Re: Current and upcoming toolchain changes for jessie

2013-06-14 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 13.06.2013 21:47, schrieb Thorsten Glaser:
 Matthias Klose dixit:
 
 The Java and D frontends now default to 4.8 on all architectures, the Go
 frontend stays at 4.7 until 4.8 get the complete Go 1.1 support.
 
 I’d like to have gcj at 4.6 in gcc-defaults for m68k please,
 until the 4.8 one stops FTBFSing.

please send a patch.

 From me nothing against switching C/C++ to 4.8 for m68k at
 this point, but I’d like to hear at least Wouter’s opinion
 on that, and possibly Mikael since he’s not just doing work
 upstream on gcc but also using it (for ColdFire) heavily.

same as well, please send a patch.

 For Ada, I’d like to see a successful build of gnat-4.8
 (from src:gcc-4.8, if I understand the recent changes right)
 first; gnat-4.6 mostly works at the moment, but I’m not sure
 about the upstream situation wrt. patches from Mikael.

try it and send a patch please.

thanks for your cooperation, Matthias


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Re: Current and upcoming toolchain changes for jessie

2013-06-14 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 13.06.2013 16:46, schrieb Steven Chamberlain:
 Hi,
 
 On 13/06/13 13:51, Matthias Klose wrote:
 GCC 4.8 is now the default on all x86 architectures, and on all ARM
 architectures (the latter confirmed by the Debian ARM porters).  I did not 
 get
 any feedback from other port maintainers, so unless this does change and port
 maintainers get involved with toolchain maintenance, the architectures 
 staying
 at 4.6 or 4.7 shouldn't be considered for a successful release 
 (re-)qualification.
 
 I trust these are the architectures that are okay so far:
 | gcc48_archs = amd64 armel armhf arm64 i386 x32 kfreebsd-amd64
 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386

no, they are probably not ok, and there surely are yet undiscovered regressions,
but at least the ARM porters did agree to address these. Same seems to be true
for the kfreebsd and hurd porters. They did change GCC defaults usually at the
same time as this was done for the x86 linux archs.

 So the following would be the architectures for which some response is
 requested urgently from port maintainers, to confirm they are ready for
 GCC 4.8 as default:
 
 Release arches: ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 s390x sparc
 
 All the above have built gcc-4.8.1-2 or higher.

and nobody committing to scan the bts for architecture specific issues, nobody
to prepare test cases, nobody to forward these.

 Other ports:  alpha hppa* m68k powerpcspe ppc64 sh4* sparc64*
 
 * these ports don't appear to have successfully built GCC 4.8 yet.

afaics, alpha, powerpcspe and ppc64 did build.  Note that you cannot trust the
hppa status, this port is still denied access to ports.debian.org and is kept in
another place.

So yes, some of these ports are in better shape than the ports released with 
wheezy.

  Matthias


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Re: Current and upcoming toolchain changes for jessie

2013-06-14 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Matthias Klose dixit:

 I’d like to have gcj at 4.6 in gcc-defaults for m68k please,
 until the 4.8 one stops FTBFSing.

please send a patch.

For gcc-defaults? I think that one is trivial…

For gcj? I did not take Compiler Design in what two semesters
of Uni I managed until I ran out of money. I will, however,
forward #711558 to upstream.

I can’t do everything, but I don’t think anyone can accuse me
of not trying either…

 From me nothing against switching C/C++ to 4.8 for m68k at
 this point, but I’d like to hear at least Wouter’s opinion
 on that, and possibly Mikael since he’s not just doing work
 upstream on gcc but also using it (for ColdFire) heavily.

same as well, please send a patch.

Wouter, Mikael: input on switching C/C++ to 4.8?

[ Ada ]
try it and send a patch please.

Would be useful to get it compiled first, for which #711558
is currently the blocker AFAICT. But I guess I’ll try eventually.

Note to myself: do not “temporarily help out” in any more Debian
projects, you’ll never leave them…

bye,
//mirabilos, sponsoring for a week of Linuxhotel would be nice…
(I’m seriously short of hacking time, in general, recently,
and could use some switching of paper hangings for a while)
-- 
Support mksh as /bin/sh and RoQA dash NOW!
‣ src:bash (259 (278) bugs: 0 RC, 182 (196) IN, 77 (82) MW, 0 (0) FP)
‣ src:dash (86 (102) bugs: 3 RC, 41 (46) IN, 42 (53) MW, 0 FP)
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Re: Current and upcoming toolchain changes for jessie

2013-06-14 Thread Stephan Schreiber
GCC-4.8 should become the default on ia64 soon; some other changes are  
desirable:

- The transition of gcc-4.8/libgcc1 to libunwind8.
- A removal of the libunwind7 dependency of around 4600 packages on  
ia64 - when they are updated next time after the transition. The  
libc6.1 should (likely) depend on libunwind8 after that in order to  
guarantee that libunwind8 is installed.


Stephan



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