for about half a year and generally speaking the whole process on installing this system did not cause me a lot of problems, hovewer some minor problems, as usual, had to appear. There is one problem I do not how to cope with, namely my old scanner MUSTEK 1200 which I have not been able to install successfully on my Debian so far. I have been trying to find a solution to this problen on the Internet, but nothing interesting has been found. I would be very grateful if you would send me some suggestions concerning what I can do to install my old scanner on my beloved Debian version 6.0. You should contact debian-user instead, this list is not for user support. I would like to ask you when an official and stable version of a new release od Debian will be published. It's being worked on, hopefully not longer than a few months. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Validity of DFSG #10
On Du, 06 ian 13, 19:09:28, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 05:46:44PM +, Bart Martens wrote: How would you organize setting up an authoritative and maintained list of verified DFSG-free licenses ? Which formal steps would need to be completed before an additional license or license version would be added to the list ? How to deal with mistakes on the list ? Do we have sufficient volunteers with sufficient legal knowledge to maintain such list ? Maybe this part should be dealt with further on debian-legal. Hold on :-) All you're discussing here already exists. FTP masters vet software that enters the archive, de facto deciding whether the associated licenses are DFSG free or not. I didn't want to imply that we should change anything of that. We should rather consolidate the work they do and index licenses, decisions, and rationales for such decisions in a central place that people can look at. I haven't asked, but I suspect FTP masters have already enough on their plates to be interested in doing the publishing/indexing work too. But it's something that anyone can pick up, possibly agreeing on FTP masters on a way of being notified of new decisions. As far as I know, when a software is rejected the Maintainer receives an e-mail notification. Assuming such message has at least minimal information and it is CCd somewhere public (e.g. the ITP bug or debian-legal) others could pick it up and propose a patch to w.d.o/legal/licenses to be acknowledged by ftpmasters. What do you think? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: privatsphähre
On Sb, 22 dec 12, 17:21:12, fab...@gmx.li wrote: Guten Abend, bitte entfernen Sie diesen Beitrag, oder entfernen Sie meinen Namen und email-adresse. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2005/12/msg01687.html http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/disclaimer lG, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A Broken Linux Link on Your Site - Follow-up
On Mi, 12 dec 12, 11:24:31, Erin Williams wrote: Hi Michele, Hi Erin, debian-project is a mailing list of the Debian Project. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/ I wanted to follow up with you and make sure you had received my email I sent a little bit ago regarding the broken link on your site debui.vlsm.org/releases/slink/alpha/ch-Systemvoraussetzungen.de.html which links to http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/. As far as I can tell that site is just a mirror of the www.debian.org site. If you are still updating your website, I have a similar resource that you can replace the broken link with if you are interested. Let me know! Link Replacement: http://www.learnstuff.com/running-linux-on-your-computer/ You could post this to debian-www instead, however slink is a very old release and the document containing the link is from 1999! Thanks, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Opinion on Debian documentation
On Sb, 01 dec 12, 11:57:05, Osamu Aoki wrote: 2. Debian web site This is the pages accessible as www.debian.org and mostly managed by people discussing on debian-...@lists.debian.org . Actual contents are managed by CVS at :ext:usern...@cvs.debian.org:/cvs/webwml as explained http://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs These are static web pages generated by webwml. Most translation using PO system to keep them in sync. Its write access is limited to alioth webwml member : https://alioth.debian.org/projects/webwml/ Just a minor correction: POs are used only for a few parts of the website (menu items, footers, etc.) the bulk of a translation consists of equivalent webwml pages for the respective language. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Opinion on Debian documentation
On Mi, 28 nov 12, 20:25:17, Alexandru Vochescu wrote: Hi, I am working at a task at google code-in where i have to write about documentation structure of other projects. I chose to write about Debian, because i'm used to Debian (I have Debian Sid). And this task also says plus finding a way of determining the project's opinion of their documentation (a docs@ mailinglist might be a good start) , so , can you tell me what's your opinion of Debian documentation? ( I would apreciate very much if you can reply me in less then a day . That's my deadline for the task). Link to the task: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7953209 . You probably should contact debian-doc about this. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bug#686481: debian-reference instructs users on how to install non-free software
On Lu, 03 sep 12, 22:14:44, Osamu Aoki wrote: I am reporting this bug because Stefano Zacchiroli has called for a free-ness assessment [2]. It is up to the package maintainer on how to proceed. So you are making me feel I am doing something DPL does not approve... But I can not find which specific comment of Zak provides such rationale for this strange bug report. Please state it clearly. Otherwise, I will close this bug report very soon. Hmm, my reading of this is: file the bugs, however, the maintainer still has the final word on severity and/or status (fix, wontfix, etc.) as per normal Debian Way (tm). Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo
On Mi, 28 mar 12, 20:56:31, Kumar Appaiah wrote: The current default for some browsers in Debian informs webmasters about which browser is being used. The user can, naturally, change it to suit his/her needs. How does merely using this string to track hits to DDG (with no changes to the default user-agent) change anything for the user? They can track us anyway, right now, right? According to their Privacy Policy they intentionally don't https://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html#s3 Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: revenue sharing agreement with DuckDuckGo
On Jo, 29 mar 12, 09:04:16, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: On Thu, March 29, 2012 04:27, Paul Wise wrote: Probably you missed the part of the email that says we should add t=debian by default to every new DDG search URL? I would suggest that it should be up to the users what t= should be set to when sending search requests to DDG, not Debian. I'm surprised by the notion that merely sending the string 'debian' to the search engine is construed to be detrimental of my privacy. While indeed hypothetically sharing some bit of information, it's rather high-level information about somebody which I really doubt would influence anyone's life in any meaningful way if it's 'leaked'. Interestingly DDG thinks otherwise https://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html#s1 http://donttrack.us/ Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: trademark licenses and DFSG: a summary
On Du, 19 feb 12, 19:56:11, Uoti Urpala wrote: Stefano Zacchiroli leader at debian.org writes: - Debian should neither seek nor accept trademark licenses that are specific to the Debian Project. (Suggested by Steve Langasek. In addition to Steve's reasoning, I think that doing otherwise would go against the underlying principle of DFSG §8 License Must Not Be Specific to Debian.) I think this one is questionable. Ideally, a trademark is about trust - it tells the user that the product meets the quality requirements of the trademark owner. A trademark owner may trust the processes used by the Debian project to produce results that meet their quality criteria, and may be able to monitor the versions actually released by Debian and withdraw the right to use the trademark should Debian change in a direction that harms users. There's no way a trademark owner would trust random people or organizations they don't even know about, nor is it possible to maintain quality control over those. Thus, I think it would make sense to have arrangements allowing Debian specifically to modify the software in ways deemed necessary by the project without asking permission for each individual change. Downstreams would have to either distribute the code unchanged, seek a similar arrangement with the trademark owner, or rebrand. This would be a major pain for derived distributions, as they would not be able to rely on Debian main to be redistributable (with changes) as is. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Etch - Pre R0
Hi, debian-project is not about technical support, please contact debian-user instead (Reply-To: set accordingly). To your question: On Jo, 23 iun 11, 06:50:54, Greg Heath wrote: Hi, I have a client that appears to be running a pre-release or beta release of Etch R0, the date on the build is July 2006. I am not able to find a corresponding version within your archive database. Try setting your sources.list to archive.debian.org and update to latest etch. Then, read the corresponding Release Notes and upgrade to lenny and afterwards squeeze, the current stable release. However, you might find it easier to just install squeeze from scratch. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Privacy matter
On Ma, 24 mai 11, 16:23:19, Reese Newell wrote: This link on facebook is nothing I have ever done and I want it to be removed immediately from showing up in searches, can you please remove it from your website. It is deragatory and I do not want it showing up with my name on google. Congratulations, by posting the link you just increased the google rank for it. As to your request: - it seems to be a name coincidence - The Debian Project has no control over mail-archive.com - as far as I can tell the message has already been removed from the Debian bug log. Regards, Andrei - not speaking on behalf of Debian -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No good user experience of Debian (Was: Packaging r-bioc-simpleaffy)
On Ma, 01 mar 11, 00:37:23, Tony Travis wrote: Together with my colleagues, I arranged a biologist's 'power' user workshop in Florence during which we spent one of the three days in a University computer lab set up entirely with Debian Etch workstations running Iceweasel, to connect as NX clients to NuGO-Linux servers. And you are aware, of course, that Etch is End of Life since one year... Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DEP5: CANDIDATE and ready for use in squeeze+1
On Vi, 14 ian 11, 08:56:16, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 03:20:37AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: and it's ok by Policy, then I'd be happy to apply a patch someone provides. :) Here is one. Index: dep5.mdwn === --- dep5.mdwn (revision 157) +++ dep5.mdwn (working copy) @@ -149,12 +149,14 @@ will usually be written as a list of RFC5822 addresses or URIs. * **`Source`** - * Required + * Optional * Syntax: formatted text, no synopsis * An explanation from where the upstream source came from. Typically this would be a URL, but it might be a free-form explanation. If the upstream source has been modified to remove - non-free parts, that should be explained in this field. + non-free parts, that should be explained in this field. This field + is mandatory for non-native Debian packages; it can be omitted for + native Debian packages. * **`Disclaimer`** * Optional Whatever the end result, IMVHO by putting the mandatory in the description it is quite likely that people will just not see it. I would suggest something like: Required, except for Debian native packages Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: QTS ( was Re: user support - Shapado instance for Debian)
On Jo, 07 oct 10, 03:33:08, Fernando C. Estrada wrote: track experts by tag: shapado automatically detects people that are experts in some fields. That is to say, if you answer a question about “kde” or “ruby” and get some upvotes, shapado will notice it. Then, if a question gets asked about “kde” or “ruby”, shapado will notify you so you can help people faster (the notification is opt-in). Can a regular user interact with Shapado just like with a mailing-list? At least the question and answer part, though voting up and down would also be great. Yes, I spend a lot of time on mailing lists mainly because I don't particularly like web interfaces. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: QTS ( was Re: user support - Shapado instance for Debian)
On Jo, 07 oct 10, 19:02:39, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: You ask a question, and someone answers. If you find the answer useful, you vote it as correct, and the answerer gets points for that. How can I do that by mail only? You also get email notifications if you so wish if you got a new answer. Go have a look and see (ask.debian.net). It's quite a good idea. I already have and have seen similar webapps before, but I'm looking for a way to not use the web interface at all, like with the BTS (which doesn't even have a web interface). Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: QTS ( was Re: user support - Shapado instance for Debian)
On Mi, 06 oct 10, 21:42:37, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: One solution: all package maintainers subscribe to debian-user, and set filters on their respective packages. Would this be sub-optimal? Unfortunately yes. In too many cases it is impossible to tell from the subject (or even body) if a specific message is related to a specific package. Even if you could, for some packages (think Gnome or Iceweasel) you would hit the same problem as with bugs: too many to sort... Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#595217: Please create a debian-upstream list to serve as upstream guide and front desk
Package: lists.debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-project@lists.debian.org On Jo, 02 sep 10, 07:13:58, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On ke, 2010-09-01 at 19:27 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: Unless you consider it's necessary to be a DD for this I could join as well. After all, I spend *a lot* of time reading Debian mailing lists and I have become familiar with a lot of processes. It's time I put this to some good use :-) I see no reason to restrict this to DDs only. It should be a public list, with public archives. Well, maybe it's time to file the wishlist bug then ;) Dear listmasters, Please create a list debian-upstream to be used as a contact point for upstreams who want/need to get in touch with Debian. For the rationale see the thread starting at http://lists.debian.org/1281489432.2264.10.ca...@havelock Short description: Contact point for upstream developers Long description: A contact point for developers of software packages already present in Debian or not who want/need to get in touch with Debian. Category: developers Subscription policy: open Post policy: open Web archive: yes Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Upstream guide and front desk
