Re: tracking our readers? (Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts)
Hello Karsten, On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 06:42PM +02, Karsten Merker wrote: > As a personal note: compared to my email client I find the > discourse web interface very unwieldly and impractical (like most > web forums). This is of course a matter of taste and personal > preferences, but exactly that is an important point. With > mailinglists everybody can use a client that suits one's personal > preferences, while web-based systems inevitably force a > particular user interface onto every user. This one interface > naturally cannot fit everbody's personal preferences and > therefore makes the task of following and taking part in > discussions actually harder for a significant number of people > compared to performing the same tasks on a mailinglist. Just on this point, if there's sufficient API stability, then there is the possibility of developing other clients for Discourse. Making them operable offline would be a lot of work though. -- Sean Whitton signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: tracking our readers? (Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts)
Hello, On Tue 14 Apr 2020 at 08:22AM +00, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: >> > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to >> > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and >> > time >> > spent on reading by users. >> [1] >> https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-does-post-tracking-work-in-discourse/115790 > > thanks for pointing this out, Sean. This makes even using discourse > inaccepable to me, sorry. > > I also wonder where we will store this private data of our users, how > we will protect it and how users can request their data to be deleted. Just a note that the text Holger quoted is from Mathias Behrle's e-mail, not mine -- and he should have credit for having noticed this. I just Googled a bit. -- Sean Whitton signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: tracking our readers? (Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts)
On Apr 14, 2020, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > > > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to > > > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and > > > time > > > spent on reading by users. > > [1] > > https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-does-post-tracking-work-in-discourse/115790 > > thanks for pointing this out, Sean. This makes even using discourse > inaccepable to me, sorry. > > I also wonder where we will store this private data of our users, how > we will protect it and how users can request their data to be deleted. The only correct answer is /dev/null. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: tracking our readers? (Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts)
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 08:22:22AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > > > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to > > > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and > > > time > > > spent on reading by users. > > [1] > > https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-does-post-tracking-work-in-discourse/115790 > > thanks for pointing this out, Sean. This makes even using discourse > inaccepable to me, sorry. I think the problem isn't tracking itself. I'd trust Debian blindly in that :-) For me, the problem is the kind of anti-pattern promoted by this. > I also wonder where we will store this private data of our users, how > we will protect it and how users can request their data to be deleted. AsI said -- I'd espect Debian to not even collect that data. But even considering use a tool whose makers subscribe to that way of thinking seems iffy to me. Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature
