Re: debian-ports.org getting relatively unstable (hppa)
On 12/15/2013 06:32 AM, Dave Land wrote: Not sure what's up at debian-ports.org, but I've been trying to debootstrap 2 different HPPA machines for the last couple days and have been getting a variety of errors (size mismatches, files not found when they were there 20 minutes before, etc. etc.) Somebody may want to look into this before it gets out of hand. Thanks! :) I maybe should add some more background here, and maybe someone here on the list might have an idea on how to proceed. Background is, that Dave and myself have binmnu-uploaded the necessary packages for hppa so that debootstrap worked. Then we proceeded with the necessary packages for sbuild and schroot, so that I now have a buildd installed which should be able to start building packages. I haven't turned it on yet though for the reasons which I explain in a few seconds... In the meantime we have of course uploaded a few more packages which now currently break debootstrap. This is fixable manually, but I instead of uploading packages manually now, I would prefer to get the buildd going instead... So, Dave Land, please wait a little bit... Now to the reasons why I didn't turned on the buildd yet: We noticed, that when we manually binmnu-upload packages, which are already in the *same version* on debian-ports, then debian-ports ACCEPT those packages, but if we then try to apt-get-update those later on, this leads to a size mismatch error. I do have the feeling, that this is a problem on debian-ports. I noticed for example that reprepro usually doesn't accept packages of the same version which doesn't seem to be the case on debian-ports. So, I'm anxious, that if I start the buildd, it will happily build and upload packages which we already uploaded to debian-ports. If this happens we will get more size-mismatch errors. A trivial example: On machine buildd.debian-ports.org I run: deller@leda:~$ wb info hello . hppa * hello/hppa | hello: | Package : hello | Version : 2.8-4 | State : Needs-Build | Section : devel | Priority: source | Previous-State : | State-Change: 2013-02-18 00:03:36.782007 | CalculatedPri : 52 | component : main | Distribution: sid | Notes : out-of-date | State-Days : 300 | State-Time : 25958430 So, the package hello would need a rebuild according to the wanna-build database, and that would wb probably tell my buildd who then would start building/uploading it. But on http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-hppa/main/h/hello/ you can see, that the hello-package is already uploaded at version 2.8-4 So, if my buildd now uploads the newly created hello package, I'm sure we will run again into the size-mismatch problem. Now, Aurelien mentioned last week to me, that this size-mismatch error might be because of the apt-ftparchive cache might have been corrupted for hppa. I'm not 100% sure about that. My question here on the list would be, if you (other arch-porters) do have an idea on how I should proceed. Best solution would probably be, if the wanna-build database rescans what's in the archive already. Is this possible? Or, should I just start the buildd and see what's happening? If we then get the size-mismatch errors there is lot of manual work to fix it (unless resetting the apt-ftparchive on debian-ports would solve this). Any other ideas? Helge -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52ad8a73.6040...@gmx.de
Re: debian-ports.org getting relatively unstable (hppa)
On 12/15/13 3:54 AM, Helge Deller wrote: On 12/15/2013 06:32 AM, Dave Land wrote: Not sure what's up at debian-ports.org, but I've been trying to debootstrap 2 different HPPA machines for the last couple days and have been getting a variety of errors (size mismatches, files not found when they were there 20 minutes before, etc. etc.) Somebody may want to look into this before it gets out of hand. Thanks! :) I maybe should add some more background here, and maybe someone here on the list might have an idea on how to proceed. Background is, that Dave and myself have binmnu-uploaded the necessary packages for hppa so that debootstrap worked. Then we proceeded with the necessary packages for sbuild and schroot, so that I now have a buildd installed which should be able to start building packages. I haven't turned it on yet though for the reasons which I explain in a few seconds... In the meantime we have of course uploaded a few more packages which now currently break debootstrap. This is fixable manually, but I instead of uploading packages manually now, I would prefer to get the buildd going instead... So, Dave Land, please wait a little bit... Now to the reasons why I didn't turned on the buildd yet: We noticed, that when we manually binmnu-upload packages, which are already in the *same version* on debian-ports, then debian-ports ACCEPT those packages, but if we then try to apt-get-update those later on, this leads to a size mismatch error. I do have the feeling, that this is a problem on debian-ports. I noticed for example that reprepro usually doesn't accept packages of the same version which doesn't seem to be the case on debian-ports. So, I'm anxious, that if I start the buildd, it will happily build and upload packages which we already uploaded to debian-ports. If this happens we will get more size-mismatch errors. A trivial example: On machine buildd.debian-ports.org I run: deller@leda:~$ wb info hello . hppa * hello/hppa | hello: | Package : hello | Version : 2.8-4 | State : Needs-Build | Section : devel | Priority: source | Previous-State : | State-Change: 2013-02-18 00:03:36.782007 | CalculatedPri : 52 | component : main | Distribution: sid | Notes : out-of-date | State-Days : 300 | State-Time : 25958430 So, the package hello would need a rebuild according to the wanna-build database, and that would wb probably tell my buildd who then would start building/uploading it. But on http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-hppa/main/h/hello/ you can see, that the hello-package is already uploaded at version 2.8-4 So, if my buildd now uploads the newly created hello package, I'm sure we will run again into the size-mismatch problem. Now, Aurelien mentioned last week to me, that this size-mismatch error might be because of the apt-ftparchive cache might have been corrupted for hppa. I'm not 100% sure about that. My question here on the list would be, if you (other arch-porters) do have an idea on how I should proceed. Best solution would probably be, if the wanna-build database rescans what's in the archive already. Is this possible? Or, should I just start the buildd and see what's happening? If we then get the size-mismatch errors there is lot of manual work to fix it (unless resetting the apt-ftparchive on debian-ports would solve this). Any other ideas? Helge Thanks Helge, I'll just put the A500 on standby for a while until things stabilize a bit. I saw Thorsten Glaser's comments over in the debian-ports list, and although it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, since I don't fully understand how packages get processed at the repository when the buildd server uploads (or somebody manually uploads). It seems odd that debian-ports would accept a package with the same name/version number... unless it's looking at the md5 signature instead of the filename?? Is that even possible? I would think those would be unique for each file uploaded. Might be a solution to rework things where the server would look at the filename *and* the md5 sig to determine if the filename would need to be auto-incremented to the next iteration/update (e.g. hello-2.1.1-1 to hello-2.1.1-2) Just a thought... I'll check back later. :) Dave L. -- -- Dave Land Land Computer Service xmecha...@landcomp.net ICQ: 676030523 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52adda03.6030...@landcomp.net
Re: debian-ports.org getting relatively unstable (hppa)
Hi, On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Helge Deller wrote: On 12/15/2013 06:32 AM, Dave Land wrote: Not sure what's up at debian-ports.org, but I've been trying to debootstrap 2 different HPPA machines for the last couple days and have been getting a variety of errors (size mismatches, files not found when they were there 20 minutes before, etc. etc.) Somebody may want to look into this before it gets out of hand. Thanks! :) I maybe should add some more background here, and maybe someone here on the list might have an idea on how to proceed. Background is, that Dave and myself have binmnu-uploaded the necessary packages for hppa so that debootstrap worked. Then we proceeded with the necessary packages for sbuild and schroot, so that I now have a buildd installed which should be able to start building packages. I haven't turned it on yet though for the reasons which I explain in a few seconds... In the meantime we have of course uploaded a few more packages which now currently break debootstrap. This is fixable manually, but I instead of uploading packages manually now, I would prefer to get the buildd going instead... So, Dave Land, please wait a little bit... Now to the reasons why I didn't turned on the buildd yet: We noticed, that when we manually binmnu-upload packages, which are already in the *same version* on debian-ports, then debian-ports ACCEPT those packages, but if we then try to apt-get-update those later on, this leads to a size mismatch error. I do have the feeling, that this is a problem on debian-ports. I noticed for example that reprepro usually doesn't accept packages of the same version which doesn't seem to be the case on debian-ports. This is indeed the case, apt-fptarchive keep the checksums corresponding to first package. That said it hasn't really caused any problem so far. So, I'm anxious, that if I start the buildd, it will happily build and upload packages which we already uploaded to debian-ports. If this happens we will get more size-mismatch errors. Well if you leave the build daemons handling the uploads, they will not build and upload the same package again, and the problem won't happen. A trivial example: On machine buildd.debian-ports.org I run: deller@leda:~$ wb info hello . hppa * hello/hppa | hello: | Package : hello | Version : 2.8-4 | State : Needs-Build | Section : devel | Priority: source | Previous-State : | State-Change: 2013-02-18 00:03:36.782007 | CalculatedPri : 52 | component : main | Distribution: sid | Notes : out-of-date | State-Days : 300 | State-Time : 25958430 So, the package hello would need a rebuild according to the wanna-build database, and that would wb probably tell my buildd who then would start building/uploading it. But on http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-hppa/main/h/hello/ you can see, that the hello-package is already uploaded at version 2.8-4 So, if my buildd now uploads the newly created hello package, I'm sure we will run again into the size-mismatch problem. The wanna-build database is not up to date on hppa. I have disabled it to save some very precious cpu cycles given there are no buildds on hppa yet. Now, Aurelien mentioned last week to me, that this size-mismatch error might be because of the apt-ftparchive cache might have been corrupted for hppa. I'm not 100% sure about that. Ok I wasn't aware the same package have been uploaded multiple time, so the corruption comes clearly from there. My question here on the list would be, if you (other arch-porters) do have an idea on how I should proceed. I would say stop doing manual upload and start the build daemons. Best solution would probably be, if the wanna-build database rescans what's in the archive already. Is this possible? Yes, I can re-enable the hppa wanna-build database if it is actually useful. Or, should I just start the buildd and see what's happening? If we then get the size-mismatch errors there is lot of manual work to fix it (unless resetting the apt-ftparchive on debian-ports would solve this). We can rebuild the apt-ftparchive database at some point. Aurelien -- Aurelien Jarno GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 aurel...