On Mi, 01 sep 10, 11:41:34, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Aug 23, 2010, at 17:01, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Hi! Am 15.08.2010 18:08, schrieb Lars Wirzenius: That sounds like a good idea. As long as I would not be alone, I would be willing to join such a list and answer questions from our upstreams. That's two of us. Anyone else who'd like to help? That sounds like a really good idea. You can count me in :) A terrific idea. I would like to help as well. Unless you consider it's necessary to be a DD for this I could join as well. After all, I spend *a lot* of time reading Debian mailing lists and I have become familiar with a lot of processes. It's time I put this to some good use :-) I'm also involved in l10n for Debian, which might be good knowledge to bring to this list. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Please set a /topic or similar for #debian-ro on Freenode
[Please keep -l10n-romanian in the loop] Hello, While the official Debian channels are those at OFTC, many people seem to use (only) Freenode. This is not a problem with channels like #debian with hundreds of participants in both networks, but can be a big issue for emerging communities. Because of this I would like to have some means to suggest using #debian-ro in OFTC rather than Freenode. Currently I'm running a bot telling people joining that they should switch to OFTC, but I don't like to spam people. I also tried using to bot to redirect, but it's very annoying for people present in both :( Probably some /topic would be nicer or maybe there's an even better way (I'm not very familiar with IRC), but according to Freenode staff such settings have to be done/requested by the GC of the respective group. A quick web search found[1] but I thought I ask here first before writing to lea...@d.o [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2004/03/msg00435.html Thanks for reading, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Please set a /topic or similar for #debian-ro on Freenode
On Lu, 09 aug 10, 12:18:07, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Because of this I would like to have some means to suggest using #debian-ro in OFTC rather than Freenode. Currently I'm running a bot telling people joining that they should switch to OFTC, but I don't like to spam people. I also tried using to bot to redirect, but it's very annoying for people present in both :( Probably some /topic would be nicer or maybe there's an even better way (I'm not very familiar with IRC), but according to Freenode staff such settings have to be done/requested by the GC of the respective group. A quick web search found[1] but I thought I ask here first before writing to lea...@d.o [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2004/03/msg00435.html The current group contact for Freenode is me. Ive just asked someone from freenode staff to get me the channel, we can then see what to do. Thanks :) (Note im travelling tuesday - wednesday. I'll be mostly away until next week as well, but maybe I might have internet access during the weekend. Regards, Andrei -- http://nuvreauspam.ro/2010/05/4-neticheta-pe-mail/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian ISOs available for very fast download
On Thu,20.May.10, 21:54:22, David Voisin wrote: The platform is a mix between central server and pear to pear. There are various machines on the web that we actually own (but this could be extended to any computer willing to share on internet) that contain the various ISO blocks, and a central server that knows where every block is stored. The difference with bittorrent is that you do not have the communication between the seeds which consume your bandwith, you do not share your blocks (no upload) and you do not depend on the seeds disponibility. The ISOs proposed are always available, and if we need new servers it is easy to add new servers. Sounds like a distributed jigdo ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian ISOs available for very fast download
On Fri,21.May.10, 10:58:41, Dirk Neumann wrote: Sounds like a distributed jigdo ;) Normal jigdo is already distributed: some packages are read from one mirror, some others from another mirror and some from your local harddisk/cdrom/dvdrom/bdrom/cf/... Sure, but: - you have to manually configure several sources - the downloads are not concurrent (if for example the current server doesn't have enough bandwidth to fill mine) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Questions about present Gnome and the Linux kernel versions
On Tue,07.Jul.09, 15:59:10, Kumar Appaiah wrote: P. S. I'd request someone who knows more than me to please write an FAQ answer for Why does Ubuntu have/do/... but not Debian? When will Debian have it?... type question. Something like this? http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#package-old Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re-thinking Debian membership
