Re: maintainer field

2007-09-06 Thread Carl Fürstenberg
On 9/6/07, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > > So I myself chose to be among Uploaders and set Maintainer to DPMT,
> > > > because this more enforces team work and I like team work.
> >
> > > I had a discussion on #debian-devel about this, and "they" thought it
> > > was pretty stupid to have DPMT as uploader, as it would make every
> > > package NMU.
> >
> > No, what was said was that it was meaningless to list a mailing list in the
> > Uploaders field because a mailing list can never do an upload and therefore
> > it misses the /point/ of the Uploaders field.
>
> The only (good) reason of listing the mailing list in the Uploaders field is 
> to
> have the package in the group's QA page:
> http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Cheers,
> --
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They will be in the groups qa page also if the group are the maintainer.
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Re: maintainer field

2007-09-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > So I myself chose to be among Uploaders and set Maintainer to DPMT,
> > > because this more enforces team work and I like team work.
> 
> > I had a discussion on #debian-devel about this, and "they" thought it
> > was pretty stupid to have DPMT as uploader, as it would make every
> > package NMU.
> 
> No, what was said was that it was meaningless to list a mailing list in the
> Uploaders field because a mailing list can never do an upload and therefore
> it misses the /point/ of the Uploaders field.

The only (good) reason of listing the mailing list in the Uploaders field is to
have the package in the group's QA page:
http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers,
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog

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Re: maintainer field

2007-09-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:06:56PM +0200, Carl Fürstenberg wrote:
> On 9/6/07, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > This is certainly my preference. It's much clearer if there is *one*
> > > person named as the responsible party for the packages.

> > > It's a fact of human psychology that if a collective group is named as
> > > the responsible party, then nobody in that group feels particularly
> > > responsible. This is one reason why groups nominate a leader: it gives
> > > that person a stake in seeing the group's efforts succeed.

> > That's right, on the other hand I think philoshophy here at DPMT is
> > that if the maintainer is set to DPMT, anyone can make any change and
> > upload. If I am set as the maintainer, I should approve all the
> > changes - but that can be slow (I can be out of town, I can be busy,
> > etc.).

> > So I myself chose to be among Uploaders and set Maintainer to DPMT,
> > because this more enforces team work and I like team work.

> I had a discussion on #debian-devel about this, and "they" thought it
> was pretty stupid to have DPMT as uploader, as it would make every
> package NMU.

No, what was said was that it was meaningless to list a mailing list in the
Uploaders field because a mailing list can never do an upload and therefore
it misses the /point/ of the Uploaders field.

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Re: maintainer field

2007-09-06 Thread Carl Fürstenberg
On 9/6/07, Ondrej Certik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is certainly my preference. It's much clearer if there is *one*
> > person named as the responsible party for the packages.
> >
> > It's a fact of human psychology that if a collective group is named as
> > the responsible party, then nobody in that group feels particularly
> > responsible. This is one reason why groups nominate a leader: it gives
> > that person a stake in seeing the group's efforts succeed.
>
> That's right, on the other hand I think philoshophy here at DPMT is
> that if the maintainer is set to DPMT, anyone can make any change and
> upload. If I am set as the maintainer, I should approve all the
> changes - but that can be slow (I can be out of town, I can be busy,
> etc.).
>
> So I myself chose to be among Uploaders and set Maintainer to DPMT,
> because this more enforces team work and I like team work.
>
> Ondrej
>
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I had a discussion on #debian-devel about this, and "they" thought it
was pretty stupid to have DPMT as uploader, as it would make every
package NMU. Though also that the fields in control are pretty stupid,
and I had idea to change it, pretty much of them waht's to maintain
the status quo.

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