Bug#526430: More information required.

2009-05-31 Thread Martin Hans
Hello,

please close the bug. I'm no longer able to reproduce the bug.

Yesterday I removed my whole kmail configuration. I wanted to test,
if it works, if I use only one IMAP account. Dropping the whole
configuration was the only way to test this, because I was not
able to start kmail anyway.

With the new configuration I can use both IMAP accounts and have no
more crashes. Even copying back the old configuration produces no
more crashes. The IMAP accounts are not the reason for the problems.
They where fully accessible by Thunderbird the whole time. I applied
no updates to the system since serveral days.

If the problem occurs again I will report it against the KDE bugzilla.

Best Regards

Martin

On Sunday 31 May 2009, Raúl Sánchez Siles wrote:
 tags 526430 +moreinfo
 thanks

   Hello:

   Thank you for reporting this bug. According to the information you
 provide it is likely a KDE bug, not Debian. Moreover you would need to
 install some debug packages like: kdepim-dbg libqt4-dbg

   When you have those installed you would need to reproduce the crash and
 take note of the new details (backtrace) of the crash.

   Since Debian resources for handling KDE bugs are scarce, it would be very
 helpful if you could report the bug on the KDE bugzilla [0] after having
 taken a look of their advices on how to report with useful information [1]

   I suggest you first looking into [0] to check out whether the bug has
 already been reported or not, please note the KMail version you are using.
 If you follow this steps, we would appreciate if you could write back with
 the bug number you have filed in or found in the KDE bugzilla.

 [0] http://bugs.kde.org
 [1]
 http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Bugsquad/How_to_create_useful_crash_repo
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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Sune Vuorela
tag 531221 wontfix
thanks

On Sunday 31 May 2009 02:09:11 John Goerzen wrote:
 Package: okular
 Version: 4:4.2.2-2
 Severity: normal

 I'm CCing this to Debian-devel because I think it speaks to a larger
 issue.

 I just downloaded a PDF, and tried to copy and paste a bit of text
 from it.  I used the selection tool, and Okular offered to speak it to
 me, but said Copy forbidden by DRM.

So. you want Okular to by default help you with violating conditions of use of 
the document you downloaded?

Is the next step to make Debian help more active to by default violate the 
conditions of use of software?

If you download files with license issues that you don't like, I'm not sure you 
should blame it on the software use to view the files.

You even have a check box to make it possible for you to violate the 
conditions of use of the document if you really really want it.

 So what I want to know is: why are people putting code into Debian
 that limits our freedom?  Why are people putting such code into KDE?

 And can we please patch it to stop that?

Why are you downloading files that limits your freedom?


(I don't like DRM, but the right way to fight it is not to ignore the terms, 
but to get the people providing the content to stop using it)

/Sune
 - who are putting such code into Debian.



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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Pino Toscano
Hi,

  This means the author of the PDF set that users shouldn't (in their will)
  copy the text from their PDF.
  You can disable the usage of document permissions by disabling the
  related option from the preferences.

 I checked, and do see that option.  But why is it on by default?  Or
 even there at all?

Because Okular by default respect the PDF format.
Why it is there? Exactly to give you the freedom to choose, to respect both 
the ideas of people who just shiver at listening the DRM word, and people 
who make a use of that PDF feature.

   So what I want to know is: why are people putting code into Debian
   that limits our freedom?  Why are people putting such code into KDE?
 
  If you feel limited in your freedom, then go complaining about Adobe
  and the ISO 32000, aka the standardization of the PDF format, because, in
  case you don't know, those permissions are features of the PDF format,
  nothing Okular

 False.  I'm not running Adobe code on my system.

You're missing the point. It is not matter of Adobe code, but format which 
was totally in the hand of Adobe until one year ago (when ISO 32000 was 
standardized).

 It is entirely within the power of the developers
 of Okular to decide whether or not to implement this feature.

If tomorrow a corporate person complains that Okular does not respect the PDF 
format in that sense and that they cannot make use of it because of that, what 
should I tell them? They would be right.
Look, having the power of developers does not imply developers should feel 
like crackers, disabling restrictions just because they can or in the name of 
some freedom.

 The cheaper option in terms of developer time would have been to ignore
 that flag.

Speculating on what how we should had spent our time won't work, sorry.

  enforces on its own. And given that it is a feature of a file format just
  like annotations or sounds, people could use it (for example in corporate
  environments to avoid documents or parts of them being leaked or so).

 But we all know it's trivial to work around.  pdftotext will do it,
 and Okular will even do it if you untick that box.  It's no real
 security at all.  It's a bit in a file, not some sort of encryption
 scheme.  Why are we honoring it?

Because it is part of the file format, and some people can make use of it (as 
told just in the sentence you quoted)?

  The program is just following a file format in that regard AND providing
  the option to not to, so nothing to be fixed.

 Pfft.  You are causing incompatibility with nothing if you ignore that
 flag.  You are causing incompatibility with things if you honor it.
 What is the point to honoring it?

If everything we do cases problems, then I don't see how it is worth changing 
anything.

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Bug#524552: dependencies are approriate

2009-05-31 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:38:29PM -0400, Josh Metzler wrote:
 severity 524552 wishlist
 thanks
 
 Of the packages you list, only kdebase Depends on konqueror-nsplugins.  
 konqueror and the non-kde packages only Recommend it.
 
 kdebase is simply a metapackage designed to pull in all the binary packages 
 in 
 the kdebase kde module.  If you don't want konqueror-nsplugins installed, it 
 is fine to remove kdebase as well.

Not if I actually /want/ to keep kdebase though.  There's no need for it to have
a hard dependency on everything; it makes the system most inflexible.

It's pulled in via the konqueror recommends, which is perfectly sufficient to
get it installed.  kdebase doesn't need to have any dependency of any form on
konqueror-nsplugins.

 Could your konqueror-nsplugins crashing problem be due to having 
 gtk-qt-engine 
 installed - http://bugs.debian.org:80/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=513881 ?

Possibly, I'll remove it and see.  Thanks.


Regards,
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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 31 mai 2009 à 11:47 +0200, Pino Toscano a écrit :
 If tomorrow a corporate person complains that Okular does not respect the PDF 
 format in that sense and that they cannot make use of it because of that, 
 what 
 should I tell them? They would be right.

You tell them to enable the “feature” if they want to follow the dumb
spec. But you do not bother the 99.99% of people who don’t care about
that shit.

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 02:30:58AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
 I see it's been pointed out in a comment in your blog post already,
 but I'll mention it here for the benefit of those reading along:
 obeying DRM is a configurable runtime option in Okular, so it's just
 a matter of going to the preferences dialog and unchecking the Obey
 DRM check box.

I've just read Pino Toscano's answer, and I found it a reasonable
choice from an *upstream author point of view*. They want okular to
fully implement the spec, to be able to sell it as a feature.