On Sat,25.Oct.08, 21:56:09, Manoj Srivastava wrote: If you are not voting or uploading packages, everythign else you do can be done without a maintainers hat on, so you do not need to be a DD. Does this mean you oppose to the concept of having non-packagers being members of the Debian Project? I do not think you are reading what I wrote. Actually I did, but it seems you didn't understand what I meant and since you were not alone I'll try to explain. Secondly, What exactly to these members of the project do, if they do not vote or upload packages? How are those activities any different from what non-members do? I was talking about Debian Members as persons with a right to vote, but not necessarily packagers. Another alternative to automatic mail/voting as a way of checking if these people are still active would be to have a personalized MIA timer. For a packager the best way would be to reset the timer based on the last upload, but for a translator maybe his last mail with a translation should count. I hope I explained it better this time. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re-thinking Debian membership
On Sat,25.Oct.08, 00:36:06, Aurelien Jarno wrote: My point is that if your only activity in Debian is periodically answering an automated email, I don't see the point of staying member of the project. How about this: every Debian Member chooses his own method of stating I am active in the Project. For a packager this could be an upload, for a translator it could be a new/updated translation (either by commit to a VCS or by sending it to some public mailing list),... whatever makes him so important for the Debian Project as to retain his membership. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re-thinking Debian membership
On Sat,25.Oct.08, 09:41:35, Manoj Srivastava wrote: If you are not voting or uploading packages, everythign else you do can be done without a maintainers hat on, so you do not need to be a DD. Does this mean you oppose to the concept of having non-packagers being members of the Debian Project? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Developer Status
On Fri,24.Oct.08, 14:31:42, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: contributor.debian.org mail --- We are considering to implement an @contributor.debian.org mail forwarding setup which would be open for DC/DM too. Such addresses would continue to be valid even after a person becomes a DD/DME. If sufficient support for the idea is found then this will probably be implemented once the new debian.org mail setup is in place. I don't like contributor. we need a short term. +1 Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sound servers for Debian 4.0r3 i386
On Sun,05.Oct.08, 00:35:18, Michael Banck wrote: On Sat, Oct 04, 2008 at 08:33:26PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: Please post the exact error message you get (if any) when you run mpg123. It might help to turn off any KDE/Gnome specific sound handling as they sometimes block the device and may prevent each other from playing any sounds. debian-projects is not the contact address to report bugs, please do not encourage people doing so by asking for feedback to their reports. Oups, thought this was debian-user. Should be more careful when reading my mails... Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian v 4.0r3 cd iso images
On Sb,04.oct.08, 09:24:19, César Bergara wrote: I had download some 4.0r3 cds version for i386 architecture, but i need to download the iso-image cd-19. Are there websites with the olds stable version? I did like to download the sources codes (of the 4.0r3 version, too). If you have regularly upgraded you are already running 4.0r4 so just download the respective CDs for 4.0r4. If your Debian computer is not connected to the internet you should get the upgrade CD first and upgrade your installation to r4. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sound servers for Debian 4.0r3 i386
On Sb,04.oct.08, 09:30:15, César Bergara wrote: The downloades cds of Debian 4.0r3, have a problem: the sound server (alsa) have a problem and can't play sounds (of kde's soft or gnome's soft, but xmms play sounds; but mpg123 don't). [nitpick: alsa rather represents a driver, esd (for Gnome) and arts for KDE) are sound servers] Please post the exact error message you get (if any) when you run mpg123. It might help to turn off any KDE/Gnome specific sound handling as they sometimes block the device and may prevent each other from playing any sounds. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how can I boot from USB? or with Live CD?
[Redirecting to d-user] On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 05:29:16PM +0200, Ginis.com wrote: hello, my name is George... I have Windows XP... how can I boot from USB? or with Live CD? other 2 linux I have boot from USB... I wait for your answer... if you want... thanks a lot... What do you mean by other 2 linux, different computers? You must give more details for us to answer your question. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
