Re: Removing zope

2004-04-03 Thread Matthias Klose
Steve Langasek writes:
 On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 09:34:18PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 05:33:57AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
   For zope to be removed, one must also do this:
   remove zope-textindexng2/2.05-1
   remove zope-zpatterns/0.4.3p2-17
 
  Cc'ing the maintainers of those packages, as they have an obvious vested
  interest in keeping zope from being removed from sarge.  Any takers for
  NMU'ing (or MU'ing) zope to get these RC bugs fixed?  Time is short.
 
  also cc:ing the maintainers of the various other zope packages that
 are arch: all, and would also have to be removed in order for zope to be
 removed from testing.
 
 The total list of packages that must be removed if zope is not
 releasable with sarge is as follows:
 
 plone
 python-extclass
 qmtest

The zope maintainers seem to be quiet ... Please before removing
qmtest, let me separate out the python-extclass package from the zope
package.



Re: Removing zope

2004-04-03 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
* Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040403 12:25]:
 Steve Langasek writes:
  On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 09:34:18PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
   On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 05:33:57AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
For zope to be removed, one must also do this:
remove zope-textindexng2/2.05-1
remove zope-zpatterns/0.4.3p2-17
  
   Cc'ing the maintainers of those packages, as they have an obvious vested
   interest in keeping zope from being removed from sarge.  Any takers for
   NMU'ing (or MU'ing) zope to get these RC bugs fixed?  Time is short.
  
   also cc:ing the maintainers of the various other zope packages that
  are arch: all, and would also have to be removed in order for zope to be
  removed from testing.
  
  The total list of packages that must be removed if zope is not
  releasable with sarge is as follows:
  
  plone
  python-extclass
  qmtest
 
 The zope maintainers seem to be quiet ... Please before removing
 qmtest, let me separate out the python-extclass package from the zope
 package.

No reaction from Luca indeed, but Andrea is suggesting to upgrade to his
2.7.0-13 package. During the next week, I'll try and see if that sounds
possible and feasable without breaking to much other packages. Fixing
the grave bugs in 2.6.4 doesn't look impossible, but then, I really
don't like to mess with Luca's zopectl code...

Gregor



Re: Removing zope

2004-04-03 Thread Matthias Klose
Gregor Hoffleit writes:
 * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040403 12:25]:
  Steve Langasek writes:
   On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 09:34:18PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 05:33:57AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
 For zope to be removed, one must also do this:
 remove zope-textindexng2/2.05-1
 remove zope-zpatterns/0.4.3p2-17
   
Cc'ing the maintainers of those packages, as they have an obvious vested
interest in keeping zope from being removed from sarge.  Any takers for
NMU'ing (or MU'ing) zope to get these RC bugs fixed?  Time is short.
   
    also cc:ing the maintainers of the various other zope packages that
   are arch: all, and would also have to be removed in order for zope to be
   removed from testing.
   
   The total list of packages that must be removed if zope is not
   releasable with sarge is as follows:
   
   plone
   python-extclass
   qmtest
  
  The zope maintainers seem to be quiet ... Please before removing
  qmtest, let me separate out the python-extclass package from the zope
  package.
 
 No reaction from Luca indeed, but Andrea is suggesting to upgrade to his
 2.7.0-13 package. During the next week, I'll try and see if that sounds
 possible and feasable without breaking to much other packages. Fixing
 the grave bugs in 2.6.4 doesn't look impossible, but then, I really
 don't like to mess with Luca's zopectl code...

that would be great, to have plone-2.0 in sarge ...



Fixes in zopectl Re: Removing zope

2004-04-03 Thread David Coe
Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Gregor Hoffleit writes:
 * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040403 12:25]:
  Steve Langasek writes:
  
  The zope maintainers seem to be quiet ... Please before removing
  qmtest, let me separate out the python-extclass package from the zope
  package.
 
 No reaction from Luca indeed, but Andrea is suggesting to upgrade to his
 2.7.0-13 package. During the next week, I'll try and see if that sounds
 possible and feasable without breaking to much other packages. Fixing
 the grave bugs in 2.6.4 doesn't look impossible, but then, I really
 don't like to mess with Luca's zopectl code...

 that would be great, to have plone-2.0 in sarge ...

That's a great idea, though plone 2.0 doesn't actually *need* zope 2.7
(it works with 2.6 as well).

I'm fixing the remaining zope 'grave' bugs, all with small changes in
zopectl.  I'll NMU it tonight, I believe.  