Of course, downstream distribution editors (i.e., us) can make
different choices, to better implement the philosophy of their
distro. Considering that upstream already implemented the mechanism
for choosing at runtime, I see an easy way out.

- If okular has a system-wide setting Obey DRM which acts as a
  default for user choices, we have already won: the Debian package
  maintainer is fully in charge of making the choice of what that
  default should be.

- If it has not, I guess adding support for such system-wide setting
  should be easy enough to do.

FWIW If I were the package maintainer, my choice would be not to Obey
DRM by default, but I'm not.

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Bug#528937: [kdm] Background image with umlauts in file name doesn't display
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Bug#531311: [kmail] Crashed while sending (signed) mail - call stack included

2009-05-31 Thread Eike Sauer
Package: kmail
Version: 4:4.2.2-1
Severity: normal

--- Please enter the report below this line. ---
I tried to send a mail (about a KDE bug report...). 
I mistyped my signing pass phrase one, the second time 
I (guess I) got it right. When trying to send the mail, 
kmail crashed. Call stack is attached.

--- System information. ---
Architecture: i386
Kernel:   Linux 2.6.29-2-686-bigmem

Debian Release: squeeze/sid
   50 unstableftp.uni-kl.de 
   50 unstableftp.de.debian.org 
  150 testing security.eu.debian.org 
  150 testing ftp.uni-kl.de 
  150 testing ftp.de.debian.org 
  150 stable  volatile.debian.org 
  150 stable  security.eu.debian.org 
  150 stable  ftp.de.debian.org 
1 experimentalftp.de.debian.org 

--- Package information. ---
Depends   (Version) | Installed
===-+-==
kdebase-runtime(= 4:4.2.2) | 4:4.2.2-1
kdelibs5   (= 4:4.2.2) | 4:4.2.2-2
kdepimlibs5(= 4:4.2.2) | 4:4.2.2-1
libc6  (= 2.4) | 2.9-12
libgcc1(= 1:4.1.1) | 1:4.4.0-5
libkdepim4(= 4:4.2.2-1) | 4:4.2.2-1
libkleo4  (= 4:4.2.2-1) | 4:4.2.2-1
libkontactinterfaces4 (= 4:4.2.2-1) | 4:4.2.2-1
libkpgp4  (= 4:4.2.2-1) | 4:4.2.2-1
libksieve4(= 4:4.2.2-1) | 4:4.2.2-1
libmimelib4   (= 4:4.2.2-1) | 4:4.2.2-1
libphonon4 (= 4:4.3.0) | 4:4.3.1-1
libqt4-dbus  (= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqt4-network   (= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqt4-qt3support(= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqt4-xml   (= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqtcore4   (= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqtgui4(= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libstdc++6   (= 4.1.1) | 4.4.0-5
phonon (= 4:4.3.0) | 4:4.3.1-1
perl| 5.10.0-22


Recommends  (Version) | Installed
=-+-===
procmail  | 3.22-16


Suggests  (Version) | Installed
===-+-===
gnupg   | 1.4.9-4
gnupg-agent | 2.0.11-1
pinentry-qt | 0.7.5-3
 OR pinentry-x11| 
kaddressbook| 4:4.2.2-1
kleopatra   | 4:4.2.2-1
spamassassin| 3.2.5-4
 OR bogofilter  | 
 OR annoyance-filter| 
 OR spambayes   | 
 OR bsfilter| 
 OR crm114  | 
clamav  | 
 OR f-prot-installer| 





Anwendung: KMail (kmail), Signal SIGSEGV
[Current thread is 0 (LWP 4606)]

Thread 2 (Thread 0xab4feb90 (LWP 4638)):
#0  0xb7f61424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb63196c1 in select () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
#2  0xb6fd5920 in QProcessManager::run (this=0x8726cc0) at 
io/qprocess_unix.cpp:305
#3  0xb6f0480e in QThreadPrivate::start (arg=0x8726cc0) at 
thread/qthread_unix.cpp:189
#4  0xb54dc4e5 in start_thread () from /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
#5  0xb632121e in clone () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6

Thread 1 (Thread 0xb3e32710 (LWP 4606)):
[KCrash Handler]
#6  0x09c118b0 in ?? ()
#7  0xb7582705 in KMCommand::slotStart (this=0x9c24a50) at 
../../kmail/kmcommands.cpp:249
#8  0xb7572c03 in KMCommand::qt_metacall (this=0x9c24a50, 
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=4, _a=0xbfe7c6c8) at ./kmcommands.moc:85
#9  0xb75732e2 in KMReplyToCommand::qt_metacall (this=0x9c24a50, 
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=8, _a=0xbfe7c6c8) at ./kmcommands.moc:822
#10 0xb700db98 in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x9f69498, from_signal_index=4, 
to_signal_index=4, argv=0x0) at kernel/qobject.cpp:3120
#11 0xb700e822 in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x9f69498, m=0xb70e8ae8, 
local_signal_index=0, argv=0x0) at kernel/qobject.cpp:3194
#12 0xb7013027 in QSingleShotTimer::timeout (this=0x9f69498) at 
.moc/release-shared/qtimer.moc:76
#13 0xb701314c in QSingleShotTimer::timerEvent (this=0x9f69498) at 
kernel/qtimer.cpp:298
#14 0xb700804f in QObject::event (this=0x9f69498, e=0xbfe7cb4c) at 
kernel/qobject.cpp:1082
#15 0xb65fe7bc in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper (this=0x8727078, 
receiver=0x9f69498, e=0xbfe7cb4c) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:4057
#16 0xb6606ace in QApplication::notify (this=0xbfe7ce68, receiver=0x9f69498, 
e=0xbfe7cb4c) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:3604
#17 0xb7d8fb7d in KApplication::notify (this=0xbfe7ce68, receiver=0x9f69498, 
event=0xbfe7cb4c) at ../../kdeui/kernel/kapplication.cpp:307
#18 0xb6ff7a2b in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal (this=0xbfe7ce68, 
receiver=0x9f69498, event=0xbfe7cb4c) at kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp:610
#19 0xb7026e41 in QTimerInfoList::activateTimers (this=0x872988c) at 
../../include/QtCore/../../src/corelib/kernel/qcoreapplication.h:213
#20 0xb7023440 in timerSourceDispatch 

Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 31, Sune Vuorela s...@vuorela.dk wrote:

 So. you want Okular to by default help you with violating conditions of use 
 of 
 the document you downloaded?
Correct, this is what I would like it to do (but I use evince instead,
which by default does not bother users with this sillyness).
Users can still legally have rights even if they are forbidden by
license terms which are effectively void.
DRM deprives users of such rights.

 Is the next step to make Debian help more active to by default violate the 
 conditions of use of software?
I will offer an opinion about such a situation when this will actually
be proposed. Since I do not believe in following copyright as a
religious matter I cannot provide a blanket statement on this issue.

