Re: pyupgrade has been packaged + request to join the team

[Joshua Peisach]

Update: I have also packaged a fork of python-patch that is better maintained 
to close #845482, which is visible at 
https://salsa.debian.org/ItzSwirlz-guest/python-patch-ng. I've decided to set 
the team as Maintainer and me as Uploader this time, as I figured I would still 
technically be a maintainer if I was part of the team. As soon as pyupgrade 
gets its initial release I will do the same.

-Josh


From: Joshua Peisach
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 4:44 PM
To: debian-python@lists.debian.org 
Subject: pyupgrade has been packaged + request to join the team

Hello everyone,

Quick introduction about myself: I maintain the Ubuntu Cinnamon Remix and 
highly respect Debian (it's what everything is built off of). Norbert Preining 
recently stepped down as Cinnamon maintainer for KDE, and now we are sort of in 
a limbo state with me and Fabio Fantoni. However, neither of us are able to 
pass the NM process, primarily due to GPG keys/lack of contributions/work to 
Debian. Although I had a higher chance, and was able to maintain it longer, we 
are behind on the latest version, and I pretty much seemed to have no interest 
in the BTS. My previous RFS's was a handful of Nemo extensions, which happened 
to be at the time Bullseye freeze depression struck, and they were all expired. 
Now I'm trying to package things to rack up some contributions to Debian (and 
Ubuntu in that vein) by packaging more things.

Anyways, personal story aside, so everyone knows where I'm coming from (because 
you won't find me on contributors.debian.org), the point of this is to announce 
I've packaged pyupgrade, a "tool to automatically upgrade syntax for newer 
versions". I was told at the DebConf BoF on etherpad to request to join the 
team, and then I can RFS, so here are my questions.


  1.  Can I be the maintainer for pyupgrade and have the team as an uploader? 
I'm asking this because the wiki mentions rule of thumb is the team maintaining 
to find a 'knowledgeable person'.
  2.  Can I join the team and later move pyupgrade to the python-team repos? 
This way I can still upload my package(s, and more as I heard some help is 
needed for pip at the BoF), and get contributions in for my NM.
  3.  When I join, for the initial release: can the git repo still be my 
personal salsa repo and use pypi? This way I can just get it pushed, and then 
later it can be adjusted to pull from a GitHub tag and moved to the team.

Even after I get my maintainership for Cinnamon, I still want to stay a part of 
the python-team because I use a lot of it and would love to help the team.

So, with that being said, can I join the team, how should I carry the initial 
release out? Let me know when you are ready for me to open an RFS.

This closes Debbug 
#988658. Repo is 
https://salsa.debian.org/ItzSwirlz-guest/pyupgrade
[https://salsa.debian.org/assets/gitlab_logo-7ae504fe4f68fdebb3c2034e36621930cd36ea87924c11ff65dbcb8ed50dca58.png]
Joshua Peisach / pyupgrade
A tool (and pre-commit hook) to automatically upgrade syntax for newer versions 
of the language.
salsa.debian.org


-Josh

Re: How should learning to program in Python be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

[Susmita/Rajib]

Apologise, Mr. Pokoradi and Mr. Riepl. Thank you very much for your
inputs on PyCharm and PyPi respectively, which i initially overlooked,
as the change in month caused a change in the Thread Index Page.

Best,
Rajib

Re: How should learning to program in Python be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

[Sandro Tosi]

Rajib,
thanks for your enthusiasm in learning python, but please note this
mailing list is dedicated to "Discussion of issues related to Python
on Debian systems with a stress on packaging standards. Therefore
relevant for maintainers of Python related packages.", while it
appears you have general Python questions unrelated to packaging. so
please look for help with them on a Python support channel as reported
at https://www.python.org/about/help/

Regards,
Sandro

On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 7:24 AM Susmita/Rajib  wrote:
>
> Thank you, Ms. Causey and Mr. van Baal-Ilić, for your posts.
>
> I am retaining the same subject line to avoid cluttering of my subsequent 
> posts.
>
> It appears that the Python books by Zed A Shaw are diversifying,
> spreading out. From Learn Python The Hard Way, Addison-Wesley, 2013
> ed., to Learn Python 3 the Hard Way, Addison-Wesley, 2017 to  Learn
> More Python 3 the Hard Way, Addison-Wesley, 2017.
>
> So Python 3 and More Python 3 should be appropriate. But I begin to
> suspect authors who try to replicate their 'success with one book'
> with more number of similar books.
>
> My query regarding a huge repository for Python like the Oracle Java
> repository, including example codes, structured information and object
> library still remains unattended.
>
> Did any software/IT company like Oracle take up the responsibility to
> erect such a meticulous construct bit by bit, or are such construct
> yet to materialise?
>
> I have been using Bluefish to edit html files (simple edits), so I am
> conversant with Bluefish editor. I also have the information regarding
> Pycharm. So all set.
>
> Just waiting for the last mile information, as asked in this post
> above and the earlier one with threat ref.
> .../debian-python/2021/08/msg00033.html
>
> Best
> Rajib
>


-- 
Sandro "morph" Tosi
My website: http://sandrotosi.me/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
Twitter: https://twitter.com/sandrotosi

Re: How should learning to program in Python be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

[Susmita/Rajib]

Thank you, Ms. Causey and Mr. van Baal-Ilić, for your posts.

I am retaining the same subject line to avoid cluttering of my subsequent posts.

It appears that the Python books by Zed A Shaw are diversifying,
spreading out. From Learn Python The Hard Way, Addison-Wesley, 2013
ed., to Learn Python 3 the Hard Way, Addison-Wesley, 2017 to  Learn
More Python 3 the Hard Way, Addison-Wesley, 2017.

So Python 3 and More Python 3 should be appropriate. But I begin to
suspect authors who try to replicate their 'success with one book'
with more number of similar books.

My query regarding a huge repository for Python like the Oracle Java
repository, including example codes, structured information and object
library still remains unattended.

Did any software/IT company like Oracle take up the responsibility to
erect such a meticulous construct bit by bit, or are such construct
yet to materialise?

I have been using Bluefish to edit html files (simple edits), so I am
conversant with Bluefish editor. I also have the information regarding
Pycharm. So all set.

Just waiting for the last mile information, as asked in this post
above and the earlier one with threat ref.
.../debian-python/2021/08/msg00033.html

Best
Rajib