@aurel32.net http://www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131215200337.ga2...@hall.aurel32.net
Re: debian-ports.org getting relatively unstable (hppa)
Hello Aurelien, On 12/15/2013 09:03 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:54:43AM +0100, Helge Deller wrote: On 12/15/2013 06:32 AM, Dave Land wrote: Not sure what's up at debian-ports.org, but I've been trying to debootstrap 2 different HPPA machines for the last couple days and have been getting a variety of errors (size mismatches, files not found when they were there 20 minutes before, etc. etc.) Somebody may want to look into this before it gets out of hand. Thanks! :) I maybe should add some more background here, and maybe someone here on the list might have an idea on how to proceed. Background is, that Dave and myself have binmnu-uploaded the necessary packages for hppa so that debootstrap worked. Then we proceeded with the necessary packages for sbuild and schroot, so that I now have a buildd installed which should be able to start building packages. I haven't turned it on yet though for the reasons which I explain in a few seconds... In the meantime we have of course uploaded a few more packages which now currently break debootstrap. This is fixable manually, but I instead of uploading packages manually now, I would prefer to get the buildd going instead... So, Dave Land, please wait a little bit... Now to the reasons why I didn't turned on the buildd yet: We noticed, that when we manually binmnu-upload packages, which are already in the *same version* on debian-ports, then debian-ports ACCEPT those packages, but if we then try to apt-get-update those later on, this leads to a size mismatch error. I do have the feeling, that this is a problem on debian-ports. I noticed for example that reprepro usually doesn't accept packages of the same version which doesn't seem to be the case on debian-ports. This is indeed the case, apt-fptarchive keep the checksums corresponding to first package. That said it hasn't really caused any problem so far. So, I'm anxious, that if I start the buildd, it will happily build and upload packages which we already uploaded to debian-ports. If this happens we will get more size-mismatch errors. Well if you leave the build daemons handling the uploads, they will not build and upload the same package again, and the problem won't happen. Ok, so we should enable the buildd as soon as possble. A trivial example: On machine buildd.debian-ports.org I run: deller@leda:~$ wb info hello . hppa * hello/hppa | hello: | Package : hello | Version : 2.8-4 | State : Needs-Build | Section : devel | Priority: source | Previous-State : | State-Change: 2013-02-18 00:03:36.782007 | CalculatedPri : 52 | component : main | Distribution: sid | Notes : out-of-date | State-Days : 300 | State-Time : 25958430 So, the package hello would need a rebuild according to the wanna-build database, and that would wb probably tell my buildd who then would start building/uploading it. But on http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/pool-hppa/main/h/hello/ you can see, that the hello-package is already uploaded at version 2.8-4 So, if my buildd now uploads the newly created hello package, I'm sure we will run again into the size-mismatch problem. The wanna-build database is not up to date on hppa. I have disabled it to save some very precious cpu cycles given there are no buildds on hppa yet. Can you the please start it now again? This would help me to see what's missing. Now, Aurelien mentioned last week to me, that this size-mismatch error might be because of the apt-ftparchive cache might have been corrupted for hppa. I'm not 100% sure about that. Ok I wasn't aware the same package have been uploaded multiple time, so the corruption comes clearly from there. My question here on the list would be, if you (other arch-porters) do have an idea on how I should proceed. I would say stop doing manual upload and start the build daemons. Will do. That was even the plan - just upload enough that debootstrap/sbuild/schroot is installable which it is now. Best solution would probably be, if the wanna-build database rescans what's in the archive already. Is this possible? Yes, I can re-enable the hppa wanna-build database if it is actually useful. Yes, please, turn it on now. I will send you the hppa buildd gpg/ssh details (as mentioned in your other mail to me) in a few moments. Or, should I just start the buildd and see what's happening? If we then get the size-mismatch errors there is lot of manual work to fix it (unless resetting the apt-ftparchive on debian-ports would solve this). We can rebuild the apt-ftparchive database at some point. Thanks, Helge -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-s390-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