 You even have a check box to make it possible for you to violate the 
 conditions of use of the document if you really really want it.
It is being argued that it has an inconvenient default and that it is
not well documented. Properly documenting the existence of this
configuration option in the error dialog would go a long way in solving
this issue.

 Why are you downloading files that limits your freedom?
Why do you care?

 (I don't like DRM, but the right way to fight it is not to ignore the terms, 
 but to get the people providing the content to stop using it)
I don't like people who think they know better than me what I need.

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
Philipp Kern wrote:
 On 2009-05-31, Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org wrote:
 Both these propositions make the feature pointless. The only sensible
 options is to dump it entirely, as you are suggesting below.
 
 Actually an advisory dialog (which could be turned off) would make some sense.
 (The author of this PDF document didn't mean to allow you $foo, do you want
 to continue anyway?  Abort Continue)
 
 Then a) you are aware that there are restrictions on the document, so if
 you b) pass it on to people who cannot turn off DRM restrictions (like to
 print it for you) you can take additional action to strip DRM.

That would seem a quite reasonable compromise to me, as a default
option.  You can still have a checkbox in preferences for complete
enforcement if there is somebody that really wants it, and leave it off
by default.

What do you think, Pino?

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

 FWIW If I were the package maintainer, my choice would be not to Obey
 DRM by default, but I'm not.

Interestingly enough, we patch this stuff out of xpdf already, for
presumably the same reasons.  evince either never had it, or it is
patched out in Debian.  I would be happy with us patching okular to
simply have a different default on Debian.

In any case, I think it was very premature to tag this wontfix.  There
are many trivial things you could do to improve the situation, in order
of preference:

1) Remove the DRM feature entirely

2) Patch the default to have it disabled

3) Patch the prompt to have an allow/deny option

4) Patch the text to tell people where to go to turn it off

#2 and #4 especially should be exceptionally trivial patches.

Why are you tagging it wontfix, Sune?

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:32:25AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
 
 In any case, I think it was very premature to tag this wontfix. 
...

 Why are you tagging it wontfix, Sune?


I do not see this as premature at all. We, KDE maintainers, have talked 
about it and we all have decided we are ok as it is now. Then tagged your
wishlist report as wonfix accordingly.

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Bug#528937: [kdm]

2009-05-31 Thread Eike Sauer
Package: kdm
Version: 4:4.2.2-2

--- Please enter the report below this line. ---
Debian points me to upstream KDE,
and KDE points me to downstream Debian... :o)

Ok, I tried the hint from KDE: 
Setting LC_ALL in /etc/init.d/kdm works.

But isn't this a Debian bug nevertheless?
I called dpkg-reconfigure locales, and de_DE.UTF-8 is 
(and already was) my default locale, so I feel kdm should 
use it out of the box...

--- System information. ---
Architecture: i386
Kernel:   Linux 2.6.29-2-686-bigmem

Debian Release: squeeze/sid
   50 unstableftp.uni-kl.de 
   50 unstableftp.de.debian.org 
  150 testing security.eu.debian.org 
  150 testing ftp.uni-kl.de 
  150 testing ftp.de.debian.org 
  150 stable  volatile.debian.org 
  150 stable  security.eu.debian.org 
  150 stable  ftp.de.debian.org 
1 experimentalftp.de.debian.org 

--- Package information. ---
Depends   (Version) | Installed
===-+-==
kdebase-runtime(= 4:4.2.2) | 4:4.2.2-1
kdelibs5   (= 4:4.2.2) | 4:4.2.2-2
libc6  (= 2.3) | 2.9-12
libck-connector0 (= 0.2.1) | 0.3.0-2
libdbus-1-3  (= 1.0.2) | 1.2.12-1
libpam0g  (= 0.99.7.1) | 1.0.1-9
libqimageblitz4 | 1:0.0.4-4
libqt4-qt3support(= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqt4-svg   (= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqt4-xml   (= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqtcore4   (= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libqtgui4(= 4.4.3) | 4.5.1-2
libstdc++6   (= 4.1.1) | 4.4.0-5
libx11-6| 2:1.2.1-1
libxau6 | 1:1.0.4-2
libxdmcp6   | 1:1.0.2-3
libxtst6| 2:1.0.3-1
debconf   (= 0.5)  | 1.5.26
 OR debconf-2.0 | 
lsb-base(= 3.2-14) | 3.2-22
consolekit  | 0.3.0-2


Recommends   (Version) | Installed
==-+-===
logrotate  | 3.7.7-3
xserver-xorg-core  | 2:1.4.2-11
 OR xserver| 
kdebase| 4:4.2.2-1
 OR x-session-manager  | 
 OR x-window-manager   | 
xterm  | 
 OR x-terminal-emulator| 


Suggests   (Version) | Installed
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kdepasswd| 4:4.2.2-1








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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
Ana Guerrero wrote:
 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:32:25AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
 In any case, I think it was very premature to tag this wontfix. 
 ...
 
 Why are you tagging it wontfix, Sune?

 
 I do not see this as premature at all. We, KDE maintainers, have talked 
 about it and we all have decided we are ok as it is now. Then tagged your
 wishlist report as wonfix accordingly.

Could you share your reasoning with us, specifically why you don't like
each of the four options I mentioned?  (Reproduced below)

1) Remove the DRM feature entirely

2) Patch the default to have it disabled

3) Patch the prompt to have an allow/deny option

4) Patch the text to tell people where to go to turn it off

 
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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
Marco d'Itri wrote:
 On May 31, Sune Vuorela s...@vuorela.dk wrote:
 
 So. you want Okular to by default help you with violating conditions of use 
 of 
 the document you downloaded?
 Correct, this is what I would like it to do (but I use evince instead,
 which by default does not bother users with this sillyness).
 Users can still legally have rights even if they are forbidden by
 license terms which are effectively void.
 DRM deprives users of such rights.

While completely agreeing with you, Marco, I would like to add a couple
of points.

First off, this is just a flag, and is not really DRM in the sense we
normally understand it: some sort of encryption, etc.  It is easier to
write a PDF viewer that does not honor the flag than to write one that
does, since there is no decryption or anything needed.  Honoring the
flag is an optional feature, not a prerequisite.

The other point is that the flag has nothing to do with the law.  I can
perfectly well set a flag on a PDF that I generate for myself, and that
doesn't make it illegal to copy text out of the PDF I generate for
myself.  Similarly, just because someone sets the flag on a PDF they
give me, doesn't make it illegal to copy text from that PDF.  Copyright
law, at least in the USA, provides fair use rights to copy and
distribute small portions of a work.  Being able to cut and paste just
makes that process slightly faster.  And copyright law does not prevent
you from copying the entire thing, if you keep the result to yourself.
As, of course, cp and the KDE file manager can do (just keeping it in
the same format).