QUESTION: is an NMU to unstable with priority high sufficient to get
this into testing, or do I have to upload to testing-proposed-updates
(or someplace else) as well?



Re: Fixes in zopectl Re: Removing zope

2004-04-03 Thread Matthias Klose
David Coe writes:
 Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Gregor Hoffleit writes:
  * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040403 12:25]:
   Steve Langasek writes:
   
   The zope maintainers seem to be quiet ... Please before removing
   qmtest, let me separate out the python-extclass package from the zope
   package.
  
  No reaction from Luca indeed, but Andrea is suggesting to upgrade to his
  2.7.0-13 package. During the next week, I'll try and see if that sounds
  possible and feasable without breaking to much other packages. Fixing
  the grave bugs in 2.6.4 doesn't look impossible, but then, I really
  don't like to mess with Luca's zopectl code...
 
  that would be great, to have plone-2.0 in sarge ...
 
 That's a great idea, though plone 2.0 doesn't actually *need* zope 2.7
 (it works with 2.6 as well).

OTOH, zope 2.7 does work with the recent python2.3.

just dreaming to drop python2.2 from unstable ... (python2.1 is still
needed for jython).

Matthias



Re: Removing zope

2004-04-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 12:22:27PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
 Steve Langasek writes:
  On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 09:34:18PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
   On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 05:33:57AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
For zope to be removed, one must also do this:
remove zope-textindexng2/2.05-1
remove zope-zpatterns/0.4.3p2-17
  
   Cc'ing the maintainers of those packages, as they have an obvious vested
   interest in keeping zope from being removed from sarge.  Any takers for
   NMU'ing (or MU'ing) zope to get these RC bugs fixed?  Time is short.
  
   also cc:ing the maintainers of the various other zope packages that
  are arch: all, and would also have to be removed in order for zope to be
  removed from testing.
  
  The total list of packages that must be removed if zope is not
  releasable with sarge is as follows:
  
  plone
  python-extclass
  qmtest

 The zope maintainers seem to be quiet ... Please before removing
 qmtest, let me separate out the python-extclass package from the zope
 package.

I would expect that if there isn't clear progress on fixing zope's
RC bugs within a week, I would be hinting it for removal, along with any
packages depending on it at that time.  If you are concerned that zope
won't be fixed in this time period, I would suggest you start working on
qmtest's dependencies immediately, so it can get back into testing ASAP.

Since there has been an NMU offer, I'm still hopeful it won't come to
that.

Thanks,
-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer


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Re: Fixes in zopectl Re: Removing zope

2004-04-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 11:55:18AM -0500, David Coe wrote:
 Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Gregor Hoffleit writes:
  * Matthias Klose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040403 12:25]:
   Steve Langasek writes:

   The zope maintainers seem to be quiet ... Please before removing
   qmtest, let me separate out the python-extclass package from the zope
   package.

  No reaction from Luca indeed, but Andrea is suggesting to upgrade to his
  2.7.0-13 package. During the next week, I'll try and see if that sounds
  possible and feasable without breaking to much other packages. Fixing
  the grave bugs in 2.6.4 doesn't look impossible, but then, I really
  don't like to mess with Luca's zopectl code...

  that would be great, to have plone-2.0 in sarge ...

 That's a great idea, though plone 2.0 doesn't actually *need* zope 2.7
 (it works with 2.6 as well).

 I'm fixing the remaining zope 'grave' bugs, all with small changes in
 zopectl.  I'll NMU it tonight, I believe.  

 QUESTION: is an NMU to unstable with priority high sufficient to get
 this into testing, or do I have to upload to testing-proposed-updates
 (or someplace else) as well?

Since testing has not been frozen, an upload to unstable is sufficient.
It will still take a few days to propagate, of course, but removing zope
from testing would be enough of a PITA that just about any progress at
all will be enough to convince me not to remove it. ;)

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer


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Re: Removing zope

2004-04-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 12:17:32PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
...
 I would expect that if there isn't clear progress on fixing zope's
 RC bugs within a week, I would be hinting it for removal, along with any
...

You are already hinting it for removal:

 * -zope (2.6.4-1 to -)
  + Removal request by vorlon
  + Package is broken, will try to remove


Only thanks to zope-textindexng2 and zope-zpatterns it wasn't already 
removed from testing.


 Thanks,
 Steve Langasek

cu
Adrian

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