Re: KDE 4.5 in Debian 6.0 Squeeze?
Hello, On penktadienis 13 Rugpjūtis 2010 22:37:31 Piotr Dąbrowski wrote: Debian testing is now frozen with KDE SC 4.4.5. Most sources I have found confirm that KDE 4.5 won't get into Squeeze, but some say that this may change in the future. What is the official version? Are there any chances to see version 4.5 in stable? No chance. There is more information in the recent threads on the debian-kde mailing list. IMHO KDE 4.5 fixes many annoying bugs including common Plasma crashes sce. I think it's much better candidate for the stable release of Debian. All new releases fix bugs and they all introduce new (annoying) ones. But the main reason is that rules are rules: freeze is in effect and there is no workaround for the limits it imposes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008141135.26371.modes...@vainius.eu
Re: Re: KDE 4.5 in Debian 6.0 Squeeze?
All new releases fix bugs and they all introduce new (annoying) ones. I haven't exerienced any annoying bugs in 4.5 so far. And there are plenty of them in 4.4.5 - mainly plasma crashes f.e. when you dragdrop a quick lunch icon on itself instead of clicking it (very common situation). But the main reason is that rules are rules: freeze is in effect and there is no workaround for the limits it imposes. Probably the freeze date was a wrong choice then. KDE 4.5 release schedule was well known after all. Does Debian not care about KDE users anymore? I just think that KDE 4.4.5 is not stable enough to be in stable branch of Debian. Version 4.5 is just a fix for this situation. And many other users agree with that.
Re: KDE 4.5 in Debian 6.0 Squeeze?
[Piotr Dąbrowski - Samstag 14 August 2010 13:36:37] All new releases fix bugs and they all introduce new (annoying) ones. I haven't exerienced any annoying bugs in 4.5 so far. And there are plenty of them in 4.4.5 - mainly plasma crashes f.e. when you dragdrop a quick lunch icon on itself instead of clicking it (very common situation). One person experience Bug A, another person bug B and the other way around, it works fine. But the main reason is that rules are rules: freeze is in effect and there is no workaround for the limits it imposes. Probably the freeze date was a wrong choice then. KDE 4.5 release schedule was well known after all. Does Debian not care about KDE users anymore? Well, what about GNOME users, MySQL users, Apache users, Subversion users, Midnight COmmander users, ... There is always some release that would be nice to have in the near future. Waiting for those leads to no freeze at all. I think 4.4.5 is a better choice than 4.5.0. In 4.5.0 you have the kdepim issue with some release around KDE 4.5.2 or so. I just think that KDE 4.4.5 is not stable enough to be in stable branch of Debian. Version 4.5 is just a fix for this situation. And many other users agree with that. 4.5 is not just a fix. It's a new release with new issues. And here 4.4.x runs smoothly since 4.4.2 or 4.4.3. So, there might be many that have crashing issues, but there also are many without major problems in 4.4.5. Regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008141914.16086.schwarz...@gmail.com
Re: KDE 4.5 in Debian 6.0 Squeeze?
Hello, On šeštadienis 14 Rugpjūtis 2010 14:36:37 Piotr Dąbrowski wrote: I haven't exerienced any annoying bugs in 4.5 so far. And there are plenty of them in 4.4.5 - mainly plasma crashes f.e. when you dragdrop a quick lunch icon on itself instead of clicking it (very common situation). If we were given an isolated patch, we could include it in the packages. But the main reason is that rules are rules: freeze is in effect and there is no workaround for the limits it imposes. Probably the freeze date was a wrong choice then. The freeze date was not a choice of Debian Qt/KDE team. It had to happen some day and it happened. KDE 4.5 release schedule was well known after all. Does Debian not care about KDE users anymore? Just Debian is too big to care *only* about KDE users. To be honest, if you use Debian on the desktop system, you'll probably end up using testing/unstable anyway. Even if the latest 4.5.x was released with stable, it would get old in a single month. Stable is perfect when you do NOT want software to change. That's servers, workstations and other deployments where the latest KDE is not important at all. I just think that KDE 4.4.5 is not stable enough to be in stable branch of Debian. Version 4.5 is just a fix for this situation. And many other users agree with that. 4.4.5 crashes occasionally when I push it too hard, I still encounter some bugs. But really, that's nothing major or release-critical. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qt-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008142211.06473.modes...@vainius.eu