If it is illegal to do something with the document, that is orthogonal
to whether Okular obeys this flag by default, in my mind.

Okular is run by the Debian user.  As our social contract states, Our
priorities are our users and Free Software.  We can, and should, take
the high road on this and make sure our users have maximum functionality
by default.

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 09:05:10AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
 Ana Guerrero wrote:
  On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:32:25AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
  In any case, I think it was very premature to tag this wontfix. 
  ...
  
  Why are you tagging it wontfix, Sune?
 
  
  I do not see this as premature at all. We, KDE maintainers, have talked 
  about it and we all have decided we are ok as it is now. Then tagged your
  wishlist report as wonfix accordingly.
 
 Could you share your reasoning with us, specifically why you don't like
 each of the four options I mentioned?  (Reproduced below)
 
 1) Remove the DRM feature entirely
 
 2) Patch the default to have it disabled
 
 3) Patch the prompt to have an allow/deny option
 
 4) Patch the text to tell people where to go to turn it off


Where you offers solutions for a problem, I firstly do not see the problem.
Because for me the current default is ok. I consider this is a wishlist bug 
that 
does not bother me at all, if it did then i might use my time in patching it
and maintaining it in the future, but it is not the case. The only thing I can
do here is telling you this is a wontfix and that is what you got.

If you get upstream adding a notice here, I will be fine with that too, and 
debian 
will carry that.

Finally, I only took the time of answering firstly to the bug report because 
I thought you deserved to know we did not ignore you issue slightly and we 
packagers talked about it. But I am not going to mail further to this bug 
report 
just to say one time and again exaclty the same...


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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Hasler
John Goerzen writes:
 1) Remove the DRM feature entirely

Please don't call it DRM.  It's just advisory locking.  IMHO not enabling
it or omitting it entirely has no legal implications.

(I think it should be off by default with an option to turn it on but
that's just my irrelevant opinion.  I don't use the package.)
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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 31, John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote:

 Please don't call it DRM.  It's just advisory locking.  IMHO not enabling
 it or omitting it entirely has no legal implications.
It clearly has no legal implication (in jurisdictions having such a
clause, like the USA) because it is not an *effective* technological
protection measure.

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Pino Toscano
Hi,

 1) Remove the DRM feature entirely

This will not be done until ISO 32000 changes in that regard.

 2) Patch the default to have it disabled

Nope.

 3) Patch the prompt to have an allow/deny option

Which prompt are you speaking about?

 4) Patch the text to tell people where to go to turn it off

The text is currently shown as an entry in the popup menu of the page view.
Setting a long text in a popup menu is a big no-no in every HIG possible.

 Why are you tagging it wontfix, Sune?

Because KDE maintainers decided to not change anything, simply.

A final remark; John Hasler (and other people) wrote:
 (I think it should be off by default with an option to turn it on but
 that's just my irrelevant opinion.  I don't use the package.)

I'm just curious to know: if you don't use the package, how can you express an 
opinion on it? This for sure doesn't help about the current discussion.

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Clint Adams
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:32:25AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
 presumably the same reasons.  evince either never had it, or it is
 patched out in Debian.  I would be happy with us patching okular to

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Bug#526430: marked as done (kmail: Crash after login dialog)

2009-05-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

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and subject line Original reporter closing request.
has caused the Debian Bug report #526430,
regarding kmail: Crash after login dialog
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---BeginMessage---
Package: kmail
Version: 4:4.2.2-1
Severity: important


Hi,

some of the yesterday's debian updates makes kmail unusable for me.
After filling out both login dialogs of my two IMAP accounts kmail
chrashes with signal 11 (SIGSEGV).

The details:

Application: KMail (kmail), signal SIGSEGV
0xb638830c in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
[Current thread is 0 (LWP 5436)]

Thread 2 (Thread 0xad987b90 (LWP 5438)):
#0  0xb5592be8 in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from 
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0xb63c9794 in pthread_cond_timedwait () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0xb6f777fc in QWaitCondition::wait () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#3  0xb6f6cdb6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#4  0xb6f7680e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4
#5  0xb558ef50 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  0xb63bd63e in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6

Thread 1 (Thread 0xb3ee3af0 (LWP 5436)):
#0  0xb638830c in nanosleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0xb638812f in sleep () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0xb7e71738 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5
#3  0x in ?? ()

Best Regards

Martin

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Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.29.1 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: lang=de...@euro, lc_ctype=de...@euro (charmap=ISO-8859-15)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages kmail depends on:
ii  kdebase-runtime   4:4.2.2-1  runtime components from the offici
ii  kdelibs5  4:4.2.2-2  core libraries for all KDE 4 appli
ii  kdepimlibs5   4:4.2.2-1  core libraries for KDE PIM 4 appli
ii  libc6 2.9-9  GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libgcc1   1:4.3.3-8  GCC support library
ii  libkdepim44:4.2.2-1  KDE PIM library
ii  libkleo4  4:4.2.2-1  certificate based crypto library f
ii  libkontactinterfaces4 4:4.2.2-1  KDE Kontact interface library
ii  libkpgp4  4:4.2.2-1  gpg based crypto library for KDE
ii  libksieve44:4.2.2-1  KDE mail/news message filtering li
ii  libmimelib4   4:4.2.2-1  KDE mime library
ii  libphonon44:4.3.1-1  Phonon multimedia framework for Qt
ii  libqt4-dbus   4.5.1-1Qt 4 D-Bus module
ii  libqt4-network4.5.1-1Qt 4 network module
ii  libqt4-qt3support 4.5.1-1Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 
ii  libqt4-xml4.5.1-1Qt 4 XML module
ii  libqtcore44.5.1-1Qt 4 core module
ii  libqtgui4 4.5.1-1Qt 4 GUI module
ii  libstdc++64.3.3-8The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  perl  5.10.0-19  Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  phonon4:4.3.1-1  metapackage for Phonon multimedia 

Versions of packages kmail recommends:
ii  procmail  3.22-16Versatile e-mail processor

Versions of packages kmail suggests:
ii  bogofilter 1.2.0-2   a fast Bayesian spam filter (dummy
ii  clamav 0.95.1+dfsg-2 anti-virus utility for Unix - comm
ii  gnupg  1.4.9-4   GNU privacy guard - a free PGP rep
ii  gnupg-agent2.0.11-1  GNU privacy guard - password agent
pn  kaddressbook   none(no description available)
ii  kleopatra  4:4.2.2-1 KDE Certificate Manager
ii  pinentry-gtk2 [pinentry-x1 0.7.5-3   GTK+-2-based PIN or pass-phrase en
ii  pinentry-qt [pinentry-x11] 0.7.5-3   Qt-based PIN or pass-phrase entry 

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---End Message---
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Version: 4:4.2.2-1

  Hello:

  As the original reporter is unable to reproduce the problem and explicitly 
requested closing this bug, I'm closing it.

