Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
On Friday, May 01, 2015 01:28:43 PM Luca Falavigna wrote: 2015-04-26 18:26 GMT+02:00 Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org: Would it be better to start filing a MBF against the affected packages Is there consensus about this MBF? I'd like to work on it on the coming days, so please express your thoughts or doubts ASAP :-) I'm all for it, but debian-devel is the right venue for the final pre-MBF discussion. Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/39739470.MbQ4Q8sBDs@kitterma-e6430
Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 21:09:16 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: I am also in favor of removing python-support. It doesn't have any obvious bugs but having several helpers is confusing. pybuild + dh should be used for most packages. pybuild+dh is entirely orthogonal to python-support. I guess you meant dh_python2... Cheers, Julien -- Julien Cristau julien.cris...@logilab.fr Logilab http://www.logilab.fr/ Informatique scientifique gestion de connaissances -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150427092011.gc1...@sh76.dev.logilab.fr
Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
❦ 27 avril 2015 11:20 +0200, Julien Cristau julien.cris...@logilab.fr : I am also in favor of removing python-support. It doesn't have any obvious bugs but having several helpers is confusing. pybuild + dh should be used for most packages. pybuild+dh is entirely orthogonal to python-support. I guess you meant dh_python2... Yes. -- Make input easy to prepare and output self-explanatory. - The Elements of Programming Style (Kernighan Plauger) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
Ciao Sandro, 2015-04-27 14:20 GMT+02:00 Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org: which is only in sid only because of sparc and its bd-uninstallable Nice catch! I'll change the query to make sure to include newest sources only. the list doesnt remove duplicates: $ tail -n+3 ~/Downloads/python-support | head -n-2 | cut -d' ' -f2 | sort -u | wc -l 415 That could be because of affected packages uploaded to both unstable and experimental. I'm not sure whether to have two separate bugs for those, or just one. Cheers, Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadk7b0mvkpe6xc0bhgsjctfysuz8evywztogpw1m0qw88rp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
2015-04-26 18:26 GMT+02:00 Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org: I'd be available to identify the affected packages and eventually filing all the bugs. TTBOMK, dak knows about these packages, see attachment. We should be around 428 packages (hence, bugs). Cheers, Luca python-support Description: Binary data
Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
TTBOMK, dak knows about these packages, see attachment. We should be around 428 packages (hence, bugs). your list reports: matplotlib | 1.3.1-2 which is only in sid only because of sparc and its bd-uninstallable $ rmadison -S matplotlib | grep 1.3.1-2 matplotlib | 1.3.1-2 | sid | source python-matplotlib | 1.3.1-2 | sid | sparc so likely the list is shorter. additionally, the list doesnt remove duplicates: $ tail -n+3 ~/Downloads/python-support | head -n-2 | cut -d' ' -f2 | sort -u | wc -l 415 Regards, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAB4XWXxGAmpY+92=sfq6hq-wwp5m0xqrbajo4md5tp6zyc2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
2015-04-27 14:52 GMT+02:00 Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org: Nice catch! I'll change the query to make sure to include newest sources only. I already wrote an UDD query a couple of years ago, which I forgot ;-) https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/python_helpers.cgi That should list all the packages in a correct way. Cheers, Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADk7b0OC5Omh9rNGew0bocP=GHmtPAny-Kx=49m4OnaHU6=+c...@mail.gmail.com
Attempting to remove python-support?
Hi, now that Jessie has been released, and there's the intention to provide more support for Python 3 (e.g. paultag's mail to d-d-a), would it be time to start kicking out python-support from Debian as well? According to lintian, there should be about 500 packages still using python-support in a way or another, either (build)-depending on it or invoking dh_pysupport in debian/rules I think we reached the point whether lintian won't allow to reduce the number of packages considerably (the checks are in place for more than one year and a half, IIRC). Would it be better to start filing a MBF against the affected packages, so we can focus better on the target? I'd be available to identify the affected packages and eventually filing all the bugs. Cheers, Luca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadk7b0m_0m216k1zgvmeod6gaepp8v5qb5zjxbfxn4tccce...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
On Sunday 26 April 2015 21:09:16 Vincent Bernat wrote: I am also in favor of removing python-support. It doesn't have any obvious bugs but having several helpers is confusing. pybuild + dh should be used for most packages. +1 I have some packages[¹] that I want to migrate. I had some problem due to #577140: first time I used one of the patch in the comments but I did not remember witch. Unfortunately it seems also git-buildpackage doesn't play well with multiple upstream tarballs: #561071. This time I will patch svn-buildpackage or git-buildpackage and I will migrate them. Cheers, [¹] python-peak.rules, python-peak.util, decoratortools (the last one is not a multiple orig tarball, so it's easy). -- Daniele Tricoli 'Eriol' https://mornie.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Attempting to remove python-support?
❦ 26 avril 2015 18:26 +0200, Luca Falavigna dktrkr...@debian.org : now that Jessie has been released, and there's the intention to provide more support for Python 3 (e.g. paultag's mail to d-d-a), would it be time to start kicking out python-support from Debian as well? According to lintian, there should be about 500 packages still using python-support in a way or another, either (build)-depending on it or invoking dh_pysupport in debian/rules I think we reached the point whether lintian won't allow to reduce the number of packages considerably (the checks are in place for more than one year and a half, IIRC). Would it be better to start filing a MBF against the affected packages, so we can focus better on the target? I'd be available to identify the affected packages and eventually filing all the bugs. I am also in favor of removing python-support. It doesn't have any obvious bugs but having several helpers is confusing. pybuild + dh should be used for most packages. -- When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar signature.asc Description: PGP signature