  Regards,
-- 
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-Proud Debian user-
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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread Gustavo Noronha
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 16:59 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote:
 A final remark; John Hasler (and other people) wrote:
  (I think it should be off by default with an option to turn it on but
  that's just my irrelevant opinion.  I don't use the package.)
 
 I'm just curious to know: if you don't use the package, how can you express 
 an 
 opinion on it? This for sure doesn't help about the current discussion.

We, the maintainers as a collective, are building a distribution, we are
free to have (and express) opinions on whatever we want, if we believe
it may make it better, even if we do not use a specific package
ourselves. You are, of course, just as free to ignore those you don't
deem worthy. Does it make sense?

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Hasler
Pino Toscano writes:
 I'm just curious to know: if you don't use the package, how can you express 
 an 
 opinion on it? 

I commented on the misuse of the term DRM to describe the advisory locking
that is the subject of this discussion.  I added the parenthetical to make
it clear that I was not thereby endorsing the present arrangement.  

BTW Settings-Configure Ocular offers a Obey DRM limitations checkbox.
This will confuse many users as the feature seems to be normally referred
to as securing or locking.  To most people DRM has to do with music
and videos.

 This for sure doesn't help about the current discussion.

I just wanted to clarify the point that this advisory locking is not DRM.
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Processed: kdebase-runtime really does need Oxygen icons

2009-05-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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 severity 530696 wishlist
Bug#530696: kdebase-runtime depends on exactly one icon theme
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Bug#530696: kdebase-runtime really does need Oxygen icons

2009-05-31 Thread Josh Metzler
severity 530696 wishlist
tags 530696 + wontfix
thanks

The main reason the Oxygen icon set is so much bigger than many others is that 
it is the only one containing a complete set of icons.  It is used as a backup 
in case the selected icon set is missing an icon.  If you were to install one 
of the smaller icon sets and remove kde-icons-oxygen, you would likely have 
many missing icons.

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Processed: upstream bug

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 tags 525673 + upstream
Bug#525673: keditbookmarks: segfault when moving bookmark
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Tags added: upstream

 forwarded 525673 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160679
Bug#525673: keditbookmarks: segfault when moving bookmark
Noted your statement that Bug has been forwarded to 
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160679.

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Bug#525673: upstream bug

2009-05-31 Thread Josh Metzler
tags 525673 + upstream
forwarded 525673 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160679
thanks

This bug is confirmed upstream by numerous users.  Unfortunately it does not 
seem to be fixed yet.

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Bug#501822: marked as done (KDE/KIO/FIXED: Dolphin crashes when back from crompressed files)

2009-05-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

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Package: dolphin
Version: 4:4.1.2-1
Severity: grave
Justification: causes non-serious data loss

I always use compressed files. I activate the Dolphin support to navigate on
compressed files. When I open the file and press Back button (Dolphin) the
application crashes.

To see this error:
1) Activate Navigate in compressed files option
2) create a zip or tar.gz file (maybe other compressed files) in any folder
3) Open the file in Dolphin
4) Press Back button, Dolphin will crash.

See backtrace:
-
Aplicativo: Dolphin (dolphin), sinal SIGABRT
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb5e2c8d0 (LWP 9423)]
[KCrash handler]
#6  0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#7  0xb66a1640 in raise () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
#8  0xb66a3018 in abort () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
#9  0xb690d6cd in qt_message_output (msgType=QtFatalMsg, 
buf=0xbfcc9b60 ASSERT: \isDir(node)\ in file
#/tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kio/kio/kdirmodel.cpp, line 193) at
#/global/qglobal.cpp:2102
#10 0xb690d796 in qFatal (msg=0xb6a55438 ASSERT: \%s\ in file %s, line
#%d)
at global/qglobal.cpp:2303
#11 0xb690d825 in qt_assert (assertion=0xb7daeced isDir(node), 
file=0xb7daea08 /tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kio/kio/kdirmodel.cpp, 
line=193) at global/qglobal.cpp:1872
#12 0xb7c554c7 in KDirModelPrivate::nodeForUrl (this=0x83b3b30, 
_u...@0x83b4ed8, returnLastParent=false)
at /tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kio/kio/kdirmodel.cpp:193
#13 0xb7c58eb7 in KDirModel::indexForUrl (this=0x81b5fa8, u...@0x83b4ed8)
at /tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kio/kio/kdirmodel.cpp:701
#14 0xb7eba7cc in DolphinView::restoreCurrentItem (this=0x83b4e80)
at /tmp/buildd/kdebase-4.1.2/apps/dolphin/src/dolphinview.cpp:968
#15 0xb7ebe556 in DolphinView::qt_metacall (this=0x83b4e80, 
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=49, _a=0xbfccbd78)
at

/tmp/buildd/kdebase-4.1.2/obj-i486-linux-gnu/apps/dolphin/src/dolphinview.moc:203
#16 0xb6a19bd0 in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x8197a88, 
from_signal_index=5, to_signal_index=5, argv=0x0)
at kernel/qobject.cpp:3031
#17 0xb6a1a952 in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x8197a88, m=0x80a86f0, 
local_signal_index=1, argv=0x0) at kernel/qobject.cpp:3101
#18 0xb7c3e1d7 in KDirLister::completed (this=0x8197a88)
at /tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/obj-i486-linux-gnu/kio/kdirlister.moc:202
#19 0xb7c48192 in KDirListerCache::emitItemsFromCache (this=0x817ca10, 
lister=0x8197a88, ite...@0x86572d8, rootit...@0x86572dc,
#_u...@0x86572d0, 
_reload=false, _emitCompleted=true)
at /tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kio/kio/kdirlister.cpp:291
#20 0xb7c4833a in KDirLister::Private::CachedItemsJob::done (this=0x86572c0)
at /tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kio/kio/kdirlister.cpp:255
#21 0xb7c48485 in KDirLister::Private::CachedItemsJob::qt_metacall (
this=0x86572c0, _c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=0, _a=0x8654cf8)
at
/tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/obj-i486-linux-gnu/kio/kdirlister_p.moc:154
#22 0xb6a12d6b in QMetaCallEvent::placeMetaCall (this=0x86550a0, 
object=0x86572c0) at kernel/qobject.cpp:529
#23 0xb6a148e1 in QObject::event (this=0x86572c0, e=0x86550a0)
at kernel/qobject.cpp:1155
#24 0xb6d7079c in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper (this=0x80b97a0, 
receiver=0x86572c0, e=0x86550a0) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:3803
#25 0xb6d7861e in QApplication::notify (this=0xbfccc574, receiver=0x86572c0, 
e=0x86550a0) at kernel/qapplication.cpp:3393
#26 0xb7959c6d in KApplication::notify (this=0xbfccc574, receiver=0x86572c0, 
event=0x86550a0)
at /tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kdeui/kernel/kapplication.cpp:311
#27 0xb6a050d1 in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal (this=0xbfccc574, 
receiver=0x86572c0, event=0x86550a0) at kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp:587
#28 0xb6a05d55 in QCoreApplicationPrivate::sendPostedEvents (receiver=0x0, 
event_type=0, data=0x80aa288)
at ../../include/QtCore/../../src/corelib/kernel/qcoreapplication.h:209
#29 0xb6a05f4d in QCoreApplication::sendPostedEvents 

Bug#501989: marked as done (KDE/Konsole/FIXED-UPSTREAM: Pasting large texts deadlocks Konsole)

2009-05-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

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Package: konsole
Version: 4:4.1.2-1
Severity: important

When I try copy a backtrace from KDE but window and past (Ctrl + Shift + V)
on Konsole, the console freezes. I'm using xterm to do this work because I
lost my report on Konsole.


Konsole does not crash. It's freezed. Here is one ot the reports I've tryed
put on Konsole with joe editor opened to report a bug to debian.org. This is
a Gwenview backtrace:



Aplicativo: Gwenview (gwenview), sinal SIGABRT
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb5e8a6c0 (LWP 4272)]
[KCrash handler]
#6  0xb7f97424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#7  0xb68e4640 in raise () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
#8  0xb68e6018 in abort () from /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
#9  0xb6b506cd in qt_message_output (msgType=QtFatalMsg, 
buf=0xbf9ad570 ASSERT: \!isEmpty()\ in file
#/usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qlist.h, line 252) at global/qglobal.cpp:2102
#10 0xb6b50796 in qFatal (msg=0xb6c98438 ASSERT: \%s\ in file %s, line
#%d)
at global/qglobal.cpp:2303
#11 0xb6b50825 in qt_assert (assertion=0xb769cdd7 !isEmpty(), 
file=0xb769c7d4 /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qlist.h, line=252)
at global/qglobal.cpp:1872
#12 0xb7657018 in KDirOperator::Private::_k_slotSelectionChanged (
this=0x9019440) at /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qlist.h:252
#13 0xb765eb9f in KDirOperator::qt_metacall (this=0x900afe8, 
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=56, _a=0xbf9af6d8)
at
/tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/obj-i486-linux-gnu/kfile/kdiroperator.moc:226
#14 0xb6c5cbd0 in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x915b120, 
from_signal_index=4, to_signal_index=4, argv=0xbf9af6d8)
at kernel/qobject.cpp:3031
#15 0xb6c5d952 in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x915b120, m=0xb761bff0, 
local_signal_index=0, argv=0xbf9af6d8) at kernel/qobject.cpp:3101
#16 0xb737dbe9 in QItemSelectionModel::selectionChanged (this=0x915b120, 
_...@0xbf9af764, _...@0xbf9af768)
at .moc/release-shared/moc_qitemselectionmodel.cpp:144
#17 0xb7385770 in QItemSelectionModel::emitSelectionChanged (this=0x915b120, 
newselecti...@0xbf9af7b4, oldselecti...@0xbf9af7c4)
at itemviews/qitemselectionmodel.cpp:1454
#18 0xb7385a76 in QItemSelectionModel::select (this=0x915b120, 
selecti...@0xbf9af808, command={i = -1080363004})
at itemviews/qitemselectionmodel.cpp:1013
#19 0xb7380820 in QItemSelectionModel::select (this=0x915b120, 
ind...@0x922c548, command={i = -1080362952})
at itemviews/qitemselectionmodel.cpp:901
#20 0xb7664007 in KDirOperatorDetailView::currentChanged (this=0x90a6d10, 
curre...@0x922c548, previo...@0x91781d0)
at /tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/kfile/kdiroperatordetailview.cpp:136
#21 0xb73319fc in QAbstractItemView::qt_metacall (this=0x90a6d10, 
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=20, _a=0xbf9af9b8)
at .moc/release-shared/moc_qabstractitemview.cpp:227
#22 0xb7374e2a in QTreeView::qt_metacall (this=0x90a6d10, 
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=51, _a=0xbf9af9b8)
at .moc/release-shared/moc_qtreeview.cpp:121
#23 0xb765418a in KDirOperatorDetailView::qt_metacall (this=0x90a6d10, 
_c=QMetaObject::InvokeMetaMethod, _id=51, _a=0xbf9af9b8)
at

/tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.2/obj-i486-linux-gnu/kfile/moc_kdiroperatordetailview_p.cpp:62
#24 0xb6c5cbd0 in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x915b120, 
from_signal_index=5, to_signal_index=5, argv=0xbf9af9b8)
at kernel/qobject.cpp:3031
#25 0xb6c5d952 in QMetaObject::activate (sender=0x915b120, m=0xb761bff0, 
local_signal_index=1, argv=0xbf9af9b8) at kernel/qobject.cpp:3101
#26 0xb737db99 in QItemSelectionModel::currentChanged (this=0x915b120, 
_...@0x922c548, _...@0x91781d0)
at .moc/release-shared/moc_qitemselectionmodel.cpp:151
#27 0xb737dd3d in QItemSelectionModel::setCurrentIndex (this=0x915b120, 
ind...@0x922c548, command={i = -1080362272})
at itemviews/qitemselectionmodel.cpp:1082
#28 0xb732fb8a in QAbstractItemView::mousePressEvent (this=0x90a6d10, 
event=0xbf9b04ac) at itemviews/qabstractitemview.cpp:1470
#29 0xb7373527 in QTreeView::mousePressEvent 

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Bug#493684: tag upstream + forwarded

2009-05-31 Thread Martin Alfke
tag 493684 upstream
forwarded 493684 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163578


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Processed: Re: Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
John Hasler wrote:
 Pino Toscano writes:
 I'm just curious to know: if you don't use the package, how can you express 
 an 
 opinion on it? 
 
 I commented on the misuse of the term DRM to describe the advisory locking
 that is the subject of this discussion.  I added the parenthetical to make
 it clear that I was not thereby endorsing the present arrangement.  
 
 BTW Settings-Configure Ocular offers a Obey DRM limitations checkbox.
 This will confuse many users as the feature seems to be normally referred
 to as securing or locking.  To most people DRM has to do with music
 and videos.
 
 This for sure doesn't help about the current discussion.
 
 I just wanted to clarify the point that this advisory locking is not DRM.

You are quite correct on all of it.  I didn't even think to look in that
box to start with, because KDE's text referred to DRM, and where do you
ever find a DRM disable box?





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Bug#531221: okular: Arbitrarily enforces DRM

2009-05-31 Thread John Goerzen
tags 531221 patch
thanks

Sune Vuorela wrote:
 2) Patch the default to have it disabled
 
 It's a deviation from upstream that we would have to maintain for eternity.
 This issue is not important enough for me to put the extra required work into 
 it

Here's the patch:

jgoer...@katherina:/tmp/kdegraphics-4.2.2/okular/conf$ diff -d -u
okular.kcfg.orig okular.kcfg
--- okular.kcfg.orig2009-05-31 13:27:25.310927480 -0500
+++ okular.kcfg 2009-05-31 13:27:32.258926063 -0500
@@ -148,7 +148,7 @@
  /group
  group name=General 
   entry key=ObeyDRM type=Bool 
-   defaulttrue/default
+   defaultfalse/default
   /entry
   entry key=ChooseGenerators type=Bool 
defaultfalse/default

I don't want to be a thorn in anybody's side here, but are you seriously
telling me that this 1-word patch is too much to maintain?  It's in a
default config file, not even in a .cpp or .h source file.

 3) Patch the prompt to have an allow/deny option
 
 It's a deviation from upstream that we would have to maintain for eternity.
 This issue is not important enough for me to put the extra required work into 
 it.
 Getting the prompt options translated and patch all translation packages is 
 also not something to be easy done, please get out of your anglocentered 
 world.

I'm sure that there are i18n templates elsewhere in KDE with similar
language that could be copied.  It is rather fallacious of you to assume
I'm making an anglo-centric remark by suggesting a dialog be improved.
Right now it sucks for everyone.  It could be made better for everyone.

 When accepting patches that upstream won't carry the maintainers have to 
 maintain it forever, thru all new upstream revisions of the software. Some 
 times, it can be done with quilt refresh, some times it needs a much closer 
 look at the code to get to a good enough level of understanding to actually 
 be 
 able to update the patch. 

First off, if upstream ever drops the patch, it is no worse than the
current situation.

Secondly, this is an incredibly trivial patch.  It is changing one word
true to false in a config file.  If only all the patches I had to
maintain were so simple!

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Processed: Re: Bug#531311: [kmail] Crashed while sending (signed) mail - call stack included

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Bug#528937: [kdm]

2009-05-31 Thread Armin Berres
First: Thanks for forwarding :-)

On Sun, 31 May 09 16:24, Eike Sauer wrote:
 Debian points me to upstream KDE,
 and KDE points me to downstream Debian... :o)
 
 Ok, I tried the hint from KDE: 
 Setting LC_ALL in /etc/init.d/kdm works.

Hah, LC_ALL overwrites all other LC_* variables and should therefore
normally not be used. [0]
KDM should definitely not rely on LC_ALL which is normally not set.

So, I hereby send you back upstream. Let us see what Ossi has to say.

Greetings,
Armin

[0] http://opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xbd/envvar.html



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Bug#528937: [kdm]

2009-05-31 Thread Armin Berres
On Sun, 31 May 09 16:24, Eike Sauer wrote:
 But isn't this a Debian bug nevertheless?
 I called dpkg-reconfigure locales, and de_DE.UTF-8 is 
 (and already was) my default locale, so I feel kdm should 
 use it out of the box...

Oh, and could you send the output of locale? Just to make sure
everything looks sane...

/Armin



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Bug#531359: kicker: Unmet dependancies

2009-05-31 Thread Norbert Veber
Package: kicker
Severity: important

apt-get install kde fails with

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kicker: Depends: kdebase-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.2) but 4:4.2.2-1 is to be 
installed.



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Processed: tagging 528937

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Bug#528937: [kdm] Background image with umlauts in file name doesn't display
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Processed: setting package to ksysguard plasma-dataengines-workspace kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 plasma-scriptengine-ruby plasma-scriptengine-javascript libkdecor

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 #kdebase-workspace (4:4.2.4-1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
 #
 #  * New upstream release:
 #- keyboard.desktop renamed to kcm_keyboard.desktop to avoid
 #  conflict with gnome's keyboard.desktop. (Closes: #524506)
 #- plasma don't freezes when unmounting busy devices
 #  (Closes: #530558, #523089)
 #  +++ Changes by Josh Metzler:
 #  * Fix grep for checking if Desktop Themes should be used. (Closes: #530493)
 #  +++ Changes by George Kiagiadakis:
 #  * If readable, source /etc/default/locale in KDM's init script to make it
 #aware of the user's locale. (Closes: #528937)
 #
 package ksysguard plasma-dataengines-workspace kdebase-workspace 
 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 plasma-scriptengine-ruby 
 plasma-scriptengine-javascript libkdecorations4 plasma-scriptengines 
 plasma-scriptengine-qedje kdebase-workspace-data 
 plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets systemsettings klipper 
 plasma-scriptengine-python libkwineffects1 kdebase-workspace-dbg 
 plasma-scriptengine-webkit plasma-widgets-workspace 
 kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins ksysguardd kdebase-workspace-bin 
 kde-window-manager kdm
Ignoring bugs not assigned to: ksysguard plasma-dataengines-workspace 
kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kdebase-workspace-dev 
plasma-scriptengine-ruby plasma-scriptengine-javascript plasma-scriptengines 
libkdecorations4 plasma-scriptengine-qedje kdebase-workspace-data 
plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets systemsettings klipper 
plasma-scriptengine-python libkwineffects1 kdebase-workspace-dbg 
plasma-scriptengine-webkit plasma-widgets-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin 
ksysguardd kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins kdm kde-window-manager

 tags 523089 + pending
Bug#523089: [plasma-widgets-workspace] Device notifier locks when umounting a 
device if the device is busy
Tags were: fixed-upstream
Tags added: pending

 tags 524506 + pending
Bug#524506: systemsettings: keyboard settings module is missing in 4.2.2
Tags were: fixed-upstream
Tags added: pending

 tags 528937 + pending
Bug#528937: [kdm] Background image with umlauts in file name doesn't display
Tags were: upstream
Tags added: pending

 tags 530493 + pending
Bug#530493: kdm: Enforces the use of Desktop Themes even when instructed not to 
do so
Tags were: confirmed
Tags added: pending

 tags 530558 + pending
Bug#530558: plasma: attempting to eject busy removable drive deadlocks plasma, 
hanging taskbar/menu completely
Tags were: fixed-upstream upstream
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Bug#528937: [kdm]

2009-05-31 Thread Armin Berres
On Sun, 31 May 09 16:24, Eike Sauer wrote:
 Package: kdm
 Version: 4:4.2.2-2
 
 --- Please enter the report below this line. ---
 Debian points me to upstream KDE,
 and KDE points me to downstream Debian... :o)

Sory for the confusion, but yes, this is a Debian bug.
I somehow expected the locale to be already set when the init scripts
are running.

Could you please try to add the following to /etc/init.d/kdm:

| if [ -r /etc/default/locale ]; then
|  . /etc/default/locale
|  export LANG LANGUAGE
| fi

This should fix the issue.
Will apply this to SVN in a second.

Greetings,
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Bug#530696: kdebase-runtime really does need Oxygen icons

2009-05-31 Thread Ben Klein
2009/6/1 Josh Metzler josh...@metzlers.org:
 severity 530696 wishlist
 tags 530696 + wontfix
 thanks

 The main reason the Oxygen icon set is so much bigger than many others is that
 it is the only one containing a complete set of icons.  It is used as a backup
 in case the selected icon set is missing an icon.  If you were to install one
 of the smaller icon sets and remove kde-icons-oxygen, you would likely have
 many missing icons.

I still think it's unnecessarily large and a packaging error.
kdebase-runtime should depend on a virtual package that can be
provided by other, complete icon themes when they become available.



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Bug#531359: marked as done (kicker: Unmet dependancies)

2009-05-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

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---BeginMessage---
Package: kicker
Severity: important

apt-get install kde fails with

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kicker: Depends: kdebase-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.2) but 4:4.2.2-1 is to be 
installed.



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On Monday 01 June 2009 00:41:33 Norbert Veber wrote:
 Package: kicker
 Severity: important

 apt-get install kde fails with

 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   kicker: Depends: kdebase-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.2) but 4:4.2.2-1 is to be
 installed.

There is no more kicker in kde.

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Bug#530696: kdebase-runtime really does need Oxygen icons

2009-05-31 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Monday 01 June 2009 00:58:25 Ben Klein wrote:
 2009/6/1 Josh Metzler josh...@metzlers.org:
  severity 530696 wishlist
  tags 530696 + wontfix
  thanks
 
  The main reason the Oxygen icon set is so much bigger than many others is
  that it is the only one containing a complete set of icons.  It is used
  as a backup in case the selected icon set is missing an icon.  If you
  were to install one of the smaller icon sets and remove kde-icons-oxygen,
  you would likely have many missing icons.

 I still think it's unnecessarily large and a packaging error.
 kdebase-runtime should depend on a virtual package that can be
 provided by other, complete icon themes when they become available.

We can easy revisit it the day there is a complete alternate icon  set.

I really think though, that the fallback icon theme should be present always, 
else you might get weird questionmarks in all sorts of applications.

/Sune
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Processed: Re: Processed (with 1 errors): Reassigning to kdebase

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Bug#531359: kicker: Unmet dependancies
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Processed: bugs pending upload

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Bug#513881: konqueror-nsplugins: nspluginviewer crashes when used with 
gtk-qt-engine
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Bug#531359: closed by Sune Vuorela s...@vuorela.dk (Re: Bug#531359: kicker: Unmet dependancies)

2009-05-31 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:30:08PM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
 There is no more kicker in kde.

If thats true, then kdebase shouldnt depend on it.

Thanks,

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Bug#531359: marked as done (kicker: Unmet dependancies)

2009-05-31 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System

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---BeginMessage---
Package: kicker
Severity: important

apt-get install kde fails with

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kicker: Depends: kdebase-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.2) but 4:4.2.2-1 is to be 
installed.



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Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_CA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
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---BeginMessage---
Oh, and closed again.
See http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/kdebase for justification btw.

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Bug#530696: kdebase-runtime really does need Oxygen icons

2009-05-31 Thread Armin Berres
On Mon, 01 Jun 09 01:48, Sune Vuorela wrote:
 On Monday 01 June 2009 00:58:25 Ben Klein wrote:
  2009/6/1 Josh Metzler josh...@metzlers.org:
   severity 530696 wishlist
   tags 530696 + wontfix
   thanks
  
   The main reason the Oxygen icon set is so much bigger than many others is
   that it is the only one containing a complete set of icons.  It is used
   as a backup in case the selected icon set is missing an icon.  If you
   were to install one of the smaller icon sets and remove kde-icons-oxygen,
   you would likely have many missing icons.
 
  I still think it's unnecessarily large and a packaging error.
  kdebase-runtime should depend on a virtual package that can be
  provided by other, complete icon themes when they become available.
 
 We can easy revisit it the day there is a complete alternate icon  set.
 
 I really think though, that the fallback icon theme should be present always, 
 else you might get weird questionmarks in all sorts of applications.

And for what it'ss worth, the icons will not be small, but a lot smaller
one 4.3 is out. The reason is, that the .svgz-files will not be
installed anymore.

ar...@bluefire:~/tmp/oxygen-icons-4.2.85/debian$ du -hs kde-icons-oxygen
33M kde-icons-oxygen

$ aptitude show kde-icons-oxygen | grep Size
Uncompressed Size: 85.7M

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Bug#531359: closed by Sune Vuorela s...@vuorela.dk (Re: Bug#531359: kicker: Unmet dependancies)

2009-05-31 Thread Armin Berres
On Sun, 31 May 09 20:17, Norbert Veber wrote:
 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:30:08PM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
  There is no more kicker in kde.
 
 If thats true, then kdebase shouldnt depend on it.

Are you trying something like aptitude safe-upgrade? If yes
aptitude dist-upgrade is what you want. The kdebase from
testing definitely does not depend anymore on kicker.

Greetings,
Armin



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Bug#531359: closed by Sune Vuorela s...@vuorela.dk (Re: Bug#531359: kicker: Unmet dependancies)

2009-05-31 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 09:24:44PM -0400, Armin Berres wrote:
 On Sun, 31 May 09 20:17, Norbert Veber wrote:
  On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:30:08PM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
   There is no more kicker in kde.
  
  If thats true, then kdebase shouldnt depend on it.
 
 Are you trying something like aptitude safe-upgrade? If yes
 aptitude dist-upgrade is what you want. The kdebase from
 testing definitely does not depend anymore on kicker.

No, I'm tying aptitude install kde in unstable.

ackage: kdebase
Priority: optional
Section: kde
Installed-Size: 68
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Architecture: all
Version: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6
Depends: [many things removed], kicker (= 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6)

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Bug#531359: closed by Sune Vuorela s...@vuorela.dk (Re: Bug#531359: kicker: Unmet dependancies)

2009-05-31 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:53:47PM -0400, Norbert Veber wrote:
 Version: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6

Oops, I was looking at the wrong package, thats what I get for having both
stable and unstable in sources.list.

Anyhow, something IS depending on kicker in unstable because 
aptitude install kde fails, its jsut not kdebase :P

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Bug#531359: closed by Sune Vuorela s...@vuorela.dk (Re: Bug#531359: kicker: Unmet dependancies)

2009-05-31 Thread Armin Berres
On Sun, 31 May 09 22:58, Norbert Veber wrote:
 On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 10:53:47PM -0400, Norbert Veber wrote:
  Version: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6
 
 Oops, I was looking at the wrong package, thats what I get for having both
 stable and unstable in sources.list.
 
 Anyhow, something IS depending on kicker in unstable because 
 aptitude install kde fails, its jsut not kdebase :P

This will install kde from stable. The meta-package called kde is
gone. These days you have e.g. kde-minimal and kde-full.

Greetings,
Armin